Slashdot Mirror


Radioshack Declares Bankruptcy

gemtech writes RadioShack has declared bankruptcy today. As reported Monday, the company has struck a deal to sell up to 2,400 of its approximately 4,000 stores to Sprint. From the article: "RadioShack said the remaining stores are expected to close. The company's franchise locations, as well as stores in Mexico and Asia, are not included in the deal. The bankruptcy announcement is no surprise. The New York Stock Exchange suspended trading of its shares on Monday. And RadioShack workers have told CNNMoney that some locations have already been converted to clearance stores."

294 comments

  1. So who's going to buy them? by Sowelu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So you have a bunch of stores for sale in tech-sector-friendly locations, just when Amazon is starting to establish a physical presence... Hmm.

    1. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amazon could just rent out a few of the soon-to-be-abandoned locations and not deal with RS.

    2. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish Digikey or Mouser would buy them.

    3. Re:So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Small businesses flourished under Bush is your position? Seriously?

      Republicans only care about the 1%, nothing else. If you believe otherwise, you are seriously deluded. But that is what they want, so you will vote for them and support them, so they can pillage the country and squeeze some more money out of the vanishing middle class.

    4. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think you are deluded too.... But that's OK, it's a free country, for now....

      I'll never understand the strange vitriol that politics and religion discussions seem to produce in some folk. Have your ideals and principles and stick to them, but there is no reason to denigrate the opposition by setting up these straw men arguments like yours. Of course republicans care about other things, I know many that care greatly about the poor (as evidenced by their charitable giving being bigger than the supposed champions of the poor democrats as a percentage of their income).

      How would you like it if I started calling democrats all socialists? Would *that* be fair? Well, they support communistic ideas with their big government programs you know, and THAT IS what communism starts out as.... But as you are likely to object to this proposed argument, and for good reason, I appeal to your logic and say how is this different than what you are doing above?

      So, tone down the partisan rhetoric a bit and it will help your case... As it is you just sound shrill..

    5. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No not outlaw Walmart, simply raise taxes on Walmart. Walmart can be as big as they want, but make them pay for being big.

    6. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If you look at a map of Republican districts you will find that they cover mostly Rural America.....Hardly the place to find the 1% that you have been misinformed that Republicans represent. It just happens to be that Rural Americans want limited Federal Government, which translates to some of the same things that the 1 may want. But then again it seems like most 1 percent ers publicly support Democrats...

    7. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Correction, rural Americans have been duped into thinking corporate anarchy somehow means FREEDUM!

    8. Re:So who's going to buy them? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      How about just cut their constant tax giveaways.

    9. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      they already do.
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/04/14/phantastical-nonsense-about-walmart-the-waltons-and-7-8-billion-in-tax-breaks/

      however, your politicians get desperate during re-election and keep handing out corporate welfare in the name of "job creation".

    10. Re:So who's going to buy them? by zarthrag · · Score: 2

      No not outlaw Walmart, simply tax Walmart.

      FTFY

      Walmart is quite subsidized to the point that it makes the 30% Mom & Pop pay downright mean.

      --
      Why can't all fpga/microcontroller manufacturers just release free optimizing compilers???
    11. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      and democrats only care about their bureaucratic fiefdoms. the two together create the hell we have.

    12. Re:So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 0

      Odd. You seem like a smart person but you seem to miss the fact that politics affect all of us. Of course, that is what the people in charge want.

      I wish Democrats positioned themselves more as socialists. As it is, they are mostly spineless and beholden to the same moneyed interests as the Republicans, maybe a little less so but the result is still that the status quo is mostly maintained.

      We shouldn't need charity in a society that takes care of its citizens.

    13. Re: So who's going to buy them? by rfengr · · Score: 0

      Digikey and Mouser make their money from selling to engineers, not hobbyists.

    14. Re:So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 0

      Because he didn't fix this he didn't change anything? He changed lots of things, like the ACA which eliminated lifetime caps and pre-existing conditions as an exclusionary criterion for health insurance. Is he perfect? Of course not. But if nothing else, he did less damage than Bush (a low bar, I know).

    15. Re:So who's going to buy them? by towermac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You think you're enlightened, but you're a foot soldier for 'the people in charge'.

      Down with the rich eh? That's what the French did. The Russians did it too. They finally got fed up. I mean, that's what you actually have to do in the end, if you really want to take the rich people's money. You have to kill them all, and their families. Then, the next day, you and I report to new rich people, albeit with less taste.

      Did you really just envision a society without charity? Can you hear yourself?

      The answer is not to oppress everybody equally.

    16. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Actually, no (at least not completely). Digi-Key is a favorite shopping spot for many hobbyists because they have cheap shipping, and an incredible inventory. The prices are rather high though, but for people ordering only single-digit quantities, it's not out of line. But unlike a lot of places, Digi-Key will ship small orders by First Class Mail for next to nothing, whereas most other distributors want to send everything UPS Ground for $10+ per shipment. If you just want to order a handful of cheap parts, that shipping charge is a killer, but with Digi-Key it's quite economical.

      Of course, the bulk of their business is probably selling to engineers in prototype quantities. Buying production quantities from them is idiotic, however, because their prices are high; you can always get better prices somewhere else like Avnet or Arrow or Future.

      Mouser's kinda in the middle: they have a very good inventory (unlike Avnet, Arrow, and Future, which are more limited to which manufacturers they carry and they're out of stock of a lot of stuff at times), and their prices are cheaper than Digi-Key's. Mouser's my go-to store most of the time for buying smaller quantities of things, or prototype quantities, or sometimes for things the other places just don't carry.

    17. Re:So who's going to buy them? by towermac · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's some weak sauce man, although the Forbes rebuttal is even weaker.

      They're counting the fact that dividends are taxed lower than wages. They're counting accelerated depreciation too. That's tax law, and it's no different for Wally World than it is for anybody else.

      The big number is the shit wages that make employees rely on food stamps, school lunch; all those Federal subsidies. That argument actually has some legs. But is that Wal-Mart's fault? All those Federal subsidies were already there, thus creating the environment that Wal-Mart could survive in. Then they move in, take advantage of it, and get rich. If not an Arkansas hillbilly, then somebody would have.

      Let me ask you this: On the day Wal-Mart opened in your town, there was still a hardware store, and an independent grocery store, clothing and shoe stores, ...
      Did you still go to those places, and never go to Wal-Mart? Myself, I resisted, but soon those stores were gone. And one by one those employees went to work at Wal-Mart for half the money.

      Maybe you didn't go in. Everybody else did. You sure it's just 'The Government' that's at fault here?

    18. Re: So who's going to buy them? by rfengr · · Score: 1

      Yes, but Digikey is not making any money off of you. Until recently, they had a handling fee for any orders under $25. I too buy Digikey for home use, but have probably funneled $1M their way as an EE, which includes tape and reel. They often are the only ones to have several uF ceramic caps; I suppose they have the clout to buy up the inventory. But yeah, great prices on USPS shipping. Mouser is good too.

    19. Re:So who's going to buy them? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      Small businesses are flourishing under Obama is your position?

      "Small businesses" in this context are ones that hire 499 or fewer employees. We're not talking about pizzerias here.

    20. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Uberbah · · Score: 0

      But is that Wal-Mart's fault?

      How is it not.

      All those Federal subsidies were already there, thus creating the environment that Wal-Mart could survive in. Then they move in, take advantage of it, and get rich. If not an Arkansas hillbilly, then somebody would have.

      She made you do it with her short skirt!

    21. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      FYI, Digi-Key will ship your order for free if you mail them a check or money order.

      * When a check or money order accompanies your order, Digi-Key pays all shipping and insurance (our choice for method of shipping) to all addresses in the U.S. and Canada.

      Section II.6

    22. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why would they want to undertake unnecessary retail rental overheads though?

      They need to function out of massive warehouses and don't need walk-in business at all.

    23. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 1

      I didn't say there shouldn't be any charity. Please don't put words into my mouth and then attack me on them.

      What is your solution for the damage that is being inflicted by the ever-expanding wealth gap? Ignore it? Cut taxes?

      I just read that Tennessee voted against a plan to provide 280,000 low-income Tennesseans with federally funded health insurance. Oh well, who cares about poor people. Keep voting Republican, suckers.

    24. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 0

      Welcome to the race to the bottom, brought to you by Walmart.

    25. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 1

      You think Republicans represent poor rural people? Don't make me laugh.

      I shouldn't have to explain this, but Republicans use racism, homophobia, abortion and gun-fondling as wedge issues to rally these people who would otherwise have no reason to vote for them, given that their economic policies consistently harm the poor and middle class.

    26. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Republicans only care about the 1%, nothing else.

      Given that half the voters are Republican, that doesn't make much sense.

      And Democratic politicians are usually "the 1%", and their donors are often very wealthy.

      so they can pillage the country and squeeze some more money out of the vanishing middle class

      Since 2008, it's Democrats that have been pillaging the country and destroying the middle class.

    27. Re:So who's going to buy them? by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As it is, they are mostly spineless and beholden to the same moneyed interests as the Republicans, maybe a little less so but the result is still that the status quo is mostly maintained.

      Odd then that you seem to favor Democrats over Republicans. Democrats have handed out huge favors to the rich, to banks, to Wall Street, and to corporations.

      We shouldn't need charity in a society that takes care of its citizens.

      You're right: depending on private charity is demeaning and unreliable. Unfortunately, it turns out that depending on public welfare is even more demeaning and even more unreliable.

      I wish Democrats positioned themselves more as socialists.

      Me too. I mean, socialists are at least honest about the fact that they hate the middle class ("the bourgeoisie") and want to destroy it; Democrats are still pretending they want to help us.

      (I'm no friend of Republicans, but really, stop being so naive about Democrats.)

    28. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Walmart is quite subsidized [americansf...irness.org] to the point that it makes the 30% Mom & Pop pay downright mean.

      Sorry, but that analysis is bullshit; those aren't "subsidies", they are simply parts of the tax code that the author disagrees with, often for irrational reasons.

      You don't like food stamps? I don't either. Let's get rid of them. Walmart didn't ask for them.

      Accelerated depreciation works the same for everybody and actually encourages new investments; that's why we have it. It's not a "tax break".

      And investment income should not be taxed like salaries; in fact, it arguably shouldn't be taxed at all, since we already have a high corporate tax and since it only discourages investment. And high taxes on investment income really hurt the middle class.

    29. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the French revolution worked quite well for Europe.

    30. Re:So who's going to buy them? by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      Curiously, Radio Shack in Sunnyvale was basically empty a few days ago except for the electronic components section, which is all I care about anyway. Here's hoping they co-brand it with Sprint and keep that back section stocked as-is. :-)

      --

      Check out my sci-fi/humor trilogy at PatriotsBooks.

    31. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure, in lots of ways the Democrats are terrible, but the Republicans are far worse.

      So you have terrible government, which seems to be a reflection of the apathy towards politics enjoyed by the majority of Americans. You get the government you deserve. That doesn't mean all government is necessarily bad.

      Socialism as practiced in Western Europe doesn't seem so bad. At least they have decent health care. But of course the American system which spends way more and has worse outcomes is superior because Murikah, yeah!

    32. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 0

      You're right, it doesn't make sense that almost half the country would vote for people who want destroy them. But that's the power of wedge issues, and racism. And thus you get the government you deserve.

