I would think that encripting somthing twice at the same bit lenth with with the same function wouldn't produce anything more secure, I don't really know much about "real" encription, but take the example of XOR encription:
((m xor b) xor b) = x, so b is your key.
if (((m xor b) xor c)) = y, then you might be tempted to think that you'd need to use (((y xor c) xor b) to find x. but you could also use (y xor (b xor c)) as well, and if you were searching the entire keyspace, you might find (b xor c) first... but I assume that the stuff there talking about is nothing like xor encription...
If you used two keys of diffrent lengh though, it would be more difficult, especaly ones that don't "resonate" for instance if you used a 64-bit key, and a 128 bit key, it would be the same as using one 128-bit key, just make sure they arn't both factors of any small number... --------------- Chad Okere
I believe you have the NSA and RSA confused the NSA, or National Security Agency is a part of the government that I believe is responsible for some sort of spying. They also ran the ECHELON project that had, (and still has) the capability to tap any and all communications. RSA, who's name stands for the people who founded the company and figured out public key cryptography
the NSA would have no reason to try and keep any cryptography "off the shelves" so to speck, because they aren't a for profit company. While they couldn't forcibly get someone not to post there ideas, there's nothing stopping them from buying them off...
hrm, a k5/133? vs a p75? you probably downgraded... the k5 sucked compared to the good old pentium, and my p75 ran fine at 124mhz --------------- Chad Okere
the diffrence is the new SMID instructions for floating point... there's about a 50% improvment in terms of FP power for games and such (that don't require super high acurcy) --------------- Chad Okere
Well, they didn't say VIA couldn't licens GTL+, infact, they did... they just arn't alowed to promote a 133mhz bus untill intel does --------------- Chad Okere
from what it sounded like, intell didn't really have any *reason* to sue them... Chip companys sue eachother all the time, they all use eachothers technology to. its pretty convoluded:) --------------- Chad Okere
well I hardly think Intel has a monopoly.. they had *Less* then 50% of the "sub $1000" PC market last year.. AMD is kicking there ass as Economical, if not in terms of CPU power or influnce:) --------------- Chad Okere
from what I've heard on tomshardware They have a licens to the GTL+ stuff, but it spesificaly restricts them from *promoting* a 133 mhz bus speed untill intel puts out there 133mhz part. Via is a head of them, I guess. From what I've heard, it seems like intel likes to take things slow, but make things well... Some of the Pc133 RAM makers requested to have there stuff tested with overclocked BX's... (besides, the Abit's bx6 2.0 can run at 150(100mhz AGP anyone:P)) --------------- Chad Okere
from what I've heard on tomshardware They have a licens to the GTL+ stuff, but it spesificaly restricts them from *promoting* a 133 mhz bus speed untill intel puts out there 133mhz part. Via is a head of them, I guess. From what I've heard, it seems like intel likes to take things slow, but make things well... Some of the Pc133 RAM makers requested to have there stuff tested with overclocked BX's... (besides, the Abit's bx6 2.0 can run at 150(100mhz AGP anyone:P)) --------------- Chad Okere
well, I dobut he'd have any money in other *nixs, considerin he seemed to say that Unix was never profitable... witch is laughable. I mean god, this guy *uses* windows, and he donsn't even know it still has a (somewhat usefull) CLI!! --------------- Chad Okere
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There is no MS office compition, that's why it's not bundled:)
Um... there are a large number of WWW or FTP servers that run on windows 95/98 including apache, 98's even less stable then NT, but there good for personal use --------------- Chad Okere
Wow! it's just like SPAM, and that dosn't piss people off at all!!
if you want to change someones oppinion, yelling at them is not the way to do it. just beacuse you feel somthing is wrong dosn't mean it really is. you relize that don't yo? --------------- Chad Okere
Um, we *do* have a lot black people running around calling themselves niggers, don't you listen to hip-hop? anyway, it dosn't matter.. there can be more than one meaning, and *Certanly* more than one connotation to a word --------------- Chad Okere
I personally think this whole thing is overrated. *Words can have more than one meaning,* people. When I think of a "hacker" without context I think of someone who breaks into computer systems, and the fact is, most "non-nerd" people understand it that way only. When I hear someone call Linus Torvlads a "hacker" I know they mean someone who likes to code (for lack of a better short description).
When I think of "Cracker" I think of a hacker in the first sense, but one who destroys data, and generally malicious. They may be a good programmer, or they may just use netbus. They are not necessarily a Hacker (although they probably call themselves one)
You are never going to be able to change the way that the word is use, and more than that, I don't think it *should* be changed. A hacker is someone who loves computers, and likes to explore them. The general public probably only knows about the small subset of hackers who are interested in computer security (usually getting past it). I don't think of it as a pejorative at all.
