I'm just glad to know SOMEONE will survive if this thing ever becomes airborne. LOL! Three Chinese chicks and a guy in Aboriginal Australia will recreate the human race. Boy, is our species in for a ride!
VAX32 Netscape code Java (use, replace, then disable) Stolen security and networking from UNIX Apple's interface
Then there's the subtle criminal stuff like;
Forcing OEMs to be exclusive or charging more (blackmail)
Integrating players and browsers after agreeing with the Feds not to (contempt)
Swearing you could not de-integrate said featured in your court case in the US, then suddenly producing a RUssian and European stripped version within 6 months of losing your case there. (Perjury)
Having your CEO SWEAR that M$ never intended to block out Netscape from the browser market then discovering emails that said you actually did (more perjury)
Claiming you have a "more secure" OS than Linux when a 6 year old has found security holes (poor development, lying, stupidity)
Yep, when I think of ethics and upstanding citizens, Microsoft is the company I want preaching ethics to me! Could there be a larger group of assholes on the planet?
True, it does have VERY small control thrusters, but they could not cancel a tumble or a spin on the way down before it hits heavier atmosphere. For that, you need a couple of 10 foot booms with super-sonic wind blowing over them. This, the shuttlecock. Sorry for the confusion. I should have mentioned the areosols.
SS1 has no control thrusters. When it gets up high and the enging cuts out, there is no way to control the ships attitude....it just drops. The shuttlecocking of the tail orients the ship in a level flight attitude as it begins to hit the atmosphere, and thus avoid spins or entering thicker atmosphere upside down.
I am making an observation. Generally, when the ring of fire gets active, it gets REALLY active, then goes through a cyclical calm spell. The recent observations point to an active spike, and I am making that observation. I have no idea if anyone has recently produced a paper on this, but when I was in college this cycle of activity in the ring was a commonly observed phenomena my professor seemed to think was worth watching. Just passing it on. I didn't advise anyone to go buy "End of the World insurance" or anything.
Wow! You're just a sour little shit aren't you? The activity in the last month including large quakes is the most activity seen since the year of the Kobe quake. There have been 18 x 6.0+ on the ring in less than 28 days, YOU do the math.
Oh, and Mauna Loa hasn't blown since 1984. You're thinking of Kilauea, which has been constantly active since 1983. So no, Mauna Loa isn't "CONSTANTLY active", and it's last eruption almost made it to Hilo. It has recently been raising a new dome and it looks to be erupting soon. If you need help finding articles explaining this just ask. Don't go off half-cocked.
Next time you want to throw a superior attitude, at least know what the fuck you're talking about.
Ring of fire activity is up all around the ring. From Japan to Mexico to California, there is a lot of seismic and volcanic activity still going on. St. Helens is just a symptom of something else. I am betting something big happens in the next 3 months. Either an inactive volcano blows, or there's a big EQ in the ring, but something is going to happen. 6.2 in Mexico, 6.0 in California, 7.2 in Japan, St. Helens burps, small quake activity in Alaska and the cascades is up, and Hawaii is looking at Mauna Loa going very active. All of this within the last month, and all of it unusial. I doubt this burp from St' Helens is going to be the total end result.
Good points all. I understand your concerns, but that is why I simply posted "Pilot here" instead of trying to post a long qualification. I was simply posting the information I received from my ATC pals. I figured people could make their own assumptions from that. Pilots know how to fly and how to negotiate complicated airspace, but we rely on a whole mess of other experts to actually keep that airspace organized. All I have to do is get my King Air and it's passengers down safely.
As for the use of Linux, I switched to Linux 3 years ago, and do all my logs and planning on a laptop set to dual boot Suse and M$2k. I am not a fan of M$, and do not depend on their software for much. Luckily, even if the ground system goes down, the best OS of all (Pilot Brain 1.0) is still in control of the aircraft and getting it down safely (as you know). Although it would be dicey, as long as we have radios and UNICOM frequencies, I have no doubt most of us (except for the guys flying the heavies) could get down without any outside aid. The problem is pretty much solved by knowing your AIM/FAR. There is no M$ in my cockpit when I fly, and for that I am thankful.
I wirk out of Long Beach Airport, and am friends with the AT's at that tower. Just like the programmer community, most people within the aircraft industry talk and cross-pollinate. A lot of pilots know the problems with Air Traffic because we want to know what to expect. Same thing foew for weather service. We get to know the guys there as well, and for the same reasons.
