bn.com: They promised and I recieved the order in about a week (from about Wed. the 15th), no muss no fuss
x10.com: See bn.com
netmarket.com: The order was promised to arrive in about two weeks from the 15th, which would have been after Xmas, but arrived early (on Xmas eve). Wonder if they were pushing out the orders quick-like to keep up the customer service? Good idea in my book.
egghead.com: Everything arrived practically before I ordered it. Free shipping. They're generally within a couple of bucks of the lowest price at shopper.com's comparisson service too. They've got my business.
webcertificate.com: Ordered web certificates last year for various people, their service is next to impossible to use if the recipient does not have a credit card (what their service does is create a new credit card number that debits your certificate... They need a card to charge whatever excess you are spending to). novel, but not all that practical.
FYI, I just checked the www.athabascau.ca web site, and it seems for US citizens it will be $604CDN ($483US at current exchange rate of $.80CDN=$1US... the exchange rate was more like $.65CDN=$1US earlier this year). Still might be worth it to do the learning through a distance-oriented establishment.
Or maybe another new idea like a platform independant scripting language of some sort, that could run in the browser? We could make it absolutely nothing like Java except for calling a few objects the same things... and call it JavaScript. We'd have to since it just sounds so cool, and we love using an uppercase letter in the middle of a word. *cough, cough*
You forgot the eye-tanium versus e-tanium versus ih-tanium pronunciation variances. I prefer the last one merely for the ease at which one would be able to add "sh" to the beginning.
I'm not the biggest fan of intel, but give credit where credit is due... They had "Pentium" which has the element-esque sound to it long before the new VW. And in actually, the name itanium.com was registered a year ago, well before the VW marketing campaign. Though "Itanium" has to be one of the lamest and trendy names for a product I have ever been exposed to, it *does* somewhat match the feel of their existing product in the sense of it being element-esque.
You make it sound as if its impossible to write XML-enabled command line or ascii-based "gui" programs. What would be the difference in your ability to administer if you a.) used vi to edit the files or b.) used a terminal-based xml config program that allows you to edit to the same level of granularity? I'll take the liberty of giving you the correct answer: You actually would have an *advantage* with the XML-based system, because using a standard configuration editor and parser means a stray keystroke during editing would be *less* likely to make your system even worse after making your changes. Yes, you can make the argument that "well written" plain text config parsers should behave the same, but leveraging a standard format with community supported tools makes sure every program that supports that method of configuration is "well written", and with less effort on the developer's part.
Isn't the Amiga name a liability? Shouldn't they just use the patents they want and come up with a name that isn't so synonymous with (a)market failure and (b) a community of babbling loons? Amigas were swell 12-15 years ago.
This overlooks their target market, home-based consumers. Yes, to the industry, Amiga is synonymous with Commodore, which is in turn synonymous with failure. As far as their target demographic goes, Amiga is a fresh name. And for the people that did have experiences with Amiga it is reminiscient of that fast, inexpensive, friendly computer they used before being forced into the Windows world.
I think you should check your facts first, Amiga has outright said they're using Linux. The Transmeta connection is the rumor part of this (but then *anything* regarding Transmeta is rumor at this point:)
I agree that Amiga has released way more information than a company in their position should. But they have a devoted user community and they feel they should not alienate... unfortunately said user community is for the most part ignorant of why what Amiga is doing is going to be revolutionary. From what I've seen (and I was at AmiWest just to check out and report on the Transmeta rumor), most of the folks there were what you would expect to see of people clinging to a platform that is, for the greater part, dead.
Amiga, Inc. has managed to describe a rather complete view of their new platform. Its technologies that nobody else is pulling together in quite the same way, along with a recognizable brand name and image. I think they will be the first to market with anything on the scale they're talking about, but I think giving away as much as they've had has given a jumpstart to any "me too's" that may dilute their market, and I think that may have been unwise.
Not that I don't have fun with the rumors mind you...:)
These are all VERY good points. I think that they will probably release a developer machine in the next couple of months in small quantities. It may not use the TM-CPU at that point, since one of the points of Amiga Objects technology is to be very abstracted from hardware, and even the OS to a certain extent. But I do think they'll release something sooner vice later, or they will have dropped the ball capitalizing on all of the hype they've managed to generate up to this point.
It's been fixed, I set the domain up with ns.metamiga.com as primary with the internic, but then proceeded to use ns1.metamiga.com in my dns setup. Oops. I am curious why it didn't roll over to my secondary or tertiary servers, though. There must have been another misconfiguration on your end.
