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Apple Replaces The Pistol Emoji With A Water Gun (cnn.com)
Apple has a announced a number of new emoji changes on Monday, but the most controversial new change is that the pistol emoji will be replaced with a green water gun emoji in the company's upcoming iOS 10 operating system: The water gun swap is not Apple's first foray into cartoon gun control. Earlier this year the governing body in charge of emojis nixed a proposed rifle emoji. It was one of a number of possible new additions, but Unicode Consortium members Apple and Microsoft argued against the Olympics-inspired gun, according to Buzzfeed. Last year, an organization called New Yorkers Against Gun Violence started a campaign to get Apple to replace its version of the pistol emoji. It launched a site, disarmtheiphone.com, and sent an open letter to remove the firearm emoji "as a symbolic gesture to limit gun accessibility." As it stands, Microsoft is the only major software company to use a toy gun emoji instead of a pistol emoji in Windows -- Google, Samsung, Facebook and Twitter all use realistic pistol emojis. Apple's iOS 10 will be released in fall, but you can download the iOS 10 public beta to be one of the first to wield the toy gun emoji.
The actual water gun emoji
Fight Social Justice Warriors with a water pistol.
They're all wet anyway.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
...gun emojis do.
Honestly, what did you guys expect? Apple is an image based company and the image they portray is "hip". Currently in the largest population centers its hip to be super liberal.
I feel so much safer.
Having an emoji swap doesn't seem to be something that really matters in my life. I have quite a few rifles and handguns, but I don't know that I would have ever even looked for that emoji if it made it on to my phone. Seems more like something a teenager would use to look cool or something.
You have got to be kidding me. This is so pathetic.
>"Last year, an organization called New Yorkers Against Gun Violence started a campaign to get Apple to replace its version of the pistol emoji."
This is really just so sad.
Oh, there is an "explosion" emoji on my Android- I suppose that should go. And the bomb one too- that is far scarier than a gun. And the one of fire- fire is dangerous and bad. Better throw in the lighting one. Oops, just found one of a knife- that is a no-no. Snakes are scary, make that one a toy snake, somehow.... well, still scary, just make it go away. Wow, there is a syringe- oops, that could be drugs, that should go....
So when they make a font change like this I'm guessing it changes all past texts retroactively? Or do texts and e-mails embedd the image not the font? Doe they appear differently on different computers and OS? If they changed the the thumbs up emoji to a goatse would it change in all the e-mails I sent to my boss in the past?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
What is Apple's problem here? Guns are a LEGAL PRODUCT, and thankfully, they can't do shit about it but censor their emoji.
..until someone realizes that is insensitive in a state facing a drought. Maybe a foam dart gun would be better.
There are people, who are making money, in non-profits and for-profit companies, to advocate/lobby this, implement this .. listen to this. ...
I'm done. Why are we not on Mars yet? We need a colony on there like thirty years ago. If we took half the effort all the people involved put into crap like this emoji bullshit, who knows .. maybe we'd have fully functional closed oxygen producing ecosystems by now? Technology to make sealed domes and keep out terrible solar radiation? Mars transport ships that can air-break and land?
I'd be the first to volunteer. Risking death on the journey to a new world would be better than having to read this bullshit every fucking day.
So grateful to not be hip. It seems hip is synonymous with stupid.
Maybe I am old, but did people fight about the cartoons depicted in wingdings. Because as far as I am interested, it is a stupid font on my computer that has no use to me.
So when they make a font change like this I'm guessing it changes all past texts retroactively? Or do texts and e-mails embedd the image not the font?
They can pry my previously texted pistol emojis from my cold dead hands.
I need my safeplace! SOMEONE TAKE ME TO MY SAFEPLACE!
In all seriousness, I sincerely hope future historians look back on this time with a sense of amusement and incredulity.
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
sooo.... are they going to replace all apple employees with dummies, next? oh wait....
In 1984 Orwell wrote of Newspeak, a language and culture designed to wipe out concepts that were unpopular.
Apple can remove gun emojis all day long. All that will mean is people's messages to each other won't contain gun emojis.
It won't change people being killed daily by rogue cops, crazy lunatics, terrorists, or others.
If Apple wanted to REALLY make a change in violence involving firearms (not to be confused with "gun violence" since guns by themselves aren't violent...) they should take some of their hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars and dedicate it to help stop crazy people from killing other crazy people.
Note 1: OJ Simpson did not kill Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman with a firearm. He used a kitchen knife -- Nicole's kitchen knife.
Note 2: The French suicide bomber killed lots of people with his vehicle. Vehicles are available to everyone.
Note 3: The Newtown school shooting was done by a guy who broke in and stole his mother's weapon (then killed her with it). He was not a "gun owner".
But yes, do let's remove the emoji. I'm sure we'll never see or hear guns discussed on the news, in the media, on FB, and everywhere else.
Because emojis or not, ISIS creates a new death every 84 hours. I'm sure the lack of emojis won't change that. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/...
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Apple is an Ireland based company".
