That "record-setting" quarter had an extra week in it this year. When adjusted for that extra week, it was yet another down quarter for Apple. Even raging, internet-famous mega-fanboy Jon Gruber admitted this.
Well, what he didn't admit that it didn't actually contain the full first week of sales for the iPhone 7, while the previous quarter fully contained the first week of iPhone 6s sales. So when you adjust for that extra week, what happens to the data? Any guess?
If they public's opinion doesn't sway I'd expect to see the headphone jack back on the iPhone by the time the iPhone 9 comes out.
It just struck me that this is not just about headphones, but also things like the Square reader that plugs into the headphone jack*. I'm sure Square would be thrilled to have re-design their hardware to incorporate it wirelessly (and what does that do to security of said devices?)
You really think that the headphone jack is the culprit in Apple's market loss?
Sole culprit... No, but it does need to shoulder a large amount of the blame.
Apple has been steadily losing ground in it's established markets for years, they've offset this by entering new markets.
Or not. But maybe you have a different definition for "established markets". Or of "losing ground". Or "reality".
You really think that the headphone jack is the culprit in Apple's market loss?
Sole culprit... No, but it does need to shoulder a large amount of the blame.
Apple has been steadily losing ground in it's established markets for years, they've offset this by entering new markets.
Or not. But maybe you have a different definition for "established markets". Or of "losing ground". Or "reality".
It's been 3 times they changed the freakin docking connector on their phone and other iShit.
Three times? Even including iPods, I only count two changes to the docking connector itself (and only one that was relevant to their phones and tablets):
Well, your problem is that you only count the changes that actually happened, not those that were reported as certain to happen. Just in February we had confirmed reports on Slashdot that the next iPhone would change to A) "Apple's Ultra Accessory Connector", B) no connector at all, and C) USB-C.
Everybody in his right mind knows that Apple has made all these changes for real, and that they have to release at least 3 version of the next iPhone, each probably using one of the names reported as confirmed for it.
Rumor has it that the next iPhone will be USB-C, but I wouldn't be suprised if they added some proprietary protocols that require Apple/Beats branded headphones or earbuds for that as well.
I sincerely hope that's exactly what they do. It'll be great to make fun of Apple buyers for buying into this.
Gee, making fun of moronic Apple haters who believe in rumours and than make up even sillier rumours from them is much more fun. Boy are you dumb - I'm having so much fun right now.
Where is the added profit in using an industry standard 2.5mm headphone jack? Apple wants you to buy their more expensive and proprietary Lightning port earbuds or wireless Airpods instead.
Rumor has it that the next iPhone will be USB-C, but I wouldn't be suprised if they added some proprietary protocols that require Apple/Beats branded headphones or earbuds for that as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if I heard you were officially retarded. And unlike you I have evidence for that hunch: your post.
Even for Apple we know that the argument for saving space is nonsense. USB-C is 8.4mm x 2.6mm.
A typical 3.5mm analog headphone jack is not much thicker, but even if it is, there is a simple solution to the problem: a 2.5mm analog headphone jack which is even NARROWER and THINNER than USB-C. Headphones already exist for this, and even if they didn't, all existing 3.5mm analog headphones can use a simple adapter that's been around for decades. Plug it on the end of the cable. DONE.
Now that we know the superiority of 2.5mm for solving the space issue, I'm sure a company as "courageous" as Apple will fix their mistake and use 2.5mm instead. Right?
Ignoring that the headphone jack assembly is actually much bigger than the hole you put the plug in - what the hell does that have to do with hw big it compared to the data/charging plug in the phone? They don't replace one with the other, they leave one out, which no longer takes up space. Space - as in 3rd dimension. You are aware that those jacks don't just take up some area on the side of the pone?
$50 emerging market Androids don't compete with the iPhone.
Which emerging markets are we talking about? The fact is that the market grew faster than Apple's sales. A proportionally larger portion of the market decided the iPhone 7 was not what they wanted, both by way of current iPhone users deciding not to upgrade and new market entrants deciding to buy something else. The market has spoken and the iPhone 7 is not what the market wants.
Even if anything you said were true, you couldn't make a point what that had to do with the headphone jack. For all we know the people who buy cheap Android phones would have chosen the model without headphone jack if it was 50 cents cheaper. Because they don't even have headphones which would raise the price of their phone tremendously.
As they often do, Apple made a design decision here. Last quarter's sales suggest it was a good one.
If, indeed, Apple's last quarter sales numbers indicate that they made a good design decision, those numbers would represent an increase in units sold over previous iPhone launch quarters. They do not. Therefore, last quarter's sales do not, in fact, suggest that Apple made a good design decision.
But they do - it's not Apple's problem that you are too dumb to realize that. And it's not mine either, it's always a pleasure to tell you that you still are a moron.
