Are you fucking nuts? The US didn't pay for Apple's R&D, design and engineering, Apple did.
Like I said before a hundred times in this thread, Apple didn't spring into existence from a barren rock island.
Yeah, they sprung into existence in a privately owned garage. Stop pretending the US government paid even a single buck to make Apple big, or that Apple hasn't paid more taxes last year than they ever used of the infrastructure the government paid for in the 40 years they exist.
That was then, this is now. AKA: read the writing on the wall.
You should learn to read before mentioning the writing - Apple fell less than they grew the year before...
The writing on the wall says that Apple will fall more next year then it fell this year.
And despite me explaining it to you why this argument is nothing but guesswork with a low chance of actually happening, you sheepishly continue to claim it as a fact. Are you retarded? Or are you in fact a shill - you also keep claiming that Samsung looks great.
Remember folks, I actually have made a valid, verifiable argument, he just repeats his uncheckable claim, ignoring mine.
Trees don't grow in all places. If this tech can be used on non-arable land (and the limitation seems obvious; you have to build this stuff in places where you can actually retrieve the produced fuel, by pipeline or tapping a tank or whatever), then the two technologies (trees, and whatever you call this if it proves out) can profitably coexist.
And let's not forget: it isn't usually easy to get the trees to where thy are used either. They couldn't make dozens TV shows about wood logging just with artificial drama.
The Newtown school shooting was done by a guy who broke in and stole his mother's weapon (then killed her with it). He was not a "gun owner".
He was provided access to a gun, and he legally acquired it, borrowing a gun from a family member, then going on a killing spree. The gun nuts make it sound like it was a home invasion of a stranger. The facts support it being a peaceful visit, until he took the gun he was given legal access to and shot his mother.
Heck, let's pretend it was a home invasion of a stranger - she and all the other people were killed because she owned a gun that was easy to turn against her.
Also, the argument that everything was fine until the gun became "illegal" is disingenuous because it is so damn easy to turn a legal gun illegal, not to mention that the vast majority of illegal guns were in fact legal until such a simple turn occurred. Anyway, I'm still waiting for the explanation when exactly the gun used in this case became illegal http://www.nydailynews.com/new...
Why dont you just fuck off already? Why should a company be charged anything to bring its money home?
Umm, let's see. Because the USA provided the infrastructure that allowed them to exist in the first place let alone making billions upon billions of dollars. People, and corporations like to put out this idea that their earnings sprung from barren rock on an island somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. Corporations can make money because nations (actually the tax payers in those nations) allowed them to.
What infrastructure did Apple use that that in any way influenced the sales outside of the US - that Apple hasn't more than paid for by their taxes on US profits?
And why the hell don't you complain about Amazon - there isn't a single company that taxes US infrastructure (and that of the rest of the world) more than Amazon, yet they pay almost no taxes anywhere in the world.
Apple's net income was $7.8 billion in the fiscal third quarter that ended June 25. So they still made more money.
Not by much. And Samsung is going up while Apple is going down.
Again, not over 2 years.
That was then, this is now. AKA: read the writing on the wall.
You should learn to read before mentioning the writing - Apple fell less than they grew the year before, while Samsung couldn't compensate for the devastating sales drop of the previous year.
Or to make it even clearer: you are trying to predict the future by pretending the one year trend will continue, while ignoring that that would have failed even more miserable than the "John Carter of Mars" movie for both Apple and Samsung two years in a row. Are you really too dumb to realize that?
I can't really think of any other company in recent memory that wanted to be American more than Apple, but fair enough.
One hint: "America"
I don't really care where they produce, I just think that a population of people cannot thrive if the biggest fish among them take all the nutrients. Let's have it as a symbiotic relationship or else reject it.
What's that even supposed to mean? Does it translate to "I really really really hate Apple for no particular reason"?
This stupid argument needs to die. Economics 101: The price of an item is what the market will bear.
That's true but misleading. In a competitive market "what the market will bear" is in part a function of what it costs producers to produce the item.
Ahh, so since Apple, unlike Android manufacturers, can supposedly ask whatever they want for their phones, they are in a different market and have 100% marketshare and thus win against Android.