      I'm not going to comment on the rest of your nonsense. Good night.

    33. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 0

      You sound like a shill for the wealthy.

      The middle class isn't hurt by taxing investment income. The middle class is hurt by taxing wages, since that is its primary source of income. Investment income happens while you sleep and others work, and therefore we should tax the hell out of it.

    34. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as a simple matter of definition, the bourgeoisie ie the capitalist class are folks who own the means of production and invest their capital in an enterprise to privately collect the surplus value their workers produce. the bourgeoisie are business owners or "the 1%" to use the fad term. marxism 101.

      the American "middle class" are nothing more than relatively highly compensated members of the working class, who tend to have enough disposable income to not get tetchy. for fear of losing their relatively privileged status within the working class, they are willing to accept policies that hurt workers lower on the payscale and forgo basic labor rights. the invention of the middle class is a classic divide- and-conquer tactic used implemented by business owners (the bourgeoisie) to avert threats to their position.

    35. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "1%" do not exist. They are not a special group with magical abilities. It is just an arbitrary number set by people to direct their jealousy.

    36. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      Without the rich, we wouldn't have had amazing startups like Tesla. Elon Musk is gonna help save the world (or at least, massively advance the state of cars, rockets and maybe even global internet), and none of that would've happened without him earning millions from Paypal.

      What you really should be fighting for is a universal income where everybody receives say £50 a week (even the rich), and it can grow from there. That's what you want without even realizing it.

      --
      Why OpalCalc is the best Windows calc
    37. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to elaborate on the 'therefore' part. From what I can tell, the 'argument' is simply that you are jealous and therefore want to steal other people's money.

    38. Re:So who's going to buy them? by houghi · · Score: 2

      Yes, it is the government at fault. Perhaps just the local one, but still. In Brussels there is a LOT of talk for a big shopping center. The reason is because it will suck away the local stores. That not only will mean less employment, but also a downwards spiral of the value of the area.

      I do not blame Wall-Mart for abusing the system. I blame the government for not changing the system when they see it is being abused.

      If employees need foodstamps, then there is clearly something wrong.

      And yes, I think it is good that a government tries to stop business practices when they will have clearly a negative influence on the rest of the population in how they live.

      What we see now is the opposite of what Ford did. Instead of making products cheaper and giving people more money so they can buy the products and more time to spend it, give them less money and fuck them.

      It is grab, grab, grab and the government doesn't do anything if not enhance the ability to do so.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    39. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Europe the Middle Ages only really ended for normal people after the French Revolution and its reverberations. If it hadn't happened, there might not have been a middle class for hundreds of years and modern life as we know it might not have existed.

    40. Re:So who's going to buy them? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I really don't understand what's so bad about Walmart anyway. The customers get lower prices, and the employees probably have it better too. I've worked at a mom and pop store, and there was very little good about it. The pay was minimum wage, there was no benefits. Getting time off was next to impossible because they had so few employees.

      --

      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    41. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anybody with a bit of sense should care about the 1%, because they're what matters. The middle class is finished and as for the rest of the losers, they're already as good as dead. In a couple of generations the One Percenters will be the ONLY population left on Earth, which will make the leisure society and a sustainable development a reality. Think of that!

    42. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The wealthy do not need shills. Everything is already going smoothly.

    43. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if it's not Obama . . . it *must* be Republican and more specifically Bush.

      Wow, what a narrow view.

    44. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We shouldn't need charity in a society that takes care of its citizens.

      Charity: taking care of those less-fortunate.

      Let me rephrase your sentence:

      We shouldn't need charity in a society that has charity.

      It seems to me that you don't understand what charity is. You say it is not needed but only if we have it to begin with.

    45. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is your solution for the damage that is being inflicted by the ever-expanding wealth gap?

      That begs the question: Does a wealth gap inflict damage?

      That just seems absurd that a difference in wealth causes damage. Now it does mean that everyone isn't driving a Maserati. Boohoo, such inequality.

    46. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Way to use taxes as a weapon to punish someone who's behavior you dislike.

      Think about that for a bit.

    47. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are one 100% wrong...

    48. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Mr.+Droopy+Drawers · · Score: 2

      citations, please.

      Methinks you need to lay off the CNBC & MSNBC...

      --

      To Copy from One is Plagiarism; To Copy from Many is Research.

    49. Re:So who's going to buy them? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I really don't understand what's so bad about Walmart anyway.

      People are literally falling over one another to tell you about it, so you are spectacularly willfully ignorant.

      The customers get lower prices, and the employees probably have it better too.

      The customers get shittier products, and the employees don't get enough to live on so Wal-Mart training films include How to Apply for General Assistance.

      I've worked at a mom and pop store, and there was very little good about it. The pay was minimum wage, there was no benefits.

      Wal-Mart pays some employees slightly above minimum wage, but most of them not. Once an employee has been there for long, they get a little more money, but most of them aren't there long enough for that to happen.

      Getting time off was next to impossible because they had so few employees.

      With Wal-Mart, getting time on will be your problem.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    50. Re:So who's going to buy them? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That's tax law, and it's no different for Wally World than it is for anybody else.

      Laws are bought by the wealthy for the benefit of the wealthy. "It's the law" is no excuse for bad behavior. It's understandable, but not acceptable.

      The big number is the shit wages that make employees rely on food stamps, school lunch; all those Federal subsidies. That argument actually has some legs. But is that Wal-Mart's fault?

      Yes. Yes it is. See above paragraph.

      Maybe you didn't go in. Everybody else did. You sure it's just 'The Government' that's at fault here?

      The government was constructed by the would-be ruling class of the country (racially privileged businessmen) to make themselves the ruling class and keep them that way. They felt the best way to accomplish that was to grant citizens certain rights. (Forget all this balderdash about 'natural rights', since in practice any right not guaranteed will be stepped upon, and most of the rights which are will be as well.) For this we canonized them. We should celebrate their brilliance, yes, but also try to do better. Don't settle for being as good as people from two centuries ago. Progress.

      The government is being wielded as intended by those who have purchased it. The government is not the problem, it is a symptom of the problem — but it still exacerbates the problem.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    51. Re: So who's going to buy them? by dywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah yes. The idea that the rich create jobs and businesses out of the goodness of their hearts.....

      --
      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    52. Re:So who's going to buy them? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Down with the rich eh? That's what the French did. The Russians did it too. They finally got fed up. I mean, that's what you actually have to do in the end, if you really want to take the rich people's money. You have to kill them all, and their families. Then, the next day, you and I report to new rich people, albeit with less taste.

      As it turns out, people are not very smart, and rich people are not actually any smarter than the rest of us. What actually happens is that people who have advantages over others exploit them, often heedless of consequence to others, and they then get to remain in control of the system, with eventual ill effect for all. So what happens is, some people rise to the top regardless of merit, then they rest on their laurels and spawn inbred idiots, and then torches and pitchforks. Lather, rinse, repeat, up until we learn to become personally involved in politics by building systems of government which are powered by citizen involvement.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    53. Re:So who's going to buy them? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      The "economic reality" you speak of is the business practice of paying people so little they have no choice but to obtain federal services in order to not be homeless, effectively subsidizing the private profits or the world's largest retailer (and others) by offloading the a portion of their wages to the government.

      The solution is remarkably simple: require the minimum wage be more closely matched to the cost of living. Miraculously, anyone who is working is earning enough to not require assistance, saving tax dollars.

      This helps mom and pops get a more equal footing, as part of the strategy of a large corp is that they can defray costs in one area by exploiting the economic differences between different cities/states/etc. But a combination of minimum wage laws (Federal floor, and then state and city ordinances tuned to their local costs of living) can do a lot of mitigate that.

      And as I said, as a bonus the tax payer is no longer subsidizing Wal-Mart's profits through below poverty level wages.

      --
      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    54. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Bonzoli · · Score: 1

      Odd it this pdf doesn't also have, the state covered cost of expanding roads/streetlights/lanes/watershed run off into rivers, or the crazy tax breaks states like Michigan gave, even though it was in direct competition with local companies like Meijer to build a new store, which Meijer never got. All though some of this is being addressed its spotty, non consistant, and generally doesn't cover the cost of most of the employees not making enough so the local schools and cities get the added burden of low tax residents. Loss of local revenue from businesses that dried up that also paid taxes on buildings and sales.
      We should also figure in the lack of tarrifs and crazy expanding middle class, who manufacture so many goods in the US now.
      Follow the money, its like footprints in the snow, and it leads right up to the Mercedes door of your elected officials.

    55. Re: So who's going to buy them? by operagost · · Score: 1

      Do you go to work out of the goodness of your heart? Most of us don't. Most of us worry about, at least, food, clothing, and shelter.

      --

      Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
    56. Re: So who's going to buy them? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      That begs the question: Does a wealth gap inflict damage?

      Well, the answer is no. But that still doesn't mean everything is good. A wealth gap is the damage. A healthy society is mostly middle class. That's how you know it's serving the needs and desires of its citizenry: it enables success.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    57. Re:So who's going to buy them? by SkimTony · · Score: 1

      Becoming a Sprint store will allow them to keep about 50% of the inventory in the store! But seriously, most of the RadioShacks near me have been mobile phone resellers with a few other things in the back (about which the staff knows nothing) for years.

    58. Re:So who's going to buy them? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      The customers get shittier products

      I fail to see how the Cheerios I buy at Walmart are any different than the Cheerios I buy at any other store, and they aren't any different than they were before Walmart even existed. Sure if you buy a $100 bike at Walmart then it will be terrible compared to the $400-$1000 bike at your local bike shop, but what did you really expect. That's not specific to Walmart, all large retailers sell the same junk.

      Wal-Mart pays some employees slightly above minimum wage, but most of them not. Once an employee has been there for long, they get a little more money, but most of them aren't there long enough for that to happen.

      At least at Walmart there is a slight possiblity of moving up in pay and even possibly up the ladder to something like manager. At the mom and pop, they have absolutely no ability to pay you more than minimum wage. And there is no chance of getting into management because the management is the sole function of the owners.

      People constantly complain about Walmart, I get that. And they aren't without their faults. But I don't see how they are any worse than any other large retailer. And personally, I would rather work at a place like Walmart than work for a mom and pop store. I think most of the complaints about Walmart are actually correct, but I don't see them being specific to Walmart, but rather just about every retail operation.

      --

      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    59. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or not...based on the basic "Invisible Hand" theory that anyone who knows two shits about buisness learned in Business 101.

    60. Re:So who's going to buy them? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I fail to see how the Cheerios I buy at Walmart are any different than the Cheerios I buy at any other store, and they aren't any different than they were before Walmart even existed.

      General Mills is a massive conglomerate with incredible power. If Wal-Mart doesn't carry their product, people will simply buy it somewhere else. But for smaller companies, Wal-Mart is in a position to dictate terms. If they demand a cheaper price on a product, and they simultaneously demand that you not sell them an inferior version of a product, then the product gets cheaped out for Wal-Mart's benefit and all the purchasers of that product suffer.

      People constantly complain about Walmart, I get that. And they aren't without their faults. But I don't see how they are any worse than any other large retailer.

