The icons can float around - I was watching the demo at macworld, and there were a number of icons on the desktop, that steve pulled in and out of the dock with ease. There is a quicktime demo of this on apple's website as well.
By the way, I know that there are two or three extensions to the mac os that have done this for years. I don't recall their names at the moment, but I've seen them before.
Linux users complain that the mac os is not customizable, but it's actually just not customizable with a text editor.
Take a look at the preview linked in the story - it is much more than a nice interface with anti-aliasing. The core graphics library is pdf-based, so every application inherits the ability to read and create pdfs. The library handles not only built-in anti-aliasing but rotating, warping, transparency, and other cool stuff. If you've seen any of the demos you would understand.
By the way, I think that many of the people here don't understand the _current_ advantages of the mac interface, let alone the new one. I've used both macos and X-windows for significant amounts of time, and X pales to the consitency and predictability of the mac os. To have the macos with all of the advantages of unix as well will be amazing.
If you look at any of the slides they showed at macworld, it is clearly obvious that the graphics code is _not_ in the kernel space. The kernel level is called Darwin, and consists of Mach+BSD. On top of that sit Quartz (their pdf-based 2D graphics libraries), OpenGL, and Quicktime.
(By the way, that quake3 demo made me wonder the same thing, but I'm guessing the guy doing the demo just didn't think about it - he didn't seem as slick as steve jobs)
> While I don't support the silly actions of WaReZ D00Dz, > you've really got to wonder if the university > applies the same high standards to on-campus > software licensing, the distribution of > photocopied materials in class, and the use of > trademarked names and logos in its publications.
I can't speak about campus software licensing (althought from most appearances they are compliant) but I do consulting work for the University Relations department, which handles all the copy centers, as well as course packets, and they are _very_ careful to make sure that all copyrights are protected.
yes - they are using egcs. Yes, their source will be released. In fact, they are working with the egcs team to integrate the numerous bug fixes and improvements they have made into the main source code, and I think altivec support is one of those improvements. So everyone shall benefit. Go Open Source!
If it's anything like Final Cut, what you do is capture it at a low quality, do all the editing you want to at the low quality, which is easy for an iMac to handle. When you get the clip edited the way you want, it captures the video again at a high quality, except now it only gets the part you want in the clip, and it renders all your effects at a high quality (you get a low quality preview) and assembles the entire thing at a high quality - it's really pretty cool. I got a demo of Final Cut and I was really impressed.
No, the author is correct - Mac OS X is based on Mach (v3 instead of v2.5), and while I don't think the BSD layer will be installed by default, it will be available.
> It's my personal feeling that Apples are for technophobic artist types.
Now that's just rude. Personally, I'm one of Apple's biggest fans. I'm also the proud owner of a Bachelor's degree from Carnegie Mellon in Information and Decision Systems. I also run Linux on the PC that sits next to my Mac. So much for stereotypes.
In my opinon, those of you who think that the mac 'coddles' people, makes all your decisions for you, or any of that other garbage, haven't really tried the mac, or got hopelessly disoriented because there was no command line. If you bothered to use it much, you would find that there are many ways to customize and control a mac, they just don't consist of editing text files. If you spent the amount of time trying to learn to really use a mac that you spent learning Linux, I think you would be extremely suprised.
Consider this as well - by open-sourcing the kernel and lower layers of their next-generation OS (based on the mach 3.0 microkernel & *BSD if you didn't know) they make it possible for their next OS to run on most _any_ PPC machine. - Build yourself a kernel that runs on your machine & you can install MacOS on top. Good for everyone - the newbies & nontechies will still buy Apple's machines, and us techies can build our own!
> Neither did I. I took a motherboard out of the box, put it in my chassis, plugged in two RAID cards (in addition to the onboard SCSI,) > plugged in my pair of CPUs, my industry-standard DIMMs (that I didn't pay double price for just because they were "Apple certified"...) > etc. Didn't ever flip any jumpers, didn't mess with any IRQs, let my OS autodetect everything.
No offense, but I find this a bit hard to believe. What motherboard? What RAID cards? What OS?
Try going to http://www.macbuy.com and choosing cpu upgrades from the hardware list. I currently see ~60 products from 6 or 7 companies for macs ranging from the 61xx series to the 7x00, 8x00, 9x00 series to the G3. Most of those open without having to remove any screws. I upgraded my 7500 to a 200mhz 604e in 5 minutes - it has worked flawlessly since I bought it. You can't tell me it was difficult to upgrade my Mac. (and the 200mhz card only cost me $99 a year ago).
Try going to http://www.macbuy.com and choosing cpu upgrades from the hardware list. I currently see ~60 products from 6 or 7 companies for macs ranging from the 61xx series to the 7x00, 8x00, 9x00 series to the G3. Most of those open without having to remove any screws. I upgraded my 7500 to a 200mhz 604e in 5 minutes - it has worked flawlessly since I bought it. You can't tell me it was difficult to upgrade my Mac. (and th 200mhz card only cost me $99 a year ago).