FTFY
Modern app appers use APPS to app apps, NOT LUDDITE guns!
Apps!
... to get a waterproof i-Device case.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
Then you'll be glad to know you're so unhip, it's a wonder your bum doesn't fall off.
Been wanting to use that somewhere in this thread since I read the first post in it.
i for one won't be satisfied until they can force correct all mentions of inappropriate things, typed or otherwise.
Shouldn't it have changed to a large black early 80's walkie talkie?
Emoji are a system defined font basically. Apple, Google and Microsoft among others do not define the code numbers and meanings, but they do create the images and set a style for the appearance on their systems.
This means everyone you text that does not have iOS 10 still sees a pistol.
It means some foolish Apple user is going to send a water gun emoji to someone maybe saying "Let's take the kids to the park" and some non-Apple user is going to call the cops.
I can't wait to see how this communication breaking move has a real world effect.
(Hopefully nobody gets shot or swatted)
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Deaths per year in the US by AIDS and by gun violence are about the same, approximately 8K each.
Yet, way more guns than iPhone!
Ban iPhones instead of guns!
They can pry my previously texted pistol emojis from my cold dead hands.
Cold WET hands from now on. It is a water pistol.
On a side note, I wonder how long will it take for people to start describing it as a water pistol "full of acid" or "gasoline water pistol" or "pee-pistol".
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
If you can't win, censor.
If you don't like reality, do what you can to disrupt the language.
If people lack the ability to communicate an idea, you've already won.
If emojis are meant to be speech, then this is ludicrous. If they are not, then this is petty and dumb. There's no excuse for this kind of shit.
Why do people like you read slashdot? This is a serious question. Where did all the trump morons come from?
Who finds emojis pointless, stupid, waste of space? They serve two functions 1) A means of communication for ignorant people who can't put emotions and thoughts into words. 2) Job security for unicode consortium employees
They come from all walks of life, just like the Hillary morons. How do I know? I'm voting for Trump and I have a college education and 30 years of software development experience, and we have both parties represented in my workplace which is located in a very RED state... Some of my best friends are Hillary supporters and I think they are just as crazy as they think I am.
Always has been.
It also means easily manipulated
If you can show a link between iPhones and AIDS as strong and direct as that between guns and gun violence, then you may have a point.
Grow the fuck up.
Sincerely,
Every normal, well-adjusted, person with a mental age in the double digits.
or "pee-pistol".
That's rape, bro.
3-letter-agents bear walkie-talkies.
And I think you are both undereducated when it comes to the matter of how the world ruling class works. Both Hillary and Trump are part of a world ruling class that believes that the people are completely incapable of learning to rule themselves and furthermore that any attempt must be undermined.
While the bombbot is an interesting precedence, I am not worried about facing off against the police at any point, ever.
They changed the pistol to a water gun, and someone will still complain. Mark my words.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Emojis are meant to be speech. They are to this era what katakana was legendarily for women, a simplified, easier to read, glyph, because apparently, non-Asians can't handle Chinese, Japanese, and Korean characters creeping into their language use. Or shorthand anymore. Just did a search for "shorthand keyboard", and found results for how to use a variant of Gregg shorthand on your keyboard, but no keyboard or tools containing actual shorthand symbols.
Apple includes emoji of two men with a child and two women with a child. Let's see how that's worked out:
http://blog.jim.com/culture/ga...
http://blog.jim.com/culture/th...
https://winteryknight.com/2013...
I wrote in the rifle emoji thread that gays with children are far, far more likely to be raping said children than normal people with rifles are likely to use them to commit murder. The same holds true for any gun in general.
They should have replaced it with a pop tart, bite-sculpted into the form of a pistol.
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Plastic foam is insensitive to the environment. Maybe a spit-wad blowgun would be better.
I'd say the one from SG1 where he loved his P90.
Hence they are aware that except in one small corner of the supposedly civilised world, it actually isn't considered OK to run around shooting at each other and trying to kill each other for fun.
It's OK Bender, there's no such thing as 2.
This has been the source of much confusion and irksome emoji-controversy:
Unicode itself does not define the rendering of any of its glyphs. For convenience, they provide example documentation on their site; but that is just convenience, it is not normative. This is most obvious with fonts and normal letters: whether it's Times New Roman or Comic Sans is not Unicode's problem; just that it's a "Latin Capital A".
Emoji fuck this up because they are shoehorned into the same glyph/rendering model; but unlike oddball fonts, which tend to just head toward being illegible or unpleasant, you change the meaning of a pictograph pretty quickly if you deviate too far.
In this case, if you sent a text containing the pistol emoji it will now, forever, and across platforms; be internally represented as U+1F52B, the codepoint for 'Pistol' in the miscellaneous symbols and pictographs block. What will appear on your screen depends entirely on what font is used; apparently Apple is changing their system default font so that it will now appear as a water pistol. If the same text is viewed on an Android device, apparently it will still show up as a pistol-y looking pistol.
