Well, there is at least one person (clearly). But there needs to be a market, and I think this thread contains plenty of reasons why that market is very small.
One of my biggest music needs is constant volume. This is how I keep the sounds of other conversations blocked out. Quiet or slow moments let other words in, and frustrate me. My go-to's are trance, video game music, thrash metal (ok, yes, I'm old) and (gulp) power metal. If there are lyrics in power metal they're nearly guaranteed to be either vapid or indecipherable. Either works, as they are not distracting.
If I'm at home, I can switch to something relaxing.
"It is nearly impossible to solo after probably level 25."
This is horribly, blatantly false in the case of WoW. Any class, with no help with gear whatsoever, can solo their way to 70. Gear makes a huge difference in PvP and raiding, but not for leveling. You just might go somewhat slower. You can't do all the quests, but there are way more quests than you need to level. You don't need gear for soloing, period. The most famous speed leveler in the world does so with nothing but gear found along the way.
That said:
"Point is, if you only have about an hour or two a week to play, forget MMORPGs. Play single player games like NWN2 or some such."
I totally agree with that. I think the whole point of an MMORPG is to play with others, and that just gets frustrating if you don't have the time to invest in the kind of guild social network that makes it worthwhile.
So, is there a file browser which supports tab completion as well? The best of both worlds... you use tab as you're heading through a mess of directories, and it auto opens the folders as you go... ?
I have to admit, I don't transfer files via ssh/sftp often enough that I don't have to spend a second thinking about exactly what to do "do I put the / at the end of the remote path?".
I also recently heard that KDE 3.2 finally fixed the keybinding system (you used to have to make a menu item to bind a key to it)... maybe it's time to check it out again.
I think everyone is missing the point of my original post. I don't feel elitist, I'm just afraid that with the popularity of Gnome and KDE, that I'm missing out on something I will like.
I don't knock that other people use it if they like it. I just have a hard time understanding why they do. So many do, that I think I must be 'wrong' to not be using it. I'm just trying to find out if that's true, or if it makes sense for me to continue as I am.
And there were some good cases made in this thread today (well, one at least) that I'll think about.
Good example of when tab complete fails. But this is hardly a good example of a good use for a file selector. Terminal cut and paste is perfect for just this example, and guaranteed to be faster.
Now, if you needed to select 5 files from this list, probably still faster.
10 files, well nautilus might be easier. Of course now you have to browse to your destination directory...
So far I buy the thumbnail/preview for sorting pictures. That's a huge pain in a terminal.
What integration benefits do you mean? This is an honest question. Every year or so I try out the latest Gnome and/or KDE, and discover they don't do anything for me other than eye candy (which I like, but doesn't seem that important, and could probably be obtained in other simple windowmanagers if I cared enough).
Right now I'm using pekwm, which has no eye candy (can't even seem to get many of the themes to work), but is stable and fast, and gives me tabbed windows which I do see as a major benefit for the type of work I do (and yes, I am a software developer). It also gives me flexible and powerful key bindings, which I find more efficient than a toolbar/panel what have you.
I just am waiting to see what Gnome or KDE (or even XFCE) have to offer as far as integration. What actually works better? What actually saves you time?
Do people honestly use file selector windows and drag and drop, and find that more efficient than tab completing in a terminal window? Do I just need more practice?
Release notes don't indicate we need to do a DB dump, so we dump the db 'just-in-case' but don't suck it back in again before attempting to use the new version on our repo.
Fire up svn up => core dump.
Ok, so maybe it _does_ need a db roll. Fair enough, 1.0 release, we can do that (we've done it a bunch of times).
Attempt to suck in our db dump => core dump
Revert to previous version (version.35) and the database recovery goes w/o a hitch.
This is the first time we've had this kind of trouble, probably after the feeling of 'jilted again' wears off we'll have to dig a bit more to see if we tweaked something badly.
In other news, today I also got a temporary full commercial license key to try out Bitkeeper for a month from the friendly folks at bitmover.com.
It converted over a couple of our projects from CVS nicely, and is very user friendly.
If only it supported nested repositories and did binary deltas...
svn+ssh requires all the Unix users that authenticate through ssh to be in the same group, and also requires some other magic to work. Maybe you got that magic wrong. When a permission problem occurs, your repository often needs to be "recovered" in order to fix it. Subversion's "svnadmin recover" can be used in these (usually rare) cases.
You mean like every 3 days?
This thread just seems more proof that other people have had similar problems. Even though they may have gotten things working, they don't know why.
