Okay, now you're making sense. They should send more teachers (specifically those teaching the sciences, (including music teachers, I'd love to know how brass, woodwind, and string instruments are affected by weightlessness)) as it would reduce the cost. But sending anyone into space, teacher or not, is expensive. So what if the current astronauts are former pilots or army grunts or whatever. It costs the same to send them up as it does to send up one teacher.
I think the cost is worth ANY amount of kids getting a better education, especially with k-12 education as shabby as it is now a days. I can honestly say that all my high school education provided me was a lot of choices of professions without the skills needed to make it in college (not that the college I first choose was any better, but it was a private college).
I'm sorry if you don't get it. I've already explained my view once.
From my other comment in this thread:
" In high school, the only English teacher I could relate too was Ms. Melba Clarke. Why could I relate to her? She taught literature, could speak a bit of Gaelic and Old English, and when we were learning about William Shakespeare and the language he used in his plays, she could relate stories to us from when she was in England.
Same with my college Trigonometery(sp) professor, Mr. Hammesfar(sp (been several years since I've had to remember how to spell his name)). He was a former Navy seaman aboard a ship involved in some of the Bikini Atoll experiments. Because he could relate his experience using trig in real life (as it related to Electronics Engineering, my former (and uncompleted) major), for the first time ever I passed a math class with a 3.4 GPA (and he was NOT an easy teacher by any means).
While the experience itself might not make one more qualified in the traditional sense, it gives the educator a real life frame of refrence to help students become more interested in learning."
In short it provides "this is how it's used in the real world" view that students can respect. If you can't understand that, I'm sorry that caffiene has destroyed your last brain cell.
So slash a potentially USEFUL program (see my response to an earlier fork in this thread) in order to pay off national deficit? How about we limit politicians and federal employee's to a MAXIMUM income of $80,000 (only raisable by a vote of the American people, after all, they DO work for us, why is that they get to determine their OWN raise, seems backwards to me)? That would save a LOT of money in taxes that could be used to pay off the national deficit as well as continuing to pay for such wonderful programs as the Teacher In Space.
In high school, the only English teacher I could relate too was Ms. Melba Clarke. Why could I relate to her? She taught literature, could speak a bit of Gaelic and Old English, and when we were learning about William Shakespeare and the language he used in his plays, she could relate stories to us from when she was in England.
Same with my college Trigonometery(sp) professor, Mr. Hammesfar(sp (been several years since I've had to remember how to spell his name)). He was a former Navy seaman aboard a ship involved in some of the Bikini Atoll experiments. Because he could relate his experience using trig in real life (as it related to Electronics Engineering, my former (and uncompleted) major), for the first time ever I passed a math class with a 3.4 GPA (and he was NOT an easy teacher by any means).
While the experience itself might not make one more qualified in the traditional sense, it gives the educator a real life frame of refrence to help students become more interested in learning.
The above isn't the case, though. Not only are they trying to enforce a patent YEARS after it was issued (a patent which they bought, btw, so it took no work on SCO's part to create the code/process in question), but they are violationg the GPL.
This is nothing more then a money grab, similar to what MS is doing to local governments, schools, and libraries across the country.
I am really disappointed that they waited this long in the first place, but I'm also glad they are moving forward with this. Perhaps they have the balls to put a teacher on the moon (or even Mars) in the near future.
I for one would LOVE to have my kid taught about space by someone who's actually BEEN there, you know what I mean?
So then, NASA doesn't look so bad considering the lack of competition. This is bad as nothing sparks Americans to do great things like being challenged. For God's sake, somebody give us some competition outside of doing things cheap! I want a moon base!
I'd rather have a Mars base, but I understand what you're saying. The only reason we landed on the moon when we did was so we can say we did it before the Russians (who orbited the first satellite, animal and man).
Tear me a new rectum? I said 2WD SUV's were a waste, indicating that I didn't think that their gas mileage was much better then 4WD SUV's. I made no comment about their ability to do anything such as peel across mud or what not. Get your facts straight and learn to read proper english before tearing into someone for something they didn't say.
I'll take your word for it, as I'm not that up2date on SUV tech, but even with the better mileage of 2WD, if I'm getting something that big, I'm going all out and getting a Hummer. 45 degree angles, can drive under 8 feet of water. That's just too cool.
But seriously. Whether or not SBC owns the patent, it's a LUDICROUS patent to begin with! It's the equivelant of trying to patent the invention of paper (which the Egyptians and Chinese have prior art on).
So SBC can suck me and suck me hard. If I recieve a bill I'm just gonna shred it.
