Actually, the worlds overpopulations problems *aren't* in the industrialized nations where these medical advances are taking place. There was a good article in wired talking about how the predictions of mass world starvation by 1970 were off (gee, really?), today we are producing more food then was ever possible, with even less farmers.
That fact brings up an interesting point about 'technology for societies sake', what about all the advances in agricultural science in the world? Without those advances the world would be starving, but they were made, and the world, in general, is not starving (save a few paces where political, not economic difficulties prevent food from reaching the mouths of the hungry)
Anyway, As more of the third world reaches our 'dangerously high' levels of technology, there birthrates will go down not up. A lot of Japan's economic trouble right now is caused by birthrates that are two low, not to high.
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I belive he was just refering to the way the computer saw the disk, in otherwords, you didn't really need any new drivers to get them to work. I've managed to get a frends computer up and running, reading CDs with an old ATAPI CD-rom driver, eventhough it was a DVD-rom drive. I'm not sure if older drivers would beable to handle the larger storage aria -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
AOL uses it's own proprietary communications protocol, Based on it's proprietary network. (I guess, I can't see any other reason for them to do this). That's why you have things like 'aol network interface' under windows, to allow you to connect to the net without using WAOL.
I heard that AOL was going to switch there interface at some point in the future, but until then, don't expect to be able to get on the net. Even if you can get the AOL shell up (witch requires IE4, I believe), you still won't be able to get the rest of the box connected to the net, unless there's a linux driver out.
You should really try to get your parents to drop AOL....
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Apple says a lot of things, in this case its "G4's are twice as fast as pentiumIIIs*" if you follow the astrick, it leads you to the statement "in 'cpu mesurement' and Photoshop tests". I'm not sure, but I'd be willing to bet that photoshop is optimized for the Mac harder then the PC (though I could be wrong). In any event, they didn't mention what photoshop tests were done, some have usualy done better on x86 with mmx.
as for 'CPU mesurement', well that dosn't really help. What I was asking for was acutal SPECint and SPECfp for the CPUs, and real numbers not someone say 'up to twice as much' or other meaningless nonsense. -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
If you are seriously trying to add something to the discussion, there are a few things that you can do to avoid being called a troll.
1)The most important thing is that you use capital letters. Obviously not All caps obviously, but using at least a few capital letters, particularly at the beginning of your sentences really helps readability. You'd be surpized how much more rational you sound using them.
2)Use conventional spelling. instead of 'n e wayz' write 'anyway'. You don't need to spell everything correctly, but try to stick with conventional norms.
3)Avoid swearwords, unless you really need to empathize a point. interspersing every couple words with a 'fuck' or a 'shit' really just makes you look stupid
4)Actually have something to say. Even if you break all the above rules, You still have a chance to be listened to if you actually do have something to add. If you don't, well then, it doesn't really matter what happens to your post, because no one looses out by not reading it. -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
The fastest G4 you can get currently is a 450Mhz, and I have a hard time believing that the g4 is does twice as much per cycle then an Athlon Especially since it's a 'RISC'. The original Idea behind RISC is to do less per instruction, and run many more cycles per second. (The benchmarks apple touts on TV comparing a g4 to a pIII are done with a faster clocked g4).
For a long time, Apple had Intel beat in MHz game, but they don't anymore. I'm not saying that an 900Mhz Athlon is necessarily faster then a 450Mhz G4, but I'll believe it until someone can point me to some real, hard numbers that prove otherwise. -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Well, the good news for AMD is that this is just an Overclocked 733 (although, I can hardware junkies trying out the 153mhz bus speed on some 'overclocker' boards like the bx6-2), so right now AMD still has the fastest chip. Of course, if the yields are high enough over at Intel, they could hit 1Ghz quicker then AMD.
