I have to agree. Any oldsters out there will be nodding to themselves and thinking "beta vs vhs". Better does not always win when "pretty close" costs less and is readiy available.
We'd all probably scream bloody murder if this weren't a free (beer) codec and someone else was pushing it on us. But we're symbolically behind it for just that reason; it is free. And I doubt we're all ready to toss out our Rios and Archoses and Nomads. I know I'm not. MP3 will take the same course as CD audio I predict -- "it's good enough, let's go with it".
You mean you can't find room in your long duster coat, your fedora, your fannypack or your fingerless gloves for this stuff?
Perhaps it might fit in your ham radio bag? No? Damn, I give up.
After diligently poring over all of these exchanges I have found definite clues and subtle meanings which lead us to understand the greater underlying truths here.
a)Leonard F. Wheat is a clever play on Arthur C. Clarke. He 'IS' Clarke! b)Slashdot is a clever allegory for the cutting and spearing of Jesus - Jesus was a Chrsitian who died - Elvis died - he was a Christian. Cliff is Elvis! c)If you arrange FWHEAT into a six-sided formation, it looks JUST LIKE a bathroom tile! Arthur C. Clarke is pooping on Elvis!
PS - Why the HELL didn't the Enquirer cover this? Slackards!
I believe a lot of the same things unformed said and I also believe/.ers understand this better than most.
Or to put it in NRA speak:
Computers don't turn kids into social outcasts, but socially outcast kids will turn to computers.
Sure, kids might get wrapped up in games, yadda yadda yadda. But, well, it's the same argument against TV and it's not the technology that's at fault. "She spends too much time in her room readin' them poetry books", "He spends too much time in front of the TV", "they spend too much time on the computer". These are age old complaints and the objects are just replaced from time to time.
When all kids are immersed in computing, then the whole 'social misfit' thing will center around something else since computers will be (are) so common place. Then something else will come along. Perhaps "He spends to much time in VR, he never watches media with his siblings like he used to".
I don't know much about Windows XP... which is why I don't write about it....
Keeping the updates flowing is one thing, but forcing users to update every 2-3 weeks? That might be a bit too much. I don't know much about OS X, but if the upgrades system can be configured to the users taste, and said configuration done in a user-friendly way, then maybe monthly updates might not be a bad thing...
... and this is almost exactly how it works. No offense intended, dude, but at least look at it first before commenting in "the press" (You guys ARE press now, despite any protestations to the contrary. You're quoted all over the place.).
Grumpy BiOFH who loves the updates and hasn't had to recompile the damned kernel 20 times.
Yeah, kinda like I had a problem calling Windows 95 an Operating System when it was really just a pretty shell/GUI for DOS with some tasking stuff thrown in...
Microsoft thinks Linux is doomed, and predicts that many Linux businesses will falter and fail before the end of the year.
"There really isn't much value in free," said Miller, who also contends that the latest release of the Linux kernel, 2.4, doesn't have the features required for widespread business use.
"And the recent security problems with Linux, coupled with the lack of key enterprise elements in the new kernel, really call into question whether Linux should be used at all," Miller added.
-Wired News- Jan, 2001
*COUGH*bullshit*COUGH*
Maybe Vinod will offer you a job in a year or so when you look back and say to yourself "Did I really say that? Did I really believe that?". We'll probably welcome you back into the *NIX fold... but you'll be required to recant a lot of crap.
I really wanted to thank you, at first, for your candor. Then I looked a little deeper (and re-read the answers). But despite that, I want to say thanks for having the guts to jump in here.
As for the business use comments... Microsoft knows very well this is not true. An extremely large and influential component manufacturing and design company (OK, maybe THE biggest in the IT industry) took this very step not long ago because of issues with Microsoft platforms not living up to their promise (and DESPITE plenty of futzing around by MS support personnel and engineers). They have been helped to realize this platform shift with the assistance of another extremely influential hardware vendor who has embraced Linux (3 letters. Starts with "I"). But... don't mention this to Mr. Gates... he lost his cool over it once (Oh, man, what fun!), I'm sure he'd rather not be reminded.
Re:We get PhotoShop first - No IRIX did!