This is true, there are different species of e. coli (including the one that lives in our intestines). Lets just hope some mad man dictator doesn't get a hold of the process and start creating a new generation of biological weapons.
Actually, according to the article yes CERN had tried, but they stopped just short of making claims that they had indeed done so, although they are expected to resume when their newest toy is fully installed.
This opens up a LOT of possibilities. If we can engineer e. coli to produce an amino acid not found in nature, imagine the applications (e.g. instead of e. coli being dangerous, it can be rendered harmless or made to produce vitamins, etc.). The possibilities for good are staggering, but so is the possibility for using it for evil purposes (helping the spread of disease instead of stopping the spread).
Depends on your definition of "death". Most scientists agree that the universe will never contract (although some disagree, which is okay, because when it comes down to it, we won't be around if the latter happens, and if the former happens, well, who knows), but will just keep expanding. I wonder if there's enough matter to fill an infinite universe.
Also, if our universe that we know started out as a black hole (someone posted some formulas and stuff in another thread), wouldn't it be safe to surmise that all black holes create a new universe?
"Yes, affirmative action taken to the quota extreme simply turns into reverse racisim; you're specifically being hired or not hired because of your race/gender/other criteria, rather than merit/skill/need."
Affirmitive action by it's very definition and enforcement across the boards IS reverse racism. Not just in some cases, but in all.
What I do see, especially in recent years, are feminists (not all feminists are women, and not all women are feminists) demanding that standards be lowered for women so they can get the same job. That is the wrong way to go about it. True equality comes when one is hired because of ability, not because of one's gender or race. As I've said in a previous post, I hire on ability and ability alone. If you aren't cut out for the job, YOU WILL NOT get hired, the government be damned.
There are no benefits to it other then to keep perfectly qualified individuals from getting a job based on gender or race. I don't care what the government says, I'm not going to hire someone because of their gender. I'm going to hire them based on ability alone.
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Okay, now you're making sense. They should send more teachers (specifically those teaching the sciences, (including music teachers, I'd love to know how brass, woodwind, and string instruments are affected by weightlessness)) as it would reduce the cost. But sending anyone into space, teacher or not, is expensive. So what if the current astronauts are former pilots or army grunts or whatever. It costs the same to send them up as it does to send up one teacher.
I think the cost is worth ANY amount of kids getting a better education, especially with k-12 education as shabby as it is now a days. I can honestly say that all my high school education provided me was a lot of choices of professions without the skills needed to make it in college (not that the college I first choose was any better, but it was a private college).
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I clicked your sig and lo and behold! OMFG OMFG!! *dies*
I'm sorry if you don't get it. I've already explained my view once.
From my other comment in this thread:
" In high school, the only English teacher I could relate too was Ms. Melba Clarke. Why could I relate to her? She taught literature, could speak a bit of Gaelic and Old English, and when we were learning about William Shakespeare and the language he used in his plays, she could relate stories to us from when she was in England.
Same with my college Trigonometery(sp) professor, Mr. Hammesfar(sp (been several years since I've had to remember how to spell his name)). He was a former Navy seaman aboard a ship involved in some of the Bikini Atoll experiments. Because he could relate his experience using trig in real life (as it related to Electronics Engineering, my former (and uncompleted) major), for the first time ever I passed a math class with a 3.4 GPA (and he was NOT an easy teacher by any means).
While the experience itself might not make one more qualified in the traditional sense, it gives the educator a real life frame of refrence to help students become more interested in learning."
In short it provides "this is how it's used in the real world" view that students can respect. If you can't understand that, I'm sorry that caffiene has destroyed your last brain cell.
random schlubs into space just because they want to.
That's the way the Russians do it (remember Lance Bass, he's a random schlub that was sent into space 'cause he wanted to).
Sending teachers is 1000000000 times more beneficial then sending some teen pop rocker.
If I was aware of the agreement and the new owners didn't wait 15 years and then ask me to pay 15 years of back fee's for using it.
So slash a potentially USEFUL program (see my response to an earlier fork in this thread) in order to pay off national deficit? How about we limit politicians and federal employee's to a MAXIMUM income of $80,000 (only raisable by a vote of the American people, after all, they DO work for us, why is that they get to determine their OWN raise, seems backwards to me)? That would save a LOT of money in taxes that could be used to pay off the national deficit as well as continuing to pay for such wonderful programs as the Teacher In Space.
In high school, the only English teacher I could relate too was Ms. Melba Clarke. Why could I relate to her? She taught literature, could speak a bit of Gaelic and Old English, and when we were learning about William Shakespeare and the language he used in his plays, she could relate stories to us from when she was in England.
