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Pictures of the New Amiga
Stace writes "Pictures exist of the new Amica MCC. to check them out. I dunno if it's excitement over something new, or the fact that I'm an old Amiga user, but I can't wait to get my hands on one of these! " Very smooth design from those shots.
Looks a little bulky, but very nice.
I'm tired of ridiculous hardware design, particularly involving screens. The iMac, for example, gives me gas. It's like a big, multi-colored buttoc. And the mouse is like a breast, so you can fondle as you hack.
You make that sound like a bad thing... The iMac's "desirablility" plus the new "free PC" thing could put the entire world's teenage male population "banging away" on the Internet.--Mark
Like the USB in front - from the other pics, it looks like the keyboard/mouse is USB, but I don't like where the mouse plugs into the keyboard (right side, in the front).
Also, is that a "Intel Outside" shirt that guy's wearing?
Ive never really read up on these (considering how the Old Amigas were way before my time), but what kind of hardware architecture do they use?
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Dave Brooks (db@amorphous.org)
http://www.amorphous.org
There is a BIG difference between an Amiga (what you claim in your
0 5"
"Pictures of the New Amiga
from the lookin-good dept.
posted by CmdrTaco on Tuesday July 27, @03:44PM (amiga)
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/07/27/15452
and what is presented in the article. Time to get that prescription changed on the reading glasses, guys...
Well, now that Solaris is starting to get some business back thanks to the Linux revolution; making IS managers pull their heads out of their asses and realize that UNIX was the solution all along.
They're getting cocky...AGAIN. Man the more things change the more they stay the same.
Don't feel so strange. Thought it's hard to find
people (like myself) who still use Amigas, it's
exceedingly easy to find people who use 1084S monitors as TVs. Even easier are former C=64 owners who use thei 1702 monitors as televisions. Hell... most of the schools I've visited use them in their video production suites. The systems are long gone, but the displays still make for sweet video monitors,
Everything he just described runs just fine on the Amiga systems that are already out there. I've got an Amiga4000 68060@50MHz/PPC604e+200MHz sitting beside a dual C366 Linux box, and when it comes to all those points described and more, the Amiga wins hands down.
Amiga and Linux could learn a lot from each other. Hopefully, that's precisely what this "next generation" of machines will demonstrate.
The pictures look like foam design prototypes, perhaps done by frog design. They look like they have been rolling around in the trunk of someones car. That makes me question if they are rejects that were thrown in a dumpster. Perhaps the date back to the Escom days? The designs aren't bad though. It appears to be a pizza box with a monitor set on top. I see nothing to indicate that it's a one piece(iMac like)box.
:)
I still like my Amiga 1000 better!
It's mandatory to wash your hands before returning to the land of Dairy Queen.
One should remember, that:
1) You have seen only one case.
2) Amiga NG will be delivered also as a standard
ATX motherboard with more expansion capabilities etc
so that you can throw it into your pc case if you think
it pleases you more.
3) Amiga - It's a religion!
The upgrade'll include a real, battery-powered clock, I bet.
While it's still not to my taste, I think that the mockup in the pictures you've pointed us to is much less ugly.
Hmm. The monitor looks suspicously like an NEC model I've seen, with the huge square front, integrated speakers (?) and then the long, barrel-shaped back.
The main case looks more like a VCR than ever.
Mind the Gap
Having seen a SPARC lunchbox or two, I really like *that* form factor. Why, oh, why can't good FAST systems be built like that anymore? Those were nice, sturdy pieces of hardware that looked cool and were quite functional.
OTOH, I want to build a nice wood PeeCee (or
maybe an Alpha, instead) case/rack.
--Corey
Not only will they not deserve liberty or safety, Mr. Franklin, they will be DENIED both!
...where's the "Transmeta Inside" sticker??
--John Riney
jwriney@awod.com
Whats Amiga's claim to fame?
Why such a big fuss? isnt it like 10 years since the last version was released? andit runs only on m68k's? thats quite old.. cant you do everything in Linux/FreeBSD/BeOS that you can on Amiga system?
Of course these are just mockups; the final design will likely be quite different.
TedC
My first "real" computer was the good old Amiga 500, way back when it was brand new. Kickstart 1.3 had just been released, and all my friends had C64s or TRS-80 CoCo 2s. When I see some sort of evidence that the nextgen Amigas aren't just vapor, it gets me real excited. Even though I sold my Amiga 3000 to buy a 486, the Amigas still have a very large piece of my heart. I'll be first in line to buy one of the new Amiga desktops!
