What's funny is when people buy thse 64-bit chips and realize they aren't any faster on even the things they _thought_ they would be faster on. Gamers won't be helped much at all - the performance increases due to more registers are no better than you'd expect from any of a number of other changes.
Meaning more registers is no better than more cache, more GHz, more IPC, etc... And it will not boos importance Immensely - it'll be some number less than 10% most of the time.
Seeing as how most desktops come with 512M of memory, and people won't have 3G+ desktops for a long long time, it seems silly to try to pawn off a 64-bit chip on them as if they "need" it.
Their new hardware will be as obsolete as first generation pentiums by the time they need 64-bit processors.
Right. Some crackpot came by my house the other day offering me free Enlightenment and perfect contentedness. I guess I'm an idiot for not shaving my head and giving him all my crap.
And Intel had 64-bits long before AMD. Oh - and it makes Opteron look like my grandma when it comes to the real domain of 64-bit computing - science and engineering.
Oh come on, I though you people had special Troll recognition. I've seen subtler trolls under the bridge leading to my house - they always sneak up on me and mutter stuff about eating my bones.
This is a minimal benefit. The percentage performance increase due to this is no bigger than typical benefits of other processor improvements from one generation to the next.
Meaning - you can get a similar benefit from higher GHz, better branch prediction, more cache, etc... without having to recompile all your shit.
If they make this change they are going to soon go out of the console business.
They simply cannot compete with Sony once you take away the current advantage of "just like PC hardware". The only thing that's kept the X-box floating is that the Xbox is based on hardware that's very well understood. Take away this advantage and they are simply screwed - Sony will eat them alive.
Intel isn't in the benchmark business. They try to make money.
Prescott will be cheaper, they can make more of them, and it will scale to higher speeds (good for marketing). That's what's important, not benchmarks, at least to Intel, and to Intel's stockholders.
That's simply not true. Eclipse is fast precisely because of IBM's GUI. I don't care if you have 1G of memory, Eclipse is very usable and some people only learn after using for a long time that it's written in Java.
NetBeans is dead, Sun needs to deal with it.
[And yes, I've used both, though I admit I haven't touched NetBeans for like a year and a half.]
Note he was commenting on the great unwashed masses of computer users. Everybody knows there is a market for 64-bit systems in scientific/engineering computing and in some database applicatoins.
And besides, there are indeed sound-alikes out there. Go to a grocery store or Target/Wal-Mart. There are several products that basically imitate an existint product, and some even have similar names.
It would be a sad excuse, except that 'booble' and 'google' aint' the same. Google can't trademark all sounds that "start with a consonent, and end with the same consonent and 'le'". The idea of it is riduclous and I hope it gets thrown out as frivolous.
According to recent reports, Microsoft (and even some other corporations) have been reported to be attempting to make money. Their questionable tactics include advertising, self promotion, and paying people to promote or analyze their product.
1. WMP implements as many open standards as any other media player.
2. You don't have a "right" to use music and moves you "own" in any way you want to. This is simply true. Fair use grants you a legal defense in the case where a copyright holder sues you, assuming you've used it, well, fairly.
3. If you don't like DRM, don't buy it.
4. No, and you don't have any "right" to convert a DVD to anything. You own the disc, not the content.
You people don't understand. You don't own the content. You never will.
I'm still confused. A monopoly is defined as the theoretical clueless user being unable to go out and download a new media player?
Wait, wait. I'm really confused. If _no_ media player came with Windows, they would still have to go out and download/configure a media player. So they're actually better off without a player pre-installed? Hmm, that's...special thinking.
And DRM? What? You don't understand. DRM music would come from a third party. You couldn't play it unless your player supported DRM.
The whole DRM bugaboo is getting old. You can do what you want with content you _own_. Encode it without DRM, Microsoft will never prevent that. The whole thing is a bunch of FUD and I'm amazed that people keep repeating it.