I've been following subversion for 2 years and waiting for it to be ready.
Last build we tried was a couple of months ago.
Try compiling it on different architectures (ours are i686-linux and hppa2.0-hpux11.00), mixing slight version differences, mixing which server you use (svn, http).
Then say hello to _constant_ intervention by someone who has admin privileges to recover your hosed repository.
I hate to say it, but now of course with 1.0 we'll try again. But I wouldn've thought they were a long way off based on our problems.
And this is with just 3 people using it on a test project? CVS has bugged me for years, but it can handle the basics without error.
I'm willing to admit that something we did could've caused all our problems (funny compiler flag or version, wrong switch enabled), but I can't afford the time spent trying to get a superior, but buggy, tool to just do the basics, even if the root cause is in some arcane step in the build process (which is truly hideous).
I wish them luck, but honestly I've never been able to figure out how all these happy subversion users ever got it to work.
There's still time though to pull the plug on our imminent order of Bitkeeper if by some miracle things have improved a lot very quickly.
Thanks for the feedback. We've got legal looking at the GPL, LGPL, and BSD license. They've been asking questions about exactly what you mentioned (IBM licensing, etc). Seems like they want to join the bandwagon.
The thing is, we use TONS of open source here. None of our code is released (it's all internal) so we haven't had to worry too much about the terms.
But I think corporations should give something back.
Plus, if we get laid off we can still have our code without sneaking a copy out:)
Currently here at the megacorp where I work, a colleague and I are talking with the legal department for releasing some of our code as open source.
We've found that while there are official guidelines for using open source software within the company, we are trailblazing as far as choosing a license to release the code under.
Has anyone else gone through this process? Can you share any information?
Well SpamAssassin work WAY better for you than anyone else. I bet most of your ability to avoid spam is that your address has been carefully protected.
Good idea. Speaking from experience, SpamAssassin is great (I couldn't live without it) but I still get a few in my inbox each day despite it.
I never said I was representative. What I'm implying is that the "bad" people who need to be controlled are not "the people who use maphack", but "the people who use other cheat programs". So banning people who use maphack is stupid.
I thought your original point was that tons of people would stop playing if map-hack was disabled (in some way, via bans or whatever). That's what I was questioning (being a few months removed from playing much on bnet I am not even necessarily disagreeing, just questioning). To answer whether or not that is true means your arguments must be representative of the bnet d2 population.
I agree that the bad people who need to be controlled are not maphack users.
Fair enough. I'm not sure you're representative of those on battle-net now. Certainly maphack doesn't hurt me--I don't duel and don't care to compete with others for items.
And I think that most of these will simply stop playing if maphack is disabled.
You're kidding, right? I can't believe anybody who is still playing D2 after all this time would quit over maphack.
There are two big reasons I can think of that people use maphack:
Trying to see what other's equipment is. Come on, is this really that important?
Speeding up Mephisto/Baal Runs. Assuming anybody really does this that much anymore, it will be nerfed during the next patch anyway, as they've stated they will be trying to discourage the farming of certain bosses.
I got the impression that they can't disable it, just detect it. This post is a threat saying that people will be banned in the future if it is detected.
Did people leave in droves the last time accounts were deleted? Perhaps some, but there are still a lot of people interested.
I'm looking forward to the patch myself. I wish they would do more against hacks and cheats but I'm glad they're still working on a patch for this old game as its still better than any of the new games I've tried to play lately.
Thanks for the help. If I was smarter, I would have done that and never figured out the real problem. Luckily I didn't think of that so I found the real problem.
I found out that as of XFree86 4.2, it is expecting to see.Xdefaults-hostname instead. So I made a link.
Also Ctrl-Alt-Backspace restarts the Xserver, but not the Xsession (didn't know that!), so it took me a while to realize that the above had fixed it. I had to telinit 3 before all the apps would pick up the configuration. Seems a little weird but everything is working now.
So I just tried it again, and it has been working! I just wasn't creating my meeting requests with the "click to accept" option. They were getting scheduled in my calendar (my little test meetings) but I didn't notice because I was expecting to have to click and accept.
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Well, there is at least one person (clearly). But there needs to be a market, and I think this thread contains plenty of reasons why that market is very small.
This could be a pretty good theory. I own one. To be more precise, I have owned 3 of them (2 sent back for warranty due to hardware failure).
It's wonderful when it works.
Now I'm left wondering if I should keep it as a collector's item instead of playing it (and then have it fail on me).
Just like Google Fi and Google Music (family plan), gapps accounts can't use it.