If you don't like the MacOS, run Linux/PPC on it. Better yet - wait for MacOS X. If the MacOS over a *BSD variant on the Mach 3 microkernal isn't 'modern' enough for you, you're just another biased mac hater. I appreciate macs for their good points, I appreciate linux for it's good points. The point of the article was the _awesome_ G4 hardware - not to give you another excuse to whine about the MacOS. If you don't like it, don't use it - just quit bitching about it. I don't bitch about linux's shortcomings to you.
No offense, but some of this sounds like some whining to me. I had plenty of friends in high school, was fairly popular, graduated from Carnegie Mellon, and am making a living as a consultant (mostly Perl & DB stuff). I personally take offense in that you think that my fitting in is because I was a "swallow dumbass who is basically a clone of whoever happens to be the most popular kid in school". I was one of about 5 kids in my school to have long hair, and dressed like a skate punk. Being different does not make you an outcast - it sounds like many of you look down on people who like athletics rather computers, or drinking beer on a saturday to playing Quake. Face it, people are different, and there are assholes at every level of society. I've met geeks that I can't stand, jocks that I love, and vice versa, and everybody in between. If you don't want to be generalized, don't generalize other people.
All the people complaining about apple re-releasing things under a more restrictive license need to actually look at the darwin web page - all third party projects are clearly separated under a heading which says this:
Third Party Projects: These projects are primarily maintained by another development effort. Currently ports of this software is maintained here in order to provide additional functionality to Darwin. This software is part of the Mac OS X Server product and is provided by Apple under the license of the upstream source, unmodified by the APSL. In general, feature additions and bug fixes which are not specific to or needed by the Darwin platform should be sent to the upstream source; it is an explicit goal that the diffs between this code and the original code be kept at a minimum, as we don't intend to compete with other Open Source initiatives.
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>A small PIC microcontroller can talk RS-232, but
> would have trouble with a full TCP/IP stack).
Some number of months ago slashdot had an article about a webserver & tcp/ip stack on a PIC microcontroller & a small flash ram chip.
I believe you're wrong about shift+navigation to extend text selections. This has been in the MacOS as far back as I can remember.
The icons can float around - I was watching the demo at macworld, and there were a number of icons on the desktop, that steve pulled in and out of the dock with ease. There is a quicktime demo of this on apple's website as well.
By the way, I know that there are two or three extensions to the mac os that have done this for years. I don't recall their names at the moment, but I've seen them before.
Linux users complain that the mac os is not customizable, but it's actually just not customizable with a text editor.
Take a look at the preview linked in the story - it is much more than a nice interface with anti-aliasing. The core graphics library is pdf-based, so every application inherits the ability to read and create pdfs. The library handles not only built-in anti-aliasing but rotating, warping, transparency, and other cool stuff. If you've seen any of the demos you would understand.
By the way, I think that many of the people here don't understand the _current_ advantages of the mac interface, let alone the new one. I've used both macos and X-windows for significant amounts of time, and X pales to the consitency and predictability of the mac os. To have the macos with all of the advantages of unix as well will be amazing.
If you look at any of the slides they showed at macworld, it is clearly obvious that the graphics code is _not_ in the kernel space. The kernel level is called Darwin, and consists of Mach+BSD. On top of that sit Quartz (their pdf-based 2D graphics libraries), OpenGL, and Quicktime.
(By the way, that quake3 demo made me wonder the same thing, but I'm guessing the guy doing the demo just didn't think about it - he didn't seem as slick as steve jobs)
> While I don't support the silly actions of WaReZ D00Dz,
> you've really got to wonder if the university
> applies the same high standards to on-campus
> software licensing, the distribution of
> photocopied materials in class, and the use of
> trademarked names and logos in its publications.
I can't speak about campus software licensing (althought from most appearances they are compliant) but I do consulting work for the University Relations department, which handles all the copy centers, as well as course packets, and they are _very_ careful to make sure that all copyrights are protected.
yes - they are using egcs. Yes, their source will be released. In fact, they are working with the egcs team to integrate the numerous bug fixes and improvements they have made into the main source code, and I think altivec support is one of those improvements. So everyone shall benefit. Go Open Source!
If it's anything like Final Cut, what you do is capture it at a low quality, do all the editing you want to at the low quality, which is easy for an iMac to handle. When you get the clip edited the way you want, it captures the video again at a high quality, except now it only gets the part you want in the clip, and it renders all your effects at a high quality (you get a low quality preview) and assembles the entire thing at a high quality - it's really pretty cool. I got a demo of Final Cut and I was really impressed.
