All I have is anectdotal experience, but BeOS is slick slick McSlick. Unfortunately, I got stuck with a Viper iii video card, which isn't supported by Be directly, but I can run it in VESA compat mode, and it was still remarkably smooth. It can reach out and touch the winmodem, and can mount all of my dos partitions, etc. etc. Unfortunatly, I d/l'd the personal version, so I didn't get a chance to play with a lot of the development stuff, but for a user experience, Be is rocking.
if this pans out, Napster's got problems... I guess the lesson here is to always present a united front, and once you've got a position, don't talk to anything but that position, ever, in any form. BillG got nailed that way, now Napster.
This is insane. If we're Shadowrunners, I want to be an insect shaman... Nobody's a shadowrunner, Jon, no more than anyone's a high elf mage. Nobody I know has physically broken into a megacorp's (they don't exist on Shadowrun's level, even...) datacenter, killed a bunch of guards, and hacked into an node off a "real world" representation of data and programs. I think you like the way "shadowrun" sounds, and that's about it. What kind of research did you do into this article? While you're rambling about the "eerie parallels" in SR, why not mention the reemergence of raw magic, elves, orks and dragons? Wait, there is none! This is a painful article. I think Timothy's "No Logo: Taking Aim At The Brand Bullies" article take on a similar issue, with less hyperbole. I'm dropping you, Jon.
What he's saying is, making a particular pattern for a blouse, or a print for a T shirt, is not protectable under US law (other countries? who knows?), but since you've got trademark on the name of your company, putting just the name of the company (perhaps with a simple geometric design) on $CLOTHING is far more protectable than making a pattern sans name. OK?
that's true, but the digest has this little nugget:
You may already have stumbled across this little surprise on your system. I found it apparently bundled in with other downloads I had made from RealNetworks.
What 'other downloads' does this include? I'm tired of hearing about how Real 'respects my privacy' but still does stuff like this. The privacy group they belong to shouuld revoke their membership and shoot them. At this point, I'm gonna flush real altogether and go pick up the real plugin from winamp.
It's sole purpose is to allow the free exchange of music over the internet, so it is designed to pirate music, making it illegal. There are absolutely no arguments supporting Napster, and the "online community" bull is just a transparent excuse to defend piracy
This is just mindboggling. You're either the devil's advocate, a troll, or a moron. I'm wavering between trying to craft some remarkably witty, intelligent reply, and flaming you for being an utter dumbfuck with an "if'n ye hain't wi' us, ye gainst us" mentality with your "free exchange=piracy" (and I'll use this next word loosely) "logic". The only songs I've got on Napster are the one's I've created. There's your fucking reason. Stay the fuck away from how I choose to share my music. Maybe you'd like to ban, oh, JPGs since I could scan an article from Time Magazine and post it on a web page without paying Time, or golly, you could ban the whole Web since anyone could scan and post articles and trade them, but then we'd still have those pesky FTP sites with leet mp3s and jpgs to shut down to preserve your brother's precious fucking T3 bandwidth. As an amature artist, I'm happy to use and endorse Napster as a LEGITIMATE means of distributing my music. And don't give me that "but you're a minority" crap, because I don't give a rat's ass as to what you expect most people to do, since most people couldn't find their asses with a map and a tour guide. In short, Napster has legitimate uses, much like the "evil" blank cassette tapes and blank VHS tapes that would bottom out the tape and video industries, even though that never happened.
Look for the part that deals with the collecting,organizing and editing previous works into a anthology. I think public forums are defined in section 101 or 102. There are some rather bizarre amendments to the law, but the it still seems to favor Slashdot. Alternately how about "Free speech as in: not on Slashdot, where you have to pay for it"?
If any of my comments are featured in that book of yours, then I'll definitly sue.
uh-huh. What are you going to sue for? Not Getting A Piece Of The Action?
I suggest you and all your pointy headed allies take a look at http://www.etext.org/Politics/Conspiracy/AJTeel/US C/17usc.txt. Specifically, the section under HOUSE REPORT NO. 94-1476
for more information. You can, of course, start looking elsewhere (online, even) to see what actual rights you have, rather than relying on your weak "Wah, wah, I've been victimized and I have no coping skills and despite the fact that I don't know the law from the flaming baby Jesus I'm going to sue" logic.