      Because they're larger, and being larger means they have a stronger position, which if abused will do more damage. It's simply a question of scale. If Kmart had become that big, they'd have presented the same problem.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    61. Re:So who's going to buy them? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Radioshack hasn't been a tech-sector-friendly store for decades.
      The cell phone stuff you can get at your ATT Sprint or Verizon store.
      The networking wires you can get a Home Depot.
      I guess you will need to find someone who will have that 1 3'x3'x2' shelf that has switches, resistors, capacitors and LEDs. Heck I couldn't find logic chips anymore.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    62. Re: So who's going to buy them? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      *whoosh*

      --
      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    63. Re: So who's going to buy them? by dywolf · · Score: 1

      *double whoosh*

      --
      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    64. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 1

      Don't you think people suffer from lack of money?

      Do you think bridges maintain themselves?

    65. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 1

      We need the rich in order to  to innovate?

      Right, all those people that advanced physics in the early 20th century were all millionaires.

      Some accumulation of capital by some people is okay. But excessive wealth imbalance which enables more of it is bad for society. Who is going to buy the stuff the capitalists make if everybody is living on subsistence wages?

    66. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 1

      Please do your own research.

      I just posted about what happened in Tennessee where Republicans rejected a Republican(!) plan to help 280.000 low-income people. Did you think the government shutdown or all the wasted attempts to repeal Obamacare helped the poor? Or reinstating medical spending caps and pre-existing conditions?

      Please lay off watching Fox News.

    67. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      Whether he's right or wrong, he's thinking it'll help save the world. That's pretty noble if nothing else. Doing it for the good of everyone, and trying to earn a profit are not mutually exclusive.

      --
      Why OpalCalc is the best Windows calc
    68. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what the fuck do you suggest the Federal government do to save mom and pops? Outlaw Walmart?

      The economic realities have made mom and pops increasingly less viable since the 1980s. You'd be better off blaming China.

      Why blame China? Why not blame the corporations that moved all their manufacturing to China?

      That is what we expect Obama to do about it.

    69. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what the fuck do you suggest the Federal government do to save mom and pops? Outlaw Walmart?

      That's an easy solution:
      Make the minimum wage scale on a per-company basis based on the percentage of its workforce that is on welfare. If 50% of a company's employees draw welfare, that company has to pay a minimum of $14.50/hour, etc. etc.

      Make the companies share the cost of the externalities they create and then let the market sort it out. If Walmart can compete on convenience and selection, great. If Walmart competes by letting Federal assistance programs subsidize their wages...fuck that noise.

    70. Re:So who's going to buy them? by thegameiam · · Score: 1

      The solution is remarkably simple: require the minimum wage be more closely matched to the cost of living. Miraculously, anyone who is working is earning enough to not require assistance, saving tax dollars.

      You do realize that raising the minimum wage has consequences on small businesses, right? Take a look at Borderlands Books in SF, which is now closing because they can't afford the increase.

      If anything, increasing the minimum wage will speed the consolidation of small businesses into a smaller number of larger ones, because Wal-Mart is more able to absorb increased costs than Bob's house of whatever is.

      --
      Need Geek Rock? Try The Franchise!
    71. Re:So who's going to buy them? by thegameiam · · Score: 1

      It is useless to search for a resistor.

      (rimshot!)

      --
      Need Geek Rock? Try The Franchise!
    72. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . . . and none of that would've happened without him earning millions from Paypal.

      Ah yes. The idea that the rich create jobs and businesses out of the goodness of their hearts.....

      Doesn't look like he claimed it was out of the goodness of their hearts. I don't have a problem with exchange that is free of coercion and deception.

    73. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      They often are the only ones to have several uF ceramic caps

      Huh? I buy 10uF 1206 Samsung caps from Arrow all the time. These things aren't hard to find; they're always in stock and there's many different mfgrs. The things that can be hard to find are particular ICs, since they're usually single-source and get bought up in big lots.

    74. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Psst--we're all trying to be polite and pretend you aren't needing a review of what logical fallacies are. Well, we were anyway...

    75. Re: So who's going to buy them? by nmr_andrew · · Score: 1

      I think it's actually simpler to refer to the 3 Gs: God, guns, and gays. Although they do seem to be losing the war on that last one...

    76. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 1

      Thanks!

    77. Re: So who's going to buy them? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      We all know the Marxist definitions.

      The question is why would anyone care about a failed economic philosophies definitions? It's not like Marx was correct about any of his historical predictions.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    78. Re:So who's going to buy them? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Minimum wage is just another way of saying minimum employable skill level.

      If someones work is wroth less then minimum wage they are unemployable.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    79. Re:So who's going to buy them? by towermac · · Score: 1

      Those inbred idiots invariably squander those fortunes by spending it. Which is the best thing a rich man can do for me. Giving it to the government helps me indirectly, and I never said no or ridiculously low taxes (not saying you said I did).

      But coming to my place of business and buying something is the best and most direct way for me to get my hands on rich people's money.

      My premise was that you try and try to tax the rich more, and you just end up empowering them more with multi-thousand page tax laws that only they understand. The rich really are in charge, and we will never legislate their money away. There is only one way to truly take it from them.

      Instead of taking it, wouldn't it be better if they just freely spent it? Why aren't they doing that? If they did that, then they don't have that money anymore and we do. And it gets taxed, again. Why are they parking $4+ trillion in the Caymans and Ireland? Keep in mind, while they are hiding their money overseas, they themselves have to do without it in the meantime.

      The Caymans and Ireland and Switzerland were there before this wealth gap, and yet the rich used to take the income, pay the tax, and spent or invested the rest. What has changed? Well, that could be a book right there.

      Use the greed of the rich as your indicator: If they are willing to do without their own money to avoid the tax, then the tax is too high. It's also way, way too complicated. It should be a reasonable rate that nobody gets out of.

    80. Re:So who's going to buy them? by towermac · · Score: 1

      I wasn't defending the King.

      I submit that the French did it wrong. You can have a revolution without guillotines. The French were worse off for longer than they had to be because of the over the top bloody way they did it. They disrupted their economy terribly, and a lot of good and innocent people died.

      But eventually, yes, they were better off.

    81. Re:So who's going to buy them? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The Caymans and Ireland and Switzerland were there before this wealth gap, and yet the rich used to take the income, pay the tax, and spent or invested the rest. What has changed? Well, that could be a book right there.

      What has changed is that the wealth has fallen into fewer and fewer hands, and it needs to be in more hands to be spent more. It doesn't take a book, or even a pamphlet. It fits in a fortune cookie.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    82. Re: So who's going to buy them? by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 1

      Sure, in lots of ways the Democrats are terrible, but the Republicans are far worse.

      They aren't "far worse". Democrats and Republicans each pick positions that appeal to different groups of voters, with the end result that they usually each get about 50% of the vote.

      Socialism as practiced in Western Europe doesn't seem so bad.

      Well, of course it doesn't "seem so bad" to you because you seem to be ignorant of what is actually going on in Europe, starting with the ridiculous notion that Western Europe "practices socialism".

      Countries like Germany are governed by Christian conservatives: the budget is balanced through cuts in benefits and the military; health insurance is private and not very generous; welfare recipients get much less money; government surveillance is widespread; churches and corporations receive large amounts of money from the government and co-write the laws; gay marriage doesn't exist and abortions are limited. Need I go on?

      At least they have decent health care. But of course the American system which spends way more and has worse outcomes is superior because Murikah, yeah!

      People like you would be screaming bloody murder if the US actually adopted health care systems like Switzerland or Germany; you'd think the US had been taken over by rabid right wingers. And even their systems are running into financial problems.

      And as someone who actually had a choice in the matter and a basis for comparison, you bet I chose "Murikah".

      which seems to be a reflection of the apathy towards politics enjoyed by the majority of Americans

      Not at all. Rather, it's a reflection of selfishness, greed, and ignorance like yours.

    83. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the bourgeoisie are business owners or "the 1%" to use the fad term. marxism 101.

      "Business owners" is pretty much everybody with a positive net worth, since almost everything is invested in stocks these days.

      the invention of the middle class is a classic divide- and-conquer tactic

      More precisely, it currently is a political strategy used by Democrats, telling everybody that they are a member of the poor, suffering middle class and should be the beneficiaries of money taken from "the 1%".

    84. Re: So who's going to buy them? by MSJos · · Score: 1

      Republicans are obstructionists; remember the government shutdown? Or are you going to blame that on the Democrats?

      Read www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/04/1127557/-A-tale-of-two-party-platforms-a-choice-of-the-future-or-the-past and see if you still think the parties are the same. You'll probably say it's all words. It's true that a lack of spine and the Blue Dogs are hurting the Democrats among its progressive base.

      Im from Europe and have had first hand experience with the health care system there. I had full coverage for anything needed and never had any trouble with it.

      At any rate, keep on posting but I'm done talking with you. Good luck with your messed up country!

    85. Re:So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The "1%" do not exist.

      So are you denying that the top 25% of income earned does in fact go to the top 1% of earners?

      > They are not a special group with magical abilities.

      "A 2011 study by the CBO found that the top earning 1 percent of households increased their income by about 275% after federal taxes and income transfers over a period between 1979 and 2007, compared to a gain of just under 40% for the 60 percent in the middle of America's income distribution." WP

      Sounds like a super power to me.

      > It is just an arbitrary number set by people to direct their jealousy.

      Or it's the anger of exploited people who are cheated out of the value they produce, by a system that's tilted against them?

      For all the noise about "trickle down" that the Republicans made, we still have a "trickle up" system. American productivity has increased 300% in the last 30 years, and ALL the gains went to the rich while the lower and middle classes had to trudge on with basically the same income.

      You really don't understand why people are fed up with this crap, do you?

    86. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Im from Europe [...] Good luck with your messed up country!

      You've chosen to be in this "messed up country" for more than two decades. Obviously, it must give you something you couldn't get in Europe, otherwise you'd have returned there long ago. It's easy to see what: a higher salary, a 401k plan, stock options, lots of jobs to choose from, and employers that like your skills so much that they are willing to put up with your attitude. And of course, you're still part of a privileged elite, living in a wealthy part of the country, where none of the b.s. you advocate actually is actually going to hurt you.

      See, I'm from Europe too. Unlike you, I understand that I enjoy these benefits in the US only because the US isn't Europe, and I'd like it to keep it that way.

      (Of course, at this point, you may also feel a little trapped in the US. You have fond memories of Europe colored by the rosy glasses of memory and a general lack of understanding of what's happening in Europe on the ground. Maybe you are pissed and envious that other techies struck it so much richer in Silicon Valley than you did. Or you're having a general midlife crisis. And you probably realize that fitting back into European society would be a tad difficult and that you'd have a hard time finding a job in Europe that paid half as much as your US jobs. I suggest coming to terms with these issues: you'll be better off.)

    87. Re: So who's going to buy them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Im from Europe and have had first hand experience with the health care system there

      There is no "the health care system" in Europe; every nation has its own system, with its own advantages and disadvantages. However, they all face pretty much the same set of issues the American system faces. Some of them are far more market oriented than the US system (those tend to do better).

      And based on your CV, you're comparing a distant memory of Europe as a young man (=free health care, much simpler medical service, free education, few worries) with the complexities of midlife in the US.

      If you think Europe is so much better, take a job there for a few years. Believe me, it will quickly disabuse you of your silly notions. Of course, someone who can't even be bothered with commuting from Sunnyvale to Palo Alto isn't going to put up with any of the b.s. European jobs and European life imposes on you in the first place. So your choices already suggest that your advocacy of European policies is nostalgia, while the rational side of you realizes where you're better off.