So what? Apple has always tried to promote themselves as an American company while shipping most labor overseas. They can pay the damn tax.
Let's ignore that you seem to be confusing Apple with just about any American company.
Apple still wouldn't need to bring back foreign profits and then pay taxes on them just because they build their stuff in the USA. They just would have lower profits and would thus have to pay less taxes than they do now.
Security Chief Michael Garibaldi on Babylon 5 has passed away in Las Vegas at only 60 years of age. His B5 character was often paired-up with G'Kar (played by Andreas Katsulas who died in 2006 at age 59) and with Jeffrey Sinclair (played by Michael O'Hare who died in 2012, also at age 60)
Holy fsck, am I glad I never had a role in B5, I'd be dead by now since I'm 62.
Well, Boxleitner obviously is still alive at 66, and Mira Furlan and Peter Jurasic seem to be fine at 60 (Mira has a little over a month to break the spell). Bill Mumy is 62, and Stephen Furst 61. So not every Babylon 5 actors dies at 60 (or younger)
Because he bought the latest refresh model, released less a month or two ago.
Either he bought his just released MacBook Air over a year ago, or you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Or you are just an average troll. Yeah, that's the most likely one.
Historically Apple haven't made most of the components in their systems anyway. They bought a CPU company (although not an actual fab, they just do design) but that's about it. Everything else is off the shelf or slightly customised for Apple but basically standard stuff, with a shiny Apple case wrapped around it.
So chances are their car will be mostly just parts from established manufacturers with an Apple shell and high level software.
As opposed to Google? What apart from Internet Search has Google developed that didn't actually come from a company they bought? Heck, all their "inventions" in autonomous cars were ready long before Google even existed.
While it's not like they don't have the cash (in Ireland..), but vehicle assembly is a huge job and I'm guessing that many of the parts for an electric car aren't something you can necessarily just get out of the Bosch parts bin or get from jobbers.
As opposed to the parts for the iPhone? Apple sure as hell knows how to design their own hardware, and how it can be made, and even how to tell external manufacturers how to build them http://www.technobuffalo.com/2...
Fuck, they build their own industrial robot to disassemble iPhones. For decades Apple was able to build parts themselves they couldn't buy - or at least convince somebody else to build it for them. Just take ARM and Gorilla Glass.
It's been like a decade since the first iPhone was released. Even a "cheap smartphone" has much better h/w specs than an iPhone 4S. You can get an Android phone with similar hardware specs to a top end iPhone for nearly half the price
Then why even Android fan sites test those cheap Android phones as being shit? Why do Fandroids on Slashdot treat somebody like an idiot for buying them? Or even the "wrong" "high-end" one?
How is that relevant to iOS vs Android, when a Samsung device costs just as much as an iPhone?
Because Samsung's flagship S7 products aren't the only Android phones on the market. Which is why iPhone only has 15% of the smartphone market share. Android is the standard.
So Android is the standard for what exactly? Cheap phones used to replace and in the same way as dumb phones?
So let's compare to the same quarter 2 years ago: Apple sold 35.2 million iPhones in (calender) quarter 2 of 2014, while Samsung sold 78 million. So comparing those two quarters two years apart, Apple sold 14.7% more iPhones, while Samsung's smartphone sales are down by 7.7%.
So clearly in 2016 Samsung is the winner because they had a terrible year in 2015, while Apple is TEH L00zer because they had an incredible 2015.
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Are you fucking nuts? The US didn't pay for Apple's R&D, design and engineering, Apple did.
Like I said before a hundred times in this thread, Apple didn't spring into existence from a barren rock island.
Yeah, they sprung into existence in a privately owned garage. Stop pretending the US government paid even a single buck to make Apple big, or that Apple hasn't paid more taxes last year than they ever used of the infrastructure the government paid for in the 40 years they exist.
Again, not over 2 years.
That was then, this is now. AKA: read the writing on the wall.
You should learn to read before mentioning the writing - Apple fell less than they grew the year before...