Look at the bottom of every Slashdot page and you will see "Comments are owned by the Poster." And this has been there since long before the hellmouth threads began.
If anyone's ever believed that disclaimer was for anything other than removing/.'s cuplability, they're idiots. Are you going to sue me because I'm quoting you? This has never been anything besides a public forum, and if you think otherwise, you're delusional. There's no secret password to log on, no secret handshake, nothing. Besides, how can we take your "complaint" seriously when your nickname is so close to CmdrTaco's? Maybe he should sue you; that space can't be enough to protect you from litigation.
I've read in PCComputing that the Dreamcast Internet browser looks like crap. Bad res, hard to use, etc.
DC's web browser is mediocre if you've got a keyboard, but look out if you don't. Moving the cursor around the virtual keyboard is way too slow to be useful.
As for the net enabled app (Chu chu rocket) imagine every idiot you've had the misfortune of meeting in IRC, and try to play a game with them. It's awful, and I've never completed a full game online because people will disconnect to prevent their ratings from dropping. Eternal september is like a vague rememberance of heaven compared to the Chu Chu Lobby.:/
I've learned some studying for these tests, but after using NT, 95, VC++, VB, IIS, etc for years, I was hoping it'd be a walk in the park. Instead, I get tested on the stupidest shit you can imagine just because they need to ask the questions on SOMETHING.
Aaaah, the "party line " questions I've heard of. Something like : What's the best way to access FooDataBase? 1) Using DAO 2) Using ADO 3) Using RDO 4) Using a driver loving handcrafted by FooDataBaseWare programmers in C++ and Assembler, regression tested to the Nth degree and certified by a board of software engineers, Don Knuth and, uh, that guy who wrote perl
Answer 2). ADO is Microsoft's newest database technology.
I don't regret my choice, I think it will do nice things for my potential sallary, but as a new MCSE, MCDBA and next week a mcsd, the letters don't mean much except for a few extra $$ while negotiating the contract.
Nodnod. That's all I want out of the deal.
on the other hand, I really get peved when people assume I'm an MCSE so I a)Love MS and b)Am and idiot.
Nodnod. I've irritated all of the Linux zealots here by saying "You want to do it with Perl on a Redhat box? Thank God; that's one less thing I have to be involved in. What? No, no argument here..."
I was configuring TCP/IP on Linux when you were just a pup! getouttahere!
Bah on yeh fancy software. We can do the entire thing with this capacitor, some solder and a potato! There's no need for some buggy *software* boy-o!
This just happens to be what I make money doing.
yep. It's a job, not life.
back on topic:
Oh, and the mcsd tests don't tend to expire as quickly as the others. More useful, too.
Yeah, we're deluged with MCSEs right now. But there's only 1 MCSD in the company. Someone's gotta write the apps:)
Why do you want this piece of paper? If you have the experience in these programming language, then it really isn't necessary for your resume. If you think it will teach you something about these languages, then you are sadly mistaken.
There are a few reasons, most involve the company I work for -- they'll pay for it, and there are certain jobs that open up only if you have certification or a degree. I made the same complaint : cert!= good programmer. Their argument was pretty simple, and hard to argue with : Just like you wouldn't hire a plubmer that's not bonded,insured and licensed, WE'RE not going to hire programmers that aren't. Go fig.
From watching people first study & take CNA/CNE certs, & now MCS* ones,
CNE. heh, heh. Wouldn't it be ironic to see a big surge for CNE people in 3 decades, like COBOL programmers for Y2K?
I suspect many people have this expectation that they will learn something about how the Windows OS works.
That depends on how you go about studying for the test. I've seen some pass the MCSE test by luck, or memorization, get whisked off to the server room, and then have to deal with the pain their cluelessness causes. I've seen smart people study and get better jobs because they deserve it. This is just like anything else -- you CAN bullshit your way through it if you try.
Something that will head off the usual countless hours of trial-and-error testing to determine what is actually happening behind the GUI & amongst the poorly-documented registry & the swamp of dll's -- or at least give them a clue about what is important to know about Windows.
Again I think it depends. Right now, I'm focused in on an incredibly specific database-related program -- I couldn't implement my own networking controls (something that wouldn't break appropriate RFCs) if I wanted to. You may be the zen master of debugging and error handling, but not know dick about interface, etc.
