but I don't think hardware support was the thing that killed OS/2....'cos Linux has had the same problems
don't mistake me, i don't think lack of hardware support was the downfall of OS/2 either. it didn't help anything, but there were many factors. The whole third party driver issue was a chicken/egg situation with IBM and peripheral vendors, but at least for Linux, there is a much larger user base that can write drivers. IBM was the main reason OS/2 failed. superior operating system, but poor product support, poor marketing (remember the Nuns with the beeper? d'oh).
a popular musing was that if IBM marketed sushi, they would have called it "Dead, Raw Fish!" in the press pack.
A CD-ROM works, or it doesn't. The only time I ever had trouble installing OS/2 was with a proprietary CD-ROM, because every drive had a different interface
aha! i was very very right! when OS/2 came out, ATAPI interface drives were just coming out on the market. This was exactly the CD-ROM situation when warp! hit the market, and that was a holy terror. Do you remember remember that warp! came on 32 disks too? Those came in handy when certain motherboards had EIDE interfaces that were out of spec.
I'm not arguing about the benefits of the WPS. (i have not used/installed/touched os2 for about 5 years, give me a break here) i am also not going to tell you about the IBM(!), 3com 10base2 adaptors that refused to function under OS/2, and the xircom pcmcia cards that would not hot-swap. IBM and toshiba were the only laptop companies that i remember that came out with with , current warp drivers.
what were your experiences getting Aptiva systems to work with OS/2? now, i'm talking about ACTUAL IBM computers. how about Aptivas with an mWave telephony card? How about AST's with riser cards? there were certain models of Aptiva that did come with os/2 installed, true, but on other models i was told by IBM reps that OS/2 was incompatible.
my post is not akin to, but is actually saying that "i ran OS/2 warp and it was a pain in the ass, especially for multiple hardware configurations". anyone who built a variety hardware boxes for use in a Warp! environment knew that the Warp! installation was lacking, and improvements were overdue. Even the wildest OS/2 fantatic could not honestly dismiss this.
lastly, unless you have actually used eComStation and seen "NT3.5->2000" type improvements, i doubt you are in a better position to distill and my post to a single sentence!
The Right Whale was named by whalers because it was the 'Right' whale to harpoon (good huntin' I believe).
it's even worse than that. they were the "right" whale to hunt because they were so friendly to boats. they had large amounts of oil in their upper bodies (especially the head region) which made it easy to extract product, and the whale even floated dorsal side up when it was dead which facilitated processing!
like the captain mentioned above, i believe the reports of right whale collisions with boats are overreported compared to other types of right whale fatalities partly because of the NOAA's mandatory requirement that all vessels report these takes. Given that there are about 350 in the north atlantic and even fewer in the pacific, right whale takes, whether it be gear entanglements or collisions, do not happen everyday!
the data on fishing gear entanglements are more consistant (at least for the north pacific fishery) and they are reported by fishery biologists, not boatowners.
Incidentally, collisions with boats and gear entanglements have been documented with all types of cetaceans, not just right whales, which are given special attention becuase they fall under the "endangered" classification of the Endangered Species Act.
you are right, i think boat strikes are overreported. there is more consistant data pertaining to fishing gear entanglements, especially pelagic trawl gear than propeller takes. These statistics don't just apply to right whales, although right whales seem to be a lot friendlier to boats than most whales (save the orca... just ask any fisherman!) which makes them more vulnerable to being hit.
Going back to your original comment about whales being hit by supercavitating projectiles, i'm not sure if they would be at any higher risk than being hit by a conventional torpedo. I haven't heard of a hostile submarine encounter that involved incidental cetacean mortality, but you might have a link to that too! (:
one large concern is the amount of noise that supercavitation technology radiates is much higher than conventional means of propulsion. an underwater "sonic boom" could be very detrimental to marine life (especially cetaceans), and commercial use of supercavitation on shipping lanes could have a devestating effect on migration patterns, habitat, etc..
