Just as there are many bad guys in the world, there are many good ones. In the case of closed source, anyone cannot fix the problem directly. With opensource, even if it's just a bug, I can fix it myself if I am so inclined.
So the many eyes thing still holds. One could further argue, that opensource stuffs can achieve higher quality faster, as both the stupid errors get flushed out really fast.
The whole fame thing you are telling me only works amongst geeks.
Geeks usually have say in the hiring of other geeks. If you can't program worth a shit, and someone asks my expert opinion on how well you may fit in technically, you are sunk.
It doesn't matter whether you love what you are doing and consider this the hobby you want to spend 110% of your time on: It's exploitation by companies who are not at all interested in creating stuff. They want to use your stuff for free. That's why they trick you into doing it.
I guess eclipse is a big lie too.. since ONLY open source developers use it, or perl, or apache, since it's ONLY opensource peo ple. Get real. If you do somethign important enough, you can get paid for maintenance and customization. Isn't that how dell
anda few car companies are doing things now? The world isn't about delivering A product, but delivering one YOUR way. It's a world driven by IS and IT now, not about producing widgets.
If you want to put your skills to work and you need to support a family, your work and work results can't be free.
Once, I wrote 2d ticker, that supports adding and deleting information on the fly. Nothing many MANY other geeks couldn't do, but I did it none-the-less. This was in a lull at work, and I wanted to do something interesting. So I wrote it, had it revie wed and people made suggestions. Did I MAKE anything from it? Yeah, experience. When someone asks me, "Did you know swing an d the java2d api?" I can now say, "Yeah, I've done some stuff. Nothing commercial, but here's an example of my work. Tell me
what you think of it.
Life isn't about yes's and no's. There's reasons to do OSS... like fulfilling needs other than money. Learning, personal need, experience and just filling in that time when you think doing an ERP project at the office is lame and you wanna get your synapses going.
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An exe is a program that gets executed by your OS. A doc file is now a program that gets executed by Word. Only diff between a clean program and a doc, is a program is mostly used to contain functionality, whereas a doc has info.
But believe me, I've seen docs compiled as exe's to provide their own reader back in the day.
Unfortunately, the same can go for stop signs and parking. People don't stop at stop signs but crawl through them and as for parking, vans and trucks park on corners making it hard to see around, due to lack of parking.
Everything isn't black or white like that. He's asking advice for making the transition, so you have to assume either he can't quit or he wont' quit. Why he can't, may be family finances or contract. He may not want to due to loyalty to the company, and this is just a snag in the relationship.
Do they also have the money and the permission to compensate these people for the dollars they are losing?
If it's ok to displace an entire company w/o compensation, then why do we bother assist people that are in bad situations i.e. over an area of land deemed too dangerous to live in?
Seriously, why is everyone so up in arms about spam, when our brains are saturated in advertising everywhere we look?
Because with TV and arguably, the web, I can turn it off. I know for a fact, tv and the web have ads. It's been a way of life since '95 at least. Remember linkexchange anyone? Email is something *I* own. It is a priv that you get to use my address and actually find me, just like a phone or my front door (travelling salesman).
If I turn on the tube or boot up a browser, it is expected that I'll be hit by at least 1 ad, and it is my choice to subject myself to it. Email is a tool of importance to find me. Abuse it, and I'll do my damnedest to see that you are taken care of via your uplink and anti-spam advocates.
Justify it any way you want, the means do NOT justify the end.
I don't want to use Java. First of all, I've never used it to develop software. Second of all, every user interface I've ever seen done with Java stinks. Maybe I've been seeing bad examples, but the windows, buttons, and other contols of the Java apps I've seen have an old fashion look and feel to me and I don't care for it. My personal opinion, but for me, that counts for something.
Uh.. your ignorance of swing is showing. On my mac, it uses apple-like widgets. On windows, it looks like windows. If you want to, develop your own widget faces and make your own swing style stuff. As for existing apps looking like ass, programs written in many other languages can easily look like ass if the developer doesn't put time into it. But since you havne't programmed in java and never seen a good java app your opinion on java's stance of "prettiness" is there, eh?