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Rats....
But, hey, you guys... think about your future.
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If you were to come to me next year applying for a job in our incredibly huge *NIX-based printing environment and said "I set up print services at XXXXX. We ran OS X", I'd be inclined to put you in line for serious consideration. Not only do you understand Macs... I'm going to assume you now understand printcaps and lp!!
Welcome to a new level of IT experience... "*NIX-savvy".
We get PhotoShop first - nyah nyah!
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OS X will be the first *NIX to run Photoshop native! WOOHOO!
The GIMP is cool and all... but even the GIMP guys will tell you 'it ain't Photoshop yet'.
I'm not bashing the GIMP, nor am I abandoning my Linux boxen. I'm just so happy that, once this happens, I can practically abandon OS 9.1 (Classic) like I did Winders oh so long ago and have an all *NIX household! Yes, Adobe has committed to bringing its major apps to OS X)
Back in Oct. of 1999, Microsoft posted an article entitled "Linux Myths" (http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/news/msnw/L inuxMyths.asp). In this article, much was said about NT security versus Linux security and the opinion stated was that NT was far more secure than Linux.
Given the number of patches released in response to exploits found (and very often implemented by real world hackers/crackers/script kiddies) involving the Windows NT OS (as well as Microsoft products for NT), does Microsoft still hold the opinion that their product(s), and in particular their server platform, is more secure? Even in light of the ever-increasing security features implemented in Linux in the intervening period? Even in light of the continued exploitation of Microsoft platforms?
The article further implies a lower TCO and cites the re-training of engineers to.... understand.... Linux. Does this article still hold true in Microsoft's eyes given the proliferation of Linux adopters and supporters in the IT industry?
Thanks for having the guts to jump in this shark pit.
And the GameBoy Color (which is what the grossly under-researched article was trying to compare) did not have 256 colors... it had 32,000 possible but only 56 (yer about 200 short AP, pay up) at once. The new machine can do 511 in gameplay (not 32,000 - that's only for on static images... and it's 32,768).
Get a ******** clue AP (and CNN). Hire writers who can ******* read. All of this is BLATANTLY spelled out on the gameboy site.
And what IS up with that Playstation comparison? What's next? Cessna vs. the Boeing 777? Wheelbarrows vs. dump trucks?
And as for "lacking in technology", considering that the computer the reporter used to file the ******* story probably has a 32-bit processor as, well... perhaps he should have used the Playstation 2 !
"me and dannywasreal bored cuz their wont nouthing to do until danny said we could go haX0r some peeple and maybe bill gates and then we culd get some mony but we didnt' find anything that told us how so we went to this l33t place where all these lenux nerds where and they told us to go haX0r on this toad and we pounded on it til my moms gateway did that blue screen thing and then we were bored so we went to mikes house cuz mike has a cable modem and it hooks right up to the college or something and mike says heknows kevin nittlicker or something. he said we had to go home if the FBi showed up but they didnt.
toads are stupid.
danny says indiana jones is playing at the dollar movies."
For those who had the odd feeling it looked like the Espresso... here's why... it is. Or, at least, it's a machine built inside the same clone-kit. Here's the
SaintSong Espresso again.
Check the CD-ROM dock, the holes in the case, etc.
So I'm guessing this is like the PC-Book machine you see around and anyone can buy em, slap in a processor, HDD and RAM, load em up and slap their moniker on em.
The Cappuchino is still cooler.;)
TheBitch
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I have to agree. Any oldsters out there will be nodding to themselves and thinking "beta vs vhs". Better does not always win when "pretty close" costs less and is readiy available.
We'd all probably scream bloody murder if this weren't a free (beer) codec and someone else was pushing it on us. But we're symbolically behind it for just that reason; it is free. And I doubt we're all ready to toss out our Rios and Archoses and Nomads. I know I'm not. MP3 will take the same course as CD audio I predict -- "it's good enough, let's go with it".
You mean you can't find room in your long duster coat, your fedora, your fannypack or your fingerless gloves for this stuff?
Perhaps it might fit in your ham radio bag? No? Damn, I give up.
I agree with the coward, "get a purse".
...when you find out they're totally mis-leading.