      Republicans are obstructionists; remember the government shutdown? Or are you going to blame that on the Democrats?

      Good! I applaud them for it! It stopped the Democrats from handing out tax dollars to corporations even faster than they would otherwise have done. I hope the Democrats will be just as obstructionist again when Republicans are in power. Obstructionism and ineffective government have generally served this country well.

      but I'm done talking with you

      You are. You really have issues you need to work through on your own now.

  2. consumerism wins! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's what happens when nobody builds or repairs anything anymore ever. Throw it away, buy a new one. Luckily the corporate consumerists haven't adopted the same strategy yet, or we'd be seeing massive layoffs and turnover.

    1. Re:consumerism wins! by 97cobra · · Score: 0

      I see what you did there. ;-)

    2. Re:consumerism wins! by Megane · · Score: 5, Funny

      So where will I go now to get blank stares?

      --
      #naabhaprzrag, #sverubfr-000, #agi-fcbafberq, negvpyr[pynff*=' negvpyr-ary-'] { qvfcynl: abar !vzcbegnag; }
    3. Re:consumerism wins! by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      --
      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

    4. Re:consumerism wins! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Luckily the corporate consumerists haven't adopted the same strategy yet, or we'd be seeing massive layoffs and turnover.

      You're aware IBM just announced 100,000 layoffs (not a typo, one hundred thousand people) right?

    5. Re:consumerism wins! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't announce that

    6. Re:consumerism wins! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah I forgot, they're pretending they're not in the midst of the largest single layoff of any company in the last 30 years.

    7. Re:consumerism wins! by mirix · · Score: 2

      It might be different in the US, but in Canada they always had terrible stock. So if your thing didn't have a broken lamp or speaker, or a dead battery - you were SOL, as they didn't carry anything else.

      There's so much different silicon now that it isn't really feasible to stock even a small portion of it in every mall anyway, so most anything you fix you'll have to order in parts for...

      It would have been more reasonable when I was a kid (and they only stocked a whopping 3 transistors and zero fets then, too).

      --
      Sent from my PDP-11
    8. Re:consumerism wins! by houghi · · Score: 1

      Clearly you do not live in a 'right to work' state, because that is exactly what they are doing. They trow you away and take a new one.
      You took a holiday? Take your stuff and we will hire the next one till that one is broken.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    9. Re:consumerism wins! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't physically repair a lot of the electronics today. It's all SoCs, proprietary ARM CPUs and FPGAs. The day of replacing a burned out FET or cap died in the 80s. No one can get hold of schematics or service docs, you're on your own and without very expensive reverse engineering gear, you are totally fucked. It's the price we pay for the price/power/size of the devices. What is a problem is devices without replaceable batteries, they all have a finite life set to the weakest components; or the fixed usage circuitry that refuses to work after a pre-determined usage. E.g. LED lightbulbs, fixed to die like incandescent even though the LEDs will last for decades, printers after X pages, coffee machines, cat litter machines, ink carts with DRM et al.

    10. Re:consumerism wins! by dywolf · · Score: 2

      Radio Shacks problems stem in large part from migrating from a parts/geek store to a consumer store.
      Selling gadgets, phones, TVs, and such, and less of the stuff they were originally known for.
      They shifted markets, shifted their focus, and were unable to compete.

      Meanwhile their backstop, components and parts, they tried to still do, but now you had to order and wait, rather than having a stock in store. Problem was as they did this, the internet was making them irrelevant. Why go to a physical store and place an order when I can go to Mouser.com from home. RadioShack lost their components business to the online retailers like Mouser, because they failed to compete with them. Radio Shack -still- has a vastly inferior online presence for the parts and component market.

      RadioShack is dying because of a series of poor decisions on the part of its management: they tried to get into a market they couldn't compete in, and forsook their home turf allowing upstarts to steal their traditional market from them.

      --
      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    11. Re:consumerism wins! by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Best Buy.

  3. they probably still want your name, address, and p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    they probably still want your name, address, and phone number in the clearance store

  4. Goodbye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Goodbye old friend.

    Although, I thought you had died years ago.

    1. Re:Goodbye by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Radio Shack of my youth did die years ago.

      I remember in the early 1980s the owner of the Radio Shack in my town would let me monkey around with the Color Computers, the Model 4s and the Model 100s. My grandfather bought me my first computer; a lowly Radio Shack MC-10, when I was 10 years old and I remember reading the manual from front to back about three or four times. My earliest programming experience was on that little computer, with 4k of RAM onboard and a 16k expansion module.

      Good memories, but that store went away a long time ago, replaced by an unremarkable stereo and cell phone dealer staffed by people who could barely read the sales brochures.

      --
      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    2. Re:Goodbye by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Goodbye old friend.

      Although, I thought you had died years ago.

      Oh they did die years ago, it's just nobody found out until now...

      --
      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    3. Re:Goodbye by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I feel that way too... See also my other comment to this story (which links to my Jan 15 comment).
      http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

      Or, as it says here:
      ""This Is Why RadioShack Is in Trouble"
      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/...
      "Feb. 2 -- Radio Shack is in talks to close half it's stores and convert the other half into Spirit mobile shops. If that happens will anyone even notice? Bloomberg took to the streets of San Francisco to ask potential customers how much they really know about Radio Shack. The lack of knowledge or attachment to the brand illustrates just why Radio Shack is going broke."

      I'm still attached to the brand somehow from my memories of the 1970s and early 1980s though, and so I am saddened by this news, but I also felt for decades that the brand is no longer what I remember and so the 1990s-2010s RadioShack is not really *my* RadioShack. Although, since I also went to RS together with my father, if he is not around now, it can't ever be the same in that sense, and my own kid has different interests in any case, sigh.

      And of course there are also some bad memories from the 1970s-1980s of the difficulty of actually purchasing anything as they wanted your address and phone and so on for every tiny order; I guess it was a good exercise in eventually learning to say "no thanks" to such requests. :-) But even with that, it was a positive experience overall to have a place to go that somehow seemingly respected the tinkerer and the learner (even if it charged 2X for lesser components that what I later learned you could get mail order -- the cost of having a storefront I guess). Nowadays, makerspaces and online forums may be filling that need more. It's too bad RS could not connect better to that, even though they tried some at the end with Arduino and Raspberry Pi.

      Sears faced the same sort of challenge tracking changing needs. With the history of the Sears mail order catalog, one might have expected that Sears should have dominated internet sales, but Sear's web presence was poor, and they lost that emerging space to Amazon. Likewise, one might have expected that, in theory, Radio Shack's online presence could have been what Make Magazine, AdaFruit, and so on became. Or why did RS not make something like the Raspberry Pi? Or the BeagleBone (which is from that group working with *Texas* Instruments)? So, some missed opportunities in leadership (in retrospect, which is easy to say with 20/20 hindsight).

      --
      A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
    4. Re:Goodbye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably the same thing they'll say about the economy 5 years from now.

    5. Re:Goodbye by anchovy_chekov · · Score: 3

      These are the comments I came to see.. the wistful memories from a time long gone by (not the harping about Obama, etc).

      I remember the day the dream died for me: walking into a store newly stocked with consumer goods and asking "Where are your ICs?". After a little confusion (and perhaps consultation with the old-beard I imagined locked up in the storeroom) I was directed to a small carousel containing LEDs and switches, but sadly not the ICs I was after.

      I walked away... never to return.

    6. Re:Goodbye by towermac · · Score: 2

      Stereos? Not anything of note for years now.

      In 1973 my parent's got a Clarinette 85. That stereo lasted forever. I'm still using the speakers. I gave away the receiver/8 track/phono to a poor lady in 1988, still working wonderfully. It was replaced by a 1988 Realistic, which I'm using now.

      That was a reason to go to Radio Shack. Why they got rid of their brands is beyond me.

    7. Re:Goodbye by VerdantHue · · Score: 1

      My earliest programming experience was on that little computer, with 4k of RAM onboard and a 16k expansion module.

      Good memories, ...

      Really?

    8. Re:Goodbye by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      I'm using "Optimus" branded RadioShack speakers as we speak, which are 20+ years old. They still work, and they're still the best speakers in the house. I have never personally been to Radioshack for anything more than cables, but the legend lives on...

    9. Re:Goodbye by RSanna · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Radio Shack was a revelation to this 12 year old in 1972. We live in a small rural town in Montana, USA. Once a month we would load up the car and go to the big city, POP +/-35,000, for groceries and other stuff. I noticed the new store, but only got to walk by the front window that first month. The parts I had to work with came from cast of TVs, radios and mail order catalogs. I saved every penny every day and dreamed ever night for the next month. Walking into that store was a pivotal moment in my life. There were so many components I knew, understood and well wanted to play with that I had never actually seen save in catalog drawing and white paper schematics. I aches my soul to know that something so visceral has been torn from the experience of today's youth. There is a vast difference between reading about something (web or catalog) and seeing touching and yes smelling it in person. R.I.P.

    10. Re:Goodbye by LaurenCates · · Score: 1

      While I agree your experience is a fond one, I think the idea of building things has been transformed for today's youth, in some ways for the better, and in some ways not.

      3D printers, for instance, are becoming more readily available. Makerspace and hackerspaces are popping up everywhere. Companies and products like Adafruit and Arduino are flourishing and common among people my age (30's) and younger.

      Granted, there is also the push by administrators for kids to learn to code (a Herculean exercise in futility, in my opinion). But there will be kids that this will benefit.

      Just because kids today aren't working with component-level electronics, it doesn't mean that the thing you experienced will never be experienced by anyone again.

      --
      Some people don't believe in fairies. I don't believe in The Patriarchy.
    11. Re:Goodbye by Mr.+Droopy+Drawers · · Score: 1

      Yes, indeed, really.

      The problem I'm having with my kids is that they have access to the Internet on pretty much anything electronic they care to have. They don't have a "want" to understand how it all works. It's a lot more complicated than the 4K RAM computer of old. Computer "guts" were accessible. One felt you could understand it all.

      When I was 15, I spent the summer understanding how the Western Digital Disk controller working in the TRS-80 Model I. I was fascinated that, with the disk drive plugged in, it booted to it. Without, it booted to the old BASIC ">" prompt.

      Both Zilog and Intel sent me rather large documentation on their chipsets in the TRS80; didn't even have to sign an NDA. I remember the horror of my mom watching the disassembler output spew out of that dot-matrix printer. "You'll pay for that box of paper AND that ribbon, YOU HEAR ME?".

      Learned all about Master Boot Records and even managed to write my own using Disk Wizard. Great times that my kids will never experience.

      --

      To Copy from One is Plagiarism; To Copy from Many is Research.

    12. Re:Goodbye by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That was a reason to go to Radio Shack. Why they got rid of their brands is beyond me.

      Because it got to be too expensive to produce notable electronics, which has come to require custom VLSI. Before they stopped selling stuff with their name on it, they had already switched over to simply rebranding products made by other companies, and not even making cases for them. They were always squarely at the rear of case design, so no great loss there. I'm pretty sure they got rid of their brands because they were a watchword for "cheap". Even the switchgear just felt cheaper than the competition, back when Pioneer and Sony used big sturdy metal knobs. Now, it's all cheap crap, but the last stuff that said Realistic (or "Optimus") on it was the same.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    13. Re:Goodbye by operagost · · Score: 1

      Some of their speakers were surprisingly good. I had two bookshelf speakers that had PLASTIC boxes, and they sounded great. They were left behind by one of my dad's tenants. They even had low enough sensitivity to work with the Pro Audio Spectrum card on my 486, which couldn't have had more than 2W of power (sound cards often had amplified outputs on them in the 90s). TIE Fighter sounded killer on those...