It's bullshit like this that makes the continued drive to shovel emoji into Unicode such a clusterfuck. Yeah, it was a necessary evil when cleaning up the Japanese legacy handset market(just like a lot of other weird stuff that has been included over the years in the attempt to hasten the demise of horrid legacy encodings); but Unicode is not an image format, nor is it intended to be, so it's not a very good fit for situations where details of rendering matter; and when the glyphs involved also push various buttons (as in this case with guns; or the last Apple/emoji/Unicode controversy over the racism of the default 'smiley face' being a yellow color on iphone) it just leads to a lot of deeply unproductive shouting.
If people really want to send goofy little pictures to one another; and emoticons aren't good enough, we already have good mechanism for doing that: We call them "image formats". They are these crazy standards that allow you to fairly precisely define exactly what you want the picture you are sending to look like, it's pretty cutting edge.
Never Mind The Bollocks....
Why do that when you can demand that Unicode version N+1 include new codepoints for each of those; or even go all the way and define some new "emoji modifiers" so that the user can specify water pistol + fluid it is filled with for hundreds of distinct combinations!
for the Bill Clinton and blue dress jokes.
to call it a twater-gun?
There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
On real computers, fonts can be changed from system defaults, overridden on websites, etc. if the user so desires. Does iOS support just changing to the font of your choice and calling it a day?
Lets fix the real problem: the conditioning people've gone through that makes them think calling cops over a chat program image is rationally justified.
Please go fuck yourself.
Earth is a single point of failure.
"he legally acquired it, borrowing a gun from a family member" Holy hell dude. He killed her and stole it. What is wrong with you?
A spit-wad blowgun is insensitive to people with asthma. Maybe a rubber band stretched over a finger tip would be better.
This will cause confusion when someone sends the emoji appearing as a water gun to someone with an android (or older IOS) phone, where is will appear as a pistol.
On real computers, fonts can be changed from system defaults, overridden on websites, etc.
No true scotsman would ever do that.
Does iOS support just changing to the font of your choice and calling it a day?
No, but just call it a day anyway.
Insensitive to amputees. Try again.
You've gotten about as close to the vote between a giant douche and a turd sandwich that it's possible to get. Anybody that has strong feelings either way is retarded.
Gestures won't stop real guns being actually sold to children illegally but technically to their parents (who have the cash), resulting in hundreds of child-on-child shootings every year. This censorship just reinforces the idea that guns are toys. If concerned New York-ers want to make a difference, demand the government enforce child-safety laws already on the books and that children be banned from gun ranges: Not that language is dumbed-down to make children 'safe'.
I still don't understand why the 2 mobile OS do not have profile support. When I got my first cell phone about 16 years ago, it had profiles. It was a basic feature all phone OS' had. Now we have "smart" phones where we have to get third party apps for basic phone functions. Or in the case of iOS you get the worst of the currently supported browsers on the Web. Seriously, the thing is a complete joke. Even the desktop version is a thousand times better! I'm not even going to start on the Palm OS ripoff interface other than to say Palm pulled it off better.
Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon what's the difference? All steal money from devs and control with walled gardens.
This is bound to cause more trouble through the mislabeling. Mismatch between nonstandard emojis has already caused confusion. Now imagine a High School Senior planning a prank "I'm going to bring to the last day of school and get the principal." The recipient phone OS doesn't Fisher-Price it to a watergun and sees an actual pistol.
Hilarity ensues! Of course given Zero Tolerance brainlessness they probably would have charged said hypothetical senior with a felony for something that vaguely shaped like a gun anyway.
The next internet debate. Is that "water" blue or gold?
Both Hillary and Trump are part of a world ruling class that believes that the people are completely incapable of learning to rule themselves and furthermore that any attempt must be undermined.
Assuming that's true (and I'm not arguing), maybe that notion is correct.
In the US, we had some pretty discriminatory laws not too long ago. However, in the very early years (which weren't all that long ago), the right to vote was restricted to land owners (and further restricted to white males, etc). The land owner restriction did have a good argument for existing - only those with a significantly invested interest could vote, and they were likely to be somewhat educated because they owned land, blah blah blah. It was a way of preventing a massive amount of ignorant people from screwing up an otherwise good voting system. That lasted 52 years (or more in many states)!
There's lots of things that were wrong about those systems (ex. IMO, as a starter, woman and all races should have equal rights with those white males), but that notion that there are people that may not have enough sense to be voting.,.. we all know there's some sense to that, but we're not sure how to draw that line. In the US, it's still not a democracy; we're a republic. The presidential race is decided by the electoral college, not the popular vote; representatives decide many other votes, not the popular vote.
I'm just glad we have 3 branches of government, and it's very difficult for any one president to change very much within one or two terms. Hopefully the chaos will balance itself out :-/
How did he kill her with it before he acquired it?
No, the timeline is that he was in his house, with access to firearms. Legally acquired one, and then shot his, probably sleeping, mother. He didn't "steal" it. It was unsecured in his home. Do you steal a cup from your wife every time you make coffee? No, objects in the family home are accessible to all, and not a crime to touch.