It seemed like such a good idea back then.
I played Gumball quite a bit during grade school. Loderunner I played to death on the original mac, didn't care as much for the Apple II version.
But seriously if Slashdot starts doing clickbait garbage headlines like this, I'll probably be done. And I've been here for a very long time.
All this efficient check in and automated testing, just so they can send spam to every email they get their hands on.
My employer specifically marks linked in spam as "NOT SPAM". So custom filters it is.
One of my biggest music needs is constant volume. This is how I keep the sounds of other conversations blocked out. Quiet or slow moments let other words in, and frustrate me. My go-to's are trance, video game music, thrash metal (ok, yes, I'm old) and (gulp) power metal. If there are lyrics in power metal they're nearly guaranteed to be either vapid or indecipherable. Either works, as they are not distracting.
If I'm at home, I can switch to something relaxing.
"It is nearly impossible to solo after probably level 25."
This is horribly, blatantly false in the case of WoW. Any class, with no help with gear whatsoever, can solo their way to 70. Gear makes a huge difference in PvP and raiding, but not for leveling. You just might go somewhat slower. You can't do all the quests, but there are way more quests than you need to level. You don't need gear for soloing, period. The most famous speed leveler in the world does so with nothing but gear found along the way.
That said:
"Point is, if you only have about an hour or two a week to play, forget MMORPGs. Play single player games like NWN2 or some such."
I totally agree with that. I think the whole point of an MMORPG is to play with others, and that just gets frustrating if you don't have the time to invest in the kind of guild social network that makes it worthwhile.
They dropped Teamware because Larry left. Teamware is BK's immediate predecessor.
In my experience, nothing has all of these things. I use BK at work, but before I ended up there I tried pretty much everything.
Like Larry himself says, BK doesn't have a killer feature. It has a great model and lots of little features that hang together well.
I hope this event will push open source SCM development to approach the quality of BK.
That sounds convincing to me.
So, is there a file browser which supports tab completion as well? The best of both worlds... you use tab as you're heading through a mess of directories, and it auto opens the folders as you go... ?
I have to admit, I don't transfer files via ssh/sftp often enough that I don't have to spend a second thinking about exactly what to do "do I put the / at the end of the remote path?".
I also recently heard that KDE 3.2 finally fixed the keybinding system (you used to have to make a menu item to bind a key to it)... maybe it's time to check it out again.
I think everyone is missing the point of my original post. I don't feel elitist, I'm just afraid that with the popularity of Gnome and KDE, that I'm missing out on something I will like.
I don't knock that other people use it if they like it. I just have a hard time understanding why they do. So many do, that I think I must be 'wrong' to not be using it. I'm just trying to find out if that's true, or if it makes sense for me to continue as I am.
And there were some good cases made in this thread today (well, one at least) that I'll think about.
Good example of when tab complete fails. But this is hardly a good example of a good use for a file
selector. Terminal cut and paste is perfect for just this example, and guaranteed to be faster.
Now, if you needed to select 5 files from this list, probably still faster.
10 files, well nautilus might be easier. Of course now you have to browse to your destination directory...
So far I buy the thumbnail/preview for sorting pictures. That's a huge pain in a terminal.
But not this example.
What integration benefits do you mean? This is an honest question. Every year or so I try out the latest Gnome and/or KDE, and discover they don't do anything for me other than eye candy (which I like, but doesn't seem that important, and could probably be obtained in other simple windowmanagers if I cared enough).
Right now I'm using pekwm, which has no eye candy (can't even seem to get many of the themes to work), but is stable and fast, and gives me tabbed windows which I do see as a major benefit for the type of work I do (and yes, I am a software developer). It also gives me flexible and powerful key bindings, which I find more efficient than a toolbar/panel what have you.
I just am waiting to see what Gnome or KDE (or even XFCE) have to offer as far as integration. What actually works better? What actually saves you time?
Do people honestly use file selector windows and drag and drop, and find that more efficient than tab completing in a terminal window? Do I just need more practice?
OK, so today we tried again.
.35) and the database recovery goes w/o a hitch.
Release notes don't indicate we need to do a DB dump, so we dump the db 'just-in-case' but don't suck it back in again before attempting to use the new version on our repo.
Fire up svn up => core dump.
Ok, so maybe it _does_ need a db roll. Fair enough, 1.0 release, we can do that (we've done it a bunch of times).