Vivarium.
They'll probably use either rambus or PC132 (which AMD is pushing now.)
Lowmag.net
It's those curving extensions on the base that give me the creeps. Like something you'd find on a desk in a Geiger painting...
I need to get me one of these! Kind of reminds me of a NeXT cube with a monitor stuck in the middle of it. Cool... ;)
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
Except for the hardware and the software, it's just like the old amiga.
I was at World of Amiga '99 last Saturday. Amiga had a glass cabinet with this box in on display, along with the "blueprints" produced by Pentagram, the design people who were contracted to produce the mockup. And it was a mockup; the monitor had no connections or ports on the back at all. It was just a box.
Thst said, it was a very stylish box. If you're not impressed by the pictures, keep an open mind. If they build these, and I truly hope they do, you'll get a chance to see one in the "flesh". They're attractive cases. I'd be happy to have one on my desktop.
If there's any truth to the rumors that it's going to use a processor from Transmeta and the Linux Operating System as the underlying kernel, then Amiga will truly be a Force to be Reckoned With®.
- A.P.
--
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
Maybe it's just the limited light and high-compression jpegs, but they look, well... stuffed; like grey amiga-shaped teddy bears or something texturally similar. :)
"It's only a model..."
Amazing how nice styrofoam looks when you paint it, isn't it?
~ radiographite: art by john shepard
- A.P.
--
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
Show me the product! ;>
but what does an amiga do anyways??? i didnt' ask that question when those iMacs came out, i didn't ask when those "computers on a simm" were on /., but what the stink is an amiga going to do for me that an x86 won't? keep in mind how egocentric that statement was.
i mean, what are they hyping it up to be? is it just a cool box with a familliar name on it and we are all getting excited, or does it actually have a funcation? let's skip the "another alternative to intel" line, it's getting kind of dog-eared.
LOTS of RAM? But the Amiga's OS footprints have always been very minimal and the libraries very efficient so the PC type of RAM requirements have never been an issue. I could multitask 25 programs easily in 10M, while on my PC 3 or 4 brings my 64M machine to it's knees.
It may not have an operating system yet, or hardware to run it on, but IT'S GOT A COOL BOX!
Let's face it: The Amiga is vaporware. It's not going to be out this year, probably not next year either.
I am not an idiot. Please use my name to email me.
"That's right, I'm quoting myself."
-Upsilon
Wow. Yet another totally pointless set of pictures of the new "Amiga". So what if the latest ones show a pretty box? Does the box contain any hardware? Has any software been written? Why the hell does anyone care after five years of NOTHING?
BTW Amiga is in quotes since anything new claiming to be one is simply cashing in on the name to snag a few nostaligic users into buying one.
Why, yes! :-) (OK, I had to put in *some* text)
The machine looks somewhat evil, like it has appendages or something. No bright colors or voluptous shapes here. It looks downright menacing. If their next design is a tower case, it will probably have gargoyles looming over the top...
I though you maybe interested in knowing that is the simple box for home users where as the powerbox is in typical ATX for like every other PC. Not to mention Amiga is open for cloning unlike that stupid Apple company.
Yeah, what will the Amiga do that can't already be done? Graphics and multimedia? Hmm?, we've got Apple, SGI, BeOS. Business, no We have a whole gaggle of OS's in that market niche. Home, yeah right, lets see you go up against the marketing might of Apple and others. Just where does the Amiga fit in? The Server market? No, we have enough testosterone in that market.
Amiga, you were a sweet machine, but that was yesterday, give it up.
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In a nice office, withe chrome and black wood-effect furniture, black boxes are the only way to go.
However, what I would really like to see is nicely curved, very, very thin tower boxes in dark grey and purple, or maybe light grey and black with a nice dark-chrome stand (or metallic gunmetal grey stand).
It would have ports on the back to connect a range of similarly designed devices, all with the same styling and footprint that could be stacked on top of each other.
The display device would, of course, be a flat Yay!
--Nickscreen (a mere 15") with the same styling.
Mmmm. Niiice.
I'm going to make a sample design in 3ds max now.
Perhaps I should go into product design...
Sorry buddy. Atari no longer exists. It was
bought out by JTS, a hard drive manufacturing
company, and now it seems that its most important
intellectual property has been sold to Hasbro.