I personally hope that AMD can keep ahead of Intel; their competition has dramatically lowered the cost of PCs in the past few years. When I purchased my p75, it cost me $1500, and that was about as far down the line as you could get in terms of CPUs (The chips out were the 75, 90, 100, and 120 (little did I know at the time that my little 75 could be overclocked to 133). This Saturday I saw an Athilon 600 system for the same price (made by IBM no less). Cheap PCs are good for everyone:)
Of course there are probably other reasons as well, such as the emergence of the PC as an 'internet appliance' But if it weren't for AMD, they'd all be using Pentium 200s, instead of celeron 466's (witch by the way, was selling for about $500 in a Compaq that day.) -- "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
By the way - a 27 on the ACT is nothing to be proud of
I said that I got a 28 on the ACT, not a 27. I guess 'reading' is below you oh great mighty one.
I suppose I mistakenly assumed that you were a sane person, as opposed to someone who would brazenly insult everyone in the Midwest as being idiots and taking the ACT, standardized test of heathens and barbarians, as well as all but the smartest 6% of the population (actually, much smaller, as I'm in the 93 percentile of all graduating seniors in 1999).
But I guess I was wrong. I find it amazing that you would take this opinion. But then, statistically I'm likely to me much smarter then you, and I'm constantly amazed by the absolute idiocy of some people.
ISU is accredited, and therefore a 'real' school. Its academic standards are extremely high, and it's ranked as one of the top 100 schools in the country. I noticed you didn't mention where you attended school.
As I stated at the end of my post, I chose not to run it though a spell checker as I usually do with longer posts (and I knew that I was spelling college. I guess the humor was lost on you. Not surprising, however. )
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I don't know what's scarier, the fact that you can't spell "dollars" and don't know the distiction between "your" and "you're" (or even moderately proper sentence structure, for that matter), or the fact that you actually made it into some "college" yet can't manage to spell that either.
Actualy, I can tell the diffrence between 'you're'(a contraction of you and are) and 'your'(possesive form of you). But I aperantly wasn't paying much attention to what I was writing. The same thing with the word "dollars". "Collage" is actualy a hard word to spell. I don't relize if you know this or not, but for some people spelling is an extremly difficult thing to do. As far as 'academic standards' goes, acording to my ACT score, I my score was in the top 7% of all entering freshman, so I'd guess you'd rather live in a contry where collage attendance is only 6% of what it is currently. (FYI, I got a 28).
I'm currently attending Iowa State Univercty, and I was able to test out of the first C++ class without ever having taken a formal computer programing class in my life.
I'm not aware if you know this or not, but most collages let you run your documents through a spellchecker (and let you correct grammar) before you turn in in. But of course, if you took that into consideration, you wouldn't ahve been able to be a Jackass AC, would you?
btw, I normaly spellcheck/look over longer slashdot posts of mine, but not this one. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
A 1 word opinion espousing a vague concept which does not have an immediate relationship with the subject at hand. Is, IMHO, offtopic. Apparently this was the moderator's humble opinion as well.
The Illiminati were refrenced in the artical, next time, read before you post. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Right now the Athlon can kick the pIII's ass, but this happens with every x86 generation. AMD puts out n+1 x86, where n is the current intel generation, but intel comes back a few months later with somthing better, the k5 was far better then a 486, but pales to a pentium. a k6 is better then a pentium, but dosn't really hold up to a pII/PIII. the Athlon beats the pants off a p6, but...
But the problem for intel is, AMD is currently at the top of the heap performance wise (even for servers, where intel's cash cow xenon's reside). So for people who care about speed and nothing else Athlon is the only choice. AMD can charge whatever they want on the chip, and for once have a good quarter. Intel on the other hand looses money. Intel isn't worried about dying, but they are worried about loosing money in the iterem.. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Actualy, wattage is a direct mesure of the heat produced in any non-mechanical device. With an athlon, you'd need to remove 60 wats of heat, or 60 jouls of energy per second. The in order to figure the change in temprature you'd need to know the size of the case, how much ventilation there is, etc. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Now, i know that some moron out there is gonna say, "Who would be so stupid as to move THAT much music at once?" It would probably be the same moron that spent all that time DOWNLOADING it from the internet. Some dumb rich kid with a fast internet connection.. there are PLENTY of them out there.
