They can then make money off the game by two ways: First of all, they can sell it to the general public, who just wants a game to play and doesn't care about the code, and secondly, they can license the code to other developers for a fee that includes support and development tools that id uses in-house for their own production.
Well, the way things are now, Id provides almost no support whatsoever for there product. If Id opensourced there engen, people would get for free what now costs them $700,000. support would be a large burden on a company of less then 20. while I'm sure it would be posible for them to make some money with open source, I doubt it would be as much. remember, Id is basicaly selling source, not support (in addition to games). Going opensource would cause them to lose at least half there revinue stream. Other companys would also be able to sell support, why would they want to give themselves compition?
While Id opening there source would be good for you it might not be the best thing for Id. and since there writing the code, they can do whatever they want to with it. If you have a problem with it, then don't buy the game "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I don't see why, the laws governing planitary motion are based on gravity. since it is in a non inertial frame of refrence, the equasions don't need to change, regardless of the center of the Univerce. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Not exactly. Essentially, a quantum computer of 8 bits can do an operation on all of the possible variations, i.e. 0->255. To expand this, a 56 bit quantum computer could go through all the variations of a 56 bit key in one pass.
Why the arbitrary number 8? quantum computers can superimpose data on any bit (or qubit, or whatever). for 8 bits, you would need 8 qubits, for 512, you would need 512. The dificulty would be building a bus with 512 bit depth, so it would be more exspenisve, esp with current technology. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
They used a diffrent kind of technology, in thory. Quantum tehcnology can be used to calculate diffrent things at the same time. each bit (I belive this is correct) can be tested in both on and off. So you could test *every* key, in the amount of time that the EEF's technology took to crack one. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
They can get just about anyone they want I'd be willing to bet. First of all, people already worship them. And secondly the company only has about 20 employees, and only two or three programmers.
Of course they are not going to sell there latest and greatest engines and games, that's how they make money.
Id supports Open source in the true sense of the word, not for commercial gain, but for experimenters to play with. They've also donated $20,000 to the FSF, (well Carmack did) and Carmack works on the GLX g200/400 drivers for linux
What exactly would be the benefit for them to release quake 3? if they couldn't make any money from it, they probably would never have even written it. You'll get you're q3a code in 2005. If you don't like it, why don't you write you're own 3d game engine? "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
The guy, Bruce Lewis was working on an Open GL port of DOOM for 15 months. although he had not reliced the code, he planned to after beta testing. Unfortunetly, he lost *all* his code and his backups in a flood. although other posters had said that it was a hard drive failure, it was not. there were backups made "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
People don't link their program with libdoom.so; they do so with DirectX.so (or whatever it is in the Windows world). It's comparing apples and oranges.
well, you can staticaly link with.lib s, or you can dynamicaly call functions from.dlls. I think, most programs link to a small.lib that has imports for a bunch of DLLs. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Actualy, this should be pretty posible, considering that DOOM worked on 20mhz 386s. Since you only have to worry about low rezes, and 4color grayscale graphics, I'm sure a palm could hack it.
As for the display, Just make most of the levels 'bright' EI more light then dark, and you should be able to get a pretty playable game out of it... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I'm pretty sure that doom was under a BSD style licens, or not licensd at all. since there were many DOOM spinnofs on the web "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't the DOOM source already open? I know you've been able to download it, and look through it. there there have been very many projects based on doom out on the web, such as GL doom (although it appears that that project was lost in a hard drive crash *shudder*... maybe argument for having many copies of the source code around the world).
How would changing the licsens to GPL effect people already working on projects based on doom? (or were these projects completly new implementations, not based on the DOOM code).
I was under the impression that DOOM was under a BSD style licens now, did they do this to prevent propitary spinnoffs? "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
How is this "offtopic" This is directly related to the topic of censorsip in the United states! "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
That's one of the things that concerns me the most. If there's even the slightest question in the mind of anyone as to the appropriateness censoring art... then our freedom is clearly and presently endangered!
well, there's a pretty big diffrence between *cencoring* somthing and *not paying for it*. I don't think it's unresonable for a government to only want to pay for art that the majority of it's citizens don't find offencive.