Adam Lanza broke no firearms laws in acuiring the firearms he went on the spree with.
Also note the OP's "broke in" phrasing. He "broke in" to his legal residence? That's silly.
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OK, so this is news-worthy? As opposed to about a million items in technology and science that have more impact on our daily lives? Shall I post something about how I have grown a pumpkin in my garden by means of an amazing collection of technology called "garden tools"? It's bound to reverberate through the news media, no doubt about it.
Yeah, I remember when it started to come out (this time around).. It seemed to be very manufactured, even commercially at that. I was never into it or even knew people who were and reminded me of the scene in Life of Brian where the crowd chants in unison Yes, we're all individuals. Yes, we're all different. Then it spread onto the internet six years later and groupthink took over and the internet became boring.
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In the US, it's still not a democracy; we're a republic.
Why on fucking earth so many Americans insist on this idiotic claim that somehow democracy is the opposite of a republic?
The opposite of democracy is AUTOCRACY.
The opposite of a republic is MONARCHY.
That's why we can see:
- democratic monarchies: UK, Netherland, etc.
- democratic republics: France, USA, etc.
- autocratic monarchies: Saudi Arabia, Brunei, etc.
- autocratic republics: Syria, Sudan, etc.
Please stop spreading cretinous claims.
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A: You threatened me with death! (Pulls out his Samsung phone)
B: No, I didn't (Pulls out his ihphone)
where the crowd chants in unison Yes, we're all individuals. Yes, we're all different.
"Think different", while you all use the same non customizable phone and laptop as every other "different thinker".
Sure you can change it. But the point is if you change the emoji then you change what is being said.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
However there is being liberal than there is being crazy liberal.
The type of liberal where any idea that falls under the conservative category must be stopped.
Changing from a real gun to a water gun changes the meaning of the message. What if Apple changed the word "Samsung" to "Cheap 3rd party ripoff".
People are going to have different opinions and to many people a gun isn't an image of violence. But a tool and a symbol of freedom. To change that image to a water pistol is infringing on free speech.
I am not a gun nut. I don't own any guns and I support proper gun regulations. However you can't block free speach by changing a picture, but you change the meaning of past speach and that is wrong.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Seems like being conservative is being rather over-sensitive about everything. It's an emoji, a think you are supposed to hate anyway because those damn kids and their phones, and Apple took a position you disagree with. No need to get all indignant about it.
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Exactly. And this is now going to be problematic when someone on an Apple device sends a message saying 'I'm going to shoot you with a U+1F52B,' to a user of another system, who will see 'I'm going to shoot you with a {glock image}' and not 'I'm going to shoot you with a {waterpistol image}'. It's a nice case study of why Emoji in unicode are a brain-dead idea. What was wrong with the MSN Messenger convention of [[water pistol]]? If a client had an image that corresponded to the string 'water pistol' it could show it, otherwise it would show the text and the user could figure it out.
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They fight a good fight over encryption, and then ruin it by caving to a bunch of gun control nitwits who, despite their rhetoric, will not stop trying to chip away at gun rights, symbolically or otherwise. These people are sick, twisted, fearful of their own shadows, and are unworthy of being called Americans.
If the image on the article is anything to go by, they're also pointing it in the other direction. That's going to screw up the meaning of my threatening emoji strings in two ways!
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
I don't have an iDevice, but from googling around it appears that the answer is no. You can't even change the font, not that you can do that on Android either without additional software and root.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Think of it as a pistol that shoots molten ice bullets. That is, like, soooo James Bond.
How did he kill her with it before he acquired it?
Because only guns are used in killings? There is no other way to kill your sleeping mother except with her legally obtained firearm?
No, the timeline is that he was in his house, with access to firearms. Legally acquired one, and then shot his, probably sleeping, mother. He didn't "steal" it. It was unsecured in his home. Do you steal a cup from your wife every time you make coffee? No, objects in the family home are accessible to all, and not a crime to touch.
I'm sorry, but this whole statement is wrong.
The news stories at the time indicated that the firearms were locked in a safe/gun cabinet before his mother was killed and he 'broke into' the safe to get the firearms.
Objects in a family home are most certainly NOT 'accessible to all', and it definitely can be a crime for one person to touch it vs. another person. There are reams of Laws written for just this very situation.
In New York State, if one person in a household has a pistol permit and owns a pistol and the other person does not have their permit it is ILLEGAL for them to touch that pistol. AT ALL. Even for the purposes of self defense.
Adam Lanza broke no firearms laws in acuiring the firearms he went on the spree with.
Yes he did. He killed his mother to acquire the firearms he used, and, as far as the public knew, he was not permitted to own firearms himself.
Also note the OP's "broke in" phrasing. He "broke in" to his legal residence? That's silly.
He didn't break into his residence. He broke into the safe his mother was keeping the guns in.
What is silly is the attempts you make to justify punishing law-abiding citizens for Adam Lanza's behavior.
Is there apple emoji? I suggest changing that to pile of shit if there is one.