Um, Cable modems only cost a few dolars more then modem connections, I'd hardly say that makes someone "rich", if they were rich, they would just have tons of CDs. Having shitloads of MP3s pretty much means that you're not rich.
but, I guess you just felt the need to rationalize you're lack of bandwith. Btw, I'm in a colage dorm with ethernet (1,236k/sec is the fastest I've seen). I'm not rich "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
A memory buffer is solid state, and should beable to withstand any resonable jossle, basicaly anything that wouldn't crack the circut board "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Oh, come off it. You expected me to counter psycho-babble with more babble? Puhleeze.
Well, yes, or at least a well reasoned responce. it is possible to not post at all, you know. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
We're pretty sure it's a girl, so 2 is true, and one is false. Don't know about 3 or 4 though "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
You know, That hacker slang, at least on the surface would be a good way to keep info fromechelon... but when you think about it wouldn't be hard for the NSA to pickup on stuff like that as well.
That's why I think that h4x0rz 5l4n9 is really an NSA plant, no "real" hacker would use terminology like that, so the NSA, after relizeing that it's servers couldn't keep up with all the 5kr1p7 k11d1s convinced them to start using a 'creative' spelling of target, therby saving them thousands of CPU cycles examining skript kiddie conversation! "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
If there was ever any doubt in my mind that people like you should run the world, it was just eleveated! thank you! "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I havn't read the artical yet, but a "Christian action game" That sounds pretty damn dull... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Analysts said the launch of the new processors is important because it allows Intel to again say that it has the fastest PC chips.
Um... No it does not, It mearly means that intel Chips can at least run as fast as AMDs The program speed will still be less however, since Athlons are still faster clock/clock then p6 cores.
I'd be willing to bet that these 'analysts' actualy work for intel, Its sad that wired news would print things like that as fact. It really makes you wonder... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
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Actually, the worlds overpopulations problems *aren't* in the industrialized nations where these medical advances are taking place. There was a good article in wired talking about how the predictions of mass world starvation by 1970 were off (gee, really?), today we are producing more food then was ever possible, with even less farmers.
That fact brings up an interesting point about 'technology for societies sake', what about all the advances in agricultural science in the world? Without those advances the world would be starving, but they were made, and the world, in general, is not starving (save a few paces where political, not economic difficulties prevent food from reaching the mouths of the hungry)
Anyway, As more of the third world reaches our 'dangerously high' levels of technology, there birthrates will go down not up. A lot of Japan's economic trouble right now is caused by birthrates that are two low, not to high.
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I belive he was just refering to the way the computer saw the disk, in otherwords, you didn't really need any new drivers to get them to work. I've managed to get a frends computer up and running, reading CDs with an old ATAPI CD-rom driver, eventhough it was a DVD-rom drive. I'm not sure if older drivers would beable to handle the larger storage aria
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AOL uses it's own proprietary communications protocol, Based on it's proprietary network. (I guess, I can't see any other reason for them to do this). That's why you have things like 'aol network interface' under windows, to allow you to connect to the net without using WAOL.
I heard that AOL was going to switch there interface at some point in the future, but until then, don't expect to be able to get on the net. Even if you can get the AOL shell up (witch requires IE4, I believe), you still won't be able to get the rest of the box connected to the net, unless there's a linux driver out.
You should really try to get your parents to drop AOL....
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I was thinking of chaning it, but you've convinced me to keep it. :)
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Apple says a lot of things, in this case its "G4's are twice as fast as pentiumIIIs*" if you follow the astrick, it leads you to the statement "in 'cpu mesurement' and Photoshop tests". I'm not sure, but I'd be willing to bet that photoshop is optimized for the Mac harder then the PC (though I could be wrong). In any event, they didn't mention what photoshop tests were done, some have usualy done better on x86 with mmx.
as for 'CPU mesurement', well that dosn't really help. What I was asking for was acutal SPECint and SPECfp for the CPUs, and real numbers not someone say 'up to twice as much' or other meaningless nonsense.
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"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
If you are seriously trying to add something to the discussion, there are a few things that you can do to avoid being called a troll.