Hasbro might do something with the Lynx technology
in the future.
The ST technology, still quite popular in Germany,
was bought by a company named Milan Computer. They
have updated TOS (the Atari ST's operating system)
and re-engineered the ST's pretty basic system architecture
and have released a new system. I believe it's based
around the 68060 and also is PowerPC capable. It has
PCI slots and other nice things.
You can check it out at http://www.milan-computer.de
- A.P.
--
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
YUCK!!
Well, I guess amiga has learned from microsoft:
It doesnt matter whats inside as long as it "looks cool".
Whats inside is far better than anything that MS could come up with, or Apple for that matter.
hey.. the commodore 1084S monitor had built in speakers, and was one of the best selling monitors ever.. In fact I still use mine as a TV and it has better sound than most earphone speakers even today.
Amiga Inc clearly said they will release an ATX version with 6 PCI slots. Put it in a fulltower case and you're ready to go.
>looks like the keyboard/mouse is USB
,parallel, keyboard or mouse ports just 7 usb ports and maybe firewire.
The press releasse said that there are no serial
>but I don't like where the mouse plugs into the keyboard (right side, in the front).
being USB surely you can plug it into any of the usb ports?
isn't the keyboard the most logical place to plug it ?
Who really cares about the box?
:-)
Where's the software?
Where's the specs?
Where's the Operating System?
Have we all turned into Mac enthusists, ladies and gentlemen?
Since when did the box that the damn thing comes in mean anything?!?!?!!?
argh.. I had to talk a friend down from buying an iMac "because it looked cool"..
I dont care if it looks like the best thing ever made in all time, if it's only got the power of a calulator inside, who the hell would want it?
(yes, i know calculators are getting quite powerful now, no need to go there
Argh... Looks are not only not everything, they are NOTHING.
We need a new poll. How many people here would buy a computer based entirely on looks?
And how many people here would buy a computer based entirely on power/price, and then buy a box to put it in that looks the same as the good looking box?
Honestly... sheesh..
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
It looks like a mutant NEC-iMac. I think the thing is totally unexciting.
And the low-profile thing looks like a VCR-PlayStation-N64.
Uninspiring to the highest degree.
-awc
What Amiga is offering you all with this and the many other machines coming soon is the fastest damn alt platform you can buy. This machine only costs 500US and offers technology which on a PC would cost thoudands, to add to that rather than being closed off and alone like Apple, Amiga has a huge following of companies and developers ready to go with this machine making it the best Alternitive to windows that exists. And whats better Amiga has the tech and the people to back it up. They have people from SGI, Sun, Apples Advanced Tech, Borland and now a partnership with Transmeta! What do you people want? You want speed, you want power, you dont want MS, and most dont want apple. You want something based around free APIs and standards which thee new AMiga/OS is, you want something with open source? The new AMigas workbench is! We're talking the best of both worlds here, Coreperate technology and power + the flecibility of open source, not to mention the community which is something uniquie to Amiga. if you want to have a say, want to stand out from the rest you'll be buying this, supporting this and helping them overcome the problems and tech loss MS has brought to us.
You mean it looks like the CDTV? The CD32 looked sort of similar more to the playstation.
If anyone is looking for specifications and updates on the next-gen Amigas, you can visit my site at:
http://amigang.cjb.net
Currently, there will be two initial machines. The one in the pictures is the A500 style one; there will also be a A2000 desktop using an ATX m/b with all the new Amiga stuff on it.
If anyone is looking for specifications and updates on the next-gen Amigas, you can visit my site at: http://amigang.cjb.net Currently, there will be two initial machines. The one in the pictures is the A500 style one; there will also be a A2000 desktop using an ATX m/b with all the new Amiga stuff on it.
Good observation. Does anyone know what's actually supposed to be under the hood of this thing? Anything totally integrated like that can't help but suck in that it puts the kibosh on any plans for upgrading or customizing. Everyone's drooling over a case with no thought as to what's in it, ala iMac. The look of this thing screams "proprietary" and "closed architecture" through and through. Manufacturers have found out they can cut the actual contents of a computer case in half, add $10 of pretty plastic and sell the whole thing for twice as much as if they'd never crippled the hardware in the first place. I don't know if it's fantastic that someone was smart enough to realize this or really really sad that people fall for it.