Also, I don't think that we should be forced to change the word used to describe us. "Coder" works well, as does "nerd." We are hackers, however, and we shouldn't have to change that. The best thing I can think that we can do to try and change the *connotation* of that word is to *use* it. Use it a lot, when you're writing on slashdot, or if you have a chance to give a quote for the mass media (if you're a public figure). Let the world know
With things like Linux in the spotlight, it's our chance to let the general public know about the other meanings of the word. We are never going to get the mass media to stop calling computer crackers "hackers" (and there *not* wrong IMHO). If we can get the media to call us hackers to, then our meaning will get out as well.
Ideally we'd want to see something like this in time magazine: "Linux, an open source operating system created by hackers (not the same kind of hackers who break into computer systems). Has finally beaten Microsoft windows on the...."
All we have to do is educate people. But there not going to change the words that they already know...
Btw, another problem with trying to get the word "crackers" used is because they call themselves hackers. I think we should call malicious hackers "Dark Hackers." I think it's a cool enough sounding term to be used, and it resolves the conflict. What do you think?
I think what the guy had in mind was calling someone "gay" or more particularly "queer" to denote homosexuality could have good or bad connotations. They could be an insult, or just an observation. --------------- Chad Okere
Heh, acutaly 3dfx drivers suck on windows to. they *Still* don't have a full working ICD, and there users are having tons of trouble getting the q3a test to work. to top it off. They've been trying to get people to write games in glide, by making terrible OGL and even d3d drivers, and now its backfiring. --------------- Chad Okere
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I would think that encripting somthing twice at the same bit lenth with with the same function wouldn't produce anything more secure, I don't really know much about "real" encription, but take the example of XOR encription:
((m xor b) xor b) = x, so b is your key.
if (((m xor b) xor c)) = y, then you might be tempted to think that you'd need to use (((y xor c) xor b) to find x. but you could also use (y xor (b xor c)) as well, and if you were searching the entire keyspace, you might find (b xor c) first... but I assume that the stuff there talking about is nothing like xor encription...
If you used two keys of diffrent lengh though, it would be more difficult, especaly ones that don't "resonate" for instance if you used a 64-bit key, and a 128 bit key, it would be the same as using one 128-bit key, just make sure they arn't both factors of any small number...
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I believe you have the NSA and RSA confused the NSA, or National Security Agency is a part of the government that I believe is responsible for some sort of spying. They also ran the ECHELON
project that had, (and still has) the capability to tap any and all communications. RSA, who's name stands for the people who founded the company and figured out public key cryptography
the NSA would have no reason to try and keep any cryptography "off the shelves" so to speck, because they aren't a for profit company. While they couldn't forcibly get someone not to post there ideas, there's nothing stopping them from buying them off...
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Chad Okere
hrm, a k5/133? vs a p75? you probably downgraded... the k5 sucked compared to the good old pentium, and my p75 ran fine at 124mhz
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Chad Okere
the diffrence is the new SMID instructions for floating point... there's about a 50% improvment in terms of FP power for games and such (that don't require super high acurcy)
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Well, they didn't say VIA couldn't licens GTL+, infact, they did... they just arn't alowed to promote a 133mhz bus untill intel does
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Chad Okere
well, on pII's(not cells) you can *lower* the multipler, so you could still run the chip near it's spec, if you wanted to... but who would want to?
intell's going to be comming out with 133 bus pIIIs soon anyway. YAY PIII 666!!!!!! Woohoo
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Chad Okere
from what it sounded like, intell didn't really have any *reason* to sue them... Chip companys sue eachother all the time, they all use eachothers technology to. its pretty convoluded :)
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Chad Okere
well I hardly think Intel has a monopoly.. they had *Less* then 50% of the "sub $1000" PC market last year.. AMD is kicking there ass as Economical, if not in terms of CPU power or influnce :)
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from what I've heard on tomshardware They have a licens to the GTL+ stuff, but it spesificaly restricts them from *promoting* a 133 mhz bus speed untill intel puts out there 133mhz part. Via is a head of them, I guess. From what I've heard, it seems like intel likes to take things slow, but make things well... Some of the Pc133 RAM makers requested to have there stuff tested with overclocked BX's... (besides, the Abit's bx6 2.0 can run at 150(100mhz AGP anyone :P))
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Chad Okere
from what I've heard on tomshardware They have a licens to the GTL+ stuff, but it spesificaly restricts them from *promoting* a 133 mhz bus speed untill intel puts out there 133mhz part. Via is a head of them, I guess. From what I've heard, it seems like intel likes to take things slow, but make things well... Some of the Pc133 RAM makers requested to have there stuff tested with overclocked BX's... :P))
(besides, the Abit's bx6 2.0 can run at 150(100mhz AGP anyone
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Chad Okere
well, I dobut he'd have any money in other *nixs, considerin he seemed to say that Unix was never profitable... witch is laughable. I mean god, this guy *uses* windows, and he donsn't even know it still has a (somewhat usefull) CLI!!