People want an operating system that only works on _one_ platform. They want _one_ platform, _one_ OS. Most people don't like computers, they just want something to run their applications on.
Nerds seem to value the OS as some important component of a computer system - and in some cases it is. But to John Q. Public, they use a computer to run their applications. That's what Gates understood, that's what Jobs and Wozniak understood.
Microsoft didn't set anybody back 20 years, that's ridiculous. High end computing continued, eggheads continued making Unix better and better. Linux is a pretty freaking good example of that. You just don't understand the difference between mainstream computing and high end computing. Windowx XP is one of the most technically advanced operating systems ever made, end of story. Nobody got set back for anything.
I'm confused. How is it marketing only when you produce a faster chip?
That's like saying a gold medal winner in the olympics only ran for the monetary value of the gold they receive. It's actually quite freaking stupid.
The chip is faster. There are many ways to get faster chips that generally boil down to high IPC or high clock. Why do you nimwits insist on bleating that if you go the high clock route you're only catering to marketing?
What a load of shit. If you were in charge, we'd be in Soviet America right now.
Anybody that is successful would become a monopoly. Microsoft - monopoly (though there are about a dozen viable alternatives to Microsoft). McDonalds (they do have a monopoly on the BigMac, you know). Intel (though AMD is very good competition and there are other competitors in the market).
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What's funny is when people buy thse 64-bit chips and realize they aren't any faster on even the things they _thought_ they would be faster on. Gamers won't be helped much at all - the performance increases due to more registers are no better than you'd expect from any of a number of other changes.
Meaning more registers is no better than more cache, more GHz, more IPC, etc... And it will not boos importance Immensely - it'll be some number less than 10% most of the time.
Seeing as how most desktops come with 512M of memory, and people won't have 3G+ desktops for a long long time, it seems silly to try to pawn off a 64-bit chip on them as if they "need" it.
Their new hardware will be as obsolete as first generation pentiums by the time they need 64-bit processors.
Right. Some crackpot came by my house the other day offering me free Enlightenment and perfect contentedness. I guess I'm an idiot for not shaving my head and giving him all my crap.
And Intel had 64-bits long before AMD. Oh - and it makes Opteron look like my grandma when it comes to the real domain of 64-bit computing - science and engineering.
Oh come on, I though you people had special Troll recognition. I've seen subtler trolls under the bridge leading to my house - they always sneak up on me and mutter stuff about eating my bones.
This guy is 100% troll and it's 110% obvious.
This is a minimal benefit. The percentage performance increase due to this is no bigger than typical benefits of other processor improvements from one generation to the next.
Meaning - you can get a similar benefit from higher GHz, better branch prediction, more cache, etc... without having to recompile all your shit.
If they make this change they are going to soon go out of the console business.
They simply cannot compete with Sony once you take away the current advantage of "just like PC hardware". The only thing that's kept the X-box floating is that the Xbox is based on hardware that's very well understood. Take away this advantage and they are simply screwed - Sony will eat them alive.
Dumb bastards.
Intel isn't in the benchmark business. They try to make money.
Prescott will be cheaper, they can make more of them, and it will scale to higher speeds (good for marketing). That's what's important, not benchmarks, at least to Intel, and to Intel's stockholders.
Expecting the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse to come riding down at any moment.
Slashdot has basically been rational concerning Microsoft. I expected the typical bandwagon jumping on. The end is truly near.
That's simply not true. Eclipse is fast precisely because of IBM's GUI. I don't care if you have 1G of memory, Eclipse is very usable and some people only learn after using for a long time that it's written in Java.
NetBeans is dead, Sun needs to deal with it.
[And yes, I've used both, though I admit I haven't touched NetBeans for like a year and a half.]
What trap. His comment is a truism, unarguably. Especially since he said "almost certainly".
Note he was commenting on the great unwashed masses of computer users. Everybody knows there is a market for 64-bit systems in scientific/engineering computing and in some database applicatoins.
What does Google sell, exactly, again?