Same with my college Trigonometery(sp) professor, Mr. Hammesfar(sp (been several years since I've had to remember how to spell his name)). He was a former Navy seaman aboard a ship involved in some of the Bikini Atoll experiments. Because he could relate his experience using trig in real life (as it related to Electronics Engineering, my former (and uncompleted) major), for the first time ever I passed a math class with a 3.4 GPA (and he was NOT an easy teacher by any means).
While the experience itself might not make one more qualified in the traditional sense, it gives the educator a real life frame of refrence to help students become more interested in learning.
The above isn't the case, though. Not only are they trying to enforce a patent YEARS after it was issued (a patent which they bought, btw, so it took no work on SCO's part to create the code/process in question), but they are violationg the GPL.
This is nothing more then a money grab, similar to what MS is doing to local governments, schools, and libraries across the country.
That should have told SCO something right then and there. ;-)
I am really disappointed that they waited this long in the first place, but I'm also glad they are moving forward with this. Perhaps they have the balls to put a teacher on the moon (or even Mars) in the near future.
I for one would LOVE to have my kid taught about space by someone who's actually BEEN there, you know what I mean?
So then, NASA doesn't look so bad considering the lack of competition. This is bad as nothing sparks Americans to do great things like being challenged. For God's sake, somebody give us some competition outside of doing things cheap! I want a moon base!
I'd rather have a Mars base, but I understand what you're saying. The only reason we landed on the moon when we did was so we can say we did it before the Russians (who orbited the first satellite, animal and man).
Tear me a new rectum? I said 2WD SUV's were a waste, indicating that I didn't think that their gas mileage was much better then 4WD SUV's. I made no comment about their ability to do anything such as peel across mud or what not. Get your facts straight and learn to read proper english before tearing into someone for something they didn't say.
I'll take your word for it, as I'm not that up2date on SUV tech, but even with the better mileage of 2WD, if I'm getting something that big, I'm going all out and getting a Hummer. 45 degree angles, can drive under 8 feet of water. That's just too cool.
A 2WD SUV. Now THAT's waste.
Actually, pre-DMCA copyright laws allowed you to make a permanent back up for your private use of any copyrighted work you buy, it's called Fair Use.
Of course the DMCA has pretty much shot THAT to hell.
The html frames you!
But seriously. Whether or not SBC owns the patent, it's a LUDICROUS patent to begin with! It's the equivelant of trying to patent the invention of paper (which the Egyptians and Chinese have prior art on).
So SBC can suck me and suck me hard. If I recieve a bill I'm just gonna shred it.
Most of the time I type in whitehouse.com it comes up as a pr0n site. O.O
This is true, there are different species of e. coli (including the one that lives in our intestines). Lets just hope some mad man dictator doesn't get a hold of the process and start creating a new generation of biological weapons.
Actually, according to the article yes CERN had tried, but they stopped just short of making claims that they had indeed done so, although they are expected to resume when their newest toy is fully installed.
This opens up a LOT of possibilities. If we can engineer e. coli to produce an amino acid not found in nature, imagine the applications (e.g. instead of e. coli being dangerous, it can be rendered harmless or made to produce vitamins, etc.). The possibilities for good are staggering, but so is the possibility for using it for evil purposes (helping the spread of disease instead of stopping the spread).
Depends on your definition of "death". Most scientists agree that the universe will never contract (although some disagree, which is okay, because when it comes down to it, we won't be around if the latter happens, and if the former happens, well, who knows), but will just keep expanding. I wonder if there's enough matter to fill an infinite universe.
Also, if our universe that we know started out as a black hole (someone posted some formulas and stuff in another thread), wouldn't it be safe to surmise that all black holes create a new universe?
"Yes, affirmative action taken to the quota extreme simply turns into reverse racisim; you're specifically being hired or not hired because of your race/gender/other criteria, rather than merit/skill/need."
Affirmitive action by it's very definition and enforcement across the boards IS reverse racism. Not just in some cases, but in all.
What I do see, especially in recent years, are feminists (not all feminists are women, and not all women are feminists) demanding that standards be lowered for women so they can get the same job. That is the wrong way to go about it. True equality comes when one is hired because of ability, not because of one's gender or race. As I've said in a previous post, I hire on ability and ability alone. If you aren't cut out for the job, YOU WILL NOT get hired, the government be damned.
There are no benefits to it other then to keep perfectly qualified individuals from getting a job based on gender or race. I don't care what the government says, I'm not going to hire someone because of their gender. I'm going to hire them based on ability alone.
Flamebait? I wonder if the moderators are feminists.