>THUMPTHUMP
Dammit, someone mod this up! I almost pee'd myself readin it! ROFLMAO!!!!
After diligently poring over all of these exchanges I have found definite clues and subtle meanings which lead us to understand the greater underlying truths here.
a)Leonard F. Wheat is a clever play on Arthur C. Clarke. He 'IS' Clarke!
b)Slashdot is a clever allegory for the cutting and spearing of Jesus - Jesus was a Chrsitian who died - Elvis died - he was a Christian. Cliff is Elvis!
c)If you arrange FWHEAT into a six-sided formation, it looks JUST LIKE a bathroom tile! Arthur C. Clarke is pooping on Elvis!
PS - Why the HELL didn't the Enquirer cover this? Slackards!
...but I thought that the selling of SSNs and CCNs was illegal.
Guess that only counts if you're a small business or a 'criminal'.
Off to send my "you won't get another dime out of me, you bastards" mail...
I believe a lot of the same things unformed said and I also believe /.ers understand this better than most.
Or to put it in NRA speak:
Computers don't turn kids into social outcasts, but socially outcast kids will turn to computers.
Sure, kids might get wrapped up in games, yadda yadda yadda. But, well, it's the same argument against TV and it's not the technology that's at fault. "She spends too much time in her room readin' them poetry books", "He spends too much time in front of the TV", "they spend too much time on the computer". These are age old complaints and the objects are just replaced from time to time.
When all kids are immersed in computing, then the whole 'social misfit' thing will center around something else since computers will be (are) so common place. Then something else will come along. Perhaps "He spends to much time in VR, he never watches media with his siblings like he used to".
((shrug)) Life goes on.
...block MSN (and AOL?) ? This would effectively stop 95% of the spam I receive.
I don't know much about Windows XP... which is why I don't write about it....
...
... and this is almost exactly how it works. No offense intended, dude, but at least look at it first before commenting in "the press" (You guys ARE press now, despite any protestations to the contrary. You're quoted all over the place.).
Keeping the updates flowing is one thing, but forcing users to update every 2-3 weeks? That might be a bit too much. I don't know much about OS X, but if the upgrades system can be configured to the users taste, and said configuration done in a user-friendly way, then maybe monthly updates might not be a bad thing
Grumpy BiOFH who loves the updates and hasn't had to recompile the damned kernel 20 times.
What, I repeat, WHAT is the useless, not-even-a-domain, linked-in-the-f#%$@%#-article LINK?!?!?
How about:
"(Use the Preview Button, Katz! Check those URLs, Katz! Don't forget the http://, Katz! Make sure it exists, Katz!)"
www.danamonitor.com doesn't exist.
So... what your saying is... Katz was typing with one hand? BWUAHAHAHAHAHA! Priceless!
Yeah, kinda like I had a problem calling Windows 95 an Operating System when it was really just a pretty shell/GUI for DOS with some tasking stuff thrown in...
Microsoft thinks Linux is doomed, and predicts that many Linux businesses will falter and fail before the end of the year.
"There really isn't much value in free," said Miller, who also contends that the latest release of the Linux kernel, 2.4, doesn't have the features required for widespread business use.
"And the recent security problems with Linux, coupled with the lack of key enterprise elements in the new kernel, really call into question whether Linux should be used at all," Miller added. -Wired News- Jan, 2001
*COUGH*bullshit*COUGH*
Maybe Vinod will offer you a job in a year or so when you look back and say to yourself "Did I really say that? Did I really believe that?". We'll probably welcome you back into the *NIX fold... but you'll be required to recant a lot of crap.
I really wanted to thank you, at first, for your candor. Then I looked a little deeper (and re-read the answers). But despite that, I want to say thanks for having the guts to jump in here.
As for the business use comments... Microsoft knows very well this is not true. An extremely large and influential component manufacturing and design company (OK, maybe THE biggest in the IT industry) took this very step not long ago because of issues with Microsoft platforms not living up to their promise (and DESPITE plenty of futzing around by MS support personnel and engineers). They have been helped to realize this platform shift with the assistance of another extremely influential hardware vendor who has embraced Linux (3 letters. Starts with "I"). But... don't mention this to Mr. Gates... he lost his cool over it once (Oh, man, what fun!), I'm sure he'd rather not be reminded.