.NET is a really nice development environment. As much as I don't care for Microsoft, I have to admit that since I adopted C# about a year and a half ago, my production has roughly tripled, maybe more. I've never had ANY technology have that kind of impact on my development before, unless it was the reverse (making me 3 times LESS productive).
It has nothing to do with being a more experienced programmer. Hey, I've been using java's grid bag layout for 6 months now, and it's great! My UI development has tripled compared to other stuff... even though I have 6 more months in UI programming than i have before.
Uh.. no.. you tend to habituate certain sounds. It's the rare ones you hear. If his fan was what was making too much noise, I'd tell him to get used to it after a while.. like working in a cheese factory, you dont' smell it anymore.
To demonstrate the value of an obscure language, don't write yet-another text editor, IRC client, or RSS aggregator. We don't need any more, and we will feel no desire to try yours. Write something useful that's hard to write in other languages, or (better) hard to write in any language. The obscure language will get some (much-needed) reflected credit from the effort, and if it really helps, that will become evident (only!) when people are inspired to read the code.
Nothing is hard to write.. it's usually just tedious. Given 5 years, I'm sure I can write a browser that is a mimic of opera and what have you. Showing simple solutions, i.e. a text editor, an email client, a clock (since that's graphical) shows what can be done in a language without having to deal with developing a complex architecture. Architectures tend to be unique to the situation and reverse engineering the patterns without an overhead view is quite tedious in itself.
'cause anyone can create a web browser company and do well. Keep costs low, push a good product. Try getting thousands and thousands of developers who have full time lives doing the same thing with financial backing that was taken away.
No. Sound is additive. While you create one noise with the fan, you still have the original noise. I work with headphones on most of the day, and while I don't hear the whitenoise around me, people chattering, phoens which ring continuously, if someone has something that I don't habituate, like some dork with sound on and using IM, I hear it perfectly fine UNLESS I turn it up to deafening levels.
Hopefully, the offender will use a lab, or another room if they have a laptop.
yes, 'cause sometimes I call to find out information that's not readily available. I.e., "I'm thinking of switching credit cards." or "I'll like to switch my cell phone number. " or "Can you link this bank account with this other one?"
'cause our current ways go back to when technology was so primative, that it was impossible. Over time, we grew to trust it more and more. Due to human conservative nature, anything new is scrutanized.
It's expected considering our past stupidity.. or naiveness.. or what have you.
Someone doesn't always need to get hurt for osmething to be a crime. It just has to be against the law. The damages probably would be what could happen if the data was used for ill will, the cost of fixing it or some sorta standard.
Jobs like DB admin need to be close to the DB and to where the info is coming from to properly administer it. System Analysts and Network analysts must be on site to do their job.
There's a oracle dba company, pythian. I've seen them used twice here in the states -- and they are based out in canada. The sysadmins you need local, but other than that, as long as you have a fast line, you are good. Same with systems analysts.. they can usually do their job from afar -- except in the case where they wish to perform on site evaluations, like interviews, working with people as they work,
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Just as there are many bad guys in the world, there are many good ones. In the case of closed source, anyone cannot fix the problem directly. With opensource, even if it's just a bug, I can fix it myself if I am so inclined.
So the many eyes thing still holds. One could further argue, that opensource stuffs can achieve higher quality faster, as both the stupid errors get flushed out really fast.
No, just not stoned enough. /rimshot
Until the spam takes up so much bandwidth for you to download and filter.
No.. it is bad. Middle class is shrinking, and there aren't that many more rich people... So who do you think the money goes to?
Geeks usually have say in the hiring of other geeks. If you can't program worth a shit, and someone asks my expert opinion on
how well you may fit in technically, you are sunk.
I guess eclipse is a big lie too.. since ONLY open source developers use it, or perl, or apache, since it's ONLY opensource peo
ple. Get real. If you do somethign important enough, you can get paid for maintenance and customization. Isn't that how dell
anda few car companies are doing things now? The world isn't about delivering A product, but delivering one YOUR way. It's
a world driven by IS and IT now, not about producing widgets.
Once, I wrote 2d ticker, that supports adding and deleting information on the fly. Nothing many MANY other geeks couldn't do,
but I did it none-the-less. This was in a lull at work, and I wanted to do something interesting. So I wrote it, had it revie
wed and people made suggestions. Did I MAKE anything from it? Yeah, experience. When someone asks me, "Did you know swing an
d the java2d api?" I can now say, "Yeah, I've done some stuff. Nothing commercial, but here's an example of my work. Tell me
what you think of it.
