SCMS only prevents SERIAL copying. there is nothing that prevetns you from making more than 1 or 2 backups, right?
i'm not trying to pick a fight here so stop me if this argument has been rehashed, but if i drop my VCR, Sony has no obligation to correct my stupidity. if you destroy your CD, you buy another one too, right?
(yes i am naive) doesn't the number of copies depend on the EULA anyways? here, they are allowing you to make as many 1st generation, digital copies as you like, AFAIK.
I remember a few weeks ago there was that streaming radio interview with Chiariglione, some linux webpage, some guy from 2600.org, and the FSF. in that interview, Chiariglione addressed several issues involving "fair use", and he said (rightly) that and SDMI will provide someone with the ability still to copy, but not serially (like the presnet SCMS).
The FSF rep wasn't able to respond to this, but from my point of view, SDMI's ability to make a limited number of digital fulfills the "free speech" needs of the FSF, which was their main concern.
what do people think about that? do i have this wrong?
firstly, i think we should all welcome this great victory for SDMI, and we should congratulate them for changing the entire world so it is completely safe from evil music pirates. bottom line, release SDMI ***NOW*** so we can crak---errr... listen to the wonderful music on DVD-audio, buy digital music online and all that good stuff. in short, SDMI release music, players and everything RIGHT NOW!!!!!
this is the problem when one looks at MP3 purely as a technology. if you want to boil it down to pure psycho-acoustics, of course selective discard is the ultimate goal.
personally, i want to see mp3 music come as close to uncompressed music as possible. i want to encode my songs without tinnyness or that annoying "swoosh". to me, an effective method of sound compression has no compression artifacts and has an output exactly the same as the input.
i think people who really listen to music should go for MP3's that SOUND good, not just look good in a white paper.
if this bug is really 250million years old, it would be very interesting to see if they have antibiotic resistance genes, or even antibiotic resistance sequences contained in plasmids.
let me explain: over the last few years we have heard this big scare over the increasing number of bacteria that can no longer be treated with normal antibiotics. We call these "superbugs" (e.g. VRE = vancomysin resistant enterococcus). This is a big concern in the medical community because of their inability to treat such illnesses.
Antibiotic resistance has grown into a frightening spectre over the last few years, and it is largely blamed on our unchecked use of antibiotics: we use them not to treat but to prevent disease on a large scale. Farmers routinely add antibiotics to animal feed as a guard against infection. We buy antibacterial soap. crops are sprayed with antibiotic solutions to prevent crop loss due to disease.
bacteria that are exposed to these antibiotics may not recieve a dose large enough to kill it. if this is so, then the bacteria can pass those resistance genes on to its progeny, which reproduce once every 20 minutes. these genetic sequences that are passed down to subsequent generations can even be transfered from bacteria to bacteria, so those novel gene sequences can be swapped, even with bacteria of different strains!
we now see this everywhre... even bacteria in the soil and other "wild" bacteria (not grown in the lab) have penicillin resistance genes. so it is pretty exciting that bacteria that old was discovered. this bacteria can help answer questions as to the origins of bacterial resistance to antibiotics, and could answer questions regarding our behavior with the proactive use of antibiotics.
if we accept that SDMI, like any other encryption system, can be broken, then why boycott the hack-SDMI at all? even IF someone breaks SDMI for the contest and encryption is tightened, people will just break it again. and again. and again. We know this. we accept this as a fact. THEY are under the delusion that the ultimate watermarking system is still attainable.
ha ha.
there is NO WAY encryption will remain inpenetrable and the watermark remain unremovable, regardless of whether it is broken now or later. the point is, there will eventually be a crack for anything they throw at us, and the crack will be done way cheaper and quicker than all the time, money and effort the SDMI coalition will throw at it.
i think that whether it is cracked now or later is immaterial, just let them release stuff or not, i dont' care. Let them do their little encryption thing so i can get my DVD audio player sooner rather than later, and wait about 1/2 an hour after it is released for some hax0r to break whatever watermark they have dreamed up that week.
i type faster than i can write. why would a person want to purposely lower their efficency?
another thing is, i dont' see people wanting to write that badly. you don't see WACOM tablets flying off shelves.
the perfect thing this might be for is a niche market. walking through your house with an inputable flatpanel is better than lugging a laptop, so maybe a flatpanel in that application would be better. but definately, i think we need keyboards!
this has probably been iterated and reiterated, but for MD to "take off" (if it's not too late) as a viable mp3 format, they need to produce a cheap IDE drive. that way it could be used for data and music.
that's the one thing that CD's have going for them: cheap drives are available now to write discs that are easily transportable.
that's another reason things like rios and nomads and other mp3 players are not really worth the $$: you need to plug it into your computer to d/l the stuff, adding memory ain't cheap, and it's not like you can lend your tunes to anyone else unless you lend the whole player!
sony, get a cheap IDE MD writer to the peeps and bundle it with an equally cheap player. that'll get people's attention. and forget that funky memory stick idea (:
is that the biodome? besides the piece of fantastic cinema that shared its namesake and plan, wasn't biodome considered a fraud becuase they kept restocking the "astronauts" with food, water and stuff?
but what does an amiga do anyways??? i didnt' ask that question when those iMacs came out, i didn't ask when those "computers on a simm" were on/., but what the stink is an amiga going to do for me that an x86 won't? keep in mind how egocentric that statement was.
i mean, what are they hyping it up to be? is it just a cool box with a familliar name on it and we are all getting excited, or does it actually have a funcation? let's skip the "another alternative to intel" line, it's getting kind of dog-eared.
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SCMS only prevents SERIAL copying. there is nothing that prevetns you from making more than 1 or 2 backups, right?
i'm not trying to pick a fight here so stop me if this argument has been rehashed, but if i drop my VCR, Sony has no obligation to correct my stupidity. if you destroy your CD, you buy another one too, right?