It is almost as if emoji is too undefined to be suitable to use for communication!
They should never have been brought into unicode without a proper description of what they should look like.
Ideally one should be able to take the description and draw a version that more or less works on a monochrome 5x7 pixel per char LCD-display.
You're just lying. Outright lying.
It means some foolish Apple user is going to send a water gun emoji to someone maybe saying "Let's take the kids to the park" and some non-Apple user is going to call the cops.
Could be the other way around, though. If you see a bunch of arabs jumping out of a car near a large crowd and shooting water pistols, thank Apple.
There were no illegal guns there... guns are never illegal... just people use them sometimes do illegal things... but maybe you were being tongue in cheek.
Sandyhook, Newtown, no illegal guns... this lady in Texas, no illegal guns... just crazy people... who should have been locked up.
Your article says police were called there many times but adds no details... why were they called... what did they do... did they report anyone up higher... did child protective services get involved... other than shoot people what did the cops do... nothing I guess except come back to shoot the woman later... yikes.
They should just cut to the chase and make it a douche bottle.
Sorry for the language, but this is some weak-ass bullshit.
It's font-specific.
Like the system will have a system font set-aside for "Unicode Emoji" instead of filling it with blank boxes or "?"'s, but you can load whatever font you want with different emoji if you want.
So yes, retroactively you'd see the change.
My only worry about this is that in the event of "mass shooting" or "hostage" situation, people won't know to type "gun" instead of using the gun emoji, since the recepient might see the watergun and think they're not serious.
Try a spud-gun . It fires bits of potato.
Honestly, what did you guys expect? Apple is an image based company and the image they portray is "hip". Currently in the largest population centers its hip to be super liberal.
Yeah, they're taking a bold stance against guns, except when guns make them money.
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
And the pansification of America continues..
Just plain hypocrites.
+1 Informative.
> but Unicode is not an image format,
You nit the nail on the head!
> They are these crazy standards that allow you to fairly precisely define exactly what you want the picture you are sending to look like, it's pretty cutting edge.
Unfortunately Unicode is slowly becoming hijacked where they start adding every image under the sun. If we're going down that route, then why not add every concept, noun, verb, to Unicode then?? I mean if it worked for hieroglyphics and partially for Chinese then why not just finish the job of cannibalizing Unicode?
...Or is This Stupid??
why would you assume just because someone is sick of the SJW over reach they support trump??? thats idiotic
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
I can change the font on my s6, no problem. Can't root it and doesn't require any extra software. Settings -> Display & Wallpaper -> Font
I feel safer already!
There really needs to a far more standardization on emoji. The as explained in this XKCD argument our speach and communication has been moved to more of a visual form. Our standard text (Much like this) is designed for more formal expression of ideas and knowledge. Where it recommends that people sit down read it, think about it for a bit and respond to it, learn from it, or flat out reject it. Emoji are part of the new mobile text communication. Short burst of communications meant to get attention express an immediate or emotion.
Even if the Apple Smiley face seems a little happier than the Chrome Smiley face. Than the expression of the idea is different.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
The emoji is part of the unicode standard. You send U+1F52B [ http://emojipedia.org/pistol/ ], and each platform will display using it native font rending engine.
Yes they appear differently on different platforms. But also as they are unicode you can include them in URLs.
> If they changed the the thumbs up emoji to a goatse would it change in all the e-mails I sent to my boss in the past?
Same as if they changed all the Is to look like little dicks. Or if you changed the font on your bosses computer to a font that used pictures of dicks for each of the letters.
Wow, I should not post when knackered.
Yes. At least two, a red on and a green one.
Wow, I should not post when knackered.
I wonder how Apple would deal with this:
https://www.kickstarter.com/pr...
Because emojis are gay.
Seems like being conservative is being rather over-sensitive about everything.
Having watched the RNC, this is accurate. It is fear, and it is illustrated by people losing their shit over this silly and stupid thing. This entire thread show it.
It's an emoji, a think you are supposed to hate anyway because those damn kids and their phones, and Apple took a position you disagree with. No need to get all indignant about it.
Of course they need to get indignant about it. My more crypto-conservative friends are always indignant, and they just need to find things to express their indignance. Dunno if indignance is a word or not, but it fits.
I tend to send texts to the perpetually outraged set with inappropriate emoticons, just to confuse them. Then again, many of them don't use texts because you know, its stuff those damn kids use.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Apple changes a gun to a water pistol and conservatives are the over "sensitive" ones?
You can't send text messages with a douche bottle.
Ohhhh the emoji, I thought you meant the phone since anyone who uses it must need one.
Now how the hell am I supposed to emoji the lyrics to paper planes?!?
"All I wanna do is [squirt] [squirt] [squirt] [squirt] and a $$" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Because the progressives don't make a big fuss over microaggressions, safe spaces, and trigger warnings.
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However there is being liberal than there is being crazy liberal.
The type of liberal where any idea that falls under the conservative category must be stopped.
