Out here in "Reality World", as I like to call it, it _does_ matter. You see - performance is performance, whether it comes via IPC or high clock speed.
Until the Athlon64/Opterons AMD had no answer to the P4. They just couldn't quite keep up. And you people harped on the same thing "Ooh, it's a marketing gimmick!".
You want a marketing gimmick? How about selling a 64-bit CPU to people who have like 512M of memory. There's your gimmick.
First, this is possible and these people have (duh) thought of people slightly changing the hash.
You could go one of several ways. One (as another poster pointed out) is to look at the accoustic properties. Treat the file as analog music, and do some fancy analysis such that even if you change the bits it'll be recognizable (barring complete mangling, but who wants mangled music?). You could also generate multiple hashes and store them on a server and use challenge/response to validate hashes sampled at random points in the file. There are other solutions that will work "well enough". They don't need 100% accuracy.
Next, why are people so adverse to DRM and copyright ownership? If you don't like the music or the prices vote with your wallet. "I only steal because it's crappy anyway and I don't want to pay" is not a valid defense for illegally copying other people's copyrighted property.
It doesn't perform as a 1.2GHz chip because of the cache (mainly) - it's a different architecture. Closer to the PIII core - it has a higher IPC.
Not that a higher IPC is better or worse - performance is what counts. But a chip with a good IPC, low clock speed, and good performance makes sense for a laptop.
Bush: Saddam Hussein must be stopped. You: Hussein wouldn't have any affiliation with Microsoft would it???
Someone: Hitler was one of the most evil men alive. You: Hmm. Hitler wouldn't have any affiliation with Microsoft would it???
So I guess what I'm saying here is that you are truly a nerd, my man. A bit of a kook in that you seem to think MS is out to get you, but nerdly none the less. I salute you.
You don't get it. A 'successful' processor is one that makes the company who builds it money. This is a simple market reality.
Now, you can argue on and on about which has the best technology, performance, etc...
Oh - you're plainly wrong about the Centrino processor. The processor component performs very very well at low wattage. It's based on a high-IPC core. It is the ultimate laptop processor available right now. I've read plenty of reviews. The P4-M rules. Plain and simple. We'll see how AMD's new ones do.
So you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you mean the wireless component of Centrino, which has received mixed reviews at best?
I thought Intel was part of the infamous Wintel Consortium?!
And I thought their evil new replacement for the BIOS (EFI, I think?) was a transparent ploy to destroy Linux?!?!!!
Really, you people have the memory of a mayfly. Next time some "Intel/Microsoft try to destroy Linux and other Free OS's" article comes up, try to focus all 50 of your brain cells and remember this.
e.g. with DRM, I think it's pretty reasonable that I can rip to lossless WMA, then decode back to.WAV and get the same file. I can also reencode to lossy VBR WMA from the lossless WMA file. DRM never enters into it.
I'm not sure what all the whining about MS's supposedly onerous DRM is about. They provide a technology. Providers are free to use it with THEIR PROPERTY as they see fit. If you're the 'provider', ripping from CD or making your own music, don't FREAKING use DRM. See, how hard is that?
If someone else makes music and doesn't want you to copy it to 50 machines, then it's their choice to enable DRM. Don't buy the music.
Who wants to bet that over 90% of the replies blather about "Superior?!"?
Get a grip. WMA has been proven time and again to be one of the best codecs in both overall sound and in efficiency (sound per bitrate). This is a simple fact.
Now, next issue - DRM. It's here to stay and I don't have a problem as long as the restrictions are reasonable. If they're not - it's an easy solution. Don't use the service.
Finally, Ogg Vorbis. OK - we get it, it's a good codec. Big freaking deal. It's _never_ going to storm the market. It's not even that much better than WMA - most people would be extremely sensitive to hear any difference.
Oh - and WMA keeps improving. I'd take a $200 bet that in 2 years the latest WMA codecs will sound as good or better than Ogg Vorbis. And then why would anyone use OV?
You're basically marginalizing yourself if you use anything other than MP3, WMA, or AAC.
Software is not steel. The US has a competitive advantage in producing software - all of the great software isn't all of the sudden going to come from India if we implement some protections on US works. Simple fact is that the most software that the most people need is developed in the US.