Not really, they go partially blind to transponder codes, so they have a hard time determining who is in a Cessna and who is in a 747. All they have are radar blips and the transponder number, but on the radar screens, they lose the designations that show heavy, vfr, and destinations. It's not the end of the world, but it does make it very difficult to keep traffic at a safe distance in class B airspace. The software was down for almost two hours, so it wasn't just a short moment on the backup information.
Pilot here, and this has been a well known pecadillo of the tracking system for SoCal Approach for a few years. It's an application problem that came into being after an upgrade of the application, not the OS. It's a memory allocation error that retains some of the old tracking on the system, thus, the whole box needs to be rebooted every 45 days or the memory overloads and crashes the OS. Look guys, I'm a Linux user and all, but let's not run around blaming M$ for problems with buggy software apps.
SCO has lost the current case, but is still hoping to recoup it's losses from Monterey and a decade of bad business decisions. All this discovery has produced is a possible fraud charge. IANAL but I don't think there is much of a case there. Even if IBMers did discuss getting Sys 5 code by entering into an agreement over Monterey, the agreement/contract is the scope of it.
IBM and SCO agreed to share and develop. If the agreement said either side could pull out at any time (what appears to be the case) then IBM did not commit fraud. If SCO's lawyers approved a contract that didn't lay out that all Sys5 had to be returned if IBM pulled out early, then that is just another bad business decision by SCO. You never share IP without having rock-solid guarantees that you will control that IP. It sounds like IBM entered into Monterey thinking win-win. We either develop a 64 bit Itanium UNIX with SCO, or we pull out and have an upgrade from Sys3 to Sys5.
Of course, if IBM has emails out there that state they NEVER intended to finish Monterey and that the sole purpose of Monterey was to rip off SCO for Sys5, then a court will have to decide if intent overrides the contract as fraud.
3 Com had decent products last timeand they were dumped from this market segment. I have no idea how they think they are going to compete a second time by dangling a price in front of an IT wonk. Any admins here want to risk their jobs?
Let's award Joe Geek for cutting out costs for network equipment this quarter.
Let's fire Joe Geek the next quarter when we start having problems and 3 Com provides the level of support we got for the savings....zero.
Ever try to explain to a CEO why his email is down and how that's a good thing for the bottom line? LOL!
Bush's campaign is based on fear. "Vote for me because the wimpy democrat will get you killed". Between this, and the very god chance that bin Laden will be "apprehended" just before the debates, I am getting more and more anxious that monkey-face Dubya is going to win.
My sister was molested by a neighbor. When they finally apprehended him, he had a computer FILLED with kiddie porn and an entire bedroom filled with child-porn mags/pics/and video. Hope this never happens to someone you love.
The problem isn't the IP request, it's the packet filtering, and a good ISP SHOULD know where their packets are going. They should also be able to EASILY identify kiddie-porn sites they have assigned to that IP (it's not like it would be more than 1 or 2. This is just a matter of lazy admins, and reluctant ISP's. It's far easier to block the IP in it's entirity than simply kill the site guilty of violating the TOU.
The information to block the correct site is IN the packet. If you have an offender who is identified, you have a packet pointing right at them.