Unfortunately it does not work -- at least in this case. This is another example of Microsoft treating its ``partners" shabbily.
Wit all comes down to it, I agree. I love the environment, I love the languages, but yes, we're getting screwed.:(
Here's a summary of MS' reply. "Rather than answering your question, we'll reiterate that we're forcing the cert. change. Despite the numerous complaints you, as current MSCEs, have logged, we'll try to tell you that this is being requested by our customers."
Crap. I use Visual Basic and C++, and wanted to get my MCSD, but now, I don't know if it's worthwhile. When they upgrade one of them, will they expire those certs immediately? I'm not spending 3k-6k for training and testing only to do it yearly! You go to hell, MS. You go to hell and you die!
speak for yourself. I, for example, don't need to manage my calendar and all the phone numbers I need fit in my watch. I *do* want to play MP3s and watch movies. If only there was a decent OS for hardware like Casio's...
Well, since the crusoe's x86 compatable, why not wangle BeOS onto the thing? Since it is the "multimedia OS" and all. hm. cross this with the recent press release from Be : Conspiracy or Good Timing?
Thank you for your contribution. If you don't like my posts, don't read them and quit whining. That argument sound familiar? Bunch of crap when you stop to think about it, no?
I'd pay cash money for an "ignore this user" option. Esp. after reading your comments.
ATI just really REALLY blows chunks, IMO. They've got the goofiest named video cards and ads and keep releasing junk with extra features that no one really needs. I think of them as a budget Matrox. Maybe if this card is 'all that' then they might improve their rep a bit.
ATI Rage Maxx Wifebeater ATI Rage Maxx Road Warrior ATI Seething Anger Pro ATI Super Street Rage Alpha Hyper EX, Movie Edition. Etc. I had an ATI all-in-wonder pro AGP 32mb for a few days, and the 3d on it was OK, but the freakin' TV tuner hung my box whenever I used it. Supposedly a bad card, but the retailer didn't have a replacement, so I got a diamond *mumble* II. It's just to tide me over, though:) As for the card, it's OK, but per video chip/GPU, the geforce is the winner. The ATI board just managed to keep up with the low end Geforce with two high end ATI procs on it. It's still not as ludicrous as the new Voodoo cards -- Those things have external power supplies! Kicking the power strip can now bork over your video card in a Special Way. Whoever came up with that idea should be shot.
Re:This v2-os.. no protection.
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first, its NOT free. you dont get ALL the source. so its closed source. you get some example code and some binaries.
Eh. I don't subscribe to that particular dogma, so it doesn't lose anything for me. Course the project may be in the unstable first run, and there'll be a release once the code is cleaned up, etc.
second, it has NO memory protection. NONE! (if you read their forum, in development, one of the v2 guys confirmed the question). no memory protect, so your app can crash the kernel (sounds like a mac os or dos)... Having no memory protection means you have to give 100% trust to all your programs + programmers to do the correct thing. heh and we all know that means nothing in the real world.
I still can't get to the page (grumble), but if the object is to make the balls to the wall fastest OS around, having no memory protection makes a little sense -- code running in Ring 0 (Sort of like the admin mode of the x86 processor) runs faster than Ring 1,2, or 3, and maybe that's what they've done. Yes, the tradeoff for running Ring 0 is having to trust the programs to manage themselves and behave politely, etc. But, quite honestly, I think a decent C programmer combined with a decent C compiler should be able to make a well behaved program.
I don't think I'll quote the rest of your post, since it's pretty wishy washy -- who cares about it, but is nice, but this happens all the time, yadda, yadda. Seems like you're part of a tiny, jaded OS community. It'd be cool to have a New OS section on/., and it'd be nice to have it NOT be strange. As soon as I can get the page to load, I'll be willing to check it out, and maybe contribute something.
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You've posted 36 comments on this story alone! out of 563 (as I write) comments total, that's about 6 percent of the discussion. Good lord, man.
All I have is anectdotal experience, but BeOS is slick slick McSlick. Unfortunately, I got stuck with a Viper iii video card, which isn't supported by Be directly, but I can run it in VESA compat mode, and it was still remarkably smooth. It can reach out and touch the winmodem, and can mount all of my dos partitions, etc. etc. Unfortunatly, I d/l'd the personal version, so I didn't get a chance to play with a lot of the development stuff, but for a user experience, Be is rocking.
