Ahem... Ever been to Europe? You know, that little place across the Atlantic... Hey, I don't know where you got those stupid ideas about Europe and liberty (or lack of). I've NEVER heard of such things, and so far I've lived in 4 different European countries (France, Switzerland, Italy and Finland) without encountering any of the things you dared typing. Hey, make some money and buy yourself a 3 months trip to Europe, North to South, it'll do you good.
I couldn't figure out what he was talking about ether, but then I rememberd somthing about the Church of sciantology being blocked in germany. As for the 'what time they put there kids to bed' I still don't understand what he's talking about.
I have been to the US of A several times, and found out the level of liberty out there is really lower than what I'm living here in evil Europe. Here, we can (and do) say things aloud without the fear of a money-driven lawsuit and basically do whatever we want as long as we don't harm anybody.
Maybe you should compare british and american libel laws. In america, you have to prove as fact that the person *knew* that what they were saying was false. Its very difficult to *prove* what was in a person's head, so libel laws in the US are very hard to win.
I don't know about other europian contrys, but the I know that the UK's laws regarding this type of thing are a lot stricter "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
. My point is that mass murder and Naziism correlate 100%, while mass murder and socialism correlate very poorly. Some capitalist countries (quite a few, actually damnit, there's only one 'I' in Nazism !!!!!!!!! "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Yes, forcing Raymond to surrender his property against his will for policies he does not support is by nature evil. It shows a complete lack of interest in the inherent rights of man.
Inherent how can a right be inherent are you some kind of religious freak or somthing? Rights are a construct of man, a consept. and they are not inherent to anything. rights were created by those who did not have them, to defend themselves, and others from tyrany. Giving, 10%, 20%, or even 70% of you're welth is not tyrany. it may not be the best thing, but is not tyrany.
Actually, Socialism has killed vastly more than 10.5 million. The entire ideology of socialism leads to both a loss of basic moral tenets and the loss of the sanctity of life. Millions ceased to exist because of the insane logic of idealistic revolutionaries.
Socialism never killed anyone. Stalin killed millions of people, pol-pot killed millions of people. but socialism was for them a tool, like Nazism (one 'I', btw) was a tool for hitler. a tool to gain power. Those men were evil, but the ideas were not. (The nazis were one of the most anti-commie people out there)
While Ideas can be evil, these are not. they may be bad ideas, or difficult to attain, but to say that they are evil is ludicrist. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
All I seem to get from this article is a long-winded diatrabe trying to say that ESR is a commie-pinko bastard.
that's beacuse you're a moron.
if you had half a brain, you would see that it's saying that he's *not* a commie-pinko bastard. but since you don't... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Brothers, let us join arms in The struggle for more free time, and less work! If we join together we can create a utopia on earth! Truely, Our struggle will give us...
oh, screw it. I'm going to sleep "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Its similar, but the keyboard Control pannel is diffrent. Click the 'language' tab, and then click add. Add some other form of 'english' (such as english british, you can't use English US twice). Then click on the propertys button and change the layout.
you can configure win9x to switch on the fly with the left-alt+shift or control+sift if you want "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I assume you ment '' you get those by typing in < and >. I won't tell you how to get the '&' character though:) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ug, why on earth would you want to use the UNIX 'visual editor'? I mean, if you can train yourself out of QWERTY, I'm sure you could lean another text editor... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Also, it's very hard to switch back and forth, so you'd have to carry a Dvorak keyboard around (or a few of them in USB, ADB and PS/2 versions if you use different platforms) in order to work at different locations.
well I'm not sure about linux, but in windows adding Dovrak support to the box took me about 2minutes. Now I can switch with alt+shift. Now that it's configured I might try to learn it (I've also got it setup to enter chinese and japanese text as well)
Most OSs probably have support built in, and all you have to do is turn it on, so you probably wouldn't need to carry around a keyboard with you "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the win32 API a key part of the internal architecture?