And besides, there are indeed sound-alikes out there. Go to a grocery store or Target/Wal-Mart. There are several products that basically imitate an existint product, and some even have similar names.
It would be a sad excuse, except that 'booble' and 'google' aint' the same. Google can't trademark all sounds that "start with a consonent, and end with the same consonent and 'le'". The idea of it is riduclous and I hope it gets thrown out as frivolous.
"Microsoft business, tries to sell products!".
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According to recent reports, Microsoft (and even some other corporations) have been reported to be attempting to make money. Their questionable tactics include advertising, self promotion, and paying people to promote or analyze their product.
Wow, whoopdy freakin' do.
1. WMP implements as many open standards as any other media player.
2. You don't have a "right" to use music and moves you "own" in any way you want to. This is simply true. Fair use grants you a legal defense in the case where a copyright holder sues you, assuming you've used it, well, fairly.
3. If you don't like DRM, don't buy it.
4. No, and you don't have any "right" to convert a DVD to anything. You own the disc, not the content.
You people don't understand. You don't own the content. You never will.
I'm sorry to confuse you, but there are several (as in free) Linux distributions, thus Linux (in the generic) is *free* as in *free beer*.
I'm still confused. A monopoly is defined as the theoretical clueless user being unable to go out and download a new media player?
Wait, wait. I'm really confused. If _no_ media player came with Windows, they would still have to go out and download/configure a media player. So they're actually better off without a player pre-installed? Hmm, that's...special thinking.
And DRM? What? You don't understand. DRM music would come from a third party. You couldn't play it unless your player supported DRM.
The whole DRM bugaboo is getting old. You can do what you want with content you _own_. Encode it without DRM, Microsoft will never prevent that. The whole thing is a bunch of FUD and I'm amazed that people keep repeating it.
Wait, I'm confused. Is Linux a viable alternative to Windows, or isn't it? Oh, and isn't Linux free?
And what about the Mac? What about Free/OpenBSD? What about the dozens of niche OS's and hardware vendors?
It's absolutely laughable to claim Microsoft has an OS monopoly. Truly, it's beyond laughable, it's insane and ridiculous.
Oh, I see.. You don't get it. OK, let me explain.
People want an operating system that only works on _one_ platform. They want _one_ platform, _one_ OS. Most people don't like computers, they just want something to run their applications on.
Nerds seem to value the OS as some important component of a computer system - and in some cases it is. But to John Q. Public, they use a computer to run their applications. That's what Gates understood, that's what Jobs and Wozniak understood.
Microsoft didn't set anybody back 20 years, that's ridiculous. High end computing continued, eggheads continued making Unix better and better. Linux is a pretty freaking good example of that. You just don't understand the difference between mainstream computing and high end computing. Windowx XP is one of the most technically advanced operating systems ever made, end of story. Nobody got set back for anything.
Shut up. None of this is illegal you ingoramus, they're all civil matters.
In the parlance of our times, quite being a playa hata.
Is everything about Microsoft's DRM? Really, now, is it?
I'm confused. How is it marketing only when you produce a faster chip?
That's like saying a gold medal winner in the olympics only ran for the monetary value of the gold they receive. It's actually quite freaking stupid.
The chip is faster. There are many ways to get faster chips that generally boil down to high IPC or high clock. Why do you nimwits insist on bleating that if you go the high clock route you're only catering to marketing?
It's called the Pentium-M line. They perform very well per clock (based on PIII to some degree) and are low consumption.
What a load of shit. If you were in charge, we'd be in Soviet America right now.
Anybody that is successful would become a monopoly. Microsoft - monopoly (though there are about a dozen viable alternatives to Microsoft). McDonalds (they do have a monopoly on the BigMac, you know). Intel (though AMD is very good competition and there are other competitors in the market).
Just admit you're a fanboy and be done with.
So how long have you been an AMD fanboy/stock holder/employee? This is complete crap. The P4 performs very well in matlab or mathematica.
You're simply full of shit and yes, it's obvious.