Does it make it less interesting? No. (For Christ's sake...)
I hate the modern media, because being the first counts more then being accurate. I personally don't care if it is two weeks old: if somebody found it just right now, or some journalist was able to make space for it only now: OK, then I am open to read and discuss it now...
The Hungarian company you mention does not claim that it can recover overwritten data. However, it can recover deleted files, similar to Norton's and PC-Tools' undelete tool under DOS in the old days. Moreover, they can recover data from drives that are electronically or mechanically defective.
Just because they do claim at the first page that they "undelete" your files if you like, it does not mean that they don't do something else if needed -- and yes, paid for. But not the price that you should if you made it yourself.
They are a bunch of people who were originally trained to create a hard drive manufactury with adequate research capabilities. The manufactury was never built, but the research experts groupped together.
Actually, they get orders from all over the world, sometimes hard drives come with dedicated private airplanes:)
So, I think, if it is possible, they will collect the data, because they do have everything that is needed...
has thousands of dollars in equipment and training to recreate your deleted data (like the National Security Agency in conjunction with the CIA
Wrong. See my previous post. You don't need the personnel, neither the equipment. The service is commercially and easily available.
This is similar how most people that used only gui mail clients think that the From: header cannot be faked. They think that you need to be CIA to do that. However, you only need a telnet and some knowledge of an rfc...
You are right only in that they must spying on you to do any steps, and this is definitely not something to consider as a small company. But I expect organizations like the IRS to really take care of my data. Or if they do not, I want to be able to decide what I tell them and what I don't...
they'll have to do more than just get the drive going again
People also mistakenly think that it is a lot more. No. That's why I mentioned http://www.kurt.hu./ Not very cheap, but not exclusive either. And they get out the bare disks in their laboratory, and read the data without even the mechanics working in the drive.
Its kind of hard to get rid of your data on a hard drive. You are lucky if it works, then you can try 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxx'. However, if first thay laid off their aix staff, employed some windows engineers, then they decided to sell those aix boxes... Well, well:)
Your task is even harder if you have a hard drive that ceased operating. There exists companies like http://www.kurt.hu/ that have state of the art technology to retrieve data from damaged hard drives. If you need your data: good for you. If you'd like to get rid of it for sure: better take good care of it...
Fine. Then I must be very clever. My system have all of it... Oh, sorry, I just created it for a university, and I don't have a patent for it, and just planned to use my code and my experience to start up a public project. Now that they have a patent, they can claim that I've just read it --- which I did not --- so I can't possibly found an enterprise on this. (Actually: I'm living in Europe, so maybe I can. But not in the us?)
I am really interested, since I've spent the last two years of my life for creating a sysadmin tool, i hope much better than fai, but sort of similar.
Now they come, and create this buzz with only marketing bullshit on their site. I have filled in the form with all my data (curios that they did not ask my mothers maiden name...), and got the chance to download the whitepapers with such a huge amount of marketing stuff in it, that I still don't know how this system works.
So: - I don't care about cost graphicons - I don't care about stories - I don't care about anything, but
could anybody please tell me what the architecture is, what is the way it installs/maintains servers, so how does it work?
The most important thing is that children are able to "live" in a system that can be discovered. Windows cannot be. However, if you are interested in how things work, with linux you can see not only some corporate blahblah, but get real insight, through docs _and_ source.
(Interesting: way back I used to live in a windows environment. I was reading a.hlp file about pipes. It was "Windows Pipes (r)". Well, seeing that (r) I thought pipes were invented by Windows. Or Microsoft. Years later I've learned a lot more about the topic... under linux.)
In Europe we regulated our agriculture heavily in order to ban "inhuman" practices used at chicken farms and the like. Result: higher production costs. Solution: subsidies. Now listen what Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair just told the last week: the subsidies should be eliminated if favor of "free competition". Now give me a break.
This is a similar 22 catch for you: you, Americans can live well because your companies are allowed to act as evil as they act. Regulate them, and you'll be faced with huge problems: they'll lose competitiveness. Solutions: subsidize them as a compensation! Result: no free trade, and dieing economy...
I wonder how that feels when you have that power that you can make anyone dirty with "theories". I have some questions (and answers, too):
1. Are you aware that lately, after some world wars and things like that, we usually refrain from creating contexts where minorities as a whole are depicted in a dishonouring manner? For example I think you wouldn't write an article about dirty practices of businessmen and at the same time about jews in general, even if you learn somehow that the relative number of jews in the NYSE is quite high compared to the national rate.
2. Would you be more careful if you wrote about particular people, not just about "members of a community?" A: No, you wouldn't. Last time I remember somebody died as a result, and BBC got blamed...
Well, never mind. Journalists, be happy, and continue to rule the world!
(I'd also feel better if uses for this machine running Linux weren't better served with a cheapy PC.)
Xbox is silent. And it is very cheap, considering how much does it take to buy a pc that is this silent. I, and lots of others, do not have separate room where I could put that cheap pc. If Xbox is mine, I'd like to use it... because I need it.