On the other hand, the government should *never* stop art from happening, and I don't the US government has gone that far... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
We will not stop until we have achieved TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION(TM)! Soon surface of the world shall be teaming with ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE.
First, the last few pockets of French shall be eliminated; former African colonies will be easy. And as there former empire falls, so to will the pockets of resistance. First France itself, then Quebec. We will flood their airwaves with our programming, their stores with our crap, and there vending machines with our sodas. They cannot withstand our cultural invasion forever!!
German will change overtime to its more pure brother, the one true 'lingua franca' of the world, ENGLISH,
Though the Spaniards spread their seed and there words around the world, there language will fall. As ENGLISH takes control. Mexico, Porto Rico, Cuba all will change to ENGLISH. Spain is a joke, soon they too will speak only English
Then, we will turn to the last language left, Chinese... While it seem as though there are to many, Chinese is far to fragment to succeed. Cantonese, Mandarin, all will fall, and be replaced by English. We won't stop until every Wong, Fu, Chang, and Li "shuo ying-ge-lish hau"
HAHAHAHAHHA
ENGLISH FOREVER, TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION(TM)!!
ENGLISH R0X D00D "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
the problem with that is twofold, first that collecting the hydrogen would be 'problomatic' in that it's a gas, and second that the storage requirements are difficult. I don't want to drive around with at 3,00 cubic foot tank to store fuel, and compressed hydrogen is extremely flammable "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Under the SCSL, I don't belive there can be anything like 'greenhat solaris'. Only Sun may sell the product, while you could put the app up on you're web/ftp server, you can't sell it. "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
They should put Mitnick on the electric chair for messing with software which took many hours of work and engineering.
Well, its not like any of the work was destroyed, what youre saying is the equivalant of killing someone beacuse they broke into your house and took a shower. Its not like he broke into SUNs CVS (or whatever they used) and deleted the solaris source. all he did was copy it.
I bet crackers can't program drivers or fix hardware...
I bet you can't fix computer hardware ether, do you have an EE degree? Though you might be able to corectly configure it in a PC, there are few people in the world with both the skills and the tools to fix the hardware inside most common PCs.
As for device drivers, I'm sure anyone with the skills to be a true 'eleet hacker' could probably build one. who do you think *writes* the scripts that script kiddies use?
If no one ever messed with software, any 'hacker' (in the ESR definition, in otherwords anyone who loves understands computers fully) could probably do whatever they wanted to other peoples machines. People like K mintnick are provocative, and truely in that they make us thing about security.
now, if he had destroyed sun's Solaris source code, it would be much diffrent "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I tried installing red-hat for the first time again, a few weeks ago... Make sure you remember the root password you give it, It's not 'broken' but its not very usefull ether.... "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I remember reading in wired about a similar case, some guy in the 70s or somthing patented buying and selling over a network. Someone purchaced the pattent and started harasing major makers. I think the patent was supposed to run out in a few years though....
If this thing is 'new' I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to find some 'prior art' "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Actualy, all that was was a standard distro that took took windows config info out of the registry (and used the a fat filesystem). its not like linux running under windows, or anything "Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
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Intel chips have no problems with more then 640k of ram. it was a design flaw in microsofts OS.
the 68k is another type of CPU the 'k' is sort for 000, ie 68000 68001, ect
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They can then make money off the game by two ways: First of all, they can sell it to the general public, who just wants a game to play and doesn't care about the code, and secondly, they can license the code to other developers for a fee that includes support and development tools that id uses in-house for their own production.
