And when the Angelic light of liberal Democrat rule is achieved the new government will enlighten the public on the true meaning of "social justice" thus establishing the next secular social paradise where the Evil of conservatism is washed away by a free education system managed by those that understand how things should be.
Puleeze.....remember that NAZI's and Brownshirts in pre-war Germany had strikingly similar methods even though each was on the extreme end of the political spectrum opposite of one another.
Colleges and Universities are the biggest group think places on the planet. Sure they have lots of different perspectives, as long as they are all left of center.
If the "gaurd" at circuit city was smart, he should of let him go and just followed the guy to his car, taken the license plate number and called the cops. At that point if circuit city had any tapes of him taking something the police would of had justification to search for stolen goods.
If all he was doing was refusing to let himself be searched, then all the police could of done (if they wanted to, it's likely they would of asked circuit city for evidence) is go to the guys house and give him a warning (after making sure he had no outstanding warrants of course).
Circuit city could then of blacklisted him from the business (and told him he is not allowed on circuit city property) by making sure he was flagged whenever he tried to buy something there, after which they could call the police if he ever was there or at any other circuit city and have him arrested for trespassing.
You probably can't even force somebody to leave if they are there illegally. As an example..if you put up a no-trespassing sign and somebody comes on your property anyway. If they are unarmed and not being threatening to you, you have no right to take out a weapon and attack them with it (gun, sword, slingshot, BB gun, etc).
Your only recourse is to call the police at once, and have them removed by them. Otherwise you can't touch them unless to defend yourself, or possibly (and I'm not sure about this) if you see them stealing something...and even then I'm not sure how much latitude the law gives you to stop them with force.
Hmmmmm...I thought I'd agree with your statement, but then what's to prevent me from setting up my own dictatorial slave camp on "private property"?
The rights of the owner of private property are certainly important, but I'm skeptical (and unsure) which parts of the constitution and the bill of rights (if any) are "suspended" when you enter private property. I mean, the private property is still on U.S. Territory.
In this world and age people tend to believe that if the law allows it then it's OK (not saying I believe that).
People complained that it was completely OK for TIVO to use a loophole in v2 of the GPL because..well..they found a way to do what they wanted using the license. To those people it does not seem to matter that it goes against the SPIRIT of what the FSF wanted to achieve with the license.
Now we see people complaining because somebody found a way to loophole the BSD license even though doing so is considered "unethical" by people who use the BSD license.
Too bad. FSF's response was to change the license. If you don't like the fact that people are "subverting" the BSD license and code that it's under then use another license or get somebody to change the BSD license. (BTW...who is in charge of making changes to the BSD license?)
As much as I agree, a war between BSD and the LINUX world would not hurt LINUX as much as it would BSD. LINUX is being used far more and in more places than BSD. That's not saying that BSD is not used in a lot of place.
It's often said that LINUX tries out things first and BSD comes later with more stability. The LINUX world can probably do without what comes out of the BSD world, can the BSD world do without what comes out of the LINUX world.
And for the record, I don't consider "more free" when that "more free" includes the "freedom" to restrict others freedom. GPL puts restrictions on people explicitly. BSD allows people to to put whatever restrictions they want.
"Everything the government ever does sucks and doesn't work""
This is Slashdot, and the above statement only applies when Darth Cheney, and the Monster war mongering baby eating criminal George W. Bush is in power, using his tendrils to defraud poor helpless Americans from their earnings.
When the Angelic, gold winged light of Democrat rule enlightens the citizens with their mistakes about the righteousness of liberal social justice the government will run like a well oiled machine elevating citizens into a new secular enlightenment free of conservative evil.
This is because like many people the author does not understand the GPLv3 and instead subscribes to "sensational" accusations of what the GPLv3 does and does not do.
At the Risk of starting another heated discussion....
"People are upset that TiVO is telling you what you can and can't do with the hardware, and last time I checked the big 3 cable companies (Comcast, Cox and TimeWarner) all offered DVR service with their cable box."
Isn't that EXACTLY what the FSF is complaining about? That if you are using software under the GPL license, the spirit of the GPL (both licenses and codified in v3) is that the user should be able to control the software running on their hardware (when their hardware is using software licensed under the GPL)?
People would not be complaining if TIVO corp had not tried and succeeded in finding a loophole that violates one of the main points the FSF believes in (and consequently the spirit of the FSF's license)
You can disagree and say you think v3 of the GPL is less free. No prob, but it's the FSF's license and loopholing it, knowing that your loopholing violates their (the FSF's) intentions is wrong.
What would a TIVO be like if that loophole had not existed?
If my front door is unlocked and you can walk up from the street, turn the knob and walk in, in most countries you are breaking the law by unauthorized entry.