But they sold more of them. And selling more is the opposite of selling less, at least in the real world we live in. Can't speak for you and your "wife" of course.
A headphone jack really doesn't take up much space and is infinitely useful because it's compatible with 99.99% of all audio I/O.
First of all: it's only compatible with 99.99% audio output. Input is something else completely.
Second: "doesn't take up much space" compared to what exactly? Don't forget that the jack assembly takes up much more space than the hole you put the plug into.
Ah, yes. I miss the days of AntennaGate. That was the last chance for Apple to get killed off, but damn it, Apple survived.
And Samsung survived Explodegate. Their phones fucking exploded, and didn't just lose a bar if you held the phone in a fucking awkwardly forced way.
Maybe if they had a safety feature that shut off your phone if the battery voltage suddenly dropped, indicating a possible problem. That could have avoided that whole sudden spike in temperature thing. Aren't they supposedly the company that actually invents technology?
Plenty of evidence that they produce lots of partisan garbage.
You know you are in trouble when you have to quote a site by a self-proclaimed ethicist (who just happens to be a lawyer). Especially when that ethicist has to use selective quotes to come to his conclusion.
If he's smart, since Apple's revenues have been losing momentum. The last quarter's numbers were pretty disappointing, after adjusting for the extra week.
If he's smart, since Apple's revenues have been losing momentum. The last quarter's numbers were pretty disappointing, after adjusting for the extra week.
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"not stellar results"... seriously? Compared to what?
Compared to growing. Next chapter in the Apple story: shrinking.
You are confusing that with your brain.
That "record-setting" quarter had an extra week in it this year. When adjusted for that extra week, it was yet another down quarter for Apple. Even raging, internet-famous mega-fanboy Jon Gruber admitted this.
Well, what he didn't admit that it didn't actually contain the full first week of sales for the iPhone 7, while the previous quarter fully contained the first week of iPhone 6s sales. So when you adjust for that extra week, what happens to the data? Any guess?
If they public's opinion doesn't sway I'd expect to see the headphone jack back on the iPhone by the time the iPhone 9 comes out.
It just struck me that this is not just about headphones, but also things like the Square reader that plugs into the headphone jack*. I'm sure Square would be thrilled to have re-design their hardware to incorporate it wirelessly (and what does that do to security of said devices?)
They have been "thrilled" long before your brain got to "thinking" about it. https://squareup.com/townsquare/go-wireless-with-the-new-square-reader-and-your-iphone-7
You really think that the headphone jack is the culprit in Apple's market loss?
Sole culprit... No, but it does need to shoulder a large amount of the blame. Apple has been steadily losing ground in it's established markets for years, they've offset this by entering new markets.
Or not. But maybe you have a different definition for "established markets". Or of "losing ground". Or "reality".
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You really think that the headphone jack is the culprit in Apple's market loss?
Sole culprit... No, but it does need to shoulder a large amount of the blame. Apple has been steadily losing ground in it's established markets for years, they've offset this by entering new markets.
Or not. But maybe you have a different definition for "established markets". Or of "losing ground". Or "reality".
It's been 3 times they changed the freakin docking connector on their phone and other iShit.
Three times? Even including iPods, I only count two changes to the docking connector itself (and only one that was relevant to their phones and tablets):
Well, your problem is that you only count the changes that actually happened, not those that were reported as certain to happen. Just in February we had confirmed reports on Slashdot that the next iPhone would change to A) "Apple's Ultra Accessory Connector", B) no connector at all, and C) USB-C.
Everybody in his right mind knows that Apple has made all these changes for real, and that they have to release at least 3 version of the next iPhone, each probably using one of the names reported as confirmed for it.
If you have to worry about 15mm of insertion space on a device which is easily 4x that in length or width, you have incompetent engineers.
That's what she said. IOW you have a small dick. And it's bigger than your brain.
It's not hate. It's ridicule. And it's justified. Get over it.
Gee, laughing at you morons is so easy.
Rumor has it that the next iPhone will be USB-C, but I wouldn't be suprised if they added some proprietary protocols that require Apple/Beats branded headphones or earbuds for that as well.
I sincerely hope that's exactly what they do. It'll be great to make fun of Apple buyers for buying into this.
Gee, making fun of moronic Apple haters who believe in rumours and than make up even sillier rumours from them is much more fun. Boy are you dumb - I'm having so much fun right now.
Where is the added profit in using an industry standard 2.5mm headphone jack? Apple wants you to buy their more expensive and proprietary Lightning port earbuds or wireless Airpods instead.
Rumor has it that the next iPhone will be USB-C, but I wouldn't be suprised if they added some proprietary protocols that require Apple/Beats branded headphones or earbuds for that as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if I heard you were officially retarded. And unlike you I have evidence for that hunch: your post.
Exactly.
Even for Apple we know that the argument for saving space is nonsense. USB-C is 8.4mm x 2.6mm.