The monitor, a rip off of the 20th century Mac, the box, a rip off of the Apple Media Player.
Old and discarded designs, rewarmed for the Amiga. Yawn!
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Smooth 2D scrolling is possible with a VGA; see 'Zen of Graphics Programming' by Michael Abrash for details. You're right, though; the original Amiga was quite impressive in 1985.
TedC
Me like black boxes *drool*
Russian Roulette? while
Uh. No.
Whats up with you mac fanatics? You think EVERYTHING is somehow a ripoff of mac.
Whenever a product with a tranclucent element comes out "Oh thats a rip off of the iMac" give me a break.
Apple sucks, there hardware is good, but the rest blows. They would be a microsoft if they had better marketting.
Look how your beloved apple got rid of the apple clone licenses, putting all those employees out of business. You know they might of had families and kids but NOOO apple had to do it.
Apple is total BS, I don't see why anybody would like them at all. There Blue G3s are speedy boxes, but they're just assholes.
I guess anything with an eletronic circut is a ripoff of some mac product, cuz they invented the world right?
It doesn't seem to be helping your lack of imagination much.
I was not impressed by those preliminary photos at all. The design looks terrible. However, I'll wait until I see the real deal and most of all what kind of capabilities it has. I'm looking forward to the launch.
Does anybody know when that will be?
--ralphieboy
"Am thinkink is not bad leetle machine. Is kind of cute, all in one piece, da Mikhail?"
"Sure. But what happens if the screen fries?"
"...You are then havink very big paperweight with no lights."
I hope these photos aren't indicative of the level of thoroughnes
that goes into the new Amiga if it ever comes.
That's the point - these photos were fuzzy, dark and didn't
reveal much. After waiting 5 years, some people are tiring of
the New Amiga's press releases, reorgzniations, and unrealized
plans.
The least they can do is to release decent renderings of the
equipment. (Drawings would actually be better than photos)
and specs. Yes, including the alleged Transmeta chip. Of course
final specs have been drawn up, and designs can change,
but Amiga can do better than this. Anyone can.
The lack of professionalism in these photos is appalling.
Not the fact that they are models.
This reflects more on the poor editorial quality at Slashdot than
on Amiga, though. Slashdot now has the money and connections
to do some real investigative journalism to confirm or deny
the Transmeta rumors, and much more.
Taco and Hemos don't do their research. Perhaps becfause that
incurs liability. Much easier and safer just to post links to
secondhand stories from others.
Yes, I will take some cheese with the wine, thank you.
Pictures are great, but how about hardware specs? What good is the box if it's just an Amiga 4000 repackaged?
The lack of professionalism in these photos is appalling.
Duh. Did you see these pics at amiga.com? No, they're snapshots made by visitors to the World of Amiga exhibition, where the mock-up was shown.
Slashdot now has the money and connections
to do some real investigative journalism to confirm or deny
the Transmeta rumors, and much more.
Probably a bit difficult if they don't sign an NDA with AInc/Transmeta, since those are the only ones who know for sure...
Why is everybody so focused on the shape of the box, not what's inside (bunch of damned iMac users at heart!)?! I don't care if they make it look like a big pile of doggy doodoo, as long as it is a truly amazing box (well, maybe not that bad!).
If the CPU is designed for reconfigurable computing (which looks likely), this could be as ahead of its time as the original Amiga was. Maybe even more so. Truly amazing. By pure coincidence, quite a while back I sent the Amiga developers a bunch of info about the reconfigurable computing at starbridgesystems.com (I live right next to them), where they built the worlds fastest hypercomputer for practically pocket change (less than $100K in parts, though they would never admit it was that cheap!). Anyway, I was praying that the Amiga guys would either license their technology or do something similar. I would have done animal sacrifices if I thought it would do anything to further my plea. Lo and behold, it looks like they are actually doing it! Reconfigurable computing is truly amazing stuff, orders of magnitude beyond what we use right now (but not necessarily more expensive!). If the Amiga does it, and does it right, we will be truly blown away (regardless of what the box looks like!).
Mouse like a breast? Fondling? Damn, I wish my computing experience was so sensual.. it sure would make work more interesting. At the very least, good industrial design from the iMac and this Amiga prototype make for more compelling computers.. more so than for plain boxes that only look good next to your grandmother's beige undergarment collection.