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You can find a frame-grab of the video at Amiga Central
>AMIGA OS: >I personally don't beleive the Amiga OS (regardless of the kernel used), or QNX (for that matter) can match either method for market entry.
Yes, the real question is the value-add on top of a typical Linux distro... they are pushing Amiga Objects as that value-add. But it seems to me that Amiga Objects are just a repackage of Sun's Jini. I think the key to the new Amiga is the object technology in combination with a processor that can handle crunching Java the fastest. They seem to be playing the "package deal" slant on a bunch of hot new technologies (Linux, Java, and the mystery Transmeta inclusive). We shall see!
>TRANSMETA HW: >Learn from AMD, preferably Borland. You need much greater performance, and a much cheaper chip to quickly enter this entrenched market.
The rumors seem to indicate they are working on a big increase in speed in combination with a big decrease in cost. If the rumors are true, it fits the bill.
>But, Good God, don't shoot for a proprietary mobo design, whacky cases or custom ram configurations. The nerd market will ignore you. If you can't make something that fits in my box at a price/performance model on a par with AMD, you might as well all go look for new jobs now.
They are releasing an ATX mobo that uses standard PC busses for connecting to paripherals / memory... (in addition to the iMac style Amiga of course:)
The Finn is a real guy too. I went to school with him. The story checks out.:)
Sorry about the DNS issues and the non-current information in my WHOIS listing. I've got a bit to learn on setting up DNS, and the WHOIS thing was just a slip-up. If you need to contact me, you can reach me at anthony@kilna.com though, and I'll be happy to answer any questions.
I tried to get both the site and the article up in a hurry, and it shows. But the content is valid and can be verified with any AmiWest or World of Amiga attendee.
I hope to have a better-hashed-out version of both METAMIGA.COM and the article very soon.
I agree! I'd rather hear a synopsis of the story (since mirroring coprighted information has legal implications for/.) rather than have to log onto yet another news service. I set slashdot as my home page so I could get all of my geek news in one place!
Slashdot Mirror
bn.com: They promised and I recieved the order in about a week (from about Wed. the 15th), no muss no fuss
x10.com: See bn.com
netmarket.com: The order was promised to arrive in about two weeks from the 15th, which would have been after Xmas, but arrived early (on Xmas eve). Wonder if they were pushing out the orders quick-like to keep up the customer service? Good idea in my book.
egghead.com: Everything arrived practically before I ordered it. Free shipping. They're generally within a couple of bucks of the lowest price at shopper.com's comparisson service too. They've got my business.
webcertificate.com: Ordered web certificates last year for various people, their service is next to impossible to use if the recipient does not have a credit card (what their service does is create a new credit card number that debits your certificate... They need a card to charge whatever excess you are spending to). novel, but not all that practical.
FYI, I just checked the www.athabascau.ca web site, and it seems for US citizens it will be $604CDN ($483US at current exchange rate of $.80CDN=$1US... the exchange rate was more like $.65CDN=$1US earlier this year). Still might be worth it to do the learning through a distance-oriented establishment.
I found this information at http://www.athabascau.ca/html/calendar/fees/feesum 2.htm#foreign
: I don't know any of the technical details, as I'm
: less of a coder than anything else, but isn't X
: generally a "client-server" display system?
It was XML, not X, the individual was referring to. They are different things entirely.
XML Information
X Windows Information
Or maybe another new idea like a platform independant scripting language of some sort, that could run in the browser? We could make it absolutely nothing like Java except for calling a few objects the same things... and call it JavaScript. We'd have to since it just sounds so cool, and we love using an uppercase letter in the middle of a word. *cough, cough*
And should gravity fail, the switch would remain in position so you could make your way about the ceiling.
You forgot the eye-tanium versus e-tanium versus ih-tanium pronunciation variances. I prefer the last one merely for the ease at which one would be able to add "sh" to the beginning.
We whought we had it bad with "GIF" and "Linux".
Trivia alert!
What does TWAIN (the image input standard they use for most scanner drivers) stand for...?
I'm not the biggest fan of intel, but give credit where credit is due... They had "Pentium" which has the element-esque sound to it long before the new VW. And in actually, the name itanium.com was registered a year ago, well before the VW marketing campaign. Though "Itanium" has to be one of the lamest and trendy names for a product I have ever been exposed to, it *does* somewhat match the feel of their existing product in the sense of it being element-esque.
You make it sound as if its impossible to write XML-enabled command line or ascii-based "gui" programs. What would be the difference in your ability to administer if you a.) used vi to edit the files or b.) used a terminal-based xml config program that allows you to edit to the same level of granularity? I'll take the liberty of giving you the correct answer: You actually would have an *advantage* with the XML-based system, because using a standard configuration editor and parser means a stray keystroke during editing would be *less* likely to make your system even worse after making your changes. Yes, you can make the argument that "well written" plain text config parsers should behave the same, but leveraging a standard format with community supported tools makes sure every program that supports that method of configuration is "well written", and with less effort on the developer's part.