Rats....
If you were to come to me next year applying for a job in our incredibly huge *NIX-based printing environment and said "I set up print services at XXXXX. We ran OS X", I'd be inclined to put you in line for serious consideration. Not only do you understand Macs... I'm going to assume you now understand printcaps and lp!!
Welcome to a new level of IT experience... "*NIX-savvy".
OS X will be the first *NIX to run Photoshop native! WOOHOO!
The GIMP is cool and all... but even the GIMP guys will tell you 'it ain't Photoshop yet'.
I'm not bashing the GIMP, nor am I abandoning my Linux boxen. I'm just so happy that, once this happens, I can practically abandon OS 9.1 (Classic) like I did Winders oh so long ago and have an all *NIX household!
Yes, Adobe has committed to bringing its major apps to OS X)
Back in Oct. of 1999, Microsoft posted an article entitled "Linux Myths" (http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/news/msnw/L inuxMyths.asp). In this article, much was said about NT security versus Linux security and the opinion stated was that NT was far more secure than Linux.
.... understand.... Linux. Does this article still hold true in Microsoft's eyes given the proliferation of Linux adopters and supporters in the IT industry?
Given the number of patches released in response to exploits found (and very often implemented by real world hackers/crackers/script kiddies) involving the Windows NT OS (as well as Microsoft products for NT), does Microsoft still hold the opinion that their product(s), and in particular their server platform, is more secure? Even in light of the ever-increasing security features implemented in Linux in the intervening period? Even in light of the continued exploitation of Microsoft platforms?
The article further implies a lower TCO and cites the re-training of engineers to
Thanks for having the guts to jump in this shark pit.
blahblahblah
Please don't force me to change my startup page to something else...
Kuro5hin even did a nice piece.
When the news finally hits, I'll pour some of my half-half-decaf-latte on my copy of the BeOS Bible for my homies.
Goodbye to the OS "for the rest of... well, nobody". Damn I loved you.
Goin back to playin with an OS which has apps... OS X.
I mean, god, how Fortyseven can you be. Are you Fortyseven?
Man, all these FortySevens piss me off.
I intend to work this into the english language. Anyone care to join? hehehe
And the GameBoy Color (which is what the grossly under-researched article was trying to compare) did not have 256 colors... it had 32,000 possible but only 56 (yer about 200 short AP, pay up) at once. The new machine can do 511 in gameplay (not 32,000 - that's only for on static images... and it's 32,768).
Get a ******** clue AP (and CNN). Hire writers who can ******* read. All of this is BLATANTLY spelled out on the gameboy site.
And what IS up with that Playstation comparison? What's next? Cessna vs. the Boeing 777? Wheelbarrows vs. dump trucks?
And as for "lacking in technology", considering that the computer the reporter used to file the ******* story probably has a 32-bit processor as, well... perhaps he should have used the Playstation 2 !
MORONS!
"me and dannywasreal bored cuz their wont nouthing to do until danny said we could go haX0r some peeple and maybe bill gates and then we culd get some mony but we didnt' find anything that told us how so we went to this l33t place where all these lenux nerds where and they told us to go haX0r on this toad and we pounded on it til my moms gateway did that blue screen thing and then we were bored so we went to mikes house cuz mike has a cable modem and it hooks right up to the college or something and mike says heknows kevin nittlicker or something. he said we had to go home if the FBi showed up but they didnt.
toads are stupid.
danny says indiana jones is playing at the dollar movies."
http://www.jlyrics.org/anime/bebop/cat.html
Closest thing to a real translation there is. See the notes.
--- "Ed is Ed!" ---
For those who had the odd feeling it looked like the Espresso... here's why... it is.
;)
Or, at least, it's a machine built inside the same clone-kit.
Here's the SaintSong Espresso again.
Check the CD-ROM dock, the holes in the case, etc.
So I'm guessing this is like the PC-Book machine you see around and anyone can buy em, slap in a processor, HDD and RAM, load em up and slap their moniker on em.
The Cappuchino is still cooler.
TheBitch