Richard Roundtree makes an appearance as "Uncle Shaft" from what I hear... Awesome.
if this pans out, Napster's got problems...
I guess the lesson here is to always present a united front, and once you've got a position, don't talk to anything but that position, ever, in any form. BillG got nailed that way, now Napster.
swweeeeet.
I want to file :
o a tort
o a class action suit
o personal injury
o a civil suit
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hmm.. yes... yes! must start work immediately.
This is insane. If we're Shadowrunners, I want to be an insect shaman...
Nobody's a shadowrunner, Jon, no more than anyone's a high elf mage. Nobody I know has physically broken into a megacorp's (they don't exist on Shadowrun's level, even...) datacenter, killed a bunch of guards, and hacked into an node off a "real world" representation of data and programs. I think you like the way "shadowrun" sounds, and that's about it. What kind of research did you do into this article? While you're rambling about the "eerie parallels" in SR, why not mention the reemergence of raw magic, elves, orks and dragons? Wait, there is none!
This is a painful article. I think Timothy's "No Logo: Taking Aim At The Brand Bullies" article take on a similar issue, with less hyperbole.
I'm dropping you, Jon.
What he's saying is, making a particular pattern for a blouse, or a print for a T shirt, is not protectable under US law (other countries? who knows?), but since you've got trademark on the name of your company, putting just the name of the company (perhaps with a simple geometric design) on $CLOTHING is far more protectable than making a pattern sans name. OK?
Time used to be that you could put score foo:bartastic in the subject, and it'd treat it like the real score.
Stripping it out was the 'answer'
Lars in a Suburban.
It's windows only, but...
Winamp plug in
What 'other downloads' does this include? I'm tired of hearing about how Real 'respects my privacy' but still does stuff like this. The privacy group they belong to shouuld revoke their membership and shoot them.
At this point, I'm gonna flush real altogether and go pick up the real plugin from winamp.
what about...
"CHA"
This is just mindboggling. You're either the devil's advocate, a troll, or a moron. I'm wavering between trying to craft some remarkably witty, intelligent reply, and flaming you for being an utter dumbfuck with an "if'n ye hain't wi' us, ye gainst us" mentality with your "free exchange=piracy" (and I'll use this next word loosely) "logic". The only songs I've got on Napster are the one's I've created. There's your fucking reason. Stay the fuck away from how I choose to share my music. Maybe you'd like to ban, oh, JPGs since I could scan an article from Time Magazine and post it on a web page without paying Time, or golly, you could ban the whole Web since anyone could scan and post articles and trade them, but then we'd still have those pesky FTP sites with leet mp3s and jpgs to shut down to preserve your brother's precious fucking T3 bandwidth. As an amature artist, I'm happy to use and endorse Napster as a LEGITIMATE means of distributing my music. And don't give me that "but you're a minority" crap, because I don't give a rat's ass as to what you expect most people to do, since most people couldn't find their asses with a map and a tour guide.
In short, Napster has legitimate uses, much like the "evil" blank cassette tapes and blank VHS tapes that would bottom out the tape and video industries, even though that never happened.
Look for the part that deals with the collecting,organizing and editing previous works into a anthology.
I think public forums are defined in section 101 or 102. There are some rather bizarre amendments to the law, but the it still seems to favor Slashdot.
Alternately how about "Free speech as in: not on Slashdot, where you have to pay for it"?
uh-huh. What are you going to sue for? Not Getting A Piece Of The Action?
I suggest you and all your pointy headed allies take a look at http://www.etext.org/Politics/Conspiracy/AJTeel/U
HOUSE REPORT NO. 94-1476
for more information. You can, of course, start looking elsewhere (online, even) to see what actual rights you have, rather than relying on your weak "Wah, wah, I've been victimized and I have no coping skills and despite the fact that I don't know the law from the flaming baby Jesus I'm going to sue" logic.
If anyone's ever believed that disclaimer was for anything other than removing
Are you going to sue me because I'm quoting you? This has never been anything besides a public forum, and if you think otherwise, you're delusional. There's no secret password to log on, no secret handshake, nothing.
Besides, how can we take your "complaint" seriously when your nickname is so close to CmdrTaco's? Maybe he should sue you; that space can't be enough to protect you from litigation.