I'm fine with competition - but it's us (the US) against them. We should use whatever means necessary to keep the US's economy rolling over the rest of the world's. And that is done by keeping us a consumer nation - not by following some childish concept of free trade idealism that doesn't work in the real world.
Oh boy, another self-proclaimed workforce darwinist. How banal.
Let me try to correct your boring thinking:
In real life, usually a nation looks out for its on interests over those of people in other nations. Now, extrapolate this to jobs - is it good for a nation (in this case, the US) to lose most of its high paying jobs, especially in technology, to other nations?
Of course not. Superior technology in the conumer and military domains is how this country has become great. Now, take into account the fact the the US is a _consumer_ nation. What does this mean, you ask? We can deal with tarrifs, tax penalties, etc... on foreign companies and on local companies that export jobs. We have a large enough consumer base. We don't _need_ them as much as they need us.
The whole "whoever will do it cheapest should win!" lobby is pretty idiotic.
Great more yacking about security. Try to keep your drool from short circuiting your Dvorak keyboards.
1. Word password protection is semi-advisory, and it's not intended for serious content protection, and never has been. 2. How about those crypt passwords in/etc/passwd, eh? How long you you think those'll be secure? In 2 years most Unix sites in the world will be forced to change to something more secure - we'll see who's laughing when that scramble happens.
Oooh, sorry. In the real world, as opposed to your make believe land of fairies, Itanium is anything but slow. Was the last model you looked at the original 800Mhz model?
Newer itaniums _smoke_ anything the Opteron can do in their applicable domains (engineering, scientific, database, etc...).
Strange how it can become "chic" to constantly harp on how supposedly bad a movie was, to the point where it's worked into EVERY SINGLE witty reply.
Kind of like Waterworld. It wasn't such a horrible movie. It's problem was they spent so much money on a movie that just "wasn't such a horrible movie".
Matrix trilogy was fine, and you people know it.
Does it take excellent timing to jump on such a fast moving bandwagon, and is it dangerous?
Ogg is efficient?! Umm, no - it's memory and CPU demanding, that's why no hardware vendors (or very few, anyway) support it.
Second, I've read plenty about it - WMA is the superior format for my use, and for that of most people.
* Sounds better than MP3 at a similar bitrate. You worry about your own sound quality - WMA has been demonstrated to have superior quality at a given bitrate over and over. * Hence, smaller than MP3 * My portable supports it (Ogg? Right...)
In the "minus" category, let's see: * Conspiracy theorists convinced Microsoft (I'm sorry, Micro$oft) will come steal my music. * I'm not nerd chic *.. Uh, that's about it.
Oh, that's right, VERY FEW. It's a crap codec with no purpose - requires too much memory and CPU.
If you want really high quality on a 'fat' machine, use lossless WMA/FLAC/Monkey/whatever.
If you want smallish files with good quality, use MP3/WMA/AAC.
So, umm, what is the point of Ogg again? In the real, multi-dimensional world where there are multiple criteria to "better", WMA is _better_ than Ogg.
Goes back to the old saw about betamax/VHS. VHS was _BETTER_, but people still perpetuate the old myth. For one thing, who the hell wants to change cassettes in thbe middle of a movie like you would have to have done with Betamax. It was also more expensive.
Ogg is shit - ask any hardware vendor what their plans are with Ogg and 9/10 times they'll tell you "None". It's too inefficient and requires too much memory/CPU.
Ogg is very very pointless. It's _great_ if you have lots of hard disk space, memory, and CPU. But in that case, you might as well use a lossless codec.
And it doesn't 'wipe the floor' with anything. In all these comparisons, the difference is usually small. The exception being low-bitrate MP3 sucks compared to newer codecs.
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Out here in "Reality World", as I like to call it, it _does_ matter. You see - performance is performance, whether it comes via IPC or high clock speed.
Until the Athlon64/Opterons AMD had no answer to the P4. They just couldn't quite keep up. And you people harped on the same thing "Ooh, it's a marketing gimmick!".
You want a marketing gimmick? How about selling a 64-bit CPU to people who have like 512M of memory. There's your gimmick.
There's a serious sense of the desparate and pathetic in that letter from McBride.
I don't think it's worth getting a worked up over - it's really kind of sad to see how low he's sunk. Just call him Ahab McDumbass.
First, this is possible and these people have (duh) thought of people slightly changing the hash.