Episode 7 (The Voyage Home): Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) is now old and broke. After 2 decades of training new Jedi, he now sits around on Dagoba all day complaining about humidity. One day he is contacted by his geriatric friend Han Solo (now King of a planet called Indiana). He tells Luke that a new Sith named Darth Glukas has developed a time machine and has sent back a droid called THX1138 to kill young Anakin in a time-period called "EPISODE 1". Solo explains that if THX1138 isn't stopped, Anakin and his servant Jar Jar Binks will be killed, thus making Luke cease to exist. After a long and perilous journey (where they encounter humpback whales for some reason) Luke and Solo defeat THX1138, but learn on their return that that was Darth Glukas' plan from the beginning. Now Glukas can create an army made entirely of something he calls "director's cuts" and steal all the money in the universe. This will allow him to buy the entire republic and restore the empire. Luke and SOlo are bummed out as we begin;
EPISODE 8 (Lost in Space); Luke and Solo must defeat Darth Glukas' army of director's cuts, but they have no idea where they are or even WHAT they are, so they begin searching randomly throughout the worlds of the republic. They come across a planet and discover a family of beautiful humans who claim they are called the Robinsons, and their ship is the "Jupiter 2". Although the ship they have looks nothing like the one in the republic database, and the Robinsons are far too pretty and have the vacuous acting talent of bannana slugs, they do point out that they have seen the dark side. They point our geratric twosome in the direction of Darth Dr. Smith, who is Darth Glukas' apprentice. Smith doesn't look human at all, but he does look a helluva lot better than the crappy paint on Darth Maul (and he does have the cool black robe) so our duo fights with Darth Smith and strike him down for questioning. After Darth Smith stops whining about his injury "Oh the pain, the pain!" He tells them Darth Glukas and the directors cuts can be found on a planet called Skywalker Ranch and that Darth Glukas will surely defeat them and buy the entire republic unless our heroes can get more help. Off they go
EPISODE 9 (Finally over); Luke and Solo go to get help. They stop at the planet of Angles, where they find Princess Leah (in tight vinyl) and her band of female jedi (Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore, and Lucy Liu). Accompanying them is Leah's Obi Wan (jedi teacher), Obi Wan Morpheus and his assistant Neo. All 8 of them fly to planet Skywalker Ranch and confront Darth Glukas, but alas, Glukas has a suprise for them. He has THREE young apprentice siths working for him. Darth Elrond (Hugo Weaving), Darth Psycho (Crispien Glover), and Darth Bitch (Demi Moore). An epic battle ensues where almost everyone dies while fighting in slow motion with lots of wire fighting and physics-ignoring acrobatics. In the end, Luke and Glukas are the only ones left. Luke tells Glukas he has lost, but Glukas laughs and says "Lost? My boy you have much to learn about the dark side. I have been following your every move throughout this entire epic with hidden cameras. Your every action has been a part of a thing I call reality television, and I have already made my billions on this tripe. All is lost. I now have the money to buy the republic."
It all does seem lost, but then, Luke informs him; "It is you who has lost Glukas, I have known about your treachery all along, and informed the one force in the universe more powerful than you." From the wings enters Obi Wan Schlocky- Ending (Stephen Spielberg) "I thought you might try a "sad" ending Glukas, I have prepared for this moment with a series of horrible sequels of my own. We can't have people believing that any story can end without a happy ending! This is my mission, my destiny." With that, Obi Wan Schlocky-ending pulls out his glowing blue......checkbook and buys the entire Star Wars series, (copyright, and merchandising!) with the money he made from Indiana Jones 4,5,6,7,8,9, and 10 a
I am quite aware of what a virtual host is, but I am also aware that an ISP can shut down ANY of their sites without locking out the rest of the sites on the IP. What we have here is a case of ISP's using baseball bats to combat something they could have used a pea-shooter to cure. The law doesn't state that the IP must be blocked, just the site. The ISP's were doing it this way to create trouble and not comply with the law. It's spirit vs. letter. I am also aware that a few too many people on this site are addressing the child-porn issue, not the IP/rights issue, which really creeps me out. It seems like/. has an underground population of pediphiles I was unaware of. Read the replies dude.
You are absolutely correct, unfortunately, the sickos who really want/need baby-porn seem to be flocking to this thread to revel in their victory. You and I will be modded down so the NAMBLA crowd can discuss their "right" to abuse themselves to images of children.
Jesus, a few too many of you are actually a bit too happy that this law was overturned. Is this site a covert meeting spot for NAMBLA, or have a few too many of you been living in your pwrent's basement looking at little girls and boys too long? If you are over the age of 20 you really should have no need to cruise, fantasize, of dream about girls that are underage. Get a life, date a WOMAN fer cripes sake! Step away from the keyboard and look for an intellectual equal instead of fantasizing about scoring with a sweet, innocent girl that will understand your geeklyness.
I was there earlier this year when they launched SS1, and there were about 30,000 people standing around, and that was just a "test" flight. I have already signed up for one of these thankless jobs because I can't imagine how big this crowd will be 45k, 60k? Seriously, of you can spare two days to do it, it would go a long way to help I think.
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I'm just glad to know SOMEONE will survive if this thing ever becomes airborne. LOL! Three Chinese chicks and a guy in Aboriginal Australia will recreate the human race. Boy, is our species in for a ride!
