If you happen to be a customer of a company that is disallowing vpn connections, just have the company you work for change the port that accepts vpn connections. Sure, your isp will see some kind of communication going on with some strange port, but the conversation is encrypted. They won't be able to prove anything.
But they always seem to overlook that inescapable fact of probability - if you look at ANYTHING on a large enough scale, you'll begin to see some order.
But that's not really what emergence is. Emergence is large scale behavior that is not built into the small scale rules. Traffic, for instance, is an emergent behavior. There is nothing in the descrption of a single car driving around that makes traffic necessary. However, certain conditions will invariably lead to it's development.
Emergence is nested all the way down, in every physical system. Society is emergent from individual behavior. Individual behavior is emergent from biology. Biology is emergent from chemistry. Chemistry is emergent from physics. Physics may be emergent from the fundamental law of the universe. I might just have to buy this book.:)
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The emergent behavior is that if a single ant finds a food source, the entire hive will be alerted to the fact and find a very short route to the food, all using only simple chemical markers.
1. Incorrect. Godel's proof applies to any system that is capable of self-reference.
2. Godel's proof says that either it is impossible to prove every true statement or that some statements are both true and false.
3. Godel's proof works for any formal system of logic that is recursive. If we accept that math is a result of the laws of our universe, we have to accept that godel's proof is also.
Shows how much these people really value creativity, doesn't it ?
More than money, perhaps?
One could make the same argument for any occupation that's enjoyable. Why should we pay academics, computer programmers and doctors ? If these people aren't doing it for love, perhaps they shouldn't be doing it. Perhaps we should only pay people who do unpleasent work, such as garbage collectors.
Basically anyone is willing to pay for a doctor at some time, nobody is going to argue that their services don't have intrinsic value. Academics could generally make a lot more in the private sector, so they usually are doing it because they like it (or because the want to work in the private sector). As a programmer, I do 'do it for love'. The fact that I am paid for the work is just an excellent bonus. If I didn't get paid, I would still program, I'd just have to find some other way of making money.
The proposition that people in occupations where someone who is genuinely interested in their job is more likely to succeed or occupations that are considered "fun" should not be rewarded is not only ludicrous, it is in complete opposition to the principles our economic systems are founded upon.
I am certainly not saying that a person shouldn't be able to make money doing something they love, but if you are doing something strictly because you can make a lot of money at it, your whining about the fact that you can no longer wipe your ass with dollar bills is extremely shallow.
Search for the movie 'Memento' on Kazaa, and make sure you have about 700 megs free. This is one of the best rips I've ever seen. Not quite to DVD quality yet, but definitely better than VHS.
The last time I heard anything I'd describe as "alternative" on the radio was about 5 years ago. There aren't any "alternative" format stations in Cleveland now.
Comeon, dude! Cleveland Rocks!
Just kidding. The only time I can even stand to turn on the radion around here is for the talk stations. Cleveland is a cultural wasteland.
The real issue here is, how should authors of creative works be compensated ?
Actually, I think the real issue is, should the authors of creative works be compensated at all? The concensus appears to be 'no'. So either you will create art because you love it, or you won't create art at all.
Oh, comeon! The inflationary pressure in our own universe could be the result of the matter falling into a black hole in another universe, with time running in reverse (from the perspective of the 'outside' universe) because the infalling matter actually exceeds the relative speed of light (once again, to the 'outside' universe). You gotta have some imagination with this stuff.:)
Ashcroft disgusts me more than any other single person in this whole situation. He is the one who is taking advantage of America's panic in order to get his blatantly anti-constitution legislation rammed through. Has he ever even picked up a copy of the document he was sworn to uphold?
A friend of mine who runs windows has this game, and it seems pretty cool, if not occasionally buggy. Looking throught their list of supported games, it doesn't look like it works at all though. Too bad. I would probably pay for this if they could get that particular one to work.
You can do what I do and write software for someone that fulfills a specific need, like any other profession does. You are hired to write software that currently doesn't exist - you are selling your abilities instead of some canned program. This is really one of the few models that I can see working for any amount of time because eventually, all 'commercial' software will be replacable with a free alternative. The only market will be in specialization.
If you want to be paid, and are able to convince someone to pay you, good for you. Some of us code because we truly enjoy it, whether or not we can make a living at it. The fact that we generally can make money at it is just a very nice side effect.:)
Funny that you mention that. The place I work has an 'employee giving campaign' and a list of charities that they consider 'acceptable'. After I looked through the list and didn't find the EFF, I wrote it in for a $20 a month contribution. Surprisingly, I received a notification that my contribution would start in January without any problem at all. Extra cool, since they match any donation by 15%.:)
It did seem to go down there for a little while. However, I have noticed quite a bit more sneaking through lately. Could they be selling the ability to bypass the filters? Nah Microsoft would never do something like that.
Hey Bruce. Are you famous enough that you can walk into a bar and pick up a chick simply because she recognizes you, or do you have to struggle for poon like the rest of us? Just wondering.
Hardly a good comparison. The only way that you would know if you were missing some feeling during sex was if you had the circumcision as an adult, after you had already been having sex. There is really no more justification for male circumcision than female. They are both just cultural practices, and the US is the only country where we regularly mutilate our male children for no good reason. I, for one, wouldn't mind having an extra inch of skin on my penis...
Because we like having *access* to information. When someone breaks the GPL, they are removing our access to that information. Since pretty much all copyright is about restricting access to information, a lot of us don't like it, even in principle.