(yes i am naive) doesn't the number of copies depend on the EULA anyways? here, they are allowing you to make as many 1st generation, digital copies as you like, AFAIK.
I remember a few weeks ago there was that streaming radio interview with Chiariglione, some linux webpage, some guy from 2600.org, and the FSF. in that interview, Chiariglione addressed several issues involving "fair use", and he said (rightly) that and SDMI will provide someone with the ability still to copy, but not serially (like the presnet SCMS).
The FSF rep wasn't able to respond to this, but from my point of view, SDMI's ability to make a limited number of digital fulfills the "free speech" needs of the FSF, which was their main concern.
what do people think about that? do i have this wrong?
firstly, i think we should all welcome this great victory for SDMI, and we should congratulate them for changing the entire world so it is completely safe from evil music pirates. bottom line, release SDMI ***NOW*** so we can crak---errr... listen to the wonderful music on DVD-audio, buy digital music online and all that good stuff. in short, SDMI release music, players and everything RIGHT NOW!!!!!
I think we should ask a rabbi... Weren't the Israelites the children of the cirumvention?
this is the problem when one looks at MP3 purely as a technology. if you want to boil it down to pure psycho-acoustics, of course selective discard is the ultimate goal.
personally, i want to see mp3 music come as close to uncompressed music as possible. i want to encode my songs without tinnyness or that annoying "swoosh". to me, an effective method of sound compression has no compression artifacts and has an output exactly the same as the input.
i think people who really listen to music should go for MP3's that SOUND good, not just look good in a white paper.
if this bug is really 250million years old, it would be very interesting to see if they have antibiotic resistance genes, or even antibiotic resistance sequences contained in plasmids.
let me explain: over the last few years we have heard this big scare over the increasing number of bacteria that can no longer be treated with normal antibiotics. We call these "superbugs" (e.g. VRE = vancomysin resistant enterococcus). This is a big concern in the medical community because of their inability to treat such illnesses.
Antibiotic resistance has grown into a frightening spectre over the last few years, and it is largely blamed on our unchecked use of antibiotics: we use them not to treat but to prevent disease on a large scale. Farmers routinely add antibiotics to animal feed as a guard against infection. We buy antibacterial soap. crops are sprayed with antibiotic solutions to prevent crop loss due to disease.
bacteria that are exposed to these antibiotics may not recieve a dose large enough to kill it. if this is so, then the bacteria can pass those resistance genes on to its progeny, which reproduce once every 20 minutes. these genetic sequences that are passed down to subsequent generations can even be transfered from bacteria to bacteria, so those novel gene sequences can be swapped, even with bacteria of different strains!
we now see this everywhre... even bacteria in the soil and other "wild" bacteria (not grown in the lab) have penicillin resistance genes. so it is pretty exciting that bacteria that old was discovered. this bacteria can help answer questions as to the origins of bacterial resistance to antibiotics, and could answer questions regarding our behavior with the proactive use of antibiotics.
if we accept that SDMI, like any other encryption system, can be broken, then why boycott the hack-SDMI at all? even IF someone breaks SDMI for the contest and encryption is tightened, people will just break it again. and again. and again. We know this. we accept this as a fact. THEY are under the delusion that the ultimate watermarking system is still attainable.
ha ha.
there is NO WAY encryption will remain inpenetrable and the watermark remain unremovable, regardless of whether it is broken now or later. the point is, there will eventually be a crack for anything they throw at us, and the crack will be done way cheaper and quicker than all the time, money and effort the SDMI coalition will throw at it.
i think that whether it is cracked now or later is immaterial, just let them release stuff or not, i dont' care. Let them do their little encryption thing so i can get my DVD audio player sooner rather than later, and wait about 1/2 an hour after it is released for some hax0r to break whatever watermark they have dreamed up that week.
i type faster than i can write. why would a person want to purposely lower their efficency?
another thing is, i dont' see people wanting to write that badly. you don't see WACOM tablets flying off shelves.
the perfect thing this might be for is a niche market. walking through your house with an inputable flatpanel is better than lugging a laptop, so maybe a flatpanel in that application would be better. but definately, i think we need keyboards!
if you went to U2's POP mart tour, then you saw something very similar.
i think we slashdotted napster (:
this has probably been iterated and reiterated, but for MD to "take off" (if it's not too late) as a viable mp3 format, they need to produce a cheap IDE drive. that way it could be used for data and music.
that's the one thing that CD's have going for them: cheap drives are available now to write discs that are easily transportable.
that's another reason things like rios and nomads and other mp3 players are not really worth the $$: you need to plug it into your computer to d/l the stuff, adding memory ain't cheap, and it's not like you can lend your tunes to anyone else unless you lend the whole player!
sony, get a cheap IDE MD writer to the peeps and bundle it with an equally cheap player. that'll get people's attention. and forget that funky memory stick idea (:
the thing that scared me the most was the perk for working at netscape: "onsite DENTAL care".
is there a chair, sink and x-ray machine in the lunchroom or what?
is that the biodome? besides the piece of fantastic cinema that shared its namesake and plan, wasn't biodome considered a fraud becuase they kept restocking the "astronauts" with food, water and stuff?
kylie was nice in biodome.
but what does an amiga do anyways??? i didnt' ask that question when those iMacs came out, i didn't ask when those "computers on a simm" were on /., but what the stink is an amiga going to do for me that an x86 won't? keep in mind how egocentric that statement was.
i mean, what are they hyping it up to be? is it just a cool box with a familliar name on it and we are all getting excited, or does it actually have a funcation? let's skip the "another alternative to intel" line, it's getting kind of dog-eared.