Maybe he meant a lower model or RPi is more than sufficient. Some people are still using ATmega328P-powered Arduinos to control their 3D printers and those move a lot of a hell faster than most CNCs.
1. This shit really stinks, like burning old clothes which were stored in an attic for decades 2. People who are high usually listen to loud music, and it's annoying 3. We can only produce a limited quantity of snacks
I hope that never happens to the Arduino, but history tells me it eventually will.
The real value in Arduino is the community and the compatibility. If they try to go after the clones they'll be cutting a lot of users. Besides, I think they even have "make your own arduino on a protoboard" tutorials, so even clones are more expensive than that.
The one company who must be happy about all this is Atmel. I barely see people talking about Microchips' PIC series anymore.
The low-end Arduino models are the equivalent of what we used to have. The ATtiny and ATmega microcontrollers aren't that much different from the old 8-bit CPUs and the Arduino IDE will teach them to program in C, so your kids can still have great times. It's one thing to code something that happens on a screen, it's something else to be able to make things move, blink and interact with the real world.
The best thing is, Arduino's are so cheap that you can buy one or more for each of your kid and they only need the Arduino IDE (Windows, OS X and Linux) and a USB cable. And for the "Blink" example, it uses the on-board LED so you don't even need to wire up anything to get your first "wow" moment. And Arduino shields makes it extremely easy to add features to the Arduino.
For beginners, I'd recommend going with the Arduino Uno since the ATmega328P is socketed and you can replace it if your kids ever make a mistake and blow it up. It's cheaper and better for the environment than replacing the whole Arduino. If you ever need to buy another ATmega328P, either make sure you can write the bootloader to it or buy one with the bootloader already programmed.
Getting fake shit seems pretty unlikely because the board still has to be programmed, work with the same shields and all, etc. The most important thing for most eBay sellers is their rating, they wouldn't risk it.
Besides, we're not talking about "brand name" clothes or purses here.
As for support, most sellers don't offer support and write that fact in the auction listing. But a few of them offer some support via their Website. As an example, Geeetech has a wiki and forums on their website.
But since the Arduino is open source (and open hardware?) even the clones have to work like the official ones, which means you can usually find help in the regular forums and chat rooms.
Or, you could buy a clone and donate $5 to the project to help support development.
Once you take the shipping cost into account (and duty fees and brokerage fees if you make the mistake of ordering in the USA from Canada), I'd still be way ahead even if I donated 20$.
It's still way cheaper on eBay. Arduino Pro mini on element14? Almost 15$ without shipping. Same thing from dozens of sellers on eBay? Under 3$ shipping included.
I paid under 14$ for an Arduino 2560 R3 (again, shipping included). The same thing costs 46$CAD from canada.newark.com (Element 14) without shipping.
And I suppose monoprice.com are greedy for selling me a 2 dollars cable when the same one only cost 50 cents on eBay shipping included?
Monoprice, however, sent me six replacement cables for free (including shipping) when I emailed them that the five I bought had failed in the last three years.
Faster yes, not 10 times faster. Even if the advances in CPU technology meant that we doubled the computational abilities for the same clock speed, multiplied by the dual core, it would be at best 4 times faster.
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Maybe he meant a lower model or RPi is more than sufficient. Some people are still using ATmega328P-powered Arduinos to control their 3D printers and those move a lot of a hell faster than most CNCs.
When did Adobe sell Flash and who is this new Xenon company? Never heard of them.
I sure hope not, for three reasons:
1. This shit really stinks, like burning old clothes which were stored in an attic for decades
2. People who are high usually listen to loud music, and it's annoying
3. We can only produce a limited quantity of snacks
It's called the Dell Avenue 42 over 9000 mark III rev 4.14, second edition.
A thicker device would be sturdier and have room for a bigger battery.
I just said their product has a stupid name, I don't see that as a positive. The marketing guys can go fuck themselves.
That's the reason fashion runways are getting shorter every year.
Well, at least we know it can run Microsoft Word.
Devices are now thin enough that it's only a pissing contest at this point.
Who the hell decided to call something "Dell Venue 8 7000"? You don't put two numbers one after another, it's just stupid!
Time to fire the marketing guys!
Pickup trucks!
I've never used or even seen Thunderbird in my life but I'm pretty sure email cross-platform compatibility is not something we need to worry about.
In fact I think email should either die or have a massive protocol update of some kind to block spammers, otherwise it's a lost cause.
As soon as I finish working on something, I delete it.
The real value in Arduino is the community and the compatibility. If they try to go after the clones they'll be cutting a lot of users. Besides, I think they even have "make your own arduino on a protoboard" tutorials, so even clones are more expensive than that.
The one company who must be happy about all this is Atmel. I barely see people talking about Microchips' PIC series anymore.
The low-end Arduino models are the equivalent of what we used to have. The ATtiny and ATmega microcontrollers aren't that much different from the old 8-bit CPUs and the Arduino IDE will teach them to program in C, so your kids can still have great times. It's one thing to code something that happens on a screen, it's something else to be able to make things move, blink and interact with the real world.
The best thing is, Arduino's are so cheap that you can buy one or more for each of your kid and they only need the Arduino IDE (Windows, OS X and Linux) and a USB cable. And for the "Blink" example, it uses the on-board LED so you don't even need to wire up anything to get your first "wow" moment. And Arduino shields makes it extremely easy to add features to the Arduino.
For beginners, I'd recommend going with the Arduino Uno since the ATmega328P is socketed and you can replace it if your kids ever make a mistake and blow it up. It's cheaper and better for the environment than replacing the whole Arduino. If you ever need to buy another ATmega328P, either make sure you can write the bootloader to it or buy one with the bootloader already programmed.
Have fun!
Getting fake shit seems pretty unlikely because the board still has to be programmed, work with the same shields and all, etc. The most important thing for most eBay sellers is their rating, they wouldn't risk it.
Besides, we're not talking about "brand name" clothes or purses here.
As for support, most sellers don't offer support and write that fact in the auction listing. But a few of them offer some support via their Website. As an example, Geeetech has a wiki and forums on their website.
But since the Arduino is open source (and open hardware?) even the clones have to work like the official ones, which means you can usually find help in the regular forums and chat rooms.
I said "if I donated". :p
I'd rather help by working on a library or something, the value would be worth much more than 20$.
Once you take the shipping cost into account (and duty fees and brokerage fees if you make the mistake of ordering in the USA from Canada), I'd still be way ahead even if I donated 20$.
It's still way cheaper on eBay. Arduino Pro mini on element14? Almost 15$ without shipping. Same thing from dozens of sellers on eBay? Under 3$ shipping included.
I paid under 14$ for an Arduino 2560 R3 (again, shipping included). The same thing costs 46$CAD from canada.newark.com (Element 14) without shipping.
If you're lucky enough to live in a town big enough to have a Best Buy or similar stores in the first place. The Source, however, is everywhere.
And I suppose monoprice.com are greedy for selling me a 2 dollars cable when the same one only cost 50 cents on eBay shipping included?
Monoprice, however, sent me six replacement cables for free (including shipping) when I emailed them that the five I bought had failed in the last three years.
Faster yes, not 10 times faster. Even if the advances in CPU technology meant that we doubled the computational abilities for the same clock speed, multiplied by the dual core, it would be at best 4 times faster.
And we're getting even more ripped off, up north.
Music? That hasn't been a problem in a long time.
Videos however, are a different story. That's why I've only ever used the "99 cents movie of the week rental" for videos on iTunes.