Support of Win32s programs (i.e. win9x) was a problem from the beginning. OS/2 could not get native win32s applications to run, and they could not licence the API from Microsoft. the closest thing they got was a win32 extension from win3.11, and that was a whole other purchase (Warp! fans will remember the Blue os/2 box that came with win 3.11).
it's too bad in five years they never solved that incompatability issue.
Half of the stuff on that list either relies on age-old standards (hence requiring only a generic driver) or has nothing to do with the specific OS (the RAM and das blinkenlights come to mind).
The target of his satire may be off, but the commentary of his now-ranked-"Funny" comment is dead on. OS/2 hardware compatability has been terrifying, even to the seasoned user. I remember when i was working on systems when warp 3.0 and its ilk (warp! connect) came out. each month, IBM reps would hand out updated booklets on compatible hardware for Warp! installations. if you wanted to save a few dollars on a generic CD-ROM, forget using it in the OS/2 machine, because while you might get generic support within the program manager, you could not get the installation routine to read from the CD drive. ditto with "generic" hardware like network cards. Ever get AWE-32 drivers for os/2? the OS/2 rep said to sell the ESS Audiodrive cards instead.
Win9x has the de facto support of hardware manufacturers. OS/2 didn't, and that was yet another reason it was so frustrating.
quote:when it was used on vehicles -- got great results in the indy 500 in the 1950's but never went into production because the engine had no crankshaft, no valves, no pistons, no transmission -- not much need for lubricants.
are you blaming the world oil consortium (lubricants) on the suppression of gas turbine technology in cars? it probably had more to do with the fact that the engine and exhaust on gas turbine cars reached temperatures of 400-600 degrees!
>The leading documented cause of death among >Right Whales is being struck by boats . . .
where did you get your info from? There have been very sparse documentation of Right Whales at all, at least in the North Pacific. Their estimated world wide population is critically low, about 100-200(!) and i haven't heard of any Right Whale takes by boats. i am a marine biologist in Alaska. If you have seen one, send photos!
i remember that thing! i think it was invented to address a growing concern that many nintendo players were prepubescent fat kids. (hey look, Johnny's running!)
the fatal flaw was discovered by these same fat kids, when faced with the possibility they would have to excercise to beat a video game. they discovered that slapping the power pad with their hands produced the same result as having to run and jump on the pad.
it is cool. it didn't take that long for me either. a TSR for your normal keyboard (like the one they are going to be selling) looks pretty dang cool (:
just what IS redhat's business model? who are they selling to? i used to work in a computer store and it was only the people that had a vague idea about computers but were trying to pose as expert users that considered commercially packaged linux.
use your fingernail to separate the cable is better than using an exacto knife. that will avoid cutting one of the wires in the cable. if you do, then you start all over. if you have to use a knife, just make a small inscision and tear down the length of the cable.
also, when you are separating, forget separating each individual strand. I'm not sure why this article said to do this. from my experience. just make an incision every 4-5 wires, and the cable will "round" (well, rectangle, really) just as well. less cuts means less chances to make a mistake!
lastly, i wouldn't even touch those ATA-66 cables. there are way more worries about possibly cutting one of the much thinner wires, and there is also mention of potential crosstalk interference with those high density cables. i have found that merely twisting the cable together so it "rounds" and then using zip straps works wonders. These ATA-66 cables are not as plentiful as the piles of 33 cables you have sitting around. don't split those!!!!
because i'm an [H]|OCP'er, check out their article on rounding too. at least it's only TWO freaking pages... fewer banner ads to distract you, i say. the [H]ard|OCP article also tells you about cable placements.
that's not what cowboy neal sounds like!!! you have completely miswritten his part!!!! for example, his timing is all off. and where is his sense of irony? HELLO... go back to film school, you dialogue HACK!
i saw "east is east" and i just laughed so hard. i was smiling in the movie, thinking "this is so good...". when i saw that movie, it really showed the slapstick that hollywood passes off as comedy. i felt a little more intelligent after seeing it. great stuff.
i don't even want to think what kind of crap hollywood would have done to "new waterford girl"... that movie was great becuase it was from a small, maritime town POV, not a big movie making machine trying to replicate small town.
over the past few months, i have been increasingly dissatisified with cookiecutter movies, right down to the point of bitterness. the ironic thing is, i love movies. i LOVE movies. i used to see 4-5 movies a week, but after this horrible horrible summer of hollywood crap, i became pretty cynical.