I'm a former Amiga fan and now I'm a Mac fanatic (got a 7600/G3 with snowboarding stickers all over it, a curvaceous black PowerBook G3, and a Strawberry iMac). I think it would be awesome if the Amiga came through as a smoky gray or navy.. something to signify power, speed, or performance -- as most car makers do. Hopefully the new 550 MHz G3 minitowers (to be announced on Thursday) will sport some dark, sporty colors.
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Those who laugh at you for you having a Mac.. are the people who constantly call you to fix their PC.
You are.
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Infuriate left and right
Like in the subject line - this isn't significant. We've seen cool Amiga cases before over the years. and they've contained nothing but vapor.
Until there's actually something there *in* the box, it's not news and it certainly doesn't matter.
-- Rick
Looks kind of like the old CD32's from Commodore...
Who knows though right? Maybe we'll actually see a running one in the next five years.... probably about the same time Atari tries to resurrect the ST....
Seriously though, even with Transmeta supposedly on board, I can't say I'm really excited about this. Too many companies and too many people have tried to hype the Amiga back into reality and its all getting a bit tiresome. Ooh... another cool looking case design... still say the BeBox looked nicer....
Just my one and a half cents worth....
I guess they're not so bright after all. When
will companies learn the following equation :
Speakers + Monitor = Bad
That pretty much goes for any 2 components which
are 'naturally' seperate, being put together. I
think we all know the lovely Packard Bell all-in-
one videocard/modem/sound card/ide controller
monstrosity... yikes.
...dave
Think different? I'd be happy if most people would just think...
I'm tired of ridiculous hardware design, particularly involving screens. The iMac, for example, gives me gas. It's like a big, multi-colored buttoc. And the mouse is like a breast, so you can fondle as you hack. A decent software interface is where it's at. This new Amiga looks like something you'd find in the batcave.
While I was once a big Amiga fan (like in 87 or so), I'm turned right off by overly curvacious plastic. Give me one of those new, 18" flatscreens and a box hidden somewhere under the desk, and cool software.
The amiga is rather perty, but it IS styrofoam. That just can't get my mojo going. However if they gave me some specs on it i just may start to get excited.
P.S.:To the folks at amiga...
Think LOTS of ram!!!
I think this is one of the most attractive computer cases I have ever seen. It has none of the gaudiness of an iMac and all the mod-style. From these pictures, it looks sturdy and well designed, those black boxes from Acer, etc, eminate cheapness. Its two tone dark grey reminds me of a high-end brushed aluminum appliance or stereo, ever seen high end audio gear from a company known as krell? Very cool. Hopefully they won't screw up the keyboard/mouse as much as Apple did on their new machines, thats a major dissapointment to me, esp. on the G3, tho a petite female friend of mine loves the keyboard/mouse on her iMac. Unfortunately for us computer geeks, the old Amiga is dead, this is clearly a consumer product, aimed at the same people who buy iMacs and cheap PCs, but it still looks great, I would love to have one for web surfing and light takes, and leave my ugly, mostrous and beige box for Linux.
Spyky
That's a fanstastic idea! Felt covered foam computer cases! You can knock 'em over, kick them, poke at them, and stick velcro to them!
The RF emmissions must be huge, but man, what a great idea!
Bet they soak up coffee (beer, tequilla, etc) pretty well though. Oops. That'd suck.
I'm going to go buy some carpet padding and felt and make my computer cases look just like those!
exactly...
Steve we may have to reprogram this one...he's got a brain
Ok folks. Lets get really really excited over a box. Give me an SGI switched bus or interleaved 4 slot PC100 ram (come on we know all know we want to install our SDRAM chips in quads). I am a little interested in what tr/Amiga/Goatway/ is doing but hell they have no product, no os, and except for some eastern block skript kittys no users, crakz on brotherz. I still have an A500 with 3 megs and 80 meg drive. That thing kick(ed) ass (Learned CPP on it with the SAS compiler) Give me commodity hardware or give me, err, uhhh, commodity hardware because that is the only thing I will use.
Cool.. I'm glad I'm not the only one that uses theirs as a TV....
> Speakers + Monitor = Bad
More to the point this is supposed to be a multimedia convergence blah blah. I`m not going to replace my televsion and surround sound setup with this poxy 14inch display and crappy built in speakers!
Don't get me wrong I`ve been an Amiga user for ten years and IF this new technology is as good as they say then i'll buy one but I think I'd go for the atx option rether than this one.