Well, the way things are now, Id provides almost no support whatsoever for there product. If Id opensourced there engen, people would get for free what now costs them $700,000. support would be a large burden on a company of less then 20. while I'm sure it would be posible for them to make some money with open source, I doubt it would be as much. remember, Id is basicaly selling source, not support (in addition to games). Going opensource would cause them to lose at least half there revinue stream. Other companys would also be able to sell support, why would they want to give themselves compition?
While Id opening there source would be good for you it might not be the best thing for Id. and since there writing the code, they can do whatever they want to with it. If you have a problem with it, then don't buy the game
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factors of 29: 29 and one.
:)
Hell, I can even factor 31337
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I don't see why, the laws governing planitary motion are based on gravity. since it is in a non inertial frame of refrence, the equasions don't need to change, regardless of the center of the Univerce.
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Not exactly. Essentially, a quantum computer of 8 bits can do an operation on all of the possible variations, i.e. 0->255. To expand this, a 56 bit quantum computer could go through all the variations of a 56 bit key in one pass.
Why the arbitrary number 8? quantum computers can superimpose data on any bit (or qubit, or whatever). for 8 bits, you would need 8 qubits, for 512, you would need 512. The dificulty would be building a bus with 512 bit depth, so it would be more exspenisve, esp with current technology.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
They used a diffrent kind of technology, in thory. Quantum tehcnology can be used to calculate diffrent things at the same time. each bit (I belive this is correct) can be tested in both on and off. So you could test *every* key, in the amount of time that the EEF's technology took to crack one.
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They can get just about anyone they want I'd be willing to bet. First of all, people already worship them. And secondly the company only has about 20 employees, and only two or three programmers.
Of course they are not going to sell there latest and greatest engines and games, that's how they make money.
Id supports Open source in the true sense of the word, not for commercial gain, but for experimenters to play with. They've also donated $20,000 to the FSF, (well Carmack did) and Carmack works on the GLX g200/400 drivers for linux
What exactly would be the benefit for them to release quake 3? if they couldn't make any money from it, they probably would never have even written it. You'll get you're q3a code in 2005. If you don't like it, why don't you write you're own 3d game engine?
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
The guy, Bruce Lewis was working on an Open GL port of DOOM for 15 months. although he had not reliced the code, he planned to after beta testing. Unfortunetly, he lost *all* his code and his backups in a flood. although other posters had said that it was a hard drive failure, it was not. there were backups made
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People don't link their program with libdoom.so; they do so with DirectX.so (or whatever it is in the Windows world). It's comparing apples and oranges.
.lib s, or you can dynamicaly call functions from .dlls. I think, most programs link to a small .lib that has imports for a bunch of DLLs.
well, you can staticaly link with
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Actualy, this should be pretty posible, considering that DOOM worked on 20mhz 386s. Since you only have to worry about low rezes, and 4color grayscale graphics, I'm sure a palm could hack it.
As for the display, Just make most of the levels 'bright' EI more light then dark, and you should be able to get a pretty playable game out of it...
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I'm pretty sure that doom was under a BSD style licens, or not licensd at all. since there were many DOOM spinnofs on the web
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't the DOOM source already open? I know you've been able to download it, and look through it. there there have been very many projects based on doom out on the web, such as GL doom (although it appears that that project was lost in a hard drive crash *shudder*... maybe argument for having many copies of the source code around the world).
How would changing the licsens to GPL effect people already working on projects based on doom? (or were these projects completly new implementations, not based on the DOOM code).
I was under the impression that DOOM was under a BSD style licens now, did they do this to prevent propitary spinnoffs?
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How is this "offtopic" This is directly related to the topic of censorsip in the United states!
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
That's one of the things that concerns me the most. If there's even the slightest question in the mind of anyone as to the appropriateness censoring art... then our freedom is clearly and presently endangered!
well, there's a pretty big diffrence between *cencoring* somthing and *not paying for it*. I don't think it's unresonable for a government to only want to pay for art that the majority of it's citizens don't find offencive.