      --

      Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
    14. Re:Goodbye by D.McG. · · Score: 1

      Around 1990-92 (I was 10-12) I would walk after school to the mall where my mom worked. Waiting for her shift to end, I'd go to the nearby Radio Shack in the mall; where I developing a rapport with the girl on shift. One day she had Prince of Persian running on a Tandy 1000, and from that day on, for a few hours each day, she let me play Prince of Persia in the store. I played the whole game there, never having purchased it.

      Then I came across this recently and it brought back a lot of memories https://archive.org/details/ms... (Prince of Persia - DOS Box)

    15. Re:Goodbye by dywolf · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping, out of old loyalty and nostalgia, that they will come out of bankruptcy and reinventing their business focus, going back to being a geek supply store. But that will require creating a real and competent internet backend for components and tools like Mouser and Grainger have.

      I love Grainger for tools, because their internet stock search is fantastic, and you can then (usually) quickly pick it up in store, no shipping/waiting required. I love Mouser because of their absolutely huge selection of components, along with the technical and even engineering data provided right there on the product pages. More than a couple times I've been able to substitute or change components based on that info.

      If a vendor were to combine the two, I would be in heaven.

      --
      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    16. Re:Goodbye by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      The low-end Arduino models are the equivalent of what we used to have. The ATtiny and ATmega microcontrollers aren't that much different from the old 8-bit CPUs and the Arduino IDE will teach them to program in C, so your kids can still have great times. It's one thing to code something that happens on a screen, it's something else to be able to make things move, blink and interact with the real world.

      The best thing is, Arduino's are so cheap that you can buy one or more for each of your kid and they only need the Arduino IDE (Windows, OS X and Linux) and a USB cable. And for the "Blink" example, it uses the on-board LED so you don't even need to wire up anything to get your first "wow" moment. And Arduino shields makes it extremely easy to add features to the Arduino.

      For beginners, I'd recommend going with the Arduino Uno since the ATmega328P is socketed and you can replace it if your kids ever make a mistake and blow it up. It's cheaper and better for the environment than replacing the whole Arduino. If you ever need to buy another ATmega328P, either make sure you can write the bootloader to it or buy one with the bootloader already programmed.

      Have fun!

    17. Re:Goodbye by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      Our Radio Shack in West Milford NJ had an attached store - Computer Discount of NJ. Hardware, Software and the amazing thing - a software rental club. They were some great guys. I'm sure the idea was basically try-before-you-buy the software, but you could rent some of the games for $3 for 3 days or something like that...just enough time to get fed up or bored with them. Or let CopyIIPC deal with them :)

      I rented Winter Sports, got home and it wasn't in there. Went back and they didn't have it. We looked where we parked, and there laying in the snow-melt was the floppy. Took it home, dried it off real good with a hair dryer and amazingly it worked. Don't know for how long after!

    18. Re:Goodbye by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Sure. I remember writing a Pacman clone in the semigraphics mode (which anyone familiar the MC6847 VDG knows is incredibly limited). I started out using the built-in MS-BASIC graphics function (PUT and GET, as I recall), but they sucked so badly that I ended up re-implementing the moving graphics in PEEK and POKE, which sped things up a bit. I learned quite a bit about arrays, and replacing arrays with sticking everything directly into RAM so I could avoid the slower BASIC functions.

      The game worked well enough to show off, though gameplay sucked. But man, I learned a helluva lot about programming, and because the old BASIC interpreters sat so much closer to the bare metal, you got quite a feel for the underlying hardware.

      Probably the most valuable of my early programming projects was my BASIC-in-BASIC project. I was about 13 or 14, and had been coding for a year or two by that point. I got this crazy idea to create my own language, and wrote it in BASIC. I got the project to the point of having a program counter, variables, branching logic, simple arithmetic, and tokenization. I only had a dozen commands or so, basically reimplementations of PRINT, INPUT, GOTO, GOSUB, and a semi-working IF, but I could actually write a simple program that would ask for input of two numbers and add the two together, a jump to a line number based on whether the number was less than or greater than 10.

      --
      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    19. Re:Goodbye by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember "Heath Kits" from Radioshack? Shortwave radios, CB radios that you put together yourself with a soldering iron. My Grandpa and I spent many wonderful hours together putting together these kits. Now 50 years later I still use the skills I learned from those kits to make a living. From those kits I have a better understanding of "how things work" than most in IT. When wireless came about I already had knowledge of radios.

      Thank you Radioshack for all the knowledge and the times with Grandpa you gave me.

      and yes smelling it in person
      Yea I remember those smells :)

  5. The Canadian arm of the business is stil operation by Meshach · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Several years ago they were bought by Bell and re-branded as The Source. They still operate in Canada.

    I wonder why they were able to survive in Canada and not in the US?

    --
    "Maybe this world is another planet's hell"
    Aldous Huxley
  6. Yup by sootman · · Score: 1

    I was just in a clearance store today. Got a couple LED ornaments, and some t-shirts for $1.50 each.

    --
    Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
    1. Re:Yup by anchovy_chekov · · Score: 3, Funny

      No-one cares AC. Your pointless troll will disappear like mist on the side of a mountain. But sootman will still have his bargain T-Shirts and LEDs.

    2. Re:Yup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, good point. When I think about it now, I certainly would have enjoyed squirreling some of that cheap junk at clearance day as well. A crusty troll post doesn't warm as much.

  7. Unsurprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given their crappy brands, such as "Archer" with terrible quality and that unmistakable Philco feel and design to them (not to mention their insanely high prices) I wonder how this did not happen years ago...

  8. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked there for about 3 years, up until about a decade ago. It was right at the turning point of going from a parts store to CellphoneShack. The first color screen phones and then first camera phones were just coming out, and everything was SELL SELL CELL PHONES!

    Every 12-18 months or so I have had dreams that I had taken a second job working there again.. I always woke up considering them nightmares. Maybe those will stop now.

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LMAO, loser.

      When you are diagnosed with anal cancer, your laughing will cease.

    2. Re:Good by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Easy AC... The dreams/nightmares do fade over time, but never really go away. I'm sorry, but I'm afraid we are all scarred for life...

      --
      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    3. Re: Good by MSJos · · Score: 0

      Speaking as someone who lost a few family members as a result of cancer, I wonder how you'll feel if that were to really happen to you.

      I would not make fun of it, and I hope it won't happen to you, because it would be a miserable way to die.

  9. One less cellphone shop I guess by colin_faber · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I stopped shopping there long ago because they stopped stocking anything useful. I don't need a cellphone from them, I needed parts, which they no longer carry.

    1. Re:One less cellphone shop I guess by N7DR · · Score: 3, Informative

      I stopped shopping there long ago because they stopped stocking anything useful. I don't need a cellphone from them, I needed parts, which they no longer carry.

      Some stores no longer carry parts, and some carry a reduced inventory. But some stores still carry a decent supply of components ans similar small, useful items. We have two Radio Shack stores in the closest city; one is essentially useless and simply directs me to the other store (but I frequently try it anyway, since it's the closer of the two). The other one isn't half bad, and almost always has what I need. I shall certainly miss it if it goes away.

    2. Re:One less cellphone shop I guess by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      This has been long in coming. They probably shouldn't have changed their official motto to "You've got questions, we've got blank stares."

      --
      Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
    3. Re:One less cellphone shop I guess by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      That and the sales staff really seemed to go downhill.

      True story: needed an S-Video cable a few years ago, so I popped in, and asked what they had. They had one for, IIRC, $25. I... double taked, and asked if they had a lower cost cable.

      I was told they don't stock lower cost S-Video cables because "those cheap ones" kept bursting into flames.

      I pressed the issue.

      Sales person kept with story, despite my obvious disbelief.

      (Of course, someone will now tell me that the TFA reports that the major hit for Radio Shack that ultimately caused its bankruptcy was that giant class action suit about the $10 S-Video cables that kept catching fire...)

      --
      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
    4. Re:One less cellphone shop I guess by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Ours has a whole section with lots of drawers of resistors, transistors, 555 timers and other miscellaneous silicon. They've also got tons of electronics kits, irons, tips, solder, wire strippers, etc.

      You could easily walk in there with no electronic equipment/parts and walk out with everything needed to build "something" from bare parts, or buy a kit or a raspberry pi (!).

      It's super close to an existing Sprint store, so I'll be sad to see it close down :(

      Sam

  10. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by Pope+Hagbard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Different management team.

  11. I'll take an old computer, please by msk · · Score: 1

    I wonder if they have a Model 4p hiding in back. . . . .

    1. Re:I'll take an old computer, please by idontgno · · Score: 1

      Radio Shack used to have a huge distribution center and "outlet store" in the Hagerstown, MD area where I was living about 20 years ago. I'd pick up all kinds of out-of-date stuff they must have gathered from back store rooms of Radio Shacks across the country.

      I guess the distribution center is still there. I wonder if they'll turn it into the Mother of All Clearance Centers?

      --
      Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
    2. Re:I'll take an old computer, please by idontgno · · Score: 1

      Replying to myself because I couldn't be troubled to read my google search returns before hitting "Submit" on my last comment.

      The Distribution Center is toast.

      I still have fond memories of the Radio-Shack-that-was, and that place is a part of them. "4 cubic feet of random parts for $25? I'll take 4!"

      Brand new TEAC FD-55 360k floppy disk drives (originally intended for Tandy 1000 family systems)? Worked great with my TRS-80 and my old CP/M system, and a steal at $20 each.

      --
      Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
    3. Re:I'll take an old computer, please by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One of my first jobs was getting on a old Model 16 that had been upgraded to a Model 6000 (a whopping 1mb of RAM), with two 20mb hard drives, and five or six dumb terminals. We actually used the Radio Shack multi-user accounting software and worked on multi-department accounting. Did the job nicely, actually, and it's how I got my training as a sysadmin/bookkeeper/manager. I inherited the beast when the company closed down and I monkeyed around with it for a while; got a Usenet and email feed going via UUCP. In the end the 8" floppy drive crapped out, so I gave it to a friend of mine who got things up and running again and had a private BBS running for a few years.

      Tandy made some reasonably decent hardware. The 16/6000 was quite a machine: M68000 processor, Z80 coprocessor that could run CP/M, but under Xenix basically took care of all the I/O.

      I also had an MC10 a CoCo, CoCo 2 and a CoCo 3 (though I never upgraded the latter to 512k). Played around a lot in OS/2 and wrote an accounting program in BASIC-09 (which was a dialect that felt like a mix of BASIC, Pascal and COBOL). But in the end the PC one the computer wars, I went out and bought a 486, switched between Linux and Windows 3.1, and my old equipment finally got chucked during my last move about eight years ago.

      --
      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    4. Re:I'll take an old computer, please by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Dude... Think how cool a brand new TRS-80 would be, complete with the tape recorder.... Or one of those computers with the 8 inch floppy drives... Oh the memories/nightmares!