"independant" films really bring the signal to noise ratio up. I'm not trying to be a snob or anything, and i hope this doesn't encourage moviegoers to be "i hate this, i hate that" poseurs. But anyone who doesn't think that reading a newspaper is hard work would be enriched with a trip to an independant film
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a popular musing was that if IBM marketed sushi, they would have called it "Dead, Raw Fish!" in the press pack.
aha! i was very very right! when OS/2 came out, ATAPI interface drives were just coming out on the market. This was exactly the CD-ROM situation when warp! hit the market, and that was a holy terror. Do you remember remember that warp! came on 32 disks too? Those came in handy when certain motherboards had EIDE interfaces that were out of spec.
I'm not arguing about the benefits of the WPS. (i have not used/installed/touched os2 for about 5 years, give me a break here) i am also not going to tell you about the IBM(!), 3com 10base2 adaptors that refused to function under OS/2, and the xircom pcmcia cards that would not hot-swap. IBM and toshiba were the only laptop companies that i remember that came out with with , current warp drivers.
what were your experiences getting Aptiva systems to work with OS/2? now, i'm talking about ACTUAL IBM computers. how about Aptivas with an mWave telephony card? How about AST's with riser cards? there were certain models of Aptiva that did come with os/2 installed, true, but on other models i was told by IBM reps that OS/2 was incompatible.
my post is not akin to, but is actually saying that "i ran OS/2 warp and it was a pain in the ass, especially for multiple hardware configurations". anyone who built a variety hardware boxes for use in a Warp! environment knew that the Warp! installation was lacking, and improvements were overdue. Even the wildest OS/2 fantatic could not honestly dismiss this.
lastly, unless you have actually used eComStation and seen "NT3.5->2000" type improvements, i doubt you are in a better position to distill and my post to a single sentence!
like the captain mentioned above, i believe the reports of right whale collisions with boats are overreported compared to other types of right whale fatalities partly because of the NOAA's mandatory requirement that all vessels report these takes. Given that there are about 350 in the north atlantic and even fewer in the pacific, right whale takes, whether it be gear entanglements or collisions, do not happen everyday!
the data on fishing gear entanglements are more consistant (at least for the north pacific fishery) and they are reported by fishery biologists, not boatowners.
Incidentally, collisions with boats and gear entanglements have been documented with all types of cetaceans, not just right whales, which are given special attention becuase they fall under the "endangered" classification of the Endangered Species Act.
you are right, i think boat strikes are overreported. there is more consistant data pertaining to fishing gear entanglements, especially pelagic trawl gear than propeller takes. These statistics don't just apply to right whales, although right whales seem to be a lot friendlier to boats than most whales (save the orca... just ask any fisherman!) which makes them more vulnerable to being hit.
Going back to your original comment about whales being hit by supercavitating projectiles, i'm not sure if they would be at any higher risk than being hit by a conventional torpedo. I haven't heard of a hostile submarine encounter that involved incidental cetacean mortality, but you might have a link to that too! (:
one large concern is the amount of noise that supercavitation technology radiates is much higher than conventional means of propulsion. an underwater "sonic boom" could be very detrimental to marine life (especially cetaceans), and commercial use of supercavitation on shipping lanes could have a devestating effect on migration patterns, habitat, etc..
Support of Win32s programs (i.e. win9x) was a problem from the beginning. OS/2 could not get native win32s applications to run, and they could not licence the API from Microsoft. the closest thing they got was a win32 extension from win3.11, and that was a whole other purchase (Warp! fans will remember the Blue os/2 box that came with win 3.11).
it's too bad in five years they never solved that incompatability issue.