My front door being unlocked does not give you the right to walk in (legally speaking), morally is another story depending on your perspective.
True, the owner of the house is an idiot for keeping his front door unlocked but that STILL does not make it legal for you to trespass on private property.
Most people I know who buy records make a high quality audio digital recording of the record on the first play by taking the audio out and doing a high sample of it.
Have you listened to a modern pressed record played on a modern (made this year) turntable?
I have a set of flac music files of the latest White Stripes Album. The hiss is almost inaudible, there are no clicks, pops or any of the other crap you would hear on a mid 70's turn table.
Yes, the frequency range is nothing like a CD, but the dynamic range is SO much better. Plus on the CD version of the same album above is SO loud it actually clips (click sounds on loud points of the album).
It's a sad state of affairs when the Vinyl version of a record sounds better than the CD.
"With support from the Directorate for Computer and Information Science and Engineering (CISE), researchers are working together to design a bold new research platform called GENI, the Global Environment for Network Innovations. As envisioned, GENI will allow researchers throughout the country to build and experiment with completely new and different designs and capabilities that will inform the creation of a 21st Century Internet."
Being all up in arms about this stuff is fine. But I have SERIOUS concerns that people are SO foamed up at the mouth with Bush that when the next Democrat wins the presidency everybody will be so happy that nobody will pay attention like they are now.
I predict that with the exception of some high-profile non-productive executive orders the next prez (no matter which party) will keep most the powers that Bush has acquired via executive orders.
I may sound jaded, but let's not delude ourselves.
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And when the Angelic light of liberal Democrat rule is achieved the new government will enlighten the public on the true meaning of "social justice" thus establishing the next secular social paradise where the Evil of conservatism is washed away by a free education system managed by those that understand how things should be.
Puleeze.....remember that NAZI's and Brownshirts in pre-war Germany had strikingly similar methods even though each was on the extreme end of the political spectrum opposite of one another.
Colleges and Universities are the biggest group think places on the planet. Sure they have lots of different perspectives, as long as they are all left of center.
Ahhh...but they don't have a cache of secret military gear developed from crashed alien spacecraft in the SW.....
You don't ACTUALLY think they pay $500 for a hammer do you?
If and WHEN Solaris becomes GPL (v2 or v3) in it's entirety I'll pay attention.
Until then it's not going anwyere fast.
"It is October 4th, 2057..."
:( - If I can make it.
And I'll be 87 years old
I sure hope they come up with some nanotech to keep me around to see a manned mission to Titan.
Why? It makes an EXCELLENT USB 2.0 storage device for general file backup. I'm like you though, I REALLY want a wide screen IPOD.
If it has Wifi on it and an Iphone like interface....my credit card comes out in a moment.
Nobdy expects the Spanish INQUISITION!
If the "gaurd" at circuit city was smart, he should of let him go and just followed the guy to his car, taken the license plate number and called the cops. At that point if circuit city had any tapes of him taking something the police would of had justification to search for stolen goods.
If all he was doing was refusing to let himself be searched, then all the police could of done (if they wanted to, it's likely they would of asked circuit city for evidence) is go to the guys house and give him a warning (after making sure he had no outstanding warrants of course).
Circuit city could then of blacklisted him from the business (and told him he is not allowed on circuit city property) by making sure he was flagged whenever he tried to buy something there, after which they could call the police if he ever was there or at any other circuit city and have him arrested for trespassing.
No...but if you don't have a good lawyer and $$$ you might lose.
You probably can't even force somebody to leave if they are there illegally. As an example..if you put up a no-trespassing sign and somebody comes on your property anyway. If they are unarmed and not being threatening to you, you have no right to take out a weapon and attack them with it (gun, sword, slingshot, BB gun, etc).
Your only recourse is to call the police at once, and have them removed by them. Otherwise you can't touch them unless to defend yourself, or possibly (and I'm not sure about this) if you see them stealing something...and even then I'm not sure how much latitude the law gives you to stop them with force.
Hmmmmm...I thought I'd agree with your statement, but then what's to prevent me from setting up my own dictatorial slave camp on "private property"?
The rights of the owner of private property are certainly important, but I'm skeptical (and unsure) which parts of the constitution and the bill of rights (if any) are "suspended" when you enter private property. I mean, the private property is still on U.S. Territory.
In this world and age people tend to believe that if the law allows it then it's OK (not saying I believe that).
People complained that it was completely OK for TIVO to use a loophole in v2 of the GPL because..well..they found a way to do what they wanted using the license. To those people it does not seem to matter that it goes against the SPIRIT of what the FSF wanted to achieve with the license.