      --
      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    5. Re:I'll take an old computer, please by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

      After getting laid off from a large defense contractor in San Diego in 1986, a friend who managed one of the local Radio Shack stores turned me on to an opening at the local Radio Shack Computer Center, which did repairs of Radio Shack's TRS80 computers. Since I was a component-level electronics tech for 5 years with the defense contractor, it was a pretty easy "slide" over to working on the -then new- personal computers. I worked there for about a year, when the guy who quit, which created the job opening that I filled, decided he wanted to come back, and since he and the district manager were butt-buddies, I got shown the door. But that got me moved over to what I did for the rest of my working career, namely "computer janitor", cleaning up after Windows 3.11 up to Windows 7... So I'm kinda ambivalent about Radio Shark... err Shack going the way of the dodo...

      --
      THANK YOU, Edward Snowden!! Americans owe you a debt of gratitude (whether they know it or not..)
  12. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by TFlan91 · · Score: 1

    I imagine because it costs more for Amazon to ship across borders, thus not stealing so much of the market share.

    I do not know what The Source (They really called it that?) actually sells, but if it's the same as RS, then I bet they are looking at this with caution.

  13. ...and nothing of value was lost... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...except perhaps some kids' part time retail jobs.

    Seriously, Radio Shack died a long time ago. Thankfully we now have alternatives for small-order electronic components, like Farnell/element14 and RS components.

    1. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by ChipMonk · · Score: 1

      Nothing against Farnell/e14/RS, but sometimes it's nice to be able to talk to a person, face to face, when an issue arises. You can take the item back to the store, discuss the issue, look the item over, look each other in the eye, and reach a conclusion as to how to proceed. A phone call, or email, lacks that kind of personal contact. Given the choice between a store and mail order, I'll choose the store whenever I can.

    2. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      It's still way cheaper on eBay. Arduino Pro mini on element14? Almost 15$ without shipping. Same thing from dozens of sellers on eBay? Under 3$ shipping included.

      I paid under 14$ for an Arduino 2560 R3 (again, shipping included). The same thing costs 46$CAD from canada.newark.com (Element 14) without shipping.

    3. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're absolutely right.

      We have Jaycar here in Australia, and a handful of independent stores, but they're usually quite expensive compared to the online option (sometimes by an order of magnitude!), and physically few and far in between. So while the tangible aspect can still be had, it quickly becomes hard to justify in terms of cost and inconvenience, which you rightly suggest is a damn shame.

    4. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by harrkev · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In all fairness, when you get an Arduino from Radio Shack, you are getting a REAL Arduino, and some money goes to support the project. When you buy from China, you are getting a clone and, while it works, the Arduino project (that makes the software) gets not a penny. I am not against clones, but I like to buy an original every now and then to help support the project.

      Or, you could buy a clone and donate $5 to the project to help support development.

      --
      "-1 Troll" is the apparently the same as "-1 I disagree with you."
    5. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck getting any sort of support or warranty from a "Wun Hung Low" eBay/Aliexpress/Taobao seller though, not to mention the risk of getting fake shit.

    6. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Or, you could buy a clone and donate $5 to the project to help support development.

      Once you take the shipping cost into account (and duty fees and brokerage fees if you make the mistake of ordering in the USA from Canada), I'd still be way ahead even if I donated 20$.

    7. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Once you take the shipping cost into account (and duty fees and brokerage fees if you make the mistake of ordering in the USA from Canada), I'd still be way ahead even if I donated 20$.

      But did you? Be honest.

    8. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      I said "if I donated". :p

      I'd rather help by working on a library or something, the value would be worth much more than 20$.

    9. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Getting fake shit seems pretty unlikely because the board still has to be programmed, work with the same shields and all, etc. The most important thing for most eBay sellers is their rating, they wouldn't risk it.

      Besides, we're not talking about "brand name" clothes or purses here.

      As for support, most sellers don't offer support and write that fact in the auction listing. But a few of them offer some support via their Website. As an example, Geeetech has a wiki and forums on their website.

      But since the Arduino is open source (and open hardware?) even the clones have to work like the official ones, which means you can usually find help in the regular forums and chat rooms.

    10. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by gmiller123456 · · Score: 1

      The main reason so many people support the Arduino project is because it is open, and anyone can make clones. Fortunately, they don't seem to be complaining, and trying to steer people away from clones. But that's what happened with the MakerBot. Bre Pettis capitalized on a lot of people's work promoting his platform under the assumption that it was open, and always would be. Then Bre started complaining when people actually started making clones, and closed everything up. I hope that never happens to the Arduino, but history tells me it eventually will.

    11. Re:...and nothing of value was lost... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      I hope that never happens to the Arduino, but history tells me it eventually will.

      The real value in Arduino is the community and the compatibility. If they try to go after the clones they'll be cutting a lot of users. Besides, I think they even have "make your own arduino on a protoboard" tutorials, so even clones are more expensive than that.

      The one company who must be happy about all this is Atmel. I barely see people talking about Microchips' PIC series anymore.

  14. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They were bought by Bell? That's probably the only reason they're still alive. I have no idea why, either, because any time I've ever gone into a Source store, all of the stuff they were selling was more expensive than a Best Buy about a five minute walk away.

  15. Re:they probably still want your name, address, an by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am so happy this happened! The radio shack here is a waste of space. The employees are stupid and the items are marked way too high. I can get wires online for a fraction. 50cents online = 25$ in radio shack. FUCK EM. THEY DESERVED THIS SHIT

  16. Lance Armstrong doping affair fallout? by SMOKEING · · Score: 1

    That deal with Lance Armstrong was probably not the smartest idea.

  17. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Several years ago they were bought by Bell and re-branded as The Source. They still operate in Canada.

    I wonder why they were able to survive in Canada and not in the US?

    The Source is hardly the Radio Shack we remember from the good years.

  18. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by sjames · · Score: 4, Funny

    A management team capable of eating a salad without stabbing themselves in the eye?

  19. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Indeed. Often, the failure of companies is simply due to bad management or sometimes cooking the books.

  20. I predicted this 30 years ago by eclectro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw this day coming after I worked there for a period. Treating their employees poorly was part of their business plan. I am surprised that it took so long though. Kornfield isn't around to see this, but he must have seen it on the horizon as well.

    --
    Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
    1. Re:I predicted this 30 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone saw this coming as soon as they walked into an Incredible Universe for the first time. But hey, at least Fry's had a lot of ideal real estate to buy at bargain basement prices after they shut em down. Ironically, the Fry's business model is basically exactly what Incredible Universe should have been and probably played a bigger role in Radioshack's demise than the internet.

    2. Re:I predicted this 30 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      30 years is a bit ambitious; but not too far off the mark. Their whole existence was a monument to inertia.

      I wonder when we'll finally nail the coffin shut on Sears and K-mart (now owned by the same company). Some of their stores remind me of what shopping must have been like in the USSR (OK, USSR on a really good day maybe). You walk in and things aren't stocked right, or they have things like a garden department full of dying plants because nobody waters them. When you get to check-out it takes way too long because they ask you 4 or 5 different questions before they take your money. Your receipt is a stack of coupons for stuff you don't need.

    3. Re:I predicted this 30 years ago by houghi · · Score: 1

      If you predicted it 30 years ago and it happened now, it is not really a prediction, unless you stated the date.

      I can predict that it will rain, but when I don't say when, it is not really a prediction if it rains after 30 months. I then don't have the right to say : I told you so or I predicted this would happen.

      --
      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
    4. Re:I predicted this 30 years ago by eclectro · · Score: 1

      They were able to stay in business longer because of cell phones, which hit a peak in the nineties. In fact, their stores that will stay open will be owned by a cell phone carrier and branded as such.

      No matter what, they were myopic to their original business model and their employees. Otherwise, they could have been a Digikey or Mouser when it came to components. But I did know that this day was inevitable, if not predicted.

      --
      Take the cheese to sickbay, the doctor should see it as soon as possible - B'Elanna Torres, "Learning Curve"
  21. Like Dick Smiths & Tandy in Aus by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

    They stopped carrying what their original customer base wanted. Tandy disappeared, Dick Smiths has got even worse and I don't know how they are still going.

    But then JayCar came along. Picked up all of their old customer base and have been making a killing ever since. Jaycar's buzz line is "Better. More Technical" you can go in there an they have bins of components - Love that shop - http://www.jaycar.com.au/

    1. Re:Like Dick Smiths & Tandy in Aus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Jaycar also surfaced in NZ some time ago too, always enjoyed going in there to see what cool stuff they had.

    2. Re:Like Dick Smiths & Tandy in Aus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dick Smiths has got even worse and I don't know how they are still going.

      They appear to be repositioning themselves as a competitor to places like JB Hifi. I did a lot of shopping around when I bought my PS4, and Dick Smith surprisingly came in with the best deal by about $30 or so, for the exact same bundle that JB and EBGames were offering. An interesting tactic!

    3. Re:Like Dick Smiths & Tandy in Aus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose we should be grateful that maplins in the UK still sells components. But not all the ones I need! So I have to go online to rs-online, farnell, digikey, mouser, proto-pic, modmypi, coolcomponents... i suppose that is not so bad but I hate waiting until tomorrow for the parts to turn up!

    4. Re:Like Dick Smiths & Tandy in Aus by certsoft · · Score: 1

      It's been a long time since I was in a Dick Smiths but it sure reminded me of Radio Shack. Went to a JayCar near Christchurch a few years ago and was impressed.

    5. Re:Like Dick Smiths & Tandy in Aus by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      yeah, i've been greatful for maplin getting me out of a bind several times, but the high prices and crap selection mean that the vast majority of my component purchasing (both personal and work) happens online.

      --
      note: i'm known as plugwash most places but i screwd up registering that here somehow in the past and now can't register
  22. Re:they probably still want your name, address, an by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

    And I suppose monoprice.com are greedy for selling me a 2 dollars cable when the same one only cost 50 cents on eBay shipping included?

    Monoprice, however, sent me six replacement cables for free (including shipping) when I emailed them that the five I bought had failed in the last three years.

  23. What if they'd stuck with it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I wonder what would've happened if they'd stuck with their original purpose of being an electronics hobbyist store? With the Raspberry Pi and the Arduino (etc), it seems like the number of electronics hobbyists has gone up quite a bit over the past few years. The problem is that by the time it's started catching on again, Radioshack had already largely abandoned that demographic.

    They managed to make themselves irrelevant even while they should've been becoming relevant again. It's a shame.

    1. Re:What if they'd stuck with it? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      They would have fallen to the Internet, instead of to Best Buy, Walmart and the like. There was a time when Radio Shack's distribution system was second to none. I was up in Canada, and I could literally order, say, RAM expansion for an old Model 4 from a dealer down in New Orleans.

      But between Amazon, eBay, and all the suppliers who sell directly online, Radio Shack could not have competed there either. The Internet is killing a lot of the traditional retailers like Radio Shack and Sears, and what the Internet isn't killing Walmart is.

      --
      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    2. Re:What if they'd stuck with it? by NormalVisual · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The Internet is killing a lot of the traditional retailers like Radio Shack and Sears

      IMO Sears is doing more to kill Sears than the Internet is. When you order an item that costs several hundred dollars, and not only does it not get shipped to the store for pickup but no one even follows up on the order, you can't expect to keep very many customers.