>The leading documented cause of death among >Right Whales is being struck by boats . . .
where did you get your info from? There have been very sparse documentation of Right Whales at all, at least in the North Pacific. Their estimated world wide population is critically low, about 100-200(!) and i haven't heard of any Right Whale takes by boats. i am a marine biologist in Alaska. If you have seen one, send photos!
i remember that thing! i think it was invented to address a growing concern that many nintendo players were prepubescent fat kids. (hey look, Johnny's running!)
the fatal flaw was discovered by these same fat kids, when faced with the possibility they would have to excercise to beat a video game. they discovered that slapping the power pad with their hands produced the same result as having to run and jump on the pad.
Practice: 1 Theory: 0
yes i know, but there are certain adjectives which are predicated by avoir, not Etre. i believe "fatigue" is one of them, just like "soif" is another.
isn't it "j'ai fatigue"?
antiBODIES work on the flu. antibiotics don't. your antibodies are part of your body's immune system. antibiotics are pills.
i don't understand... did darwin predict that inferior, yet better MARKETED species would suceed over superior ones?
blizzard has always said Q4 2001, which (i think) has not occured yet. what's up with that list entry?
i'd hate to be fired for wearing a pink slip to work too.
it is cool. it didn't take that long for me either. a TSR for your normal keyboard (like the one they are going to be selling) looks pretty dang cool (:
is it possible for the reverse half-keyboard to be made for lefties?
how about zap the monkey for 20 bananabucks? man, i've wasted hours on that dang money tree...
i guess real men don't play many games then (:
just what IS redhat's business model? who are they selling to? i used to work in a computer store and it was only the people that had a vague idea about computers but were trying to pose as expert users that considered commercially packaged linux.
who are they marketing to, exactly?
use your fingernail to separate the cable is better than using an exacto knife. that will avoid cutting one of the wires in the cable. if you do, then you start all over. if you have to use a knife, just make a small inscision and tear down the length of the cable.
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also, when you are separating, forget separating each individual strand. I'm not sure why this article said to do this. from my experience. just make an incision every 4-5 wires, and the cable will "round" (well, rectangle, really) just as well. less cuts means less chances to make a mistake!
lastly, i wouldn't even touch those ATA-66 cables. there are way more worries about possibly cutting one of the much thinner wires, and there is also mention of potential crosstalk interference with those high density cables. i have found that merely twisting the cable together so it "rounds" and then using zip straps works wonders. These ATA-66 cables are not as plentiful as the piles of 33 cables you have sitting around. don't split those!!!!
because i'm an [H]|OCP'er, check out their article on rounding too. at least it's only TWO freaking pages... fewer banner ads to distract you, i say. the [H]ard|OCP article also tells you about cable placements.
http://www.hardocp.com/articles/cooling/round_cab
you could rip it for him, but sigh... where oh WHERE to find a copy of deCSS?
that's not what cowboy neal sounds like!!! you have completely miswritten his part!!!! for example, his timing is all off. and where is his sense of irony? HELLO... go back to film school, you dialogue HACK!
i would hate to see the clutter in your room.
hear hear!
i saw "east is east" and i just laughed so hard. i was smiling in the movie, thinking "this is so good...". when i saw that movie, it really showed the slapstick that hollywood passes off as comedy. i felt a little more intelligent after seeing it. great stuff.
i don't even want to think what kind of crap hollywood would have done to "new waterford girl"... that movie was great becuase it was from a small, maritime town POV, not a big movie making machine trying to replicate small town.
over the past few months, i have been increasingly dissatisified with cookiecutter movies, right down to the point of bitterness. the ironic thing is, i love movies. i LOVE movies. i used to see 4-5 movies a week, but after this horrible horrible summer of hollywood crap, i became pretty cynical.
"independant" films really bring the signal to noise ratio up. I'm not trying to be a snob or anything, and i hope this doesn't encourage moviegoers to be "i hate this, i hate that" poseurs. But anyone who doesn't think that reading a newspaper is hard work would be enriched with a trip to an independant film