You could go one of several ways. One (as another poster pointed out) is to look at the accoustic properties. Treat the file as analog music, and do some fancy analysis such that even if you change the bits it'll be recognizable (barring complete mangling, but who wants mangled music?). You could also generate multiple hashes and store them on a server and use challenge/response to validate hashes sampled at random points in the file. There are other solutions that will work "well enough". They don't need 100% accuracy.
Next, why are people so adverse to DRM and copyright ownership? If you don't like the music or the prices vote with your wallet. "I only steal because it's crappy anyway and I don't want to pay" is not a valid defense for illegally copying other people's copyrighted property.
Fair use "right" is a misnomer. It's more of an indemnity against a copyright holder suing you.
They are in no way required to facilitate or allow (technically) you to copy something. They just can't sue you if you do (DMCA not withstanding).
It doesn't perform as a 1.2GHz chip because of the cache (mainly) - it's a different architecture. Closer to the PIII core - it has a higher IPC.
Not that a higher IPC is better or worse - performance is what counts. But a chip with a good IPC, low clock speed, and good performance makes sense for a laptop.
Bush: Saddam Hussein must be stopped.
You: Hussein wouldn't have any affiliation with Microsoft would it???
Someone: Hitler was one of the most evil men alive.
You: Hmm. Hitler wouldn't have any affiliation with Microsoft would it???
So I guess what I'm saying here is that you are truly a nerd, my man. A bit of a kook in that you seem to think MS is out to get you, but nerdly none the less. I salute you.
I have a crystal ball, and I predict most replies to this story will wax romantic about how much better film is than digital.
WMA isn't going anywhere. In fact, you may be seeing HD-DVD's with WMA based audio on them.
You don't get it. A 'successful' processor is one that makes the company who builds it money. This is a simple market reality.
Now, you can argue on and on about which has the best technology, performance, etc...
Oh - you're plainly wrong about the Centrino processor. The processor component performs very very well at low wattage. It's based on a high-IPC core. It is the ultimate laptop processor available right now. I've read plenty of reviews. The P4-M rules. Plain and simple. We'll see how AMD's new ones do.
So you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you mean the wireless component of Centrino, which has received mixed reviews at best?
I think you misspelled "Pentium III", "Pentium 4", "Celeron 4", and most most especially "Centrino/Pentium-M".
... Oh, I forgot, AMD doesn't make money.
Or by successful do you mean with nerds who think IPC is somehow a better way to achieve performance than ramping clockspeed?
In the _real_ world, a successful processor is one that makes the company money.
Like the AMD
I thought Intel was part of the infamous Wintel Consortium?!
And I thought their evil new replacement for the BIOS (EFI, I think?) was a transparent ploy to destroy Linux?!?!!!
Really, you people have the memory of a mayfly. Next time some "Intel/Microsoft try to destroy Linux and other Free OS's" article comes up, try to focus all 50 of your brain cells and remember this.
Guh?
.WAV and get the same file. I can also reencode to lossy VBR WMA from the lossless WMA file. DRM never enters into it.
e.g. with DRM, I think it's pretty reasonable that I can rip to lossless WMA, then decode back to
I'm not sure what all the whining about MS's supposedly onerous DRM is about. They provide a technology. Providers are free to use it with THEIR PROPERTY as they see fit. If you're the 'provider', ripping from CD or making your own music, don't FREAKING use DRM. See, how hard is that?
If someone else makes music and doesn't want you to copy it to 50 machines, then it's their choice to enable DRM. Don't buy the music.
Who wants to bet that over 90% of the replies blather about "Superior?!"?
Get a grip. WMA has been proven time and again to be one of the best codecs in both overall sound and in efficiency (sound per bitrate). This is a simple fact.
Now, next issue - DRM. It's here to stay and I don't have a problem as long as the restrictions are reasonable. If they're not - it's an easy solution. Don't use the service.
Finally, Ogg Vorbis. OK - we get it, it's a good codec. Big freaking deal. It's _never_ going to storm the market. It's not even that much better than WMA - most people would be extremely sensitive to hear any difference.
Oh - and WMA keeps improving. I'd take a $200 bet that in 2 years the latest WMA codecs will sound as good or better than Ogg Vorbis. And then why would anyone use OV?
You're basically marginalizing yourself if you use anything other than MP3, WMA, or AAC.
You don't know what you're talking about.