A typical 3.5mm analog headphone jack is not much thicker, but even if it is, there is a simple solution to the problem: a 2.5mm analog headphone jack which is even NARROWER and THINNER than USB-C. Headphones already exist for this, and even if they didn't, all existing 3.5mm analog headphones can use a simple adapter that's been around for decades. Plug it on the end of the cable. DONE.
Now that we know the superiority of 2.5mm for solving the space issue, I'm sure a company as "courageous" as Apple will fix their mistake and use 2.5mm instead. Right?
Ignoring that the headphone jack assembly is actually much bigger than the hole you put the plug in - what the hell does that have to do with hw big it compared to the data/charging plug in the phone? They don't replace one with the other, they leave one out, which no longer takes up space. Space - as in 3rd dimension. You are aware that those jacks don't just take up some area on the side of the pone?
$50 emerging market Androids don't compete with the iPhone.
Which emerging markets are we talking about? The fact is that the market grew faster than Apple's sales. A proportionally larger portion of the market decided the iPhone 7 was not what they wanted, both by way of current iPhone users deciding not to upgrade and new market entrants deciding to buy something else. The market has spoken and the iPhone 7 is not what the market wants.
Even if anything you said were true, you couldn't make a point what that had to do with the headphone jack. For all we know the people who buy cheap Android phones would have chosen the model without headphone jack if it was 50 cents cheaper. Because they don't even have headphones which would raise the price of their phone tremendously.
My friend, I hope this has been a valuable lesson for you.
Are you an idiot like your friend, or did you reply to the wrong post?
My point relates to the following statement:
As they often do, Apple made a design decision here. Last quarter's sales suggest it was a good one.
If, indeed, Apple's last quarter sales numbers indicate that they made a good design decision, those numbers would represent an increase in units sold over previous iPhone launch quarters. They do not. Therefore, last quarter's sales do not, in fact, suggest that Apple made a good design decision.
But they do - it's not Apple's problem that you are too dumb to realize that. And it's not mine either, it's always a pleasure to tell you that you still are a moron.
And I'm not sure what numbers you're looking at, but the iPhone has lost market share since the iPhone 7 came out.
But they sold more of them. And selling more is the opposite of selling less, at least in the real world we live in. Can't speak for you and your "wife" of course.
And, lacking a second Lightning port, you can not charge the phone and listen to music at the same time while using that included adapter.
But you can do that with with a dock. A dock that Apple has been selling for 2 years now. Stop pretending.
A headphone jack really doesn't take up much space and is infinitely useful because it's compatible with 99.99% of all audio I/O.
First of all: it's only compatible with 99.99% audio output. Input is something else completely.
Second: "doesn't take up much space" compared to what exactly? Don't forget that the jack assembly takes up much more space than the hole you put the plug into.
When Apple was awarded 1 billion/598 million over things that included round corners?
Nowhere, since you made that up.
Ah, yes. I miss the days of AntennaGate. That was the last chance for Apple to get killed off, but damn it, Apple survived.
And Samsung survived Explodegate. Their phones fucking exploded, and didn't just lose a bar if you held the phone in a fucking awkwardly forced way.
Maybe if they had a safety feature that shut off your phone if the battery voltage suddenly dropped, indicating a possible problem. That could have avoided that whole sudden spike in temperature thing. Aren't they supposedly the company that actually invents technology?
TL;DR: Go fuck yourself.
Classy. Thanks. Can't argue with reasoning like that.
Since Apple is one of the most widely held stocks in 401(k) portfolios, ) , where does this voting you're talking about take place exactly?
Today, 28th of February, 9:00 AM PST, at 1 Infinite Loop in Cupertino, Town Hall (Building 4). The meeting, which is open to all shareholders of record on a first-come basis. Why do you ask?
https://ethicsalarms.com/2016/07/31/bye-bye-snopes-youre-dead-to-me-now/
Plenty of evidence that they produce lots of partisan garbage.
You know you are in trouble when you have to quote a site by a self-proclaimed ethicist (who just happens to be a lawyer). Especially when that ethicist has to use selective quotes to come to his conclusion.
If he's smart, since Apple's revenues have been losing momentum. The last quarter's numbers were pretty disappointing, after adjusting for the extra week.
Compared to what exactly?
As compared to the same period in the previous year. (via)
Ahh, so not compared to the lame quarters of the competition.
So when he acquired them they were worth ~ $500 ... and sold for ~$136. Must have read that wrong, yeah?
Pst. I'll let you in on a secret Wallstreet doesn't want you to know about: It's called a 7:1 stock split.
If he's smart, since Apple's revenues have been losing momentum. The last quarter's numbers were pretty disappointing, after adjusting for the extra week.
Compared to what exactly?
Gee, why doNn't you finally point to the BBC report on it? Or from any other non-fake news source but the Daily Moron? That should be interesting.