1)The most important thing is that you use capital letters. Obviously not All caps obviously, but using at least a few capital letters, particularly at the beginning of your sentences really helps readability. You'd be surpized how much more rational you sound using them.
2)Use conventional spelling. instead of 'n e wayz' write 'anyway'. You don't need to spell everything correctly, but try to stick with conventional norms.
3)Avoid swearwords, unless you really need to empathize a point. interspersing every couple words with a 'fuck' or a 'shit' really just makes you look stupid
4)Actually have something to say. Even if you break all the above rules, You still have a chance to be listened to if you actually do have something to add. If you don't, well then, it doesn't really matter what happens to your post, because no one looses out by not reading it.
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The fastest G4 you can get currently is a 450Mhz, and I have a hard time believing that the g4 is does twice as much per cycle then an Athlon Especially since it's a 'RISC'. The original Idea behind RISC is to do less per instruction, and run many more cycles per second. (The benchmarks apple touts on TV comparing a g4 to a pIII are done with a faster clocked g4).
For a long time, Apple had Intel beat in MHz game, but they don't anymore. I'm not saying that an 900Mhz Athlon is necessarily faster then a 450Mhz G4, but I'll believe it until someone can point me to some real, hard numbers that prove otherwise.
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Well, the good news for AMD is that this is just an Overclocked 733 (although, I can hardware junkies trying out the 153mhz bus speed on some 'overclocker' boards like the bx6-2), so right now AMD still has the fastest chip. Of course, if the yields are high enough over at Intel, they could hit 1Ghz quicker then AMD.
:)
I personally hope that AMD can keep ahead of Intel; their competition has dramatically lowered the cost of PCs in the past few years. When I purchased my p75, it cost me $1500, and that was about as far down the line as you could get in terms of CPUs (The chips out were the 75, 90, 100, and 120 (little did I know at the time that my little 75 could be overclocked to 133). This Saturday I saw an Athilon 600 system for the same price (made by IBM no less). Cheap PCs are good for everyone
Of course there are probably other reasons as well, such as the emergence of the PC as an 'internet appliance' But if it weren't for AMD, they'd all be using Pentium 200s, instead of celeron 466's (witch by the way, was selling for about $500 in a Compaq that day.)
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The chips that Intel sends out to reviewers arn't locked, I belive. So they can be tested to full speed.
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By the way - a 27 on the ACT is nothing to be proud of
I said that I got a 28 on the ACT, not a 27. I guess 'reading' is below you oh great mighty one.
I suppose I mistakenly assumed that you were a sane person, as opposed to someone who would brazenly insult everyone in the Midwest as being idiots and taking the ACT, standardized test of heathens and barbarians, as well as all but the smartest 6% of the population (actually, much smaller, as I'm in the 93 percentile of all graduating seniors in 1999).
But I guess I was wrong. I find it amazing that you would take this opinion. But then, statistically I'm likely to me much smarter then you, and I'm constantly amazed by the absolute idiocy of some people.
ISU is accredited, and therefore a 'real' school. Its academic standards are extremely high, and it's ranked as one of the top 100 schools in the country. I noticed you didn't mention where you attended school.
As I stated at the end of my post, I chose not to run it though a spell checker as I usually do with longer posts (and I knew that I was spelling college. I guess the humor was lost on you. Not surprising, however. )
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I don't know what's scarier, the fact that you can't spell "dollars" and don't know the distiction between "your" and "you're" (or even moderately proper sentence structure, for that matter), or the fact that you actually made it into some "college" yet can't manage to spell that either.
Actualy, I can tell the diffrence between 'you're'(a contraction of you and are) and 'your'(possesive form of you). But I aperantly wasn't paying much attention to what I was writing. The same thing with the word "dollars". "Collage" is actualy a hard word to spell. I don't relize if you know this or not, but for some people spelling is an extremly difficult thing to do. As far as 'academic standards' goes, acording to my ACT score, I my score was in the top 7% of all entering freshman, so I'd guess you'd rather live in a contry where collage attendance is only 6% of what it is currently. (FYI, I got a 28).
I'm currently attending Iowa State Univercty, and I was able to test out of the first C++ class without ever having taken a formal computer programing class in my life.