Changing from a real gun to a water gun changes the meaning of the message.
Okay - you are correct, but also missing one important point. Liability. It isn't that difficult to get shot and killed here, whether it is from stand your ground laws, or traffic stops. Or from just pissing someone off. So in this land of litigation, it is well within the possibility that someone might see a pistol emoticon, decide they are under threat from the sender, and dispatch them with extreme prejudice.
And while a court case is likely to exonerate the killer, the resulting civil suits might find the jury willing to extract from the deep pockets of Apple, a monetary compensation for the dead person's family.
It's a weird place we live in, and don't for a minute think that my bizzare scenario won't ever play out. And from what I have seen, conservatives use the court systems with as much panache as do liberals.
People are going to have different opinions and to many people a gun isn't an image of violence. But a tool and a symbol of freedom. To change that image to a water pistol is infringing on free speech.
That is a little far fetched. It ends up arguing for the inclusion of every possible emoticon in order to avoid infringing free speech. Does this mean the producers of emoticons must include little KKK hoods? Besides, nothing is stopping a person who really wants to show their love for a pistol from including a little picture of one with every text.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
You mean like every liberal in Hollywood. I hate guns and they should be confiscated like Australia, Matt Says as he releases with another Bourne movie where he shoots people and some he just kills with his bare hands proving again you don't need a gun to kill people.
Pussies! Although you could acid in a water gun....
Honestly, what did you guys expect? Apple is an image based company and the image they portray is "hip". Currently in the largest population centers its hip to be super liberal.
Yeah, they're taking a bold stance against guns, except when guns make them money.
Pssst..... everyone, it isn't "libtards against guns" - its liability. Sweet Jeebuz in a smartcar, when an emoticon becomes a second amendment flashpoint, perhaps it isn't the "libtards" that have a really big problem.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
"the most controversial new change is that the pistol emoji will be replaced with a green water gun emoji"
In the US maybe, but no one else on the planet gives a crap.
Just, no. I have not given my children permission to use my car -- in fact, it's prohibited in all cases except when I expressly allow it for a specific purpose and duration. Anything else is theft, and yes, I could press charges if I wanted to. It sounds like you're either a self-entitled child, or a very irresponsible adult.
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
All my ancestors died during the Irish potato famine you tactless bastard.
Because the progressives don't make a big fuss over microaggressions, safe spaces, and trigger warnings.
The kook section sure does! And that is why I mentioned the RNC. Their fear is now codified as the position of the party.
Which is to say that the left wing kooks are a small portion of the Democrats. Noisy and obnoxious, acknowledged but not particularly powerful.
Which is to say the Right wing kooks now run the Republican party. Noisy and obnoxious, and in total control
Its why the Veterans of Foreign Wars are now your enemy, because a Gold Star mother is an acceptable target for your official kookiness.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Pathetic
If it takes the tech companies and philanthropists like Soros and Bloomberg to stop the gun violence in the US, so much the better. A good example is NYC. They have reasonable firearm laws that have passed the Supreme Court when it comes to the 2A. This needs to be done everywhere else in the US.
Why do people like you read slashdot? This is a serious question. Where did all the trump morons come from?
Why do people like you read slashdot? This is a serious question. Where did all the false dichotomies come from?
Does Apple realize that pretending to shoot someone and using a gun emoji are both STILL contributing to the ideology that shooting is OK?
PSA:
Making a gun look like a water gun encourages kids to go out and play with a water gun in some minute way, which in turn encourages them to use guns in service. My point is, you can't erase human ability to seek out guns as long as guns exist anywhere, including tiny images, including toy shops, including the every news channel. If guns did not exist, we would find a new way to kill each other. Here's the punch line every democunt needs to learn, you can't solve violence by pasting something happy and cheerful in it's place. People are not happy and cheerful 100% of the time, so stop trying to make the world equal, and just focus on solving problems iteratively and locally. Stop depending on your sub-par Fed to solve every problem, just solve 1 problem really well. P.S. The first idea that pops into your head is not the holy grail be-all-end-all solution so stop acting like hypocritical narcissists (e.g. subsidized healthcare does not fix overcharging, poor staffing, or greed). If you really think there is enough for everyone (food, wood, homes, yachts) stop protesting and whining about who's lives matter more and go and dig up/grow/build what you need. If you can't do what you want, learn from your predecessors and do it illegally and as safely as you can until it is legal. If you plan on doing something sinister, please don't. Everyone needs a gun to protect themselves.
Rubber bands are micro-aggression to those who have latex allergies.
NRRPT/RCT
Yes they appear differently on different platforms.
Indeed. Sometimes they appear identically to what is on your screen. Sometimes they appear a little differently. Sometimes they appear as just a box. And sometimes, they don't display at all!
#fuckemojis #noemojismatter #textemoticons4life
People are going to have different opinions and to many people a gun isn't an image of violence. But a tool and a symbol of freedom. To change that image to a water pistol is infringing on free speech.
That is a little far fetched. It ends up arguing for the inclusion of every possible emoticon in order to avoid infringing free speech.