Duh, people..heard of audio out?
Back in the day, when PC sound was an 'extra'
Atari, Commodore & later Amigas all had sound
built in and had monitors with speakers - multimedia ahead of its time..
..the damn cheapass PC culture got used to the idea of having to get seperate speakers...
Unless youre an audiophile or hardcore gamerfreak, you dont give a rats ass about picking speakers..its an annoyance, and after you have 'em they're extra clutter..always scooting aruond, taking up deskspace..bah!
I, too, still have a collection of A1084S monitors. One's on my Amiga, the other is doing duty as an extra TV. The things kick ass, thankyouverymuch..
You know guys, amiga released some design images of the new amiga before as well. That was over a year ago. It looked more like your standard (well, a rather curvy) tower case, with polk speakers and a 17" monitor. A year later, we've got a couple mockups of a set top type box to show for it. Now, a year ago I was rather enthusiastic about the new amiga. It *did* really sound like they were getting thier act together and were going to come out with something rather neat. Even now, it *may* work. The thing is, that this has been promised for quite a while, and while we get nice box designs, a couple faked OS "designer" images, and some vague specs, there has virtually been no hard information you can trust. It took me about a year to loose any faith I had in Amiga inc. Others have lasted a lot longer, and I don't honestly know how you do it. I'd *like* to believe this thing will become a great system, but I just can't these days. I hope they prove me wrong.
Otherwise, it's not a bad looking little box, reminds me a bit of the CD32, which someone else mentioned. I wonder what the upgradibility will be for one of these? Even the 3000s had some problems with the longer cards.
These are real nice designs. I would love to own one. Amiga is still cool. I can hardly wait to own one. I wish they would have a contest so that fans could have a chance to win a new Amiga. But what kind of contest? Should it be based on skill or luck or both? I hope so.
I know someone who's an Amiga nut and he is working as a volunteer for the amiga.org group, they just had some marathon inet get togethers while the shows in London and California were going on.
He says the processor is the Transmeta and that they are further along than people think. I think he said developers will get boxes in November and the public should be able to buy them around December/January.
I asked about price. He said some of them were going to sell in the $300-$400 range. I don't think these prices include monitors. He says Amiga plans for people to be hooking them up to high definition TVs. Is the quality good enough on HDTVs? I know it isn't for regular ones.
I agree. Macs have great hardware, but the software selection sucks. I think it is a little more stable than M$, but who would actually run System# on it anyway? Put Linux on it, and compile or port all the software yourself. BTW, I like those iBooks, just the hardware. The case looks too poofy.
Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.
HDTV's are actually better than most monitors (about 1980x1200 if memory serves me right)so the quality should be up there with the best of them.
hmm I'm just waiting for the local HDTV network stations to apear in WA......
seya
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I always thought that Starbridge was a hoax or some guy who was full of himself. Has anyone seen their webpage? He tries to make himself sound like a genius. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE for them to be able to deliver according to all their hype, but I won't be a believer until I see it work as advertised.
Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.
If I have a big enough place to put them under the desk I like towers, lots of space to fiddle around in when you are adding or swapping hardware.
If I don't have space for a tower I like a monitor connected to the video out of a laptop that is sitting on a shelf over or next to the monitor. I also like a full sized ergonomic keyboard plugged into the laptop.
Those netwinder boxes approch the "laptop" footprint although the laptop can also travel.
I think that for non-tower desktop machine a netwinder type box sitting next to a 15 - 19 inch lcd screen is much more stylish then anything else.
When will LCD screens become affordable!
Every wrong attempt discarded is a step forward - T. Edison
>(Drawings would actually be better than photos)
They did release drawing a few months ago to the press, they are also on Amigas web site and I think slashdot covered one of the designs about a month ago.
also www.amiga.org isn`t anything to do with A inc it is a user group website.
>these photos were fuzzy, dark and didn't reveal much.
They were taken by a visitor to one of the amiga shows at the weekend and posted to the web by him.
>Taco and Hemos don't do their research.
Unlike you then ?
Of course, they also look like a spruced up and snazzied Apple Mac LC II or Performa with 15" monitor on top of it...