On the other hand, the government should *never* stop art from happening, and I don't the US government has gone that far...
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
We will not stop until we have achieved TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION(TM)! Soon surface of the world shall be teaming with ENGLISH SPEAKING PEOPLE.
First, the last few pockets of French shall be eliminated; former African colonies will be easy. And as there former empire falls, so to will the pockets of resistance. First France itself, then Quebec. We will flood their airwaves with our programming, their stores with our crap, and there vending machines with our sodas. They cannot withstand our cultural invasion forever!!
German will change overtime to its more pure brother, the one true 'lingua franca' of the world, ENGLISH,
Though the Spaniards spread their seed and there words around the world, there language will fall. As ENGLISH takes control. Mexico, Porto Rico, Cuba all will change to ENGLISH. Spain is a joke, soon they too will speak only English
Then, we will turn to the last language left, Chinese... While it seem as though there are to many, Chinese is far to fragment to succeed. Cantonese, Mandarin, all will fall, and be replaced by English. We won't stop until every Wong, Fu, Chang, and Li "shuo ying-ge-lish hau"
HAHAHAHAHHA
ENGLISH FOREVER, TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION(TM)!!
ENGLISH R0X D00D
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
the problem with that is twofold, first that collecting the hydrogen would be 'problomatic' in that it's a gas, and second that the storage requirements are difficult. I don't want to drive around with at 3,00 cubic foot tank to store fuel, and compressed hydrogen is extremely flammable
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Actually I support microsystems for a living. I have better hardware skills than probably 90 percent of the computer professionals
wow, I can plug a card into a slot to!!, I guess I'm 31337!!. SWEET
. My area of expertise is spec'ing out hardware and software and then assembling it for use
Wow that sounds so hard! We should all bow down to you're ability to plug hard drives and video cards into motherboards!
Any 14 year old could do what you do.
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Under the SCSL, I don't belive there can be anything like 'greenhat solaris'. Only Sun may sell the product, while you could put the app up on you're web/ftp server, you can't sell it.
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They should put Mitnick on the electric chair for messing with software which took many hours of work and engineering.
Well, its not like any of the work was destroyed, what youre saying is the equivalant of killing someone beacuse they broke into your house and took a shower. Its not like he broke into SUNs CVS (or whatever they used) and deleted the solaris source. all he did was copy it.
I bet crackers can't program drivers or fix hardware...
I bet you can't fix computer hardware ether, do you have an EE degree? Though you might be able to corectly configure it in a PC, there are few people in the world with both the skills and the tools to fix the hardware inside most common PCs.
As for device drivers, I'm sure anyone with the skills to be a true 'eleet hacker' could probably build one. who do you think *writes* the scripts that script kiddies use?
If no one ever messed with software, any 'hacker' (in the ESR definition, in otherwords anyone who loves understands computers fully) could probably do whatever they wanted to other peoples machines. People like K mintnick are provocative, and truely in that they make us thing about security.
now, if he had destroyed sun's Solaris source code, it would be much diffrent
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
I tried installing red-hat for the first time again, a few weeks ago... Make sure you remember the root password you give it, It's not 'broken' but its not very usefull ether....
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and the thing is, she *didn't* have any errors. none at all.
Aside from the powercut, everything whent acording to plan.
It's great news for Linux, but I don't know about CNNin...
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can't put to much content on a floppa
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I remember reading in wired about a similar case, some guy in the 70s or somthing patented buying and selling over a network. Someone purchaced the pattent and started harasing major makers. I think the patent was supposed to run out in a few years though....
If this thing is 'new' I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to find some 'prior art'
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(I'm a evangelical Christian and a hardcore computer user/operator, and I'm convinced that Christians have nothing to gain by fear.)
You can't be that 'hard core' if you don't even know what hex means
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Actualy, all that was was a standard distro that took took windows config info out of the registry (and used the a fat filesystem). its not like linux running under windows, or anything
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