The writing on the wall says that Apple will fall more next year then it fell this year.
And despite me explaining it to you why this argument is nothing but guesswork with a low chance of actually happening, you sheepishly continue to claim it as a fact. Are you retarded? Or are you in fact a shill - you also keep claiming that Samsung looks great.
Remember folks, I actually have made a valid, verifiable argument, he just repeats his uncheckable claim, ignoring mine.
Trees don't grow in all places. If this tech can be used on non-arable land (and the limitation seems obvious; you have to build this stuff in places where you can actually retrieve the produced fuel, by pipeline or tapping a tank or whatever), then the two technologies (trees, and whatever you call this if it proves out) can profitably coexist.
And let's not forget: it isn't usually easy to get the trees to where thy are used either. They couldn't make dozens TV shows about wood logging just with artificial drama.
What infrastructure did Apple use that that in any way influenced the sales outside of the US
Are you serious? How about ALL of the R&D, design and engineering that went into developing the product in the first place?
Are you fucking nuts? The US didn't pay for Apple's R&D, design and engineering, Apple did.
The Newtown school shooting was done by a guy who broke in and stole his mother's weapon (then killed her with it). He was not a "gun owner".
He was provided access to a gun, and he legally acquired it, borrowing a gun from a family member, then going on a killing spree. The gun nuts make it sound like it was a home invasion of a stranger. The facts support it being a peaceful visit, until he took the gun he was given legal access to and shot his mother.
Heck, let's pretend it was a home invasion of a stranger - she and all the other people were killed because she owned a gun that was easy to turn against her.
Also, the argument that everything was fine until the gun became "illegal" is disingenuous because it is so damn easy to turn a legal gun illegal, not to mention that the vast majority of illegal guns were in fact legal until such a simple turn occurred. Anyway, I'm still waiting for the explanation when exactly the gun used in this case became illegal http://www.nydailynews.com/new...
Why dont you just fuck off already? Why should a company be charged anything to bring its money home?
Umm, let's see. Because the USA provided the infrastructure that allowed them to exist in the first place let alone making billions upon billions of dollars. People, and corporations like to put out this idea that their earnings sprung from barren rock on an island somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. Corporations can make money because nations (actually the tax payers in those nations) allowed them to.
What infrastructure did Apple use that that in any way influenced the sales outside of the US - that Apple hasn't more than paid for by their taxes on US profits?
And why the hell don't you complain about Amazon - there isn't a single company that taxes US infrastructure (and that of the rest of the world) more than Amazon, yet they pay almost no taxes anywhere in the world.
Apple's net income was $7.8 billion in the fiscal third quarter that ended June 25. So they still made more money.
Not by much. And Samsung is going up while Apple is going down.
Again, not over 2 years.
That was then, this is now. AKA: read the writing on the wall.
You should learn to read before mentioning the writing - Apple fell less than they grew the year before, while Samsung couldn't compensate for the devastating sales drop of the previous year.
Or to make it even clearer: you are trying to predict the future by pretending the one year trend will continue, while ignoring that that would have failed even more miserable than the "John Carter of Mars" movie for both Apple and Samsung two years in a row. Are you really too dumb to realize that?
I can't really think of any other company in recent memory that wanted to be American more than Apple, but fair enough.
One hint: "America"
I don't really care where they produce, I just think that a population of people cannot thrive if the biggest fish among them take all the nutrients. Let's have it as a symbiotic relationship or else reject it.
What's that even supposed to mean? Does it translate to "I really really really hate Apple for no particular reason"?
That's true but misleading. In a competitive market "what the market will bear" is in part a function of what it costs producers to produce the item.
Ahh, so since Apple, unlike Android manufacturers, can supposedly ask whatever they want for their phones, they are in a different market and have 100% marketshare and thus win against Android.
So what? Apple has always tried to promote themselves as an American company while shipping most labor overseas. They can pay the damn tax.
Let's ignore that you seem to be confusing Apple with just about any American company.
Apple still wouldn't need to bring back foreign profits and then pay taxes on them just because they build their stuff in the USA. They just would have lower profits and would thus have to pay less taxes than they do now.