That means, there is a valid reason to use it for a different purpose, as a server, even if you didn't see it.
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Does it make it less interesting? No. (For Christ's sake...)
I hate the modern media, because being the first counts more then being accurate. I personally don't care if it is two weeks old: if somebody found it just right now, or some journalist was able to make space for it only now: OK, then I am open to read and discuss it now...
Just because they do claim at the first page that they "undelete" your files if you like, it does not mean that they don't do something else if needed -- and yes, paid for. But not the price that you should if you made it yourself.
They are a bunch of people who were originally trained to create a hard drive manufactury with adequate research capabilities. The manufactury was never built, but the research experts groupped together.
Actually, they get orders from all over the world, sometimes hard drives come with dedicated private airplanes
So, I think, if it is possible, they will collect the data, because they do have everything that is needed...
10 minutes. It is trivial.
:)
Hey, then you lose those 14 bucks, since you can't sell your machines anymore!!!
Wrong. See my previous post. You don't need the personnel, neither the equipment. The service is commercially and easily available.
This is similar how most people that used only gui mail clients think that the From: header cannot be faked. They think that you need to be CIA to do that. However, you only need a telnet and some knowledge of an rfc...
You are right only in that they must spying on you to do any steps, and this is definitely not something to consider as a small company. But I expect organizations like the IRS to really take care of my data. Or if they do not, I want to be able to decide what I tell them and what I don't...
People also mistakenly think that it is a lot more. No. That's why I mentioned http://www.kurt.hu./ Not very cheap, but not exclusive either. And they get out the bare disks in their laboratory, and read the data without even the mechanics working in the drive.
Its kind of hard to get rid of your data on a hard drive. You are lucky if it works, then you can try 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxx'. However, if first thay laid off their aix staff, employed some windows engineers, then they decided to sell those aix boxes... Well, well :)
Your task is even harder if you have a hard drive that ceased operating. There exists companies like http://www.kurt.hu/ that have state of the art technology to retrieve data from damaged hard drives. If you need your data: good for you. If you'd like to get rid of it for sure: better take good care of it...
Fine. Then I must be very clever. My system have all of it... Oh, sorry, I just created it for a university, and I don't have a patent for it, and just planned to use my code and my experience to start up a public project. Now that they have a patent, they can claim that I've just read it --- which I did not --- so I can't possibly found an enterprise on this. (Actually: I'm living in Europe, so maybe I can. But not in the us?)
I am really interested, since I've spent the last two years of my life for creating a sysadmin tool, i hope much better than fai, but sort of similar.
Now they come, and create this buzz with only marketing bullshit on their site. I have filled in the form with all my data (curios that they did not ask my mothers maiden name...), and got the chance to download the whitepapers with such a huge amount of marketing stuff in it, that I still don't know how this system works.
So:
- I don't care about cost graphicons
- I don't care about stories
- I don't care about anything, but
could anybody please tell me what the architecture is, what is the way it installs/maintains servers, so how does it work?
The most important thing is that children are able to "live" in a system that can be discovered. Windows cannot be. However, if you are interested in how things work, with linux you can see not only some corporate blahblah, but get real insight, through docs _and_ source.
.hlp file about pipes. It was "Windows Pipes (r)". Well, seeing that (r) I thought pipes were invented by Windows. Or Microsoft. Years later I've learned a lot more about the topic... under linux.)
(Interesting: way back I used to live in a windows environment. I was reading a
In Europe we regulated our agriculture heavily in order to ban "inhuman" practices used at chicken farms and the like. Result: higher production costs. Solution: subsidies. Now listen what Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair just told the last week: the subsidies should be eliminated if favor of "free competition". Now give me a break.
This is a similar 22 catch for you: you, Americans can live well because your companies are allowed to act as evil as they act. Regulate them, and you'll be faced with huge problems: they'll lose competitiveness. Solutions: subsidize them as a compensation! Result: no free trade, and dieing economy...
I written this complaint:
I wonder how that feels when you have that power that you can make anyone dirty with "theories". I have some questions (and answers, too):
1. Are you aware that lately, after some world wars and things like that, we usually refrain from creating contexts where minorities as a whole are depicted in a dishonouring manner? For example I think you wouldn't write an article about dirty practices of businessmen and at the same time about jews in general, even if you learn somehow that the relative number of jews in the NYSE is quite high compared to the national rate.
2. Would you be more careful if you wrote about particular people, not just about "members of a community?"
A: No, you wouldn't. Last time I remember somebody died as a result, and BBC got blamed...
Well, never mind. Journalists, be happy, and continue to rule the world!
Best regards...
(I'd also feel better if uses for this machine running Linux weren't better served with a cheapy PC.) Xbox is silent. And it is very cheap, considering how much does it take to buy a pc that is this silent. I, and lots of others, do not have separate room where I could put that cheap pc. If Xbox is mine, I'd like to use it... because I need it. That means, there is a valid reason to use it for a different purpose, as a server, even if you didn't see it.