Life isn't about yes's and no's. There's reasons to do OSS... like fulfilling needs other than money. Learning, personal need, experience and just filling in that time when you think doing an ERP project at the office is lame and you wanna get your synapses going.
But believe me, I've seen docs compiled as exe's to provide their own reader back in the day.
But anyway, what's the diff?
It's just too crowded here.
If you can break into the lock to hack it, you can probably just as well remove said lock and open the door anyway :)
Check with a lawyer.
Servers or desktop?
SOAP? XML-RPC?
Everything isn't black or white like that. He's asking advice for making the transition, so you have to assume either he can't quit or he wont' quit. Why he can't, may be family finances or contract. He may not want to due to loyalty to the company, and this is just a snag in the relationship.
Nah, it needs more cowbell :)
If it's ok to displace an entire company w/o compensation, then why do we bother assist people that are in bad situations i.e. over an area of land deemed too dangerous to live in?
Because with TV and arguably, the web, I can turn it off. I know for a fact, tv and the web have ads. It's been a way of life since '95 at least. Remember linkexchange anyone? Email is something *I* own. It is a priv that you get to use my address and actually find me, just like a phone or my front door (travelling salesman).
If I turn on the tube or boot up a browser, it is expected that I'll be hit by at least 1 ad, and it is my choice to subject myself to it. Email is a tool of importance to find me. Abuse it, and I'll do my damnedest to see that you are taken care of via your uplink and anti-spam advocates.
Justify it any way you want, the means do NOT justify the end.
Uh.. your ignorance of swing is showing. On my mac, it uses apple-like widgets. On windows, it looks like windows. If you want to, develop your own widget faces and make your own swing style stuff. As for existing apps looking like ass, programs written in many other languages can easily look like ass if the developer doesn't put time into it. But since you havne't programmed in java and never seen a good java app your opinion on java's stance of "prettiness" is there, eh?
It has nothing to do with being a more experienced programmer. Hey, I've been using java's grid bag layout for 6 months now, and it's great! My UI development has tripled compared to other stuff... even though I have 6 more months in UI programming than i have before.
Uh.. no.. you tend to habituate certain sounds. It's the rare ones you hear. If his fan was what was making too much noise, I'd tell him to get used to it after a while.. like working in a cheese factory, you dont' smell it anymore.
Nothing is hard to write.. it's usually just tedious. Given 5 years, I'm sure I can write a browser that is a mimic of opera and what have you. Showing simple solutions, i.e. a text editor, an email client, a clock (since that's graphical) shows what can be done in a language without having to deal with developing a complex architecture. Architectures tend to be unique to the situation and reverse engineering the patterns without an overhead view is quite tedious in itself.
'cause anyone can create a web browser company and do well. Keep costs low, push a good product. Try getting thousands and thousands of developers who have full time lives doing the same thing with financial backing that was taken away.
So is word, excel, vb for excel, vb for word, access, powerpoint etc...
No. Sound is additive. While you create one noise with the fan, you still have the original noise. I work with headphones on most of the day, and while I don't hear the whitenoise around me, people chattering, phoens which ring continuously, if someone has something that I don't habituate, like some dork with sound on and using IM, I hear it perfectly fine UNLESS I turn it up to deafening levels.
Hopefully, the offender will use a lab, or another room if they have a laptop.
yes, 'cause sometimes I call to find out information that's not readily available. I.e., "I'm thinking of switching credit cards." or "I'll like to switch my cell phone number. " or "Can you link this bank account with this other one?"
It's expected considering our past stupidity.. or naiveness.. or what have you.
Someone doesn't always need to get hurt for osmething to be a crime. It just has to be against the law. The damages probably would be what could happen if the data was used for ill will, the cost of fixing it or some sorta standard.
There's a oracle dba company, pythian. I've seen them used twice here in the states -- and they are based out in canada. The sysadmins you need local, but other than that, as long as you have a fast line, you are good. Same with systems analysts.. they can usually do their job from afar -- except in the case where they wish to perform on site evaluations, like interviews, working with people as they work,