OK, I'll correct you, the win32 api is *not* a key part of the internal acitecture of NT, although it is in 95/98. don't forget the win32 API also has a linux implementation, WINE. does this make it a version of windows? "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I was thinking about that as well, but the main point I was trying to make was that there is no real diffrence between a babie a few weeks away from being born, and one that's outside the womb.
I really wish people would at least be consistant with this, ether it's OK to kill babies, or its not. this "this is the way we do it now, so it must be ok" stuff is completly bogus. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Why publications let articles in, writen by people that have NO CLUE what they are talking about!?
Probably beacuse his editors don't have a clue ether. He probably knows more then the people he's for. It's sad but true, One of the things that bugs me more then anything else is when people act like they understand somthing when they really don't. I always to point out things I'm not sure about when I write (though, I'm sure I miss somethings) "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
From the very little bit I've read about this man, he sounds like a thouroughly evil little shit to me.
wow, you probably didn't even bother to read the linked artical. he was talking about parents making the disision to end there babies lives.
What's "absolutely necessary"? Who's going to decide that? The all-loving, all-powerful Big Brother? What would Mr Singer do to those who (Horrors!) actually feel entitled to the fruits of their own labor?
Maybe you would make that desision yourself, you don't know. beacuse you never botherd to learn "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
u forget that it's an old idea. The last to try it plunged the world into a long and bloody war. Yes, such ideas are what made Hitler and his minions famous. This professor should be resigned from his position, such suggestions and ideas are highly dangerous.
god forbid a man with ideas that you find dangerous have a job, one where he might get to pass those ideas on.
Clearly somthing must be done to stop all this "thinking" thats going on. Its so wrong! maybe we can gather them all up and put them in camps, and kill them! yes! rid the world of all these "dangerous ideas".
Just beacuse you disagree with someone, dosn't mean that there wrong, and you're right. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Morally, I find that before birth, the fetus is a portion of the mother's body, totally reliant on her. Once birth is completed, you have a self-contained being. This is why in many religions there are death rites for dead babies, but very few ceremonies for miscarriages.
wow, I'm glad that you've managed to convince you'reself that it's ok. I see you've convinently ignored the fact that most babies could survive ouside the womb in the third trimester..
The babies *arn't* dependent (after a certan point) on the mother, they just happen to be in there. is OK for a mother to abort a babie 3 days befor the due date? "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Thank you for providing so many spesific examples of where we were wrong, and for backing you're arguments up with fact so well "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Let's not forget either that Microsoft claims it's based on entirely new technology (NT) while their actual "Next-generation" kernel is based on a modified version of the BSD kernel.
what the hell are you talking about? there's no BSD in NTs kernel. Maybe there's TCP stack, but I doubt it. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I'm pretty sure that the PCweek test that were done were the 'mindcraft III' tests, that we preformed with people from Red hat and other Linux companys onsite. Linux was tuned, and showed a pretty big performance improvment over the first, mistuned test "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Windows NT and windows 98/95 are about as different as two OSs can get, at least in there internal workings. The reason that they can both run the same software is that the win32 API has been ported to both. The first version of Windows NT was marketed as 3.5 (I think), using the same versioning numbers as windows 3.1. Windows 95/98 was also a completely new operating system in many respects, although it did share quite a bit of code with windows 3.1 and it's brethren. Officially labeled 4.0, it could be said that is the latest version of DOS (as it runs dos code well, unlike NT)
It's the same situation with Linux and other unixes; Linux was completely rewritten, from the ground up, and has been changing evolutionarily since then. In contrast, the *BSDs are merely an evolution from the original Unix of 30 years ago.
Nether Unix, Linux, Or windows NT could really be called '30 year old technology' as they have all been gradually changing over time. In terms of 'modern ness' each is only a few years old. They only 'look' the same to applications. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Well, I don't know about WINE, but what you could maybe do is just get a cheap PC with an ethernet card, install linux and SAMBA and then run AWK over local telnet.
That would probably let you do whatever you wanted, since all you need for AWK is text mode, right? "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
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Ahem... Ever been to Europe? You know, that little place across the Atlantic... Hey, I don't know where you got those stupid ideas about Europe and liberty (or lack of). I've NEVER heard of such things, and so far I've lived in 4 different European countries (France, Switzerland, Italy and Finland) without encountering any of the things you dared typing. Hey, make some money and buy yourself a 3 months trip to Europe, North to South, it'll do you good.