I'm not aware if you know this or not, but most collages let you run your documents through a spellchecker (and let you correct grammar) before you turn in in. But of course, if you took that into consideration, you wouldn't ahve been able to be a Jackass AC, would you?
btw, I normaly spellcheck/look over longer slashdot posts of mine, but not this one.
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A 1 word opinion espousing a vague concept which does not have an immediate relationship with the subject at hand. Is, IMHO, offtopic. Apparently this was the moderator's humble opinion as well.
The Illiminati were refrenced in the artical, next time, read before you post.
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Right now the Athlon can kick the pIII's ass, but this happens with every x86 generation. AMD puts out n+1 x86, where n is the current intel generation, but intel comes back a few months later with somthing better, the k5 was far better then a 486, but pales to a pentium. a k6 is better then a pentium, but dosn't really hold up to a pII/PIII. the Athlon beats the pants off a p6, but...
But the problem for intel is, AMD is currently at the top of the heap performance wise (even for servers, where intel's cash cow xenon's reside). So for people who care about speed and nothing else Athlon is the only choice. AMD can charge whatever they want on the chip, and for once have a good quarter. Intel on the other hand looses money. Intel isn't worried about dying, but they are worried about loosing money in the iterem..
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But as long as the Xenon's subsidize cheap celerons, I'm happy : )
Athlons are also very exspensive anyway, moreso then a PIII, I think
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Actualy, wattage is a direct mesure of the heat produced in any non-mechanical device. With an athlon, you'd need to remove 60 wats of heat, or 60 jouls of energy per second. The in order to figure the change in temprature you'd need to know the size of the case, how much ventilation there is, etc.
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Now, i know that some moron out there is gonna say, "Who would be so stupid as to move THAT much music at once?" It would probably be the same moron that spent all that time DOWNLOADING it from the internet. Some dumb rich kid with a fast internet connection.. there are PLENTY of them out there.
Um, Cable modems only cost a few dolars more then modem connections, I'd hardly say that makes someone "rich", if they were rich, they would just have tons of CDs. Having shitloads of MP3s pretty much means that you're not rich.
but, I guess you just felt the need to rationalize you're lack of bandwith. Btw, I'm in a colage dorm with ethernet (1,236k/sec is the fastest I've seen). I'm not rich
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Yes, it was cracked. Microsoft claimed that it unsampled, but, as usual they were lying. The program brute forced MS's exsport frendly encription.
I belive the program can be found at dimention music
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A memory buffer is solid state, and should beable to withstand any resonable jossle, basicaly anything that wouldn't crack the circut board
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Oh, come off it. You expected me to counter psycho-babble with more babble? Puhleeze.
Well, yes, or at least a well reasoned responce. it is possible to not post at all, you know.
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I wouldn't call that 'cracking'. Thats taking advantage ofbad coding/admining.
Um... then what would you call cracking??
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We're pretty sure it's a girl, so 2 is true, and one is false. Don't know about 3 or 4 though
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You know, That hacker slang, at least on the surface would be a good way to keep info fromechelon... but when you think about it wouldn't be hard for the NSA to pickup on stuff like that as well.
That's why I think that h4x0rz 5l4n9 is really an NSA plant, no "real" hacker would use terminology like that, so the NSA, after relizeing that it's servers couldn't keep up with all the 5kr1p7 k11d1s convinced them to start using a 'creative' spelling of target, therby saving them thousands of CPU cycles examining skript kiddie conversation!
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What a well articulated rebuttal!
If there was ever any doubt in my mind that people like you should run the world, it was just eleveated! thank you!
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I havn't read the artical yet, but a "Christian action game" That sounds pretty damn dull...
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Analysts said the launch of the new processors is important because it allows Intel to again say that it has the fastest PC chips.
Um... No it does not, It mearly means that intel Chips can at least run as fast as AMDs The program speed will still be less however, since Athlons are still faster clock/clock then p6 cores.
I'd be willing to bet that these 'analysts' actualy work for intel, Its sad that wired news would print things like that as fact. It really makes you wonder...
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