Let's see
VAX32
Netscape code
Java (use, replace, then disable)
Stolen security and networking from UNIX
Apple's interface
Then there's the subtle criminal stuff like;
Forcing OEMs to be exclusive or charging more (blackmail)
Integrating players and browsers after agreeing with the Feds not to (contempt)
Swearing you could not de-integrate said featured in your court case in the US, then suddenly producing a RUssian and European stripped version within 6 months of losing your case there. (Perjury)
Having your CEO SWEAR that M$ never intended to block out Netscape from the browser market then discovering emails that said you actually did (more perjury)
Claiming you have a "more secure" OS than Linux when a 6 year old has found security holes (poor development, lying, stupidity)
Yep, when I think of ethics and upstanding citizens, Microsoft is the company I want preaching ethics to me! Could there be a larger group of assholes on the planet?
True, it does have VERY small control thrusters, but they could not cancel a tumble or a spin on the way down before it hits heavier atmosphere. For that, you need a couple of 10 foot booms with super-sonic wind blowing over them. This, the shuttlecock. Sorry for the confusion. I should have mentioned the areosols.
SS1 has no control thrusters. When it gets up high and the enging cuts out, there is no way to control the ships attitude....it just drops. The shuttlecocking of the tail orients the ship in a level flight attitude as it begins to hit the atmosphere, and thus avoid spins or entering thicker atmosphere upside down.
But it is right in the middle of it
I am making an observation. Generally, when the ring of fire gets active, it gets REALLY active, then goes through a cyclical calm spell. The recent observations point to an active spike, and I am making that observation. I have no idea if anyone has recently produced a paper on this, but when I was in college this cycle of activity in the ring was a commonly observed phenomena my professor seemed to think was worth watching. Just passing it on. I didn't advise anyone to go buy "End of the World insurance" or anything.
Wow! You're just a sour little shit aren't you? The activity in the last month including large quakes is the most activity seen since the year of the Kobe quake. There have been 18 x 6.0+ on the ring in less than 28 days, YOU do the math.
Oh, and Mauna Loa hasn't blown since 1984. You're thinking of Kilauea, which has been constantly active since 1983. So no, Mauna Loa isn't "CONSTANTLY active", and it's last eruption almost made it to Hilo. It has recently been raising a new dome and it looks to be erupting soon. If you need help finding articles explaining this just ask. Don't go off half-cocked.
Next time you want to throw a superior attitude, at least know what the fuck you're talking about.
Peace out,
Ring of fire activity is up all around the ring. From Japan to Mexico to California, there is a lot of seismic and volcanic activity still going on. St. Helens is just a symptom of something else. I am betting something big happens in the next 3 months. Either an inactive volcano blows, or there's a big EQ in the ring, but something is going to happen. 6.2 in Mexico, 6.0 in California, 7.2 in Japan, St. Helens burps, small quake activity in Alaska and the cascades is up, and Hawaii is looking at Mauna Loa going very active. All of this within the last month, and all of it unusial. I doubt this burp from St' Helens is going to be the total end result.
Good points all. I understand your concerns, but that is why I simply posted "Pilot here" instead of trying to post a long qualification. I was simply posting the information I received from my ATC pals. I figured people could make their own assumptions from that. Pilots know how to fly and how to negotiate complicated airspace, but we rely on a whole mess of other experts to actually keep that airspace organized. All I have to do is get my King Air and it's passengers down safely.
As for the use of Linux, I switched to Linux 3 years ago, and do all my logs and planning on a laptop set to dual boot Suse and M$2k. I am not a fan of M$, and do not depend on their software for much. Luckily, even if the ground system goes down, the best OS of all (Pilot Brain 1.0) is still in control of the aircraft and getting it down safely (as you know). Although it would be dicey, as long as we have radios and UNICOM frequencies, I have no doubt most of us (except for the guys flying the heavies) could get down without any outside aid. The problem is pretty much solved by knowing your AIM/FAR. There is no M$ in my cockpit when I fly, and for that I am thankful.
I wirk out of Long Beach Airport, and am friends with the AT's at that tower. Just like the programmer community, most people within the aircraft industry talk and cross-pollinate. A lot of pilots know the problems with Air Traffic because we want to know what to expect. Same thing foew for weather service. We get to know the guys there as well, and for the same reasons.