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Chad Okere
There is no MS office compition, that's why it's not bundled :)
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Chad Okere
Um... there are a large number of WWW or FTP servers that run on windows 95/98 including apache, 98's even less stable then NT, but there good for personal use
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Chad Okere
no one ever thought the world was flat. if it was flat how could it be the center of the universe?
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Chad Okere
I think the general point is that there isn't an *exsess* of heat....
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it's ironic that you'd mention Phlogiston.
Phlogiston was the basis of chemistry for a long time, and a lot of people believed it true.
in fact there was a lot of resistance to the idea that it didn't exist.
all true scientific breakthroughs have been fought against (non geocentric universe, relativity)
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yeh, obviously it's just burning, that's where the excess He4 comes from... oh wait
I think it's a little ridiculous to dissmiss this out of hand
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Chad Okere
wow, I didn't know He4 was a byproduct of burring platnum!
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Chad Okere
Wow! it's just like SPAM, and that dosn't piss people off at all!!
if you want to change someones oppinion, yelling at them is not the way to do it. just beacuse you feel somthing is wrong dosn't mean it really is. you relize that don't yo?
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Um, we *do* have a lot black people running around calling themselves niggers, don't you listen to hip-hop?
anyway, it dosn't matter.. there can be more than one meaning, and *Certanly* more than one connotation to a word
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Chad Okere
Like otaku!
(sorry, this was are really pointless post..)
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I personally think this whole thing is overrated. *Words can have more than one meaning,* people.
When I think of a "hacker" without context I think of someone who breaks into computer systems, and the fact is, most "non-nerd" people understand it that way only. When I hear someone call Linus Torvlads a "hacker" I know they mean someone who likes to code (for lack of a better short description).
When I think of "Cracker" I think of a hacker in the first sense, but one who destroys data, and generally malicious. They may be a good programmer, or they may just use netbus. They are not necessarily a Hacker (although they probably call themselves one)
You are never going to be able to change the way that the word is use, and more than that, I don't think it *should* be changed. A hacker is someone who loves computers, and likes to explore them. The general public probably only knows about the small subset of hackers who are interested in computer security (usually getting past it). I don't think of it as a pejorative at all.
Also, I don't think that we should be forced to change the word used to describe us. "Coder" works well, as does "nerd." We are hackers, however, and we shouldn't have to change that. The best thing I can think that we can do to try and change the *connotation* of that word is to *use* it. Use it a lot, when you're writing on slashdot, or if you have a chance to give a quote for the mass media (if you're a public figure). Let the world know
With things like Linux in the spotlight, it's our chance to let the general public know about the other meanings of the word. We are never going to get the mass media to stop calling computer crackers "hackers" (and there *not* wrong IMHO). If we can get the media to call us hackers to, then our meaning will get out as well.
Ideally we'd want to see something like this in time magazine: "Linux, an open source operating system created by hackers (not the same kind of hackers who break into computer systems). Has finally beaten Microsoft windows on the...."
All we have to do is educate people. But there not going to change the words that they already know...
Btw, another problem with trying to get the word "crackers" used is because they call themselves hackers. I think we should call malicious hackers "Dark Hackers." I think it's a cool enough sounding term to be used, and it resolves the conflict. What do you think?
Wow, that was a long post : )
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Chad Okere
I think what the guy had in mind was calling someone "gay" or more particularly "queer" to denote homosexuality could have good or bad connotations. They could be an insult, or just an observation.
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Chad Okere
Heh, acutaly 3dfx drivers suck on windows to. they *Still* don't have a full working ICD, and there users are having tons of trouble getting the q3a test to work. to top it off. They've been trying to get people to write games in glide, by making terrible OGL and even d3d drivers, and now its backfiring.
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Chad Okere
Hrm... wasn't half life based on he quake1 engen?
wait I already know the answer to that... it was!
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Chad Okere