DC's web browser is mediocre if you've got a keyboard, but look out if you don't. Moving the cursor around the virtual keyboard is way too slow to be useful.
As for the net enabled app (Chu chu rocket) imagine every idiot you've had the misfortune of meeting in IRC, and try to play a game with them. It's awful, and I've never completed a full game online because people will disconnect to prevent their ratings from dropping. Eternal september is like a vague rememberance of heaven compared to the Chu Chu Lobby.
Aaaah, the "party line " questions I've heard of.
Something like :
What's the best way to access FooDataBase?
1) Using DAO
2) Using ADO
3) Using RDO
4) Using a driver loving handcrafted by FooDataBaseWare programmers in C++ and Assembler, regression tested to the Nth degree and certified by a board of software engineers, Don Knuth and, uh, that guy who wrote perl
Answer 2). ADO is Microsoft's newest database technology.
Nodnod. That's all I want out of the deal.
Nodnod. I've irritated all of the Linux zealots here by saying "You want to do it with Perl on a Redhat box? Thank God; that's one less thing I have to be involved in. What? No, no argument here..."
Bah on yeh fancy software. We can do the entire thing with this capacitor, some solder and a potato! There's no need for some buggy *software* boy-o!
yep. It's a job, not life.
Yeah, we're deluged with MCSEs right now. But there's only 1 MCSD in the company. Someone's gotta write the apps
There are a few reasons, most involve the company I work for -- they'll pay for it, and there are certain jobs that open up only if you have certification or a degree. I made the same complaint : cert!= good programmer. Their argument was pretty simple, and hard to argue with : Just like you wouldn't hire a plubmer that's not bonded,insured and licensed, WE'RE not going to hire programmers that aren't. Go fig.
CNE. heh, heh. Wouldn't it be ironic to see a big surge for CNE people in 3 decades, like COBOL programmers for Y2K?
That depends on how you go about studying for the test. I've seen some pass the MCSE test by luck, or memorization, get whisked off to the server room, and then have to deal with the pain their cluelessness causes. I've seen smart people study and get better jobs because they deserve it. This is just like anything else -- you CAN bullshit your way through it if you try.
Again I think it depends. Right now, I'm focused in on an incredibly specific database-related program -- I couldn't implement my own networking controls (something that wouldn't break appropriate RFCs) if I wanted to. You may be the zen master of debugging and error handling, but not know dick about interface, etc.
Wit all comes down to it, I agree. I love the environment, I love the languages, but yes, we're getting screwed.
Here's a summary of MS' reply.
"Rather than answering your question, we'll reiterate that we're forcing the cert. change. Despite the numerous complaints you, as current MSCEs, have logged, we'll try to tell you that this is being requested by our customers."
Crap. I use Visual Basic and C++, and wanted to get my MCSD, but now, I don't know if it's worthwhile. When they upgrade one of them, will they expire those certs immediately? I'm not spending 3k-6k for training and testing only to do it yearly! You go to hell, MS. You go to hell and you die!
Can this book be trusted? Seems like the gnomes and the Illuminated Masters are up to no good.
Well, since the crusoe's x86 compatable, why not wangle BeOS onto the thing? Since it is the "multimedia OS" and all.
hm. cross this with the recent press release from Be : Conspiracy or Good Timing?
I'd pay cash money for an "ignore this user" option. Esp. after reading your comments.
Eh. I don't subscribe to that particular dogma, so it doesn't lose anything for me. Course the project may be in the unstable first run, and there'll be a release once the code is cleaned up, etc.
I still can't get to the page (grumble), but if the object is to make the balls to the wall fastest OS around, having no memory protection makes a little sense -- code running in Ring 0 (Sort of like the admin mode of the x86 processor) runs faster than Ring 1,2, or 3, and maybe that's what they've done. Yes, the tradeoff for running Ring 0 is having to trust the programs to manage themselves and behave politely, etc. But, quite honestly, I think a decent C programmer combined with a decent C compiler should be able to make a well behaved program.
I don't think I'll quote the rest of your post, since it's pretty wishy washy -- who cares about it, but is nice, but this happens all the time, yadda, yadda. Seems like you're part of a tiny, jaded OS community.
It'd be cool to have a New OS section on