Not really, they go partially blind to transponder codes, so they have a hard time determining who is in a Cessna and who is in a 747. All they have are radar blips and the transponder number, but on the radar screens, they lose the designations that show heavy, vfr, and destinations. It's not the end of the world, but it does make it very difficult to keep traffic at a safe distance in class B airspace. The software was down for almost two hours, so it wasn't just a short moment on the backup information.
Pilot here, and this has been a well known pecadillo of the tracking system for SoCal Approach for a few years. It's an application problem that came into being after an upgrade of the application, not the OS. It's a memory allocation error that retains some of the old tracking on the system, thus, the whole box needs to be rebooted every 45 days or the memory overloads and crashes the OS. Look guys, I'm a Linux user and all, but let's not run around blaming M$ for problems with buggy software apps.
SCO has lost the current case, but is still hoping to recoup it's losses from Monterey and a decade of bad business decisions. All this discovery has produced is a possible fraud charge. IANAL but I don't think there is much of a case there. Even if IBMers did discuss getting Sys 5 code by entering into an agreement over Monterey, the agreement/contract is the scope of it.
IBM and SCO agreed to share and develop. If the agreement said either side could pull out at any time (what appears to be the case) then IBM did not commit fraud. If SCO's lawyers approved a contract that didn't lay out that all Sys5 had to be returned if IBM pulled out early, then that is just another bad business decision by SCO. You never share IP without having rock-solid guarantees that you will control that IP. It sounds like IBM entered into Monterey thinking win-win. We either develop a 64 bit Itanium UNIX with SCO, or we pull out and have an upgrade from Sys3 to Sys5.
Of course, if IBM has emails out there that state they NEVER intended to finish Monterey and that the sole purpose of Monterey was to rip off SCO for Sys5, then a court will have to decide if intent overrides the contract as fraud.
3 Com had decent products last timeand they were dumped from this market segment. I have no idea how they think they are going to compete a second time by dangling a price in front of an IT wonk. Any admins here want to risk their jobs?
Let's award Joe Geek for cutting out costs for network equipment this quarter.
Let's fire Joe Geek the next quarter when we start having problems and 3 Com provides the level of support we got for the savings....zero.
Ever try to explain to a CEO why his email is down and how that's a good thing for the bottom line? LOL!
Bush's campaign is based on fear. "Vote for me because the wimpy democrat will get you killed". Between this, and the very god chance that bin Laden will be "apprehended" just before the debates, I am getting more and more anxious that monkey-face Dubya is going to win.
Care to state your name, I did.
My sister was molested by a neighbor. When they finally apprehended him, he had a computer FILLED with kiddie porn and an entire bedroom filled with child-porn mags/pics/and video. Hope this never happens to someone you love.
The problem isn't the IP request, it's the packet filtering, and a good ISP SHOULD know where their packets are going. They should also be able to EASILY identify kiddie-porn sites they have assigned to that IP (it's not like it would be more than 1 or 2. This is just a matter of lazy admins, and reluctant ISP's. It's far easier to block the IP in it's entirity than simply kill the site guilty of violating the TOU.
The information to block the correct site is IN the packet. If you have an offender who is identified, you have a packet pointing right at them.
Episode 7 (The Voyage Home): Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) is now old and broke. After 2 decades of training new Jedi, he now sits around on Dagoba all day complaining about humidity. One day he is contacted by his geriatric friend Han Solo (now King of a planet called Indiana). He tells Luke that a new Sith named Darth Glukas has developed a time machine and has sent back a droid called THX1138 to kill young Anakin in a time-period called "EPISODE 1". Solo explains that if THX1138 isn't stopped, Anakin and his servant Jar Jar Binks will be killed, thus making Luke cease to exist. After a long and perilous journey (where they encounter humpback whales for some reason) Luke and Solo defeat THX1138, but learn on their return that that was Darth Glukas' plan from the beginning. Now Glukas can create an army made entirely of something he calls "director's cuts" and steal all the money in the universe. This will allow him to buy the entire republic and restore the empire. Luke and SOlo are bummed out as we begin;
EPISODE 8 (Lost in Space); Luke and Solo must defeat Darth Glukas' army of director's cuts, but they have no idea where they are or even WHAT they are, so they begin searching randomly throughout the worlds of the republic. They come across a planet and discover a family of beautiful humans who claim they are called the Robinsons, and their ship is the "Jupiter 2". Although the ship they have looks nothing like the one in the republic database, and the Robinsons are far too pretty and have the vacuous acting talent of bannana slugs, they do point out that they have seen the dark side. They point our geratric twosome in the direction of Darth Dr. Smith, who is Darth Glukas' apprentice. Smith doesn't look human at all, but he does look a helluva lot better than the crappy paint on Darth Maul (and he does have the cool black robe) so our duo fights with Darth Smith and strike him down for questioning. After Darth Smith stops whining about his injury "Oh the pain, the pain!" He tells them Darth Glukas and the directors cuts can be found on a planet called Skywalker Ranch and that Darth Glukas will surely defeat them and buy the entire republic unless our heroes can get more help. Off they go
EPISODE 9 (Finally over); Luke and Solo go to get help. They stop at the planet of Angles, where they find Princess Leah (in tight vinyl) and her band of female jedi (Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore, and Lucy Liu). Accompanying them is Leah's Obi Wan (jedi teacher), Obi Wan Morpheus and his assistant Neo. All 8 of them fly to planet Skywalker Ranch and confront Darth Glukas, but alas, Glukas has a suprise for them. He has THREE young apprentice siths working for him. Darth Elrond (Hugo Weaving), Darth Psycho (Crispien Glover), and Darth Bitch (Demi Moore). An epic battle ensues where almost everyone dies while fighting in slow motion with lots of wire fighting and physics-ignoring acrobatics. In the end, Luke and Glukas are the only ones left. Luke tells Glukas he has lost, but Glukas laughs and says "Lost? My boy you have much to learn about the dark side. I have been following your every move throughout this entire epic with hidden cameras. Your every action has been a part of a thing I call reality television, and I have already made my billions on this tripe. All is lost. I now have the money to buy the republic."
It all does seem lost, but then, Luke informs him; "It is you who has lost Glukas, I have known about your treachery all along, and informed the one force in the universe more powerful than you." From the wings enters Obi Wan Schlocky- Ending (Stephen Spielberg) "I thought you might try a "sad" ending Glukas, I have prepared for this moment with a series of horrible sequels of my own. We can't have people believing that any story can end without a happy ending! This is my mission, my destiny." With that, Obi Wan Schlocky-ending pulls out his glowing blue......checkbook and buys the entire Star Wars series, (copyright, and merchandising!) with the money he made from Indiana Jones 4,5,6,7,8,9, and 10 a
I am quite aware of what a virtual host is, but I am also aware that an ISP can shut down ANY of their sites without locking out the rest of the sites on the IP. What we have here is a case of ISP's using baseball bats to combat something they could have used a pea-shooter to cure. The law doesn't state that the IP must be blocked, just the site. The ISP's were doing it this way to create trouble and not comply with the law. It's spirit vs. letter. I am also aware that a few too many people on this site are addressing the child-porn issue, not the IP/rights issue, which really creeps me out. It seems like /. has an underground population of pediphiles I was unaware of. Read the replies dude.
I have yet to ever see a "legitimate" page that contains any pictures of little girls. The fact so many of you seem to support this really sickens me.
Funny how so many of you feel the need to defend this. Is there a reason? Funny how you are all getting modded up if you are for child porn.
You are absolutely correct, unfortunately, the sickos who really want/need baby-porn seem to be flocking to this thread to revel in their victory. You and I will be modded down so the NAMBLA crowd can discuss their "right" to abuse themselves to images of children.
mini-rant coming on;
Jesus, a few too many of you are actually a bit too happy that this law was overturned. Is this site a covert meeting spot for NAMBLA, or have a few too many of you been living in your pwrent's basement looking at little girls and boys too long? If you are over the age of 20 you really should have no need to cruise, fantasize, of dream about girls that are underage. Get a life, date a WOMAN fer cripes sake! Step away from the keyboard and look for an intellectual equal instead of fantasizing about scoring with a sweet, innocent girl that will understand your geeklyness.
Nuff said, mod me down scotty.
I was there earlier this year when they launched SS1, and there were about 30,000 people standing around, and that was just a "test" flight. I have already signed up for one of these thankless jobs because I can't imagine how big this crowd will be 45k, 60k? Seriously, of you can spare two days to do it, it would go a long way to help I think.