      --
      Please stand clear of the doors, por favor mantenganse alejado de las puertas
    3. Re:What if they'd stuck with it? by guacamole · · Score: 1

      They could have survived as a hobbyist store, but it would have been a small chain. Perhaps one radio shack store for a city of million. The way it was now, there is a radio shack at nearly every grocery store, shopping strip, and mall.

    4. Re:What if they'd stuck with it? by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

      Sears and Kmart have been shooting themselves in the head for decades, particularly in IT related things.

      in 2001, Baseline Magazine did a superb review of the KMart IT called "How Kmart Fell Behind" It still exists on Google cache. Reading that, it is clear the company was hopelessly lost even then and had no hope of ever recovering.

      In the battle between Walmart and KMart, Walmart won but most people see only low prices and stores everywhere. But the real secret was in the IT behind Walmart. They embraced IT, leveraged it in every possible way, supported it, endorsed it, and updated it relentlessly to manage inventory and operations in a true model of efficiency. At the same time, KMart, did almost nothing. IT didn't matter to them. They didn't understand it, didn't get it, didn't use it. Had no inventory control, literally had no idea what was in each store. "But unless management pays attention, the data is worthless. "Because they didn't believe the system, they had trucks, and trucks, and trucks of inventory just sitting there.""

      That Baseline article is like a obit written before the person dies. It's all there except the date of death.

      --
      Sig for hire.
  24. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    If you're lucky enough to live in a town big enough to have a Best Buy or similar stores in the first place. The Source, however, is everywhere.

  25. You younglings don't get it! by the_skywise · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Before cell phones, before the internet, before computers... heck before REMOTE CONTROLS FOR YOUR TEEVEE!

    Radio Shack was THE place for geeks to hang out. Kinda like a micro-Fry's in every mall. My dad swore by the Realistic stereos (I never did but when the only other alternatives at the time were Sears or JCPenney's for stereo receivers... They held up pretty well.) I cut my teeth on a TRS-80 Model 1 (Of course I promptly pooh-poohed it for the TRS-80 Model II because it's still true that geeks don't handle obsolescence well! Christmas was asking for the 150 electronics project kits or other gadgets.

    Sure, it sucks now and we don't seem to live in a time where people play with electronics or chemistry sets anymore but a time where people are content to watch what the kardashians are up to and re-tweeting it on their phones because, gosh darn it, math is hard.

    And now I watch as Radio Shack sells off to the Undying Lands. It's better this way anyway, it was a lousy cell phone store and the last time I went in there to buy a pair of speaker stands, to match the set I had purchased in that store 5 years earlier, I was told by the new kid manager that they don't have *and never sold* speaker stands.

    yah... Fare thee well...

    NOW GET OFFA MY LAWN!!!!

    1. Re:You younglings don't get it! by Nethead · · Score: 1

      I'll be burning my last battery card in protest.

      Ah, the first laptop, the Trash-100.

      --
      -- I have a private email server in my basement.
    2. Re:You younglings don't get it! by LVSlushdat · · Score: 2

      I have a "Realistic" 7 transistor radio my dad bought from the original Radio Shack store in Boston by mail order, around 1957-58. Its case is red leather with a large tuning dial and a smaller volume dial and a metal plaque that says "Realistic". It ran on a -now-obsolete- cylindrical 9 volt battery, since been modded to work with the current rectangular 9 volt batteries.. Darn thing still works, although the case is kind of beat up. I'm pretty sure he paid over $100 for it, although I was only 7-8 at the time...

      GET OFF MY LAWN YOU KIDS!!!

      --
      THANK YOU, Edward Snowden!! Americans owe you a debt of gratitude (whether they know it or not..)
    3. Re:You younglings don't get it! by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

      Ah, the first laptop, the Trash-100.

      I still have one.. Last time I checked it still worked.. Its one of the 8K of ram versions. Paid $795 for it in 1985. Guess it should be in a museum somewhere....

      --
      THANK YOU, Edward Snowden!! Americans owe you a debt of gratitude (whether they know it or not..)
    4. Re:You younglings don't get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      When I was a kid, the Radio Shack in my town still had a tube tester (pretty rarely used at that point though). I'm pretty sure they had a small stock of tubes as well. It was a pretty cool retro looking thing that I'd always stare at and my dad would reminisce about the "good" old days of tube amplifiers.

    5. Re:You younglings don't get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're lucky enough to have one of these around, check out Microcenter. The nearest one to me is 5 hours away, but I still dropped in and shocked the hell out of the sales staff at checkout.

    6. Re:You younglings don't get it! by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Yep. In the days before Fry's, the Shack was the place to go for components.

      Then they decided to become Best-Buy-wannabees.

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    7. Re:You younglings don't get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still have one of these as well. I also have most of the other TRS-80 branded computers from the model 1 through the 4p, all three of the CoCo models and the MC-10 and most of the pocket computers they sold. I think the last computer I had actually bought from a radio shack was a Tandy-1000. Great memories. Kinda sad to see an old friend die, but like somebody else mentioned, the Radio Shack I knew died a long time ago.

    8. Re:You younglings don't get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sure it wasn't a Model III rather than a Model II? The Model II was really really expensive and meant for businesses, not hobbyists. It had 8-inch floppies and an optional hard drive that cost as much as a car.

      The 150-in-one project kit was probably the best Christmas gift I ever got.

  26. verizon may buy half the stores by peter303 · · Score: 1

    the rest will be unleased or sold to others

  27. maker-places could replace some of this by peter303 · · Score: 1

    I think I've seen a few around. Especially if some of them get into Raspberries or the equivalent.

    1. Re:maker-places could replace some of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh yes, "maker-places" for idiots who think buying a prefabbed ARM device makes them cool. As for those of us that built from those delightful little breadboards, your kind are inbred chumps. Idiots that rely on some other suckling teat to survive.

  28. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by bobbied · · Score: 0

    Different management team.

    Nail on the head... Whish I had mod points today..

    --
    "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
  29. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, A one eyed manager in a kingdom of blind managers is CEO.

  30. Free Battery Every Month by koelpien · · Score: 1

    The long slide started when they stopped passing out those "Get A Free Battery Every Month" cards. To add insult to injury, you couldn't even buy batteries one-at-a-time anymore!

  31. But...but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whose going to honor my extended warranties?

    .

  32. We still have Maplin in the UK by hack++slash · · Score: 1

    Although the prices are way OTT to buy from on a regular basis they can be useful when you need something fast. I went into my local one (a mere 9 miles away in a nearby city) just before christmas and had to leave after a few minutes because the half a dozen AC fans in the high ceiling severely affected my tinnitus :(

    We used to have Tandy stores that carried Radioshack stock but they were all bought by Carphone Warehouse in 1999 and now they only exist as an online store.

    --
    To do something right, you often have to roll up your sleeves and get busy.
  33. Never treated their employees particularly well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I worked there while I was in College in Buffalo in the Early '90's. I was going to school for my degree in Electrical Engineering, so I always used to get stuck talking to the folks looking for parts. I also used to piss the full timers off by selling the most computers in the store though.

    They used to try to get us to attend Saturday Morning Sales Meetings and occasional District Sales Meetings without paying us. They also shafted the Store Managers on pay for overtime (they got sued for this).

    The thing they did that really ticked me off was cut our commission rate at Christmas "because they advertise more during the 'Golden Quarter' ". More like a golden shower......

  34. Re:they probably still want your name, address, an by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the fuck cares about monoprice. We are here to bash the losers who just went bankrupt. Nobody cares about your hand job service from monoprice.

    Guess you better hope your paycheck is paid by one of the few vendors who can afford to pimp the cheapest prices on the 'net with that attitude, because otherwise nobody is gonna care about you fucking high-priced losers in the unemployment line.

  35. And Thus Another Onion Article Comes to Pass . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And thus another Onion article turns from exaggeration, to plausibility, to truth:

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/even-ceo-cant-figure-out-how-radioshack-still-in-b,2190/

  36. A shame. Arduino kits and a better parts selection by dpbsmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A shame. I was just starting to think it was making a modest return to its roots.

    When I visited one a few months ago, they had quite a decent little display of Makershed Arduino kits and books about the Arduino, and they had a kind of dense metal cabinet with shallow drawers filled with individual parts, a much larger selection than they used to have hanging on pegs in blister packs.

    I needed a new soldering iron and I bought one there.

  37. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's also the only one left. We managers eat each other, you know. The fittest survive, the rest are Soylent Green.

  38. Better idea: Frys by BenJeremy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Frys or Microcenter, or even NewEgg.

    Prime thing, though, they need to offer a small selection of electronics.

    RadioShack dabbled in Enthusiast PC hardware, but gave up on it. I found them to be fairly priced for getting stuff I needed "now"

    The business model needs to change, but RS was unwilling to be more than just another wireless retailer with a few toys and electronics added in the mix. If you have a B&M footprint, you have to give consumers a reason to come in. Providing goods that people usually can't wait for 3 days to get, or offering some sort of technical training for all the new tech, as well as easier returns (or pickup) for mail order goods is a start.

    Maybe a "tech of the month" display to show people what they won't see at Best Buy or Walmart, but can order through a kiosk on site after checking it out. Many consumers still like the personal treatment when buying big ticket items, but they don't like paying a premium, or dealing with clueless stockers when they have a question.

    1. Re:Better idea: Frys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Fry's? Ha ha, they're in financial trouble, too. Only they're not being stupid about it. Distributors don't want to give them merchandise on credit these days, so a lot of the stuff on the shelves Fry's has already paid for. And if you've been in one lately, you'll probably notice a lot of shelves are now filled with cheap crap from China... low overhead, high profit, and best of all, keeps the place from looking empty.

    2. Re:Better idea: Frys by rfengr · · Score: 1

      Microcenter has plenty of RPi, Arduino, maker shit, etc.. Micro Center stores are located in metro areas with >2M population. Microcenter doesn't sell those items for shit, even in a market that large. At best they may sell a $40 dev board per day, if even that. No way a rebranded RS could stay in business.

  39. Been a long time coming by kencurry · · Score: 2

    Many years ago (like late 70's, early 80's) Radio shack was a place you could walk into, browse electronic components, and talk to and meet knowledgeable people to help with home brew projects. Then they expanded like hell, employed stupid corporate business policies like charging people to pay for store catalogs, ridiculous "i need all your personal info" so I can sell you a resistor, etc.

    Haven't been in one of their stores in probably 20 years, surprised that it took that long for them to fail. In retrospect, they were so poorly managed, they weren't even good at failure.

    Good riddance (and yes, I'm still pissed about the time you assholes tried to charge me money to send me a catalog of your stuff!!)

    --
    sigs are for losers (except to point out that sigs are for losers)
    1. Re:Been a long time coming by Fnord666 · · Score: 1

      Then they expanded like hell, employed stupid corporate business policies like charging people to pay for store catalogs, ridiculous "i need all your personal info" so I can sell you a resistor, etc.

      I remember this shift well. Our local store manager understood though. As soon as you gave him a WTF look he would reply with "Right. Kris Kringle it is then."

      --
      'The tyrant will always find pretext for his tyranny.' - Aesop's Fables
  40. From the Self-fulfilling commercials department... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta say it. ... ...

    Looks like the 80's got their store back.