Isn't the Amiga name a liability? Shouldn't they just use the patents they want and come up with a name that isn't so synonymous with (a)market failure and (b) a community of babbling loons? Amigas were swell 12-15 years ago.
This overlooks their target market, home-based consumers. Yes, to the industry, Amiga is synonymous with Commodore, which is in turn synonymous with failure. As far as their target demographic goes, Amiga is a fresh name. And for the people that did have experiences with Amiga it is reminiscient of that fast, inexpensive, friendly computer they used before being forced into the Windows world.
I think you should check your facts first, Amiga has outright said they're using Linux. The Transmeta connection is the rumor part of this (but then *anything* regarding Transmeta is rumor at this point :)
They are planning on relelasing an ATX format board as one of their release platforms. A CHRP board is not out of the question.
I agree that Amiga has released way more information than a company in their position should. But they have a devoted user community and they feel they should not alienate... unfortunately said user community is for the most part ignorant of why what Amiga is doing is going to be revolutionary. From what I've seen (and I was at AmiWest just to check out and report on the Transmeta rumor), most of the folks there were what you would expect to see of people clinging to a platform that is, for the greater part, dead.
Amiga, Inc. has managed to describe a rather complete view of their new platform. Its technologies that nobody else is pulling together in quite the same way, along with a recognizable brand name and image. I think they will be the first to market with anything on the scale they're talking about, but I think giving away as much as they've had has given a jumpstart to any "me too's" that may dilute their market, and I think that may have been unwise.
Not that I don't have fun with the rumors mind you... :)
These are all VERY good points. I think that they will probably release a developer machine in the next couple of months in small quantities. It may not use the TM-CPU at that point, since one of the points of Amiga Objects technology is to be very abstracted from hardware, and even the OS to a certain extent. But I do think they'll release something sooner vice later, or they will have dropped the ball capitalizing on all of the hype they've managed to generate up to this point.
...doing the fabs for transmeta?
You neglect the other two marketroid prefixes, i and v!
eGarbage! vCrap! iGibberish!
"My bad" :)
It's been fixed, I set the domain up with ns.metamiga.com as primary with the internic, but then proceeded to use ns1.metamiga.com in my dns setup. Oops. I am curious why it didn't roll over to my secondary or tertiary servers, though. There must have been another misconfiguration on your end.
You can find a frame-grab of the video at Amiga Central
>AMIGA OS:
:)
>I personally don't beleive the Amiga OS (regardless of the kernel used), or QNX (for that matter) can match either method for market entry.
Yes, the real question is the value-add on top of a typical Linux distro... they are pushing Amiga Objects as that value-add. But it seems to me that Amiga Objects are just a repackage of Sun's Jini. I think the key to the new Amiga is the object technology in combination with a processor that can handle crunching Java the fastest. They seem to be playing the "package deal" slant on a bunch of hot new technologies (Linux, Java, and the mystery Transmeta inclusive). We shall see!
>TRANSMETA HW:
>Learn from AMD, preferably Borland. You need much greater performance, and a much cheaper chip to quickly enter this entrenched market.
The rumors seem to indicate they are working on a big increase in speed in combination with a big decrease in cost. If the rumors are true, it fits the bill.
>But, Good God, don't shoot for a proprietary mobo design, whacky cases or custom ram configurations. The nerd market will ignore you. If you can't make something that fits in my box at a price/performance model on a par with AMD, you might as well all go look for new jobs now.
They are releasing an ATX mobo that uses standard PC busses for connecting to paripherals / memory... (in addition to the iMac style Amiga of course
The Finn is a real guy too. I went to school with him. The story checks out. :)
Sorry about the DNS issues and the non-current information in my WHOIS listing. I've got a bit to learn on setting up DNS, and the WHOIS thing was just a slip-up. If you need to contact me, you can reach me at anthony@kilna.com though, and I'll be happy to answer any questions.
I tried to get both the site and the article up in a hurry, and it shows. But the content is valid and can be verified with any AmiWest or World of Amiga attendee.
I hope to have a better-hashed-out version of both METAMIGA.COM and the article very soon.
Thanks
I agree! I'd rather hear a synopsis of the story (since mirroring coprighted information has legal implications for /.) rather than have to log onto yet another news service. I set slashdot as my home page so I could get all of my geek news in one place!