If you had read about the saga on Cryptome, you would learn that if John had waited the six months, he would have had those funds dispersed to him. Instead, he chose to refund those who donated and cease doing business with Paypal.
All PayPal did was decide to stop doing business with him completely (for whatever reason).
Rush? Wow. This is the first time I've actually defended "the powerful". Personally I don't like PayPal. After this stunt, I will not be using them.
I do defend their right to do business with whomever they wish (and not to do business with whomever they wish). That's all my support is for. The law they used is retarded and ineffective and was just an excuse to make life harder for John. If you go to Cryptome's site, you can see he isn't crying over this and neither should we. OTOH, we should take our e-payment business elsewhere.
I'm not saying you don't. I'm calling them on it, too. I am refusing to do any further business with them. This is a very stupid stunt on their part, but they are legally entitled to do this stunt (rtfa and the saga on Cryptome's site). Does that make it right? No. The law is retarded and is known to be subverted. Does PayPal have the right to do this? Yes. It sucks, and I wish John was able to get those donations to help him with the costs for the site, but it doesn't change the fact that PayPal has a right to do business with whomever they want (or not do business with whomever they don't want).
I should have been clearer. I support their right to make this decision, and, if they were a federally regulated bank, they could have done the exact same thing. Read the info on Cryptome's site.
I for one support PayPal's decision, not because I don't like Cryptome, but because they are a private business making a decision that the feel suits them best.
Probably not, though lately I'm not entirely convinced the current structure of the education system in at least the U.S. (the only one I have any experience or knowledge about) really prepares anyone to be anything but sheeple, but that is really besides the point.
We could continue the Constellation project - or sell out to private companies - and quit letting the government take over health care.
Since neither will happen, not sure what else we can do. We've lost our backbone for adventure as we've continued to reinforce the entitlement mentality that is draining our country dry of resources.
Of course it's unrealistic in America! That would require buying up all that dark fiber first of all (to make sure the backbone network can handle the increased speeds) and rolling out expensive FO cable to people who might not want to pay for it in the first place (personally, if my ISP rolled out Fiber-to-the-house I'd be buying a SCSI box and getting all the 1TB+ drives I could installed just so I could try and download everything I came across).
So I guess GTA (from original on up) should cause you to have to do time for grand theft of an automobile, drug dealing and cop killing? Absolute balderdash.
I just want to say that not only do we not recognize the ICC, we shouldn't recognize them. They are not part of our Constitutional form of government. Nor is the World Bank, the IMF, or the UN. No country should allow a foreign power (which the UN and it's related agencies are) to dictate internal policy. Yes, it is that simple, even if you don't want to admit that.
Really? Is that why every European nation with national healthcare sees a DEFICIT (France's is 2b annually) in their budgets due to health care? Get a grip.
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Thank you, though I think my karma will suffer from this discussion. lol
What a laughable comparison.
If you had read about the saga on Cryptome, you would learn that if John had waited the six months, he would have had those funds dispersed to him. Instead, he chose to refund those who donated and cease doing business with Paypal.
All PayPal did was decide to stop doing business with him completely (for whatever reason).
Rush? Wow. This is the first time I've actually defended "the powerful". Personally I don't like PayPal. After this stunt, I will not be using them.
I do defend their right to do business with whomever they wish (and not to do business with whomever they wish). That's all my support is for. The law they used is retarded and ineffective and was just an excuse to make life harder for John. If you go to Cryptome's site, you can see he isn't crying over this and neither should we. OTOH, we should take our e-payment business elsewhere.
I'm not saying you don't. I'm calling them on it, too. I am refusing to do any further business with them. This is a very stupid stunt on their part, but they are legally entitled to do this stunt (rtfa and the saga on Cryptome's site). Does that make it right? No. The law is retarded and is known to be subverted. Does PayPal have the right to do this? Yes. It sucks, and I wish John was able to get those donations to help him with the costs for the site, but it doesn't change the fact that PayPal has a right to do business with whomever they want (or not do business with whomever they don't want).
Your choice.
And if you moderate based on what's in a sig, you don't need to have mod points to start with.
I have no affiliation with PayPal.
I should have been clearer. I support their right to make this decision, and, if they were a federally regulated bank, they could have done the exact same thing. Read the info on Cryptome's site.
I for one support PayPal's decision, not because I don't like Cryptome, but because they are a private business making a decision that the feel suits them best.
Don't you love the government?
Probably not, though lately I'm not entirely convinced the current structure of the education system in at least the U.S. (the only one I have any experience or knowledge about) really prepares anyone to be anything but sheeple, but that is really besides the point.
Kudo's to Apple either way.
And typos. The second 16 yr old should be 15 yr old.
The meaningful punishment is the loss of Apple's business (which would be quite significant).
Here in TN, with parental consent forms signed, you can work at McDonald's at age 15+ (16+ w/o such a form).
What makes a 16 yr old any more responsible then a 16 yr old is beyond me, though.
Let me fix that for you.
All better. (:
I'd buy it.
We could continue the Constellation project - or sell out to private companies - and quit letting the government take over health care.
Since neither will happen, not sure what else we can do. We've lost our backbone for adventure as we've continued to reinforce the entitlement mentality that is draining our country dry of resources.
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Of course it's unrealistic in America! That would require buying up all that dark fiber first of all (to make sure the backbone network can handle the increased speeds) and rolling out expensive FO cable to people who might not want to pay for it in the first place (personally, if my ISP rolled out Fiber-to-the-house I'd be buying a SCSI box and getting all the 1TB+ drives I could installed just so I could try and download everything I came across).
Most Ozzies I know (especially the non-native transplants) seem to love their government. I've yet to figure out why.
So I guess GTA (from original on up) should cause you to have to do time for grand theft of an automobile, drug dealing and cop killing? Absolute balderdash.
And yet you cannot dispute that NHS schemes are in the red all throughout Europe. They are costing more money then they are saving.
Go Strat! If I had mod points I'd give them all to you!
I just want to say that not only do we not recognize the ICC, we shouldn't recognize them. They are not part of our Constitutional form of government. Nor is the World Bank, the IMF, or the UN. No country should allow a foreign power (which the UN and it's related agencies are) to dictate internal policy. Yes, it is that simple, even if you don't want to admit that.
Really? Is that why every European nation with national healthcare sees a DEFICIT (France's is 2b annually) in their budgets due to health care? Get a grip.
Having been laid by beautiful women numerous times, I beg to differ.