No it doesn't. It argues against changing existing emoticons after they have been released, and your attempt to claim otherwise reveals your true intentions.
Does this mean the producers of emoticons must include little KKK hoods?
Does such an emoticon exist today? No? Then no they are not required to include one.
Besides, nothing is stopping a person who really wants to show their love for a pistol from including a little picture of one with every text.
You can't block free speech by changing a picture, but you change the meaning of past speech and that is wrong.
Let me repeat that again, since you so obviously skipped it in the parent post, and I imagine you might skip it again this time.
You can't block free speech by changing a picture, but you change the meaning of past speech and that is wrong.
And once more for good measure.
You can't block free speech by changing a picture, but you change the meaning of past speech and that is wrong.
I'm willing to make an exception for the original batch of emoji: unicode has plenty of other miscellanious symbols and dingbats and the custom of adding specific chunks of 'bad unicode practice' characters in order to facilitate the demise of legacy encodings is a longstanding and accepted one.
Beyond that point, though, things descended into insanity. Unicode already has a nearly hopeless task(encode all the symbols used in natural langages, plus some other math, phonetic, etc. stuff? That is...ambitious.); and its design is really best suited to alphabet-based languages and technical stuff with restricted symbol sets, which are effectively alphabets without a natural language. Character-based languages and ones with a need for digraphs and ligatures and such are more difficult and complex; but some major world languages qualify, so they are worth the effort. Pictographic stuff is a just plain lousy fit for Unicode's glyph/rendering concept, since the glyph and the rendering aren't really easy to separate when dealing with pictographs. You can get away with it for largely static pictographic symbol sets(various dead languages, Egyption hieroglyphs, Linear A and B, etc. have been included for the convenience of scholars in those areas; and it isn't elegant but you don't have somebody demanding a new glyph every ten minutes so it's largely inert); but for 'living' pictographic applications, especially ones with both a constant parade of new proposals and various hot-button demands for changes(guns, skin tones, assorted family representations, etc.) Unicode is a terrible fit and the task is essentially unbounded.
I don't know if the better approach is something along the lines of the one you describe, with a specially tagged string that gets a picture if available or is displayed as a fallback if not; or whether an image-based approach for the standardized embedding of small PNG images in text streams(or something to that effect, I leave the question of best implementation to the experts) is the better way to go; but Unicode sure as hell isn't the correct answer.
I imagine that the problem is complicated by the fact that a lot of emoji are transferred in situations where the message might go over one of the newer, fully IP based, messaging services; but also might end up being shoved into an SMS/MMS(and possibly both, if you send a message to multiple people who are receiving it on different devices with different service plans); so some of the more flexible and architecturally sane options would work fine on the newer messaging mechanisms; but if you want little pictures in SMS overloading Unicode is certainly cheaper than having a message with some emoji in it end up being broken into a bunch of MMS messages(each billed separately and typically at a higher rate than SMS) and then reassembled.
The fact that SMS needs to die is a separate issue; but I suspect that it isn't helping in this case.
No it doesn't. It argues against changing existing emoticons after they have been released, and your attempt to claim otherwise reveals your true intentions.
Seriously, if this raises your blood pressure because your rights as stated in the constitution are being egregiously violated, you should either take Apple to court, or find more productive things to do with your life. Like just about anything including trimming your nose hair. My limit of interest is just about exhausted, other than to point out that we might move the conversation to how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. It's just about that important. But hey, feel free to sue Apple for infringing on your first and second amendment rights.
So have fun, and be glad that emoji are on your outrage meter. That means you are living a pretty stress free life.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
So anyone who isn't afraid of a gun is a Trump moron? Classy!
Then prove it. What statement was a lie? What is the truth? The "lie" is that I'm giving a truth you don't want to hear. Nothing more.
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Anything else is theft, and yes, I could press charges if I wanted to.
Nope. Define "theft". Points for using one of the many legal definitions available online.
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Prove it? Your pants are on fire!
This is a really bad idea, if you consider what emoji are.
Emoji are the idea, not to send tiny graphics, but to have a standard codepoint for smileys. Everyone can implement them and use their icon set for display. Either to have a strong brand, or to allow users to theme them or just because they have no rights on the graphics from other vendors.
Now there already were problems. Take the pistol icon, which had the problem that it had different directions in different sets. I do not know which set it was, but let's assume its apple vs. google.
Now they take it a step further and apple replaces the pistol with a water gun, while google did not yet do this.
Here a smiley example:
(smiley)(pistol)(female smiley)
Apple interpretation: I shoot with water on my girlfriend (and we have fun)
Google interpretation: I shoot with a pistol in my head where she's there (maybe because we have trouble)
Considering, that smileys were the idea to convey emotions words cannot, its not only silly to have smileys for objects, but even more stupid to use non-matching icon sets. Remember the hairy heart trouble?
https://www.engadget.com/2014/...
Even the unicode consortium recommends to find better long term solutions:
http://www.unicode.org/reports...