WMA is a great codec - the only people who hate it are childish anti-MS zealots.
Software is not steel. The US has a competitive advantage in producing software - all of the great software isn't all of the sudden going to come from India if we implement some protections on US works. Simple fact is that the most software that the most people need is developed in the US.
I'm fine with competition - but it's us (the US) against them. We should use whatever means necessary to keep the US's economy rolling over the rest of the world's. And that is done by keeping us a consumer nation - not by following some childish concept of free trade idealism that doesn't work in the real world.
Oh boy, another self-proclaimed workforce darwinist. How banal.
Let me try to correct your boring thinking:
In real life, usually a nation looks out for its on interests over those of people in other nations. Now, extrapolate this to jobs - is it good for a nation (in this case, the US) to lose most of its high paying jobs, especially in technology, to other nations?
Of course not. Superior technology in the conumer and military domains is how this country has become great. Now, take into account the fact the the US is a _consumer_ nation. What does this mean, you ask? We can deal with tarrifs, tax penalties, etc... on foreign companies and on local companies that export jobs. We have a large enough consumer base. We don't _need_ them as much as they need us.
The whole "whoever will do it cheapest should win!" lobby is pretty idiotic.
Does _everything_ have to be some pathetic jab at Microsoft? I mean, I can just hear the nerdlinger guffawing over this idiocy now.
Great more yacking about security. Try to keep your drool from short circuiting your Dvorak keyboards.
/etc/passwd, eh? How long you you think those'll be secure? In 2 years most Unix sites in the world will be forced to change to something more secure - we'll see who's laughing when that scramble happens.
1. Word password protection is semi-advisory, and it's not intended for serious content protection, and never has been.
2. How about those crypt passwords in
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Typical shit-for-brains monkey.
Oooh, sorry. In the real world, as opposed to your make believe land of fairies, Itanium is anything but slow. Was the last model you looked at the original 800Mhz model?
Newer itaniums _smoke_ anything the Opteron can do in their applicable domains (engineering, scientific, database, etc...).
Now expensive I won't argue with.
Strange how it can become "chic" to constantly harp on how supposedly bad a movie was, to the point where it's worked into EVERY SINGLE witty reply.
Kind of like Waterworld. It wasn't such a horrible movie. It's problem was they spent so much money on a movie that just "wasn't such a horrible movie".
Matrix trilogy was fine, and you people know it.
Does it take excellent timing to jump on such a fast moving bandwagon, and is it dangerous?
Good one, buddy.
On a similar note, I heard politicians are considering courting the all important homeless vote. Ahahaha.
Ogg is efficient?! Umm, no - it's memory and CPU demanding, that's why no hardware vendors (or very few, anyway) support it.
Second, I've read plenty about it - WMA is the superior format for my use, and for that of most people.
* Sounds better than MP3 at a similar bitrate. You worry about your own sound quality - WMA has been demonstrated to have superior quality at a given bitrate over and over.
* Hence, smaller than MP3
* My portable supports it (Ogg? Right...)
In the "minus" category, let's see:
* Conspiracy theorists convinced Microsoft (I'm sorry, Micro$oft) will come steal my music.
* I'm not nerd chic
*.. Uh, that's about it.
Umm, how many portable players support Ogg?
Oh, that's right, VERY FEW. It's a crap codec with no purpose - requires too much memory and CPU.
If you want really high quality on a 'fat' machine, use lossless WMA/FLAC/Monkey/whatever.
If you want smallish files with good quality, use MP3/WMA/AAC.
So, umm, what is the point of Ogg again? In the real, multi-dimensional world where there are multiple criteria to "better", WMA is _better_ than Ogg.
Goes back to the old saw about betamax/VHS. VHS was _BETTER_, but people still perpetuate the old myth. For one thing, who the hell wants to change cassettes in thbe middle of a movie like you would have to have done with Betamax. It was also more expensive.
Ogg is shit - ask any hardware vendor what their plans are with Ogg and 9/10 times they'll tell you "None". It's too inefficient and requires too much memory/CPU.
Ogg is very very pointless. It's _great_ if you have lots of hard disk space, memory, and CPU. But in that case, you might as well use a lossless codec.
And it doesn't 'wipe the floor' with anything. In all these comparisons, the difference is usually small. The exception being low-bitrate MP3 sucks compared to newer codecs.