Security Chief Michael Garibaldi on Babylon 5 has passed away in Las Vegas at only 60 years of age. His B5 character was often paired-up with G'Kar (played by Andreas Katsulas who died in 2006 at age 59) and with Jeffrey Sinclair (played by Michael O'Hare who died in 2012, also at age 60)
Holy fsck, am I glad I never had a role in B5, I'd be dead by now since I'm 62.
Well, Boxleitner obviously is still alive at 66, and Mira Furlan and Peter Jurasic seem to be fine at 60 (Mira has a little over a month to break the spell). Bill Mumy is 62, and Stephen Furst 61. So not every Babylon 5 actors dies at 60 (or younger)
Apple's net income was $7.8 billion in the fiscal third quarter that ended June 25. So they still made more money.
Not by much. And Samsung is going up while Apple is going down.
Again, not over 2 years.
"I have a lot of stuff in my fanny pack" "Hi, I'm Randy" Are just the ones off the top of my head. There are plenty more.
So do different cities in the US also gave their own distinct language?
Your friend's brand new MBA is interesting why?
Because he bought the latest refresh model, released less a month or two ago.
Either he bought his just released MacBook Air over a year ago, or you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Or you are just an average troll. Yeah, that's the most likely one.
I have bought those and it's a hit'n miss affair. Some cables work, some don't.
So like USB3 cables you buy at Amazon.
Yet, strangely, that is what they sued over. I guess you guys know more then Apple, huh?
Well, show us the suit were they sued over rounded corners. Not the design of the iPhone, but over "rounded corners and nothing else".
Historically Apple haven't made most of the components in their systems anyway. They bought a CPU company (although not an actual fab, they just do design) but that's about it. Everything else is off the shelf or slightly customised for Apple but basically standard stuff, with a shiny Apple case wrapped around it.
So chances are their car will be mostly just parts from established manufacturers with an Apple shell and high level software.
As opposed to Google? What apart from Internet Search has Google developed that didn't actually come from a company they bought? Heck, all their "inventions" in autonomous cars were ready long before Google even existed.
I mean whole cars meant for consumer sale.
While it's not like they don't have the cash (in Ireland..), but vehicle assembly is a huge job and I'm guessing that many of the parts for an electric car aren't something you can necessarily just get out of the Bosch parts bin or get from jobbers.
As opposed to the parts for the iPhone? Apple sure as hell knows how to design their own hardware, and how it can be made, and even how to tell external manufacturers how to build them http://www.technobuffalo.com/2...
Fuck, they build their own industrial robot to disassemble iPhones. For decades Apple was able to build parts themselves they couldn't buy - or at least convince somebody else to build it for them. Just take ARM and Gorilla Glass.
It's been like a decade since the first iPhone was released. Even a "cheap smartphone" has much better h/w specs than an iPhone 4S. You can get an Android phone with similar hardware specs to a top end iPhone for nearly half the price
Then why even Android fan sites test those cheap Android phones as being shit? Why do Fandroids on Slashdot treat somebody like an idiot for buying them? Or even the "wrong" "high-end" one?
Samsung loses despite making twice as much money and/or shipping MORE THAN twice as much product?
Let's ignore again that Samsung's sales are dropping.
The dd not make more money.. You are confuddeling revenue with profit.
The only thing that keeps the Mac relevant and growing is the need to develop for iOS.
They sell 4+ million Macs every quarter just to iOS developers? Yeah, sure.
Actually, that wasn't true for this generation (the S7's). You could buy the unlocked S7 from Amazon
Like he said; some possibly shady 3rd party reseller.
Because Samsung's flagship S7 products aren't the only Android phones on the market. Which is why iPhone only has 15% of the smartphone market share. Android is the standard.
So Android is the standard for what exactly? Cheap phones used to replace and in the same way as dumb phones?
So clearly in 2016 Samsung is the winner because they had a terrible year in 2015, while Apple is TEH L00zer because they had an incredible 2015.
Funny, every iPhone owner I know upgrades yearly.
Yeah, yeah, all two of them.