> The longer-term goal for implementations should be to support embedded graphics, in addition to the emoji characters. Embedded graphics allow arbitrary emoji symbols, and are not dependent on additional Unicode encoding. Some examples of this are found in Skype and LINE—see the emoji press page for more examples.
We'll add sarcasm tags for you next time.
You won't even specify which statement you think is a lie. Pathetic attempt at a troll. Next time, indicate what you object to. None of it is a lie. It's all true, according to published accounts of the events. That you don't like it, doesn't make it false.
And it can't be a lie, because that's the account I've heard and believe. At "worst", it's a mistake or error. A lie requires knowing it's wrong, and spreading it anyway. I'm just summarizing the news and Wiki entry about it. Someone may have lied to them, but I'm not lying, even if spreading someone else's lies. Go fix Wikipedia, and the news reports.
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That does sound a lot more elegant...
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
I don't have an iDevice, but from googling around it appears that the answer is no. You can't even change the font, not that you can do that on Android either without additional software and root.
Actually, Googling for "change emoji font" seems to work without root on (some) Androids - at least when you change to iPhone emojis, or so the title of the most of the first couple hits suggest.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Who was it again that said "Conservatives always say that "Political Correctness" is about people being over-sensitive to words - but mention "holidays" in December and you are waging a War Against Christmas.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Apple changes a gun to a water pistol and conservatives are the over "sensitive" ones?
You are right - they didn't say anything back when Microsoft changed it to a ray gun in 2012 - odd that they changed it back just when this story broke.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
And nobody cares.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Normally I'm quite liberal and a strong supporter of free speech, but... Christmas should be banned. The forced merriment and endless playback of Now That's What I Call Xmas 2003 on repeat is tantamount to torture and a clear violation of the Geneva Convention.
I'm not even joking, I really hate Christmas.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Pssst..... everyone, it isn't "libtards against guns" - its liability. Sweet Jeebuz in a smartcar, when an emoticon becomes a second amendment flashpoint, perhaps it isn't the "libtards" that have a really big problem.
I really don't care what Apple does with its emoji. But do you seriously think it's going to make any difference in liability when students get kicked out of school for biting pop tarts to make a "gun" shape? Hoplophobia is out of control in this country.
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
Some people see Apple as hip. Maybe in the past when Jobs was at the helm. What I see is a trend into PC trashdom. More cheaply made with each evolution, overpriced and lacking the outstanding innovation of the past. They can't coast on their reputation forever. Grow a pair Apple.
Pssst..... everyone, it isn't "libtards against guns" - its liability. Sweet Jeebuz in a smartcar, when an emoticon becomes a second amendment flashpoint, perhaps it isn't the "libtards" that have a really big problem.
I really don't care what Apple does with its emoji. But do you seriously think it's going to make any difference in liability when students get kicked out of school for biting pop tarts to make a "gun" shape? Hoplophobia is out of control in this country.
I thohught it was fear of Pop Tarts - Hell you see what one of those does if you leave it in the toaster too long? But semi seriously, I Kellogs getting sued is far fetched. Or then again, maybe not.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Does this work (from dictionary.law.com)?
theft
n. the generic term for all crimes in which a person intentionally and fraudulently takes personal property of another without permission or consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use (including potential sale).
Stop! Dremel time!
Yes, that works. "Convert" means "become legal owner of". So if you "steal" someone's car for a joyride, and leave it broken by the side of the road when you are done, that's not actually theft. That's why GTA was invented (the criminal charge, not the game). It's simply not theft. It may be auto-theft, a non-theft crime with "theft" in the title, but it isn't theft.
If the son took the car to sell it to steal the money from the sale, it's theft. But just because a person is banned from using your things doesn't mean that temporary use of them is "theft".
Your definition exactly matches what I said. An actual law may have made it more clear.
http://www.statutes.legis.stat...
"A person commits an offense if he unlawfully [transfers the title of] property with intent to [withhold property from the owner permanently]."
That's the uniform definition of theft. I just like using TX laws because they are all online, and easily searchable.
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I think it could be argued that since he killed his mom, Adam took the gun with the intention of permanently withholding it from her. Would that not constitute theft?
Stop! Dremel time!
Would that not constitute theft?
It would not. He didn't "take" it at that point. It was still under the owner's control. It was not theft until after the first murder. Back to the car analogy, if you took the keys for the car, with the intention of stealing the car later, did you already steal the car because you have the keys to it and "want" to take it later? She left the gun unsecured in her house. At the time of her death, the gun was unsecured in her house. It's hard to say Adam stole it when the item was still in the same condition as she left it. Like a car in the garage. It's not "stolen" until it's removed. And as the owner was dead, there was nobody to steal it from. As her heir, it seems like he would be the likely owner after her death.
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Of course we are. We can't keep paying absurd salaries to a limited pool of engineers. It isn't fair. We need to spread the wealth to a larger pool of engineers and get more equal across the board. Imagine if there were only 100,000 engineers but now there were one million engineers. The world would be better off because of it!