Large print giveth, and the small print taketh away
im also an old amiga buff, still have them, 1000 and a 3000, but is that the best design they can come up with? Its terrible, by the pics it looks like a prototype, could almost pass as a set of DJ speaker/equiptment boxes. Looks like they havent allowed room for any third party components either, IE wheres my yammy CDRW gonna fit? or am i gonna be restricted to "amiga" components. *sigh*.
hopefully it will make us all think about the box we have !
I know the iMac made people see things !
but its good to know other companys are also thinking about it !
enough of the black boxs !(although they look cool)
WE WANT GREEN and not iMac green but nice shades
we cant you simply say what colour you want your box like you do with a car ?
(I know they cost more but how come every other industry does it but we get an off white colour !!!)
a poor student @ bournemouth uni in the UK (a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
I'm sure those who thought the case was interesting were aware that it was a model. It gets rather redundant to hear 30 of you saying "But its Styrofoam!(tm)".
:P. Either the machine will rock, or suck. I'd rather wait and see for something solid before complaining about it, unlike most of you self-proclaimed couchside geniuses.
It was a demonstration of how it will look. They didn't say "This is what we're going to use as a case" (Although that would be cool, remember the guy using styrofoam and mineral oil to overclock?)
Frankly, I've pretty much ignored anything about the Amiga since the start of their downward spiral. But now it seems they are working, and trying to do more than just show off vaporware. At least their news is coming more and more often now.
Is it that necessary to whine? I'd complain less if I was forced to use NT the rest of my life
Why? They're beautiful machines! Even if it wasn't being used, you should have kept it as an example of engineering excellence!
Hi,
I only have one remark:
Get rid off the CRT and use an LCD (15" or up).
Bye.
You do know whos selling the system don't you? Amiga is owned by one of the best PC Clone manufacturers, Gateway. I'm not sure about the Amiga name, being too young, but lets hope that Gateways standards are there!
Amiga Inc have put up some official pictures on their web site.
OK, who has actually seen the specs on this thing. If you all took your heads out of your arses you would know that there is an ATX version under development which will go in any case you like, and all the I/O subsytems are USB based, so they are no exactly vaporware or closed architecture. Also the standard graphics subsystems are pretty hot and would seem to be more than capable than the PC equivalent! This machine is running linux on what would seem to be a new revolutionary processor, if that's not worth a look I don't know what is.
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The new Amiga is really ugly, black without any fun factor
I was a big fan of the A500 then I switched to the Mac.
Amiga won't sell well if it's the design of their new machine...
No softwares, no games, bad looking hardware.
At least, Apple's got softwares, some games and great looking hardware
I just hope the inside of the new Amiga is a killer...
Too bad, they design a machine like in the 80's.
Hey Amiga designers, we are in the 90's
[formerly Gateway 2000] purchasing the rights to install Amiga on their systems? I still do.
I don't mean to imply that I have any devotion to Gateway (even though they WERE my first Phone tech support job, AND my first desktop), but these pix are definitely an interesting development for Gateway, no?
OK, OK, truth be told, I HAVE been looking for an excuse to add an Amiga to my home LAN; and if Gateway is willing to purchase on of these mama's ...
"He who questions training trains himself at asking questions." - The Sphinx, Mystery Men (1999)
Of NON-foam mockups.
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http://www.funtime-world.de/bericht/woa240799.h
Well, anyway at least the image quality is better.
Note front-mounted USB ports, and the slight concave indentation above them - almost looks like the whole light-grey part can slide out of the case. Also, the improved shape of the monitor over the foam models. Still bulky, though. Case has DVD/CD drive on top and ???? on the bottom. Wonder what that could be.. 256k memory expansion slot?
These pics are from the World of Amiga 99 show in London, the one where the Transmeta logo was shown in the "Amiga Partners" video or whatever it was called.
-The Count
Looks like all of those ugly "interactive multimedia" CD boxes from several years ago (though I hope it has a keyboard and not just an overgrown remote control).
Or maybe it looks like some kind of alien death machine -- but not in a good way.
Mind the Gap
It looks a lot like the old unified Compaq Presarios (the ones with CPU, monitor, and speakers in the same box). The difference here is that the monitor+speakers are detached, and the finish has a different colour and a grainy, sandy appearance (guessing by the pictures). When you put the monitor on top of the CPU, it looks astonishingly like those bloody Compaqs.
I just want a SPARC-like pizza box. Nothing else.
In Soviet Russia, Jesus asks: "What Would You Do?"
we cant you simply say what colour you want your box like you do with a car ?
Your prayers have been answered.