Did you read the article referenced at the top? The problem isn't with programmers, but with the math that underlies all programming. If you have to develop an entirely new system, you can run into a version of the halting problem - that you cannot accurately know ahead of time how long it will take to transform your concept into a functional program.
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If you happen to be a customer of a company that is disallowing vpn connections, just have the company you work for change the port that accepts vpn connections. Sure, your isp will see some kind of communication going on with some strange port, but the conversation is encrypted. They won't be able to prove anything.
But that's not really what emergence is. Emergence is large scale behavior that is not built into the small scale rules. Traffic, for instance, is an emergent behavior. There is nothing in the descrption of a single car driving around that makes traffic necessary. However, certain conditions will invariably lead to it's development.
Emergence is nested all the way down, in every physical system. Society is emergent from individual behavior. Individual behavior is emergent from biology. Biology is emergent from chemistry. Chemistry is emergent from physics. Physics may be emergent from the fundamental law of the universe. I might just have to buy this book.
The emergent behavior is that if a single ant finds a food source, the entire hive will be alerted to the fact and find a very short route to the food, all using only simple chemical markers.
1. Incorrect. Godel's proof applies to any system that is capable of self-reference.
2. Godel's proof says that either it is impossible to prove every true statement or that some statements are both true and false.
3. Godel's proof works for any formal system of logic that is recursive. If we accept that math is a result of the laws of our universe, we have to accept that godel's proof is also.
More than money, perhaps?
Basically anyone is willing to pay for a doctor at some time, nobody is going to argue that their services don't have intrinsic value. Academics could generally make a lot more in the private sector, so they usually are doing it because they like it (or because the want to work in the private sector). As a programmer, I do 'do it for love'. The fact that I am paid for the work is just an excellent bonus. If I didn't get paid, I would still program, I'd just have to find some other way of making money.
I am certainly not saying that a person shouldn't be able to make money doing something they love, but if you are doing something strictly because you can make a lot of money at it, your whining about the fact that you can no longer wipe your ass with dollar bills is extremely shallow.
Nobody is stopping someone from making their own 'extensions' to the GPL, they are just not certifying them as 'open source'.
Search for the movie 'Memento' on Kazaa, and make sure you have about 700 megs free. This is one of the best rips I've ever seen. Not quite to DVD quality yet, but definitely better than VHS.
Comeon, dude! Cleveland Rocks!
Just kidding. The only time I can even stand to turn on the radion around here is for the talk stations. Cleveland is a cultural wasteland.
Actually, I think the real issue is, should the authors of creative works be compensated at all? The concensus appears to be 'no'. So either you will create art because you love it, or you won't create art at all.
Oh, comeon! The inflationary pressure in our own universe could be the result of the matter falling into a black hole in another universe, with time running in reverse (from the perspective of the 'outside' universe) because the infalling matter actually exceeds the relative speed of light (once again, to the 'outside' universe). You gotta have some imagination with this stuff. :)
Ashcroft disgusts me more than any other single person in this whole situation. He is the one who is taking advantage of America's panic in order to get his blatantly anti-constitution legislation rammed through. Has he ever even picked up a copy of the document he was sworn to uphold?
Are there any laws against walking around with a mask on in these areas?
A friend of mine who runs windows has this game, and it seems pretty cool, if not occasionally buggy. Looking throught their list of supported games, it doesn't look like it works at all though. Too bad. I would probably pay for this if they could get that particular one to work.
You can do what I do and write software for someone that fulfills a specific need, like any other profession does. You are hired to write software that currently doesn't exist - you are selling your abilities instead of some canned program. This is really one of the few models that I can see working for any amount of time because eventually, all 'commercial' software will be replacable with a free alternative. The only market will be in specialization.
If you want to be paid, and are able to convince someone to pay you, good for you. Some of us code because we truly enjoy it, whether or not we can make a living at it. The fact that we generally can make money at it is just a very nice side effect. :)
Funny that you mention that. The place I work has an 'employee giving campaign' and a list of charities that they consider 'acceptable'. After I looked through the list and didn't find the EFF, I wrote it in for a $20 a month contribution. Surprisingly, I received a notification that my contribution would start in January without any problem at all. Extra cool, since they match any donation by 15%. :)
Only if you are a deluded audiophile.
You mean except for the audible watermark, right?
And let me put it this way: If you've never been moved by a beautiful piece of code, you're no programmer.
It did seem to go down there for a little while. However, I have noticed quite a bit more sneaking through lately. Could they be selling the ability to bypass the filters? Nah Microsoft would never do something like that.
Hey Bruce. Are you famous enough that you can walk into a bar and pick up a chick simply because she recognizes you, or do you have to struggle for poon like the rest of us? Just wondering.
Hardly a good comparison. The only way that you would know if you were missing some feeling during sex was if you had the circumcision as an adult, after you had already been having sex. There is really no more justification for male circumcision than female. They are both just cultural practices, and the US is the only country where we regularly mutilate our male children for no good reason. I, for one, wouldn't mind having an extra inch of skin on my penis...
Then don't be surprised when we get a copy of your proprietary program and give start sharing it with all of our friends on FastTrack.
Because we like having *access* to information. When someone breaks the GPL, they are removing our access to that information. Since pretty much all copyright is about restricting access to information, a lot of us don't like it, even in principle.
Did you read the article referenced at the top? The problem isn't with programmers, but with the math that underlies all programming. If you have to develop an entirely new system, you can run into a version of the halting problem - that you cannot accurately know ahead of time how long it will take to transform your concept into a functional program.