Attempt to suck in our db dump => core dump
Revert to previous version (version
This is the first time we've had this kind of trouble, probably after the feeling of 'jilted again' wears off we'll have to dig a bit more to see if we tweaked something badly.
In other news, today I also got a temporary full commercial license key to try out Bitkeeper for a month from the friendly folks at bitmover.com.
It converted over a couple of our projects from CVS nicely, and is very user friendly.
If only it supported nested repositories and did binary deltas...
You mean like every 3 days?
This thread just seems more proof that other people have had similar problems. Even though they may have gotten things working, they don't know why.
But--that said, I'm sure we'll try it again.
I've been following subversion for 2 years and waiting for it to be ready.
Last build we tried was a couple of months ago.
Try compiling it on different architectures (ours are i686-linux and hppa2.0-hpux11.00), mixing slight version differences, mixing which server you use (svn, http).
Then say hello to _constant_ intervention by someone who has admin privileges to recover your hosed repository.
I hate to say it, but now of course with 1.0 we'll try again. But I wouldn've thought they were a long way off based on our problems.
And this is with just 3 people using it on a test project? CVS has bugged me for years, but it can handle the basics without error.
I'm willing to admit that something we did could've caused all our problems (funny compiler flag or version, wrong switch enabled), but I can't afford the time spent trying to get a superior, but buggy, tool to just do the basics, even if the root cause is in some arcane step in the build process (which is truly hideous).
I wish them luck, but honestly I've never been able to figure out how all these happy subversion users ever got it to work.
There's still time though to pull the plug on our imminent order of Bitkeeper if by some miracle things have improved a lot very quickly.
Yes, but does it only work with POP3? Looking over the page makes that appear to be the case...
Thanks for the feedback. We've got legal looking at the GPL, LGPL, and BSD license. They've been asking questions about exactly what you mentioned (IBM licensing, etc). Seems like they want to join the bandwagon.
:)
The thing is, we use TONS of open source here. None of our code is released (it's all internal) so we haven't had to worry too much about the terms.
But I think corporations should give something back.
Plus, if we get laid off we can still have our code without sneaking a copy out
Currently here at the megacorp where I work, a colleague and I are talking with the legal department for releasing some of our code as open source.
We've found that while there are official guidelines for using open source software within the company, we are trailblazing as far as choosing a license to release the code under.
Has anyone else gone through this process? Can you share any information?
Well SpamAssassin work WAY better for you than anyone else. I bet most of your ability to avoid spam is that your address has been carefully protected.
Good idea. Speaking from experience, SpamAssassin is great (I couldn't live without it) but I still get a few in my inbox each day despite it.
I thought your original point was that tons of people would stop playing if map-hack was disabled (in some way, via bans or whatever). That's what I was questioning (being a few months removed from playing much on bnet I am not even necessarily disagreeing, just questioning). To answer whether or not that is true means your arguments must be representative of the bnet d2 population.
I agree that the bad people who need to be controlled are not maphack users.
Fair enough. I'm not sure you're representative of those on battle-net now. Certainly maphack doesn't hurt me--I don't duel and don't care to compete with others for items.
- Trying to see what other's equipment is. Come on, is this really that important?
- Speeding up Mephisto/Baal Runs. Assuming anybody really does this that much anymore, it will be nerfed during the next patch anyway, as they've stated they will be trying to discourage the farming of certain bosses.
I got the impression that they can't disable it, just detect it. This post is a threat saying that people will be banned in the future if it is detected. Did people leave in droves the last time accounts were deleted? Perhaps some, but there are still a lot of people interested. I'm looking forward to the patch myself. I wish they would do more against hacks and cheats but I'm glad they're still working on a patch for this old game as its still better than any of the new games I've tried to play lately.Thanks for the help. If I was smarter, I would have done that and never figured out the real problem. Luckily I didn't think of that so I found the real problem.
.Xdefaults-hostname instead. So I made a link.
I found out that as of XFree86 4.2, it is expecting to see
Also Ctrl-Alt-Backspace restarts the Xserver, but not the Xsession (didn't know that!), so it took me a while to realize that the above had fixed it. I had to telinit 3 before all the apps would pick up the configuration. Seems a little weird but everything is working now.
I just installed RH 8.0 and things are going well except for some reason my .Xdefaults file is being ignored.
Anyone know what might be going on? I'm sure I'm missing something really obvious...
So I just tried it again, and it has been working! I just wasn't creating my meeting requests with the "click to accept" option. They were getting scheduled in my calendar (my little test meetings) but I didn't notice because I was expecting to have to click and accept.
Thanks for the help!