Now we see people complaining because somebody found a way to loophole the BSD license even though doing so is considered "unethical" by people who use the BSD license.
Too bad. FSF's response was to change the license. If you don't like the fact that people are "subverting" the BSD license and code that it's under then use another license or get somebody to change the BSD license. (BTW...who is in charge of making changes to the BSD license?)
As much as I agree, a war between BSD and the LINUX world would not hurt LINUX as much as it would BSD. LINUX is being used far more and in more places than BSD. That's not saying that BSD is not used in a lot of place.
It's often said that LINUX tries out things first and BSD comes later with more stability. The LINUX world can probably do without what comes out of the BSD world, can the BSD world do without what comes out of the LINUX world.
And for the record, I don't consider "more free" when that "more free" includes the "freedom" to restrict others freedom. GPL puts restrictions on people explicitly. BSD allows people to to put whatever restrictions they want.
I thought Seattle WAS a dark horde of nerds?
Oh...I have no data to suggest that it's actually true. It's all anecdotal.
But one thing is for sure. The partisan democrats are the most rabidly loud and most prolific of posters.
I just find that the left seems to be more "extreme" in their posting than the right (that's not saying the right is any better in their actions).
"Everything the government ever does sucks and doesn't work""
:)
This is Slashdot, and the above statement only applies when Darth Cheney, and the Monster war mongering baby eating criminal George W. Bush is in power, using his tendrils to defraud poor helpless Americans from their earnings.
When the Angelic, gold winged light of Democrat rule enlightens the citizens with their mistakes about the righteousness of liberal social justice the government will run like a well oiled machine elevating citizens into a new secular enlightenment free of conservative evil.
Hey! That was fun!
This is because like many people the author does not understand the GPLv3 and instead subscribes to "sensational" accusations of what the GPLv3 does and does not do.
At the Risk of starting another heated discussion....
"People are upset that TiVO is telling you what you can and can't do with the hardware, and last time I checked the big 3 cable companies (Comcast, Cox and TimeWarner) all offered DVR service with their cable box."
Isn't that EXACTLY what the FSF is complaining about? That if you are using software under the GPL license, the spirit of the GPL (both licenses and codified in v3) is that the user should be able to control the software running on their hardware (when their hardware is using software licensed under the GPL)?
People would not be complaining if TIVO corp had not tried and succeeded in finding a loophole that violates one of the main points the FSF believes in (and consequently the spirit of the FSF's license)
You can disagree and say you think v3 of the GPL is less free. No prob, but it's the FSF's license and loopholing it, knowing that your loopholing violates their (the FSF's) intentions is wrong.
What would a TIVO be like if that loophole had not existed?
Funny thing is, the LOOOONG release time of WinXP has given the developers the time they need to get wine working really well.
If my front door is unlocked and you can walk up from the street, turn the knob and walk in, in most countries you are breaking the law by unauthorized entry.
My front door being unlocked does not give you the right to walk in (legally speaking), morally is another story depending on your perspective.
True, the owner of the house is an idiot for keeping his front door unlocked but that STILL does not make it legal for you to trespass on private property.
Most people I know who buy records make a high quality audio digital recording of the record on the first play by taking the audio out and doing a high sample of it.
Have you listened to a modern pressed record played on a modern (made this year) turntable?
I have a set of flac music files of the latest White Stripes Album. The hiss is almost inaudible, there are no clicks, pops or any of the other crap you would hear on a mid 70's turn table.
Yes, the frequency range is nothing like a CD, but the dynamic range is SO much better. Plus on the CD version of the same album above is SO loud it actually clips (click sounds on loud points of the album).
It's a sad state of affairs when the Vinyl version of a record sounds better than the CD.
What is really needed is a web site which lists CD's that have the compression jacked up to extremes so people can avoid them.
Yes I know, Joe Shmoe will not care about this site, but I will/do.
Does such a place exist?
http://www.nsf.gov/cise/cns/geni/
"With support from the Directorate for Computer and Information Science and Engineering (CISE), researchers are working together to design a bold new research platform called GENI, the Global Environment for Network Innovations. As envisioned, GENI will allow researchers throughout the country to build and experiment with completely new and different designs and capabilities that will inform the creation of a 21st Century Internet."
And HOW does this apply to my comment? Sounds like a random comment
Being all up in arms about this stuff is fine. But I have SERIOUS concerns that people are SO foamed up at the mouth with Bush that when the next Democrat wins the presidency everybody will be so happy that nobody will pay attention like they are now.
I predict that with the exception of some high-profile non-productive executive orders the next prez (no matter which party) will keep most the powers that Bush has acquired via executive orders.
I may sound jaded, but let's not delude ourselves.