I couldn't figure out what he was talking about ether, but then I rememberd somthing about the Church of sciantology being blocked in germany. As for the 'what time they put there kids to bed' I still don't understand what he's talking about.
I have been to the US of A several times, and found out the level of liberty out there is really lower than what I'm living here in evil Europe. Here, we can (and do) say things aloud without the fear of a money-driven lawsuit and basically do whatever we want as long as we don't harm anybody.
Maybe you should compare british and american libel laws. In america, you have to prove as fact that the person *knew* that what they were saying was false. Its very difficult to *prove* what was in a person's head, so libel laws in the US are very hard to win.
I don't know about other europian contrys, but the I know that the UK's laws regarding this type of thing are a lot stricter
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
. My point is that mass murder and Naziism correlate 100%, while mass murder and socialism correlate very poorly. Some capitalist countries (quite a few, actually
damnit, there's only one 'I' in Nazism !!!!!!!!!
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Yes, forcing Raymond to surrender his property against his will for policies he does not support is by nature evil. It shows a complete lack of interest in the inherent rights of man.
Inherent how can a right be inherent are you some kind of religious freak or somthing? Rights are a construct of man, a consept. and they are not inherent to anything. rights were created by those who did not have them, to defend themselves, and others from tyrany. Giving, 10%, 20%, or even 70% of you're welth is not tyrany. it may not be the best thing, but is not tyrany.
Actually, Socialism has killed vastly more than 10.5 million. The entire ideology of socialism leads to both a loss of basic moral tenets and the loss of the sanctity of life. Millions ceased to exist because of the insane logic of idealistic revolutionaries.
Socialism never killed anyone. Stalin killed millions of people, pol-pot killed millions of people. but socialism was for them a tool, like Nazism (one 'I', btw) was a tool for hitler. a tool to gain power. Those men were evil, but the ideas were not. (The nazis were one of the most anti-commie people out there)
While Ideas can be evil, these are not. they may be bad ideas, or difficult to attain, but to say that they are evil is ludicrist.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
WhoTF is 'LBT'??
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
All I seem to get from this article is a long-winded diatrabe trying to say that ESR is a commie-pinko bastard.
that's beacuse you're a moron.
if you had half a brain, you would see that it's saying that he's *not* a commie-pinko bastard. but since you don't...
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Uh, this guy wasn't moderated up, his posts default to 2, as can be clearly seen in his User Info.
plese don't complain about a system you don't understand
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Brothers, let us join arms in The struggle for more free time, and less work! If we join together we can create a utopia on earth! Truely, Our struggle will give us...
oh, screw it. I'm going to sleep
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Its similar, but the keyboard Control pannel is diffrent. Click the 'language' tab, and then click add. Add some other form of 'english' (such as english british, you can't use English US twice). Then click on the propertys button and change the layout.
you can configure win9x to switch on the fly with the left-alt+shift or control+sift if you want
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I assume you ment '' you get those by typing in < and >. I won't tell you how to get the '&' character though :)
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I think he was talking about using commands in vi, not starting it
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ug, why on earth would you want to use the UNIX 'visual editor'? I mean, if you can train yourself out of QWERTY, I'm sure you could lean another text editor...
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Also, it's very hard to switch back and forth, so you'd have to carry a Dvorak keyboard around (or a few of them in USB, ADB and PS/2 versions if you use different platforms) in order to work at different locations.
well I'm not sure about linux, but in windows adding Dovrak support to the box took me about 2minutes. Now I can switch with alt+shift. Now that it's configured I might try to learn it (I've also got it setup to enter chinese and japanese text as well)
Most OSs probably have support built in, and all you have to do is turn it on, so you probably wouldn't need to carry around a keyboard with you
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the win32 API a key part of the internal architecture?