  41. You can use "Shack" w/o getting sued now! by Jumunquo · · Score: 1

    Radio Shack has historically aggressively sued anyone who uses "Shack" in their name, incl. AutoZone, which used to be Auto Shack. Most companies don't want to spend the money to fight them and just change their name.

  42. Place to hang out? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not part of your "younglings" target audience, but I never recall Rat Shack being a place to hang out. In fact, the only people who "hung out" at the stores where I grew up, worked there, and got pretty darn annoyed by kids browsing and not buying anything within the first five minutes. I might go there to pick up the latest copy of Police Call, look at the radios, and maybe get a Mims notebook or two. No, what you describe sounds like an independent electronics shop where "Can I help you find something?" was not code for "Buy something now or leave, so I can go back to talking dirty about the perfume kiosk girl around the corner."

  43. Big Surprise by NoKaOi · · Score: 1

    Remember when Radio Shack was place to go for electronics hobby stuff and electronics components? Now (or guess yesterday) the few electronic components they have are 10x the price of Jameco, Digikey, Mouser etc, and they hardly ever have what you need anyway. They were doomed as soon as they jumped the shark into being primarily a cell phone store, and jacked up the prices on everything else. It was only a matter of time and it's amazing they sold enough cell phone plans to last as long as they did.

  44. Overseas stores by jrumney · · Score: 1

    The company's franchise locations, as well as stores in Mexico and Asia, are not included in the deal.

    I get that the overseas stores are not included in the sale to Sprint, because that would make absolutely no sense, but what I really want to know is what happens to them when Radio Shack goes bankrupt. In other words, I want to know if my local Radio Shack located inside a Borders store (I kid you not) will still be open.

    1. Re:Overseas stores by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      I want to know how your Borders is still open. Then I discovered that you are in Malaysia, so I have a different question. You have a circuit City or Hechinger do you?

    2. Re:Overseas stores by jrumney · · Score: 1

      Only Borders and Radio Shack have come to Malaysia for their retirement as far as I'm aware. Radio Shack only started appearing around the time of the Borders collapse, so I guess the holding company for both has decided to specialize in deals with ailing US companies looking at overseas expansion as a way to save their business. But unlike Singapore, where Borders closed down a couple of months after the US, they've managed to separate it out enough from the parent company to end up with a known brand that they can continue to run independently. A newspaper article yesterday said that the local Radio Shacks have their own supply chains and won't be affected by the US collapse, so they may also last well beyond their US parent.

  45. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    I imagine because it costs more for Amazon to ship across borders, thus not stealing so much of the market share.

    I don't see how that would be an issue, given that Amazon Canada has its own presence.

    --
    If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
  46. Re:they probably still want your name, address, an by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You still have to work? LMAO LOOOOSER

  47. I shouldn't feel this.. by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

    ..but I feel a twinge of nostalgia on hearing this. I cobbled more than a few hi-fi experiments using parts sourced from rat shack in the 80's.

    Still have an Archer SWR meter. And a Micronta multimeter I strongly suspect is a Fluke in a different dress.

    Oh well. Fare the well, Rat Shack.. you failed at adapting to a world without buggy whips.

    --
    The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
    1. Re:I shouldn't feel this.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still have a 20+ year old Micronta Digital Multimeter. Amazing thing, actually. Much cheaper than my Flukes, just as accurate. Has survived the past decade in a variety of boats. Still going strong.

  48. Its their own stupid fault... by jonwil · · Score: 0

    RadioShack knew a few years ago that they needed to change but they continued to sell crap no-one wanted to buy from them like crappy cellphone plans and overpriced junk. That and the whole "we need your entire life story and all your personal details before we can sell you that pack of AA batteries" BS.

    If they had acted sooner, dropped the crap people didn't want like the cellphone plans and anything else that they couldn't get people to buy, dropped the personal data harvesting and maybe introduced some new product lines that people might actually go to RadioShack to buy, they could have saved the business.

  49. Good-by old friend by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    While you changed through the years I still remember going to Radio Shack for my vacuum tubes, or getting the parts and board to build electronics projects.

  50. Re: 4k by transporter_ii · · Score: 2

    I remember typing in page after page of some game programmed in basic, as found in some magazine, and then running out of memory with just a half a page left.

    --
    Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, religion destroys spirituality
  51. RS to Sprint by rfengr · · Score: 1

    Imagine being a RS employee finding out your new boss is Sprint. Fuck! I'd slit the first wrist from RS I'd slit the other from Sprint.

  52. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Informative

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  53. Clicks vs Bricks by bugs2squash · · Score: 2

    Radioshack squandered every advantage. There was nothing that would have stopped them creating an online business that really leveraged and complemented their highstreet presence and distribution network. But the management team apparently chose to plunder rather than innovate

    Really, how much would it have taken to recognize 5 years ago that they could allow someone to order their choice from a wide range of items before noon and pick it up in-store after 5pm same day, next day for more exotic items that had to come from an out-of-area warehouse. Not only would that be a faster way to order things, but would be a much better way to offer a returns policy and give a chance to sell cables and other accessories.

    For the geeky well endowed, could they really not have offered 3d printed parts on a similar delivery schedule (or even in-store) or small scale manufactured parts. Could they not have had a travelling maker demo that moved from store to store every Saturday hawking maker slide or raspberry pis or some such things.

    For the less geeky at heart could they not have let people order in-store as they consult with someone who can guide them - Amazon would sure get a lot more business out of my parents if they somehow improved their comfort levels with buying online.

    It's not like they would have had to stop selling cell phones if they didn't want to.

    --
    Nullius in verba
    1. Re:Clicks vs Bricks by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      If those are ideas that would've saved radio shack, then they're still good ideas after radio shack is gone...

      --
      Can you be Even More Awesome?!
    2. Re:Clicks vs Bricks by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Really, how much would it have taken to recognize 5 years ago that they could allow someone to order their choice from a wide range of items before noon and pick it up in-store after 5pm same day

      A huge assortment of stock in every store just in case some oddball wanted some odd thing from the catalog and had to have it that day. (Or a central warehouse (big $$$ in infrastructure) as well as drivers and delivery vehicles.) It's not a very tenable business model, there's a reason why every click-and-mortar retailer of which I'm aware limits same pickup to items in stock.
       

      For the geeky well endowed, could they really not have offered 3d printed parts on a similar delivery schedule (or even in-store) or small scale manufactured parts.

      No, not really. The same reasons above apply here too.

    3. Re:Clicks vs Bricks by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

      Well then make it next day pickup from your first or second choice of the regional stores. But even if they were just a caching front end to pololu, adafruit, sparkfun, batchpcb and digikey with a few small warehouses with 3d printers and cnc cutters per state they could have offered a wide selection of parts and services alongside all the other things they did. If I buy a few parts from each of adafruit, sparkfun et al even ground shipping quickly adds up to more than the cost of the parts themselves and I'll bet some of those hobby suppliers would have been amenable to merchandising a network of warehouses that they too could ship from around the US.

      Didn't RadioShack already maintain warehouses to service the retail franchisees ? I'm sure one or two of the larger retail locations could have doubled as warehouses, these are small components, not large wild beasts and moving them to the warehouse frees up retail space in the other stores. My point being, once you already have a high-street retail presence and a logistics setup to handle distribution then they may have well found something to do with it.

      --
      Nullius in verba
    4. Re:Clicks vs Bricks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thinking about it... there's still room for a REAL Radio Shack... combining all the things that hackers need and want in one place that is around the corner is a great idea. Having your pick of over 1000 locations across the US is a golden opportunity too - as most of the places are up for grabs as corporate sells them off.

      What it takes is the right management team with the right presentation. You CAN compete on both fronts - online and retail by having the right products that everyone wants. While Rad Shack (or Rat Shack depending on who you talk to) didn't get the formula right, there's still a lot going for this. Even joe blow is going to need something sometime and wants it NOW, not 2 days from now (Amazon Prime). If the local source has it, it's a good bet he'll be there to get it.

      So what is IT that the average potential customer wants?

      A one stop shop for all electronics needs. Take what Fry's has and select the better items to fit strip-mall sized store. The rest should be online orderable and deliverable either to your door or in store within 2 days (to compete with Amazon). The range needs to include economy cheap to a few top end items. Offer cell phones from contract plans from major carriers down through prepaid cheap. Offer a lot of hacking gear too - think Raspberry Pis and the like..

      Economy-wise, the under performing stores would be an advertising front for the online business whereas the online business would help support them indirectly.

      this is a formula that is very sound, it's just that Rad Shack didn't do it right..

    5. Re:Clicks vs Bricks by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      If I buy a few parts from each of adafruit, sparkfun et al even ground shipping quickly adds up to more than the cost of the parts themselves

      And just who do you think is going to pay the cost of shipping the parts from SparkFun to your local Radio Shack? (Hint, it's not going to be SparkFun or Radio Shack.) Shipping and handling is a minor component of the cost of an item purchased at retail because they're handled in bulk and the costs are amortized over a large number of items. Shipping and handling is a large component of mail order because the items are handled individually - and that doesn't change just because they're delivered to your local Radio Shack rather than to your doorstep. (And no, they're not going to absorb $5 S&H on a $0.75 part the way Best Buy will on a $20 cable.)
       

      I'll bet some of those hobby suppliers would have been amenable to merchandising a network of warehouses that they too could ship from around the US.

      Only if they're absolutely insane. Warehouses and inventory cost money, big money, and are only justified when the sufficient sales volume or demand for next day delivery justifies it. Neither exists in the case of retailers of electronic components - there's a reason why all the storefront chains of component retailers either gone bankrupt, been absorbed, or added additional lines of merchandise.
       

      My point being, once you already have a high-street retail presence and a logistics setup to handle distribution then they may have well found something to do with it.

      I grasped your point. Meanwhile you completely fail to grasp the cost and complexities involved. Same-day and next-day distribution adds both of these above and beyond the normal costs of retail logistics. There's a reason why few retailers have adopted that model, or limited it to stock on hand.

  54. Re: 4k by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That wouldn't be Softside, would it? When they first started to publish Basic games for the TRS-80, R/S threatened to sue for IP violations; only R/S, they said, had the right to say "Radio Shack" or "TRS-80" in print unless they paid royalties. So Softside began referring to them as "S-80 bus" games.

    R/S got their wish: nobody ever discusses Radio Shack computers in print any more.

  55. Computer Shopper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as I could get a better deal on a 486 ordering it through Computer Shopper than at Radio Shack or Comp USA, there's no point in using a brick and mortar store. And once the Internet came around, "whoa boy", we now have newegg and pricewatch that I know of to get superb deals.

  56. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    DO NOT look at fork with remaining eye!

  57. My nostaligic comment on this from Jan 15 by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
    "Yeah, sad for me too. When I was a kid, in the late 1970s, with an interest in robotics and computers., my father and I would visit Radio Shacks to get various parts for my projects. ..."

    I was tempted to follow creimer's example from that discussion and buy some stock or options hoping for a bounce, but I guess financially now I'm glad I didn't:
    http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
    "Radio Shack has been preparing for bankruptcy for years. There's nothing new in the WSJ report that haven't already been reported before. Radio Shack stock price dived to $0.26 this morning and climbing back up. I bought 80 shares @ $0.48 on Tuesday. I might buy more share later. This is a long shot bet that might triple or lose my money."

    Still might have been fun just for the nostalgia though, like by getting the actual stock certificates. Sorry buