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Volunteers Needed for Space Launch

BradNeuberg writes "The Ansari X Prize needs volunteers to help at the Scaled Composites and da Vinci Project's launch attempts in the next few months! I've digitized and created BitTorrent's of an Ansari X Prize video that is pretty cool and can tell you more about what we are doing. Want to be a volunteer? Sign up here. I've also set up a carpool and rideshare list for those who can offer or want a ride down to Mojave, CA to see history made."

122 comments

  1. How do I sign up for a ride? by gevmage · · Score: 4, Funny

    I looked at the volunteer page. They want people to deal with crowd control, ticketing, hospitality, etc. Where's the check box for "I'd like to ride into space"!?!

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    1. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by Professr3 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well, I found the link, but it just pointed to ussr.gov...

    2. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by rokzy · · Score: 2, Funny

      >They want people to deal with crowd control, ticketing, hospitality, etc.

      when they say "deal with", do they mean "...with extreme prejudice"?

      the horror! the horror!

    3. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by ds_online · · Score: 1

      and who would want to volunteer for crowd controll anyway, notice no posts on the ride share list,

    4. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by Biff+Stu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let's face it. If they were so desperate that they needed to recruit flight crew from /., anybody who signs up is a sure bet for a Darwin award.

    5. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by Professr3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Um, PLEASE tell me you knew that was supposed to be funny...

    6. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      Look under "test dummy"

    7. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      . . .anybody who signs up is a sure bet for a Darwin award.

      My children are already old enough to breed themselves.

      One of the advantages to growing old is the discharge of your social and genetic responsibilities, leaving you in a state where you can do any damned fool thing you want. My early expiration could, in fact, be viewed as a social boon, as I'm not quite old enough yet to begin drawing on age based entitlements.

      Your joke is valid though. Once upon a time, Brian Redman got a call from Porsche asking him if he'd like to do some testing on their new car, the 917. Brian says the very first thing that ran through his mind was (my paraphrase), "Wait a minute. Porsche has a stable of the best test drivers in the business. If they're soliciting outside volunteers there's something seriously amiss with the car and they know it."

      And the car did, in fact, develop a reputation as a man killer before it was tamed. It went 40 mph faster than any other car, but was aerodynamically unstable. Not a good combo.

      Oh yeah, Brian took the ride, of course, and the rest is racing history. He helped tame it and didn't die much.

      Not everyone considers the maximum extension of their life as the greatest achievment they can make. We're all going to die someday, like it or not, and I think there is validity in choosing a good day to die.

      God rest Christa. You died "prematurely," but you died doing something that gave you a reason to live, which is more than can ever be said about most people.

      KFG

    8. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by kai.chan · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Considering what happened to Carmack's shuttle, you will be more likely riding into the other world than riding into space. I think it would be safer to wait 10 more years after they announce the winner before plopping down money to fly into space.

    9. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by GoClick · · Score: 1

      Your joke is a little out of date, not to mention Russia wouldn't get any .gov addresses.

    10. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by esukafurone · · Score: 1

      Very touching *sniff*

    11. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by uberdave · · Score: 1

      Pardon my ignorance, but who is Christa?

    12. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by kfg · · Score: 2, Informative

      . . . who is Christa?

      Christa McAuliffe Bio

      KFG

    13. Re:How do I sign up for a ride? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 0, Redundant
      Where's the check box for "I'd like to ride into space"!?!

      Right next to the checkbox for, "I'd like to apply for a Darwin Award."

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  2. Sounds like that... by Mz6 · · Score: 4, Funny

    falls under MISSING OPTION to me. You should make a poll.

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    1. Re:Sounds like that... by xsupergr0verx · · Score: 4, Funny

      I want to send Cowboy Neal into space!

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    2. Re:Sounds like that... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny
      Yeah.

      I hope they land better than Genesis...

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    3. Re:Sounds like that... by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 4, Funny

      They have weight limits, you know.

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  3. Hmmmm... by BalorTFL · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can think of a few ppl I'd like to volunteer for a trip into space... What's that? Round-trip you say? Bah! Nevermind.

    1. Re:Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It won't necessarily be round trip...

      If you're a glass-half-full kind of guy, you might want to just go ahead and send them up on this thing. You can always just abandon them out in the middle of the desert if they manage to land safely.

    2. Re:Hmmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Round trip" just means that they will eventually come back down. Nobody said when or how hard....

  4. What's the problem with volunteering? by SunSaw · · Score: 3, Insightful


    If you can't play in the Super Bowl then why not get a great view of the action!

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    1. Re:What's the problem with volunteering? by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      If they wait that long, by then they'll have lost the X Prize...

    2. Re:What's the problem with volunteering? by uss_valiant · · Score: 1
      If they wait that long, by then they'll have lost the X Prize...
      I assume you've only read the first sentence, "This summer the world will witness the first attempts to win the ANSARI X PRIZE."
      But they're going to launch on September 29th, 2004 and the second flight will be 2 weeks later, October 13th, 2004.

      It's not next summer, I don't know why they're talking about summer, because by the date of the first official flight, we'll have fall. However, it's just 3 weeks from now, I'm sure they'll be the first (and only) team which will finish the 2 official flights in this year (that is, before the deadline).
    3. Re:What's the problem with volunteering? by str8 · · Score: 1

      You haven't seen October in the Mojave DESERT have you? It's summer there until late December.

      Psst. Hey buddy, can you spare a .sig?

    4. Re:What's the problem with volunteering? by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's a race for the finish. Scaled Composites is making their first launch on September 29. The Da Vinci project is making their first launch on October 2. The winner of the prize will be the one who finishes their second launch first -- and that second launch must take place within two weeks of the first.

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  5. Wasn't history already made? by ravenspear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean, the winning of the X Prize will certainly be a significant event in the privatization of access to space, but the first private flight already took place, which is very significant in itself.

    1. Re:Wasn't history already made? by tumbaumba · · Score: 1

      I mean, the winning of the X Prize will certainly be a significant event in the privatization of access to space, but the first private flight already took place, which is very significant in itself.

      I don't think the history was made. When private space flight will orbit the Earth then it will indeed be a historical even, but for now it is not. Remember however that difficulties to get to the orbit will grow exponentially.

    2. Re:Wasn't history already made? by ravenspear · · Score: 1

      I agree for the most part. A 100km flight is a long way from orbit. I guess what I was mainly saying was I don't think the actual flight that wins the XPrize will be much more significant in a historical context than the one that already took place. They are both certainly small pudding compared to what is to come though.

    3. Re:Wasn't history already made? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      private, sure, but not a commercial flight. Anyone with way too much money can buy anything they want, but is is not commercial until many people can get whatever for a set price.

    4. Re:Wasn't history already made? by tumbaumba · · Score: 1

      I guess what I was mainly saying was I don't think the actual flight that wins the XPrize will be much more significant in a historical context than the one that already took place. They are both certainly small pudding compared to what is to come though.

      I was not trying to downplay what this guys are doing, just point out to what you just said, that what is left out is much much harder than what they did up until now. I wish them good luck and hope they can make it at some point in the future to the orbit, but I don't hold my breath yet.

    5. Re:Wasn't history already made? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "privatization of access to space"

      Who cares. Tell me when they are able to create their own oxygen. Until then, I'll be in my cyrogenic chamber.

  6. Bah by mfh · · Score: 1

    Want to be a volunteer? Sign up here.

    They might *need* crowd control. *cringes*

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  7. Checks the "porta-john patrol" box......... by ARRRLovin · · Score: 5, Funny

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH I hope they email me back!

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  8. Future Dates? by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting
    How cool! Mojave is on the way to Death Valley where I'll be going on vacation in a couple months. It would be spifftacular to stop by there to help out, though the only date I saw on the sign up was Sept 29th, which is too soon.

    When in the neighborhood be sure to check out the huge wind farm on the western side of the Tehachapi Pass, the Tehachapi Loop and all the mothballed aircraft parked outside of Mojave. There's also camping up at Red Rock Canyon State Park (a great place to watch for meteor showers =)

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    1. Re:Future Dates? by boinger · · Score: 1

      You like DV, too? I frickin' love that place. I'll be there for the fourth time (fourth year in a row) in November. Have you gone over to the racetrack (where the sliding rocks are)? Well worth the trek (I recommend you use a rental 4x4, and make sure your spare tire is up to pressure. The rangers recommend you have two spares, actually, because often what causes the flat will get both tires on that side. But double spares isn't really a rental option. I had no problems, incidentally, just telling you what they told me.)

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  9. Positions by Fiz+Ocelot · · Score: 1, Funny
    "I would like to work in the following area(s): ticketing parking traffic control crowd control information booth hospitality"

    But where the hell is pilot?!

  10. Look under... by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
    Where's the check box for "I'd like to ride into space"!?!

    Look under Carpooling.

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  11. Blow in the tube... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    ...or pull on the catapult's ropes?

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    1. Re:Blow in the tube... by kfg · · Score: 1

      Damn, you've just given me ideas. I hate when that happens. I think I'll name my craft the "Wile E.".

      Film at 11. Don't let the kids see it. It won't be pretty; and it might give them ideas.

      KFG

  12. "The Ansari X Prize needs volunteers" by idontgno · · Score: 4, Funny

    What, ballast?

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    1. Re:"The Ansari X Prize needs volunteers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuel.

  13. Didn't see a checkbox for "BIG RED BUTTON" pusher by IronChefMorimoto · · Score: 5, Funny

    I totally understand that volunteers can't fly on the actual flight.

    But can ya open up a few "BIG RED BUTTON" pusher slots? I mean -- there's gotta a be a few "BIG RED BUTTONS" to push.

    I'm your man for the following "BIG RED BUTTON" volunteer spots:

    • LAUNCH button
    • ABORT button
    • EJECTOR SEAT button (a backup to the ABORT button)
    • APPLAUSE button ('cause loser media types in audience won't know to clap when everything goes right)
    • WARP DRIVE button (I know they've got a surprise up their sleeves -- I just know it)
    • "CUT OFF MEDIA SATELLITE FEED IF SOMETHING GOES HORRIBLY WRONG" button ('cause loser media types also know how to go apeshit when something goes wrong)

    I look forward to applying for volunteer status on one of these "BIG RED BUTTONS." In the meantime, good luck!

    IronChefMorimoto

  14. Shouldn't this be left for the pros? by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These things are being done in the unpopulated desert areas of the USA for a very specific reason... if these things misfire they want as few people and things in the area. Afterall, we just saw NASA drop a space probe they were hoping to catch, and nobody was in any danger because they intentionally did the operation over an unpopulated desert because landing into a creator in the sand was a very tolerable worst-case situation.

    Crowd control shouldn't be an issue. There should be no crowds to begin with... let's watch these things from a safe distance here on /. instead.

    1. Re:Shouldn't this be left for the pros? by idiotfromia · · Score: 1

      X-prize is all about giving the amatuers a try. They need a few massive failures before experience can give them anything to work from. They can still have people watch, but like at the space centers, from a distance.

    2. Re:Shouldn't this be left for the pros? by Chagrin · · Score: 1
      • landing into a creator in the sand was a very tolerable worst-case situation.
      Strange. You'd think the creator would be much more upset.
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    3. Re:Shouldn't this be left for the pros? by rpj1288 · · Score: 1

      Scared of the sunlight eh? If I could get away from school to go, I would. I know the risks, and so does everyone interested enough to have been following the projects. People who go do so of their own will. It's not like they're forced too. So go back to your basement.

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    4. Re:Shouldn't this be left for the pros? by gotem · · Score: 1

      landing into a creator in the sand was a very tolerable worst-case situation.
      Sure God would be very pissed off

    5. Re:Shouldn't this be left for the pros? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you even, ever, quite possibly RTFA and possibly, maybe formulate some coherent idea in your walnut-sized rock of an excuse for a brain?

      I was at the last one. You'd be more in danger of having your ankles bit by some kid, or being run into by some dork on a bike.

      The "rocket" segment of the flight ignites miles up in the air. All of the "aircraft" portions of the flight are tried and true aircraft designs and nominal, normal aircraft take offs.

      You would literally be in more danger watching single engine private craft take off and land.

      If I could get my fscking hands on you I'd put the fear of c'thulhu into you with... MY WANG, for fsck's sakes. Go back to your stupid hovel and chewing your nails while watching the news on 15 different TVs.

    6. Re:Shouldn't this be left for the pros? by Gogo+Dodo · · Score: 2, Informative

      NASA didn't "drop" the Genesis probe as that implies that they had caught it one time or another. The helicopters never even came close to catching Genesis. RTO(ther)FA before you comment.

  15. Damn! by Paster+Of+Muppets · · Score: 5, Funny

    Checklist:Got life insurance (limited term), travel insurance (possibly leaving the country's borders), vehicle insurance (protects it against bumps and dents on the way down). Damnit, I can't be the pilot after all. Still, parking attendant could be a dangerous job...

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  16. I would totally by roman_mir · · Score: 1, Redundant

    volunteer to be the ballast in the space-ship, but they need someone to park their cars

  17. Requirements? by AnonymousKev · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do they want folks who do well or crack under pressure? :)

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    1. Re:Requirements? by sploo22 · · Score: 1

      Probably the latter - remember, you're going to be in the vacuum of space so the effect is negative. ;)

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    2. Re:Requirements? by joemc79 · · Score: 1

      Neither, as long as they have good estimation skills.

  18. Going into space? by Raseri · · Score: 0

    The article doesn't say anything about launching the volunteers into space, just that volunteers are needed for the projects. More than likely it will be for manual labor-type jobs, like cleaning up afterwards.

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    1. Re:Going into space? by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      The article doesn't say anything about launching the volunteers into space, just that volunteers are needed for the projects. More than likely it will be for manual labor-type jobs, like cleaning up afterwards.

      I don't know why I get my hopes up when Captain Obvious here is just going to come along and beat them with a tennis racquet.

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  19. da Vinci launch as well? by Drakonian · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The Slashdot blurb mentions both SpaceShipOne and the da Vinci (Golden Palace?) launch needed volunteers. But the page linked seems to only talk about the SS1 launch. Do you sign up to volunteer for the da Vinci launch here as well?

    I ask because it's relatively close to me. It's in Kindersley, Saskatchewan.

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    1. Re:da Vinci launch as well? by Performer+Guy · · Score: 1

      Yea and the da Vinci launch should be much more fun to watch seeing as it's more likely to blow up.

    2. Re:da Vinci launch as well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      from http://www.kindersley.ca/davinci.html

      Volunteer Registration
      Volunteers needed for security, parking, registration, community expo as well as other
      areas. Call 463-5559 or email blastoff@sasktel.net

    3. Re:da Vinci launch as well? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it even gets to the point where it can blow up. I don't think anything flyable really exists.

    4. Re:da Vinci launch as well? by grozzie2 · · Score: 1
      The type of rocket motor used on SS1 pretty much precludes it blowing up from a fuel induced explosion. The fact that it's an aerodynamic structure, with wings etc, gives it a much higher probability of coming apart in flight due to stresses on the airframe. SS1 is not Rutan's first attempt at a supersonic airframe, it's just the first one that hasn't come apart in flight and killed it's crew (yet). Google for BD-10 flight test accidents to see what happened to his last supersonic design. The feathering design of SS1 leaves it with a major 'weak spot', the whole airframe is a 'moving part'. The control problems on the last flight show, the design is not without it's weaknesses.

      Wildfire will be a non event to watch the launch, since it's going up under a balloon to 80,000 feet. The airframe itself has not had an all up flight configuration live test yet, but, it's a relatively simple design, with little/no real aerodynamics involved, and no flying surfaces other than a couple stabilizer fins. Like SS1, it's using a hybrid engine, so the potential for a fuel explosion is little/none.

      If you want to watch things blow up, you are much better off waiting to go watch a shuttle being fueled or launched, should they ever actually do that again. With all that liquid fuel, it's just a big bomb waiting to explode. Both SS1 and Wildfire have potential for an in flight breakup, SS1 being a much higher potential than Wildfire simply due to the type of structures involved. In either case, the chances of a real explosion are virtually nil.

  20. Re:Didn't see a checkbox for "BIG RED BUTTON" push by servognome · · Score: 2, Funny

    I volunteer for blinking lights monitoring.

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  21. I know some people... by ultramk · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know some people who I would like to volunteer for this project... ...so, if I drop them off in a few gunny sacks on launch day, will that work?

    If they make any noise or anything, just ignore them. Bunch of kidders... hehe.

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  22. Can I nominate someone else? by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 3, Funny

    cat foes > nominations.txt

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    1. Re:Can I nominate someone else? by mod_parent_down · · Score: 1
      what's a cat foe?

      microwavin'

      oh, and also a REAL cat foe.

  23. Is that you, Darl? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I didn't realize that you were looking for a job already.

  24. You'd think with that money for the big prize by SetupWeasel · · Score: 2

    They could afford to PAY people for doing their dirty work.

  25. Haven't they learned yet? by nastro · · Score: 1

    The best astronauts are found drilling for oil in the North Sea, or some other inhospitable location. It's been stamped with Billy Bob Thornton's approval.

  26. Mmmmmm..... by Infernon · · Score: 1

    space lunch....

  27. Da Vinci Project Rocket by Slurms · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would like to see some pictures of the rocket that the Da Vinci Project actually expects to launch in less than a month.

    The pictures I see on their site just seem to be a fibreglass and plywood mockup from last year. At least I hope it's a mockup.

    Maybe fibreglass is tougher stuff than I think it is, and maybe it will behave better than I think will under accelleration at low atmospheric pressures.

    But then I'm am not a rocket scientist, but I do play doctor when given the opportunity.

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    1. Re:Da Vinci Project Rocket by gevmage · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Actually, fiberglass is quite strong. If you lay fiberglass over styrafoam, you get "composite" material, which is the construction method for pretty much everything Burt Rutan builds. (Voyager, White Knight, SpaceShip One, and the Beech Starships).

      To say nothing of the various kit plan designs that are composites.

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    2. Re:Da Vinci Project Rocket by Slurms · · Score: 1

      I thought I read early on that SpaceShip One has a aluminum "pressure vessel" inside the fibreglass shell.

      Naturally I can't find a reference now.

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    3. Re:Da Vinci Project Rocket by Penguinshit · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Uh, buddy, Rutan is using carbon fiber composites, not fiberglass over foam (which is what my surfboard is made of, and as much air as I like to catch using it, I'm not going for the X-Prize). Fiberglass is not a suitable material for building air/spacecraft (although you can include it in certain non/low-stress components).

    4. Re:Da Vinci Project Rocket by SunBug · · Score: 1

      Fiberglass is fairly popular as the primary component in aircraft construction for general aviation and experimental aircraft.

      See:
      - Glasair/Glastar
      - Cozy Mk IV
      - Vari-EZ and Long-EZ (couple of Rutan's designs; he has several others that all use composite fiberglass construction.)
      - Quickie
      - Cirrus SR20

      Those are just a few that I can think of right now. There are dozens of others.

      I would imagine that the spacecraft is built with mostly carbon though. It's stronger than fiberglass and can be built lighter.

  28. They need volunteers guys by Teahouse · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was there earlier this year when they launched SS1, and there were about 30,000 people standing around, and that was just a "test" flight. I have already signed up for one of these thankless jobs because I can't imagine how big this crowd will be 45k, 60k? Seriously, of you can spare two days to do it, it would go a long way to help I think.

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  29. security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i wonder what types of roles the volunteers will have, and what kind of screening process they will have to go through. We saw in the movie Contact why a careful and thorough screening process is needed during these types of operations.

  30. not like any other gathering. by deathcloset · · Score: 5, Interesting

    they will need the help, but not so much as other events of similar size.

    I was present at the first SpaceShipOne manned spaceflight and I must say, the whole experience was so unique.

    I've been to many large events/gatherings and I must say that the crowd that gathered for that launch was remarkable: unusual.

    Probably the most obvious indicator that this was no ordinary crowd was the state of the portable bathrooms: they were spotless.

    Go to any concert and the sanitary conditions of those things is horrific; but here there was nary a corner of toilet tissue on the floor.

    Which brings me to the second observation: no litter. There was, seriously, no litter. Even in my extraordinarily beleaguered state I was taken aback at how spotless everything was as the crowd dispersed following the landings.

    Another observation of note, the din: there was none. Not that one would expect hooting and hollering of Metallicaesqe magnitude; nevertheless the noise level was so peaceful you could close your eyes and almost believe it was you and a few dozen others - not thousands (well, at least until Paul Allen started speaking inaudibly over the loudspeaker).

    Of course this state of pax may have been partially attributed to the fact that so many of us were running on fumes at that time of the morning, after having driven whatever distances we drove (myself 6 hours, northern cali).

    And of particular note, the decency. I recall seeing a group of onlookers gladly making room for an elderly gentleman - right at the nylon rope meters from the runway. these half-dozen camera-wearing men simply picked up their chairs and created a spot. those around the perimeter gladly scooted a few feet to allow for this.

    For a moment I thought how wonderful it would be to have a society consisting completely of people like this: a veritable techocratic utopia.

    and then I wondered, why aren't all societies like this right now?

    1. Re:not like any other gathering. by ptbarnett · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Which brings me to the second observation: no litter. There was, seriously, no litter. Even in my extraordinarily beleaguered state I was taken aback at how spotless everything was as the crowd dispersed following the landings.

      I've never been to the annual Experimental Aircraft Association fly-in to Oshkosh, WI (in August), but this is one of its distinctive features: the grounds are spotless.

      Articles written by attendees almost always include this observation, and I've read several that reported seeing litter discarded by a thoughtless visitor scooped up and deposited in the trash by another visitor only a few steps behind the offender.

      I've noticed the same phenomena at the Albuquerque Balloon Festival, once you get away from the concession stands.

      Maybe it's has something to do with the kind of people that are aviation fanatics.

    2. Re:not like any other gathering. by tezzer · · Score: 2, Informative

      One of the reasons aviation fanatics are very good about trash is the constant warnings around airfields about FOD (Foreign Object Damage). You get a bit of trash sucked into an engine (and most engines will suck up any trash available), and you have one unfortunate pilot.

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    3. Re:not like any other gathering. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      give a shit

    4. Re:not like any other gathering. by glitch! · · Score: 1

      Which brings me to the second observation: no litter.

      Contrast this to the Reno Air Races. It's been a few years since I have gone, but the last time I was there I was behind the bleacher seats for a short while. There was an endless stream of trash falling from above, at least one piece every few seconds it seemed. The paper cups were especially easy to notice, as they make a distinctive sound as they bounce off the asphault.

      I remember thinking at the time, "what a bunch of [expletive] pigs!"

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    5. Re:not like any other gathering. by Comatose51 · · Score: 1
      For a moment I thought how wonderful it would be to have a society consisting completely of people like this: a veritable techocratic utopia. and then I wondered, why aren't all societies like this right now?

      Because any such society is doomed to be extinct. You can't procreate if none of the members are having sex. J/K.

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    6. Re:not like any other gathering. by golgotha007 · · Score: 1

      Which brings me to the second observation: no litter. There was, seriously, no litter.

      and on the other end of the spectrum, we have any Southern California public park after a Cinco de Mayo holiday...

      makes me sick.

    7. Re:not like any other gathering. by mdrn28 · · Score: 1

      Articles written by attendees almost always include this observation, and I've read several that reported seeing litter discarded by a thoughtless visitor scooped up and deposited in the trash by another visitor only a few steps behind the offender. It seems there is hope for humanity after all. :-)

  31. Re: That job is already taken by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 0, Troll
    First they were worried they couldn't find anyone, but then they found a guy named Osama who was willing to take his chances.

    A mod point gives you the freedom to mod this up as "Funny".

  32. Re:Didn't see a checkbox for "BIG RED BUTTON" push by ckaminski · · Score: 2, Funny

    Only if I get a clipboard...

    Gotta have my clipboard....

    <mumble mumble> stapler <mumble>

  33. Missing Options: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Volunteer for the following positions:

    1) The "Are We There Yet?" guy.
    2) The Vulcan foam hand thingy vendor (what, like there won't be any trekkers in the audience)
    3) The dude that calibrates the "Chairhead" on the moon laser.
    4) The guy that ports their system software to Linux
    5) The SCO volunteer paralegal that charges volunteer for #4 $699
    6) The guy that yells "BOOM!!!" at random intervals.
    7) The guy that beats #6 to a pulp

  34. Re: That job is already taken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very funny?
    You from the US by any chance?

  35. For those who've never volunteered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Volunteering for this kind of stuff makes the experience several magnitude more enjoyable. I know it's not the most logical thing, but by participating even just a little bit, you get a much bigger sense of being "part of it".

    I speak from experience. For years I'd attend events and snicker at the poor volunteers who had to stand around in the sun and who missed half the show. But then I started doing it myself and I'm hooked. It's ten times better to be part of the show than to watch the show.

  36. Mr. Bush could be the ideal co-pilot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great idea! Mr. Bush could be the ideal co-pilot, with his enormous flight experience.

  37. Question about location by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the da Vinci one going to be in the states too, or will it happen in TO?

    Reason being is I'd like to volunteer, but I live in TO. I'm no way travelling, but I'd do something locally if I can/could.

    Thanks!

  38. I have good information by John_Allen_Mohammed · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    that Jake Busey would like to volunteer for this mission. You might also know him as Joseph.

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    1. Re:I have good information by John_Allen_Mohammed · · Score: 1

      Offtopic ? whatever... that was a pretty good joke, sorry to the angry little moderator that didn't get it.. *hint* think of Jodie Foster & The Machine in Contact... sheesh

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  39. you can always just 'forget' them by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

    right after you convienently send themn on their very first (and last) space walk

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  40. Volunteers? At $35 per car hire somebody! by Greg@RageNet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Really! I paid less for a ticket to the last concert I attended, which was a per profit enterprise and everyone who worked it got paid. Most events I've attended where they've had to park cars it was a more reasonable $4-8 per car to pay for parking attendants. I attended the last launch and parking was _free_. I do think they should attempt to cover their costs for crowd control on the launch but I think $35 is outragous and then to have the nards to ask for volunteer labor? Hah!

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    1. Re:Volunteers? At $35 per car hire somebody! by jmichaelg · · Score: 1
      I attended the last launch and parking was _free_.

      Don't know how you finagled free parking. Everyone else paid a minimum of $10 to park.

      Nonetheless, when I saw the $35 fee I thought that perhaps they were spending the money on improving the viewer's experience. The sound system last June was lousy - even though the crowd was fairly quiet, you still couldn't hear what was on the PA system. When you got right next to one of the few speakers littered around the parking lot, you got to hear a local politician talk about how great it all was so it was just as well you couldn't hear much. I figure that for $35 they ought to be able to pay someone who has a clue as to what's going to give color commentary, tie the PA system into the ground/ship chatter so we can hear things as they happen and perhaps have some jumbotrons getting a feed from an airborne camera so we can see something more than a speck generate a contrail.

      It was fun once but if the next time is like the first, I'll pass on going back to Mojave.

  41. If you must... by Cyclone_TBW · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ok you got me, I will push the big "red" button.

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    1. Re:If you must... by NeuroManson · · Score: 1

      See this button? Don't touch it !! It's the History Eraser Button, you fool!

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      That's just it! We don't know. Maybe something bad, maybe something good. I guess we'll never know. Cause you're going to guard it. You won't touch it, will you?

      Oh, how long can trusty Cadet Stimpy hold out?
      How can he possibly resist the diabolical urge to push the button that could erase his very existence?

      Will his tortured mind give in to it's uncontrollable desires? Can he withstand the temptation to push the button, that even now, beckons him ever closer?

      Will he succumb to the maddening urge to eradicate history, at the mere push of a single button?

      The beautiful shiny button!

      The jolly candy-like button!

      Will he hold out, folks?

      Can he hold out?

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  42. dicey by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd love to see their insurance rider.

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  43. Sure, the LAUNCH button would be fun by protein+folder · · Score: 2, Funny

    But how badly would it suck to get assigned the EJECTOR SEAT button and then have a completely successful flight?

    <Shatner>Must... not... push... ejector seat button! Must remain... calm... but it compels me! Everything... fine... no need to push... the button. Must push the button!!!! It is... what makes us... human.</Shatner> (pushes button, sending screaming Ansarinauts into space, resulting in the loss of the rocket).

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  44. Asteroid Toutatis flyby that day by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I went to put the date on my calendar (not like I'll make it, but I can dream), I noticed that September 29 is also the date that earth-crossing asteroid Toutatis is scheduled to make its closest approach to Earth. The bizarrely-shaped object is the size of a "small city" (whatever that means), and is due to get no closer than four times the earth-moon distance.

    According to the wsu.edu page: 'Toutatis (also called Teutates) was an ancient Celtic god of war, fertility and wealth worshipped in Gaul. His name means "the god of the tribe".' His name is invoked regularly by the French cartoon character Asterix, who also fears that the sky will fall on his head.

    Certainly an auspicious day for anyone interested in the heavens. Let's hope what's already up stays up, and what goes up comes down safely.

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    1. Re:Asteroid Toutatis flyby that day by sw155kn1f3 · · Score: 0

      Yawn... Relax man... We have Bruce Willis to save the Earth...
      I mean he drills, he thrills.. He makes love, no war . He drives flying cars. All sort of cool things.
      You buddy just get a beer and relax.

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  45. Bring a casserole by Libertarian_Geek · · Score: 0

    Or plastic cups and plates.

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  46. Use prison men by Hao+Wu · · Score: 0

    This could be way for prisoners to re-pay their greif to society. A sort of "Dirty Dozen" men of astronaughts could volunteer to have their sentence reduced. Nothing to lose if wasting do hard time for terrible crime, instead make SPACE history.

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  47. If somebody has to do it... by Mulletproof · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Volunteers Needed for Space Launch!

    ...Well, not that you'll really have anything to do with the launch itself. But you can take tickets. Maybe do some crowd control. Oh, and don't forget my latte. Fact is, we're next to broke, so instead of hiring professionals, we're hiring you and will be keeping that 10 million for ourselves. That's fair, right? After all, you're a part of history, directing traffic and all that.

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    1. Re:If somebody has to do it... by dschl · · Score: 1
      define:altruism

      I am neither a cad designer, nor an aerospace engineer, and cannot help build the DaVinci project (almost entirely volunteer driven). But I'm considering taking a few days off work*, and driving for 14 hours to go to Kindersley, and, if they need volunteers for traffic control or whatever, helping out.

      *depending on whether I can finish writing the 3 overdue reports sitting on my desk first

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  48. ride into space? by khrtt · · Score: 1


    I'd volunteer for Carmack's enterprize -- it just seems so much cooler than the rest of them. Even though it's probably the most dangerous of these rides, and I don't think they have a plan about how to go about landing yet. There is something unbelievably cool about riding up into space on top of a $30,000 fiberglass tank full of peroxide. By comparison the $20M finely crafted rubber rocket just doesn't cut it. It's too expensive, and it doesn't have this garage-built sense to it that makes it all fun.

  49. unpopulated areas by dpilot · · Score: 1

    Any shot at a carpool from Vermont?

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  50. 10 seconds of flight? Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    If those silly bicycle makers had managed to fly their heavier than air machine 10 minutes, that would have at least been interesting!

    Heavier than air flying machines will never take off.

  51. Have no fear by jpatters · · Score: 1

    Have no fear, have no fear, you will be killed right away.

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  52. Manditory wise crack by DarkMantle · · Score: 1

    ...but I do play doctor when given the opportunity.

    And the last opportunity was how many years ago?

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  53. Mod this up! by aggiefalcon01 · · Score: 1

    Quite on-topic, IMHO. I'm out of points, of course...

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  54. I for one by jjholt1213 · · Score: 1

    Welcome our volunteering overlords.

  55. The MS SpaceShipOne by CDWalton · · Score: 0, Troll

    Did anyone else catch the Designed for Windows XP logo on SpaceShipOne?

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  56. Re:Didn't see a checkbox for "BIG RED BUTTON" push by Alsee · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't that be BIG RED SHINY BUTTON?"

    p.s.
    lameness filter encountered: don't use so many caps.


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  57. BitTorrent by Cow007 · · Score: 1

    Good work on your bittorrent link for that movie. Seems finally some posters are waking up to technology that prevents slashdotting. Nice try for the theora to java people but the movie still played slowly without sound. (mabye its my old computer but i don't think so). So, when is bit torrent going to be ported to java? (yes I know what azueraus is but it dosen't work from within a browser) BitTorrent needs to come to the browser and when it does I will be even more happy.

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