But you can do it pretty easily in Applescript:
------------
tell application "Sherlock" to set mylist to search alias "Macintosh HD:" for "stuff"
tell application "Finder"
repeat with x in mylist
move x to desktop
end repeat
end tell
-------------
No, the author is correct - Mac OS X is based on Mach (v3 instead of v2.5), and while I don't think the BSD layer will be installed by default, it will be available.
Ian
> I'm an Apple hater going way back.
And we're all very proud. Go you.
> It's my personal feeling that Apples are for technophobic artist types.
Now that's just rude. Personally, I'm one of Apple's biggest fans. I'm also the proud owner of a Bachelor's degree from Carnegie Mellon in Information and Decision Systems. I also run Linux on the PC that sits next to my Mac. So much for stereotypes.
In my opinon, those of you who think that the mac 'coddles' people, makes all your decisions for you, or any of that other garbage, haven't really tried the mac, or got hopelessly disoriented because there was no command line. If you bothered to use it much, you would find that there are many ways to customize and control a mac, they just don't consist of editing text files. If you spent the amount of time trying to learn to really use a mac that you spent learning Linux, I think you would be extremely suprised.
Ian
Consider this as well - by open-sourcing the kernel and lower layers of their next-generation OS (based on the mach 3.0 microkernel & *BSD if you didn't know) they make it possible for their next OS to run on most _any_ PPC machine. - Build yourself a kernel that runs on your machine & you can install MacOS on top. Good for everyone - the newbies & nontechies will still buy Apple's machines, and us techies can build our own!
> Neither did I. I took a motherboard out of the box, put it in my chassis, plugged in two RAID cards (in addition to the onboard SCSI,)
> plugged in my pair of CPUs, my industry-standard DIMMs (that I didn't pay double price for just because they were "Apple certified"...)
> etc. Didn't ever flip any jumpers, didn't mess with any IRQs, let my OS autodetect everything.
No offense, but I find this a bit hard to believe. What motherboard? What RAID cards? What OS?
- gutter
www.newertech.com
www.sonnet.com
www.powerlogix.com
www.xlr8.com
Try going to http://www.macbuy.com and choosing cpu upgrades from the hardware list. I currently see ~60 products from 6 or 7 companies for macs ranging from the 61xx series to the 7x00, 8x00, 9x00 series to the G3. Most of those open without having to remove any screws. I upgraded my 7500 to a 200mhz 604e in 5 minutes - it has worked flawlessly since I bought it. You can't tell me it was difficult to upgrade my Mac. (and the 200mhz card only cost me $99 a year ago).
www.newertech.com
www.sonnet.com
www.powerlogix.com
www.xlr8.com
Try going to http://www.macbuy.com and choosing cpu upgrades from the hardware list. I currently see ~60 products from 6 or 7 companies for macs ranging from the 61xx series to the 7x00, 8x00, 9x00 series to the G3. Most of those open without having to remove any screws. I upgraded my 7500 to a 200mhz 604e in 5 minutes - it has worked flawlessly since I bought it. You can't tell me it was difficult to upgrade my Mac. (and th 200mhz card only cost me $99 a year ago).
If you don't like the MacOS, run Linux/PPC on it. Better yet - wait for MacOS X. If the MacOS over a *BSD variant on the Mach 3 microkernal isn't 'modern' enough for you, you're just another biased mac hater. I appreciate macs for their good points, I appreciate linux for it's good points. The point of the article was the _awesome_ G4 hardware - not to give you another excuse to whine about the MacOS. If you don't like it, don't use it - just quit bitching about it. I don't bitch about linux's shortcomings to you.
No offense, but some of this sounds like some whining to me. I had plenty of friends in high school, was fairly popular, graduated from Carnegie Mellon, and am making a living as a consultant (mostly Perl & DB stuff). I personally take offense in that you think that my fitting in is because I was a "swallow dumbass who is basically a clone of whoever happens to be the most popular kid in school". I was one of about 5 kids in my school to have long hair, and dressed like a skate punk. Being different does not make you an outcast - it sounds like many of you look down on people who like athletics rather computers, or drinking beer on a saturday to playing Quake. Face it, people are different, and there are assholes at every level of society. I've met geeks that I can't stand, jocks that I love, and vice versa, and everybody in between. If you don't want to be generalized, don't generalize other people.
Ian
All the people complaining about apple re-releasing things under a more restrictive license need to actually look at the darwin web page - all third party projects are clearly separated under a heading which says this:
Third Party Projects: These projects are primarily maintained by another
development effort. Currently ports of this software is maintained here in order to provide additional functionality to Darwin. This software is part of the Mac OS X Server product and is provided by Apple under the license of the upstream source, unmodified by the APSL.
In general, feature additions and bug fixes which are not specific to or needed by the Darwin platform should be sent to the upstream source; it is an explicit goal that the diffs between this code and the original code be kept at a minimum, as we don't intend to compete with other Open Source initiatives.