OK, I'll correct you, the win32 api is *not* a key part of the internal acitecture of NT, although it is in 95/98. don't forget the win32 API also has a linux implementation, WINE. does this make it a version of windows?
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I was thinking about that as well, but the main point I was trying to make was that there is no real diffrence between a babie a few weeks away from being born, and one that's outside the womb.
I really wish people would at least be consistant with this, ether it's OK to kill babies, or its not. this "this is the way we do it now, so it must be ok" stuff is completly bogus.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Why publications let articles in, writen by people that have NO CLUE what they are talking about!?
Probably beacuse his editors don't have a clue ether. He probably knows more then the people he's for. It's sad but true, One of the things that bugs me more then anything else is when people act like they understand somthing when they really don't. I always to point out things I'm not sure about when I write (though, I'm sure I miss somethings)
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
From the very little bit I've read about this man, he sounds like a thouroughly evil little shit to me.
wow, you probably didn't even bother to read the linked artical. he was talking about parents making the disision to end there babies lives.
What's "absolutely necessary"? Who's going to decide that? The all-loving, all-powerful Big Brother? What would Mr Singer do to those who (Horrors!) actually feel entitled to the fruits of their own labor?
Maybe you would make that desision yourself, you don't know. beacuse you never botherd to learn
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
u forget that it's an old idea. The last to try it plunged the world into a long and bloody war. Yes, such ideas are what made Hitler and his minions famous. This professor should be resigned from his position, such suggestions and ideas are highly dangerous.
god forbid a man with ideas that you find dangerous have a job, one where he might get to pass those ideas on.
Clearly somthing must be done to stop all this "thinking" thats going on. Its so wrong! maybe we can gather them all up and put them in camps, and kill them! yes! rid the world of all these "dangerous ideas".
Just beacuse you disagree with someone, dosn't mean that there wrong, and you're right.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Morally, I find that before birth, the fetus is a portion of the mother's body, totally reliant on her. Once birth is completed, you have a self-contained being. This is why in many religions there are death rites for dead babies, but very few ceremonies for miscarriages.
wow, I'm glad that you've managed to convince you'reself that it's ok. I see you've convinently ignored the fact that most babies could survive ouside the womb in the third trimester..
The babies *arn't* dependent (after a certan point) on the mother, they just happen to be in there. is OK for a mother to abort a babie 3 days befor the due date?
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Thank you for providing so many spesific examples of where we were wrong, and for backing you're arguments up with fact so well
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Let's not forget either that Microsoft claims it's based on entirely new technology (NT) while their actual "Next-generation" kernel is based on a modified version of the BSD kernel.
what the hell are you talking about? there's no BSD in NTs kernel. Maybe there's TCP stack, but I doubt it.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
microsofts, or red hats?
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I'm pretty sure that the PCweek test that were done were the 'mindcraft III' tests, that we preformed with people from Red hat and other Linux companys onsite. Linux was tuned, and showed a pretty big performance improvment over the first, mistuned test
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I didn't get my own computer untill the summer of 1995.... I was deprived :(
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Windows NT and windows 98/95 are about as different as two OSs can get, at least in there internal workings. The reason that they can both run the same software is that the win32 API has been ported to both. The first version of Windows NT was marketed as 3.5 (I think), using the same versioning numbers as windows 3.1. Windows 95/98 was also a completely new operating system in many respects, although it did share quite a bit of code with windows 3.1 and it's brethren. Officially labeled 4.0, it could be said that is the latest version of DOS (as it runs dos code well, unlike NT)
It's the same situation with Linux and other unixes; Linux was completely rewritten, from the ground up, and has been changing evolutionarily since then. In contrast, the *BSDs are merely an evolution from the original Unix of 30 years ago.
Nether Unix, Linux, Or windows NT could really be called '30 year old technology' as they have all been gradually changing over time. In terms of 'modern ness' each is only a few years old. They only 'look' the same to applications.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Well, I don't know about WINE, but what you could maybe do is just get a cheap PC with an ethernet card, install linux and SAMBA and then run AWK over local telnet.
That would probably let you do whatever you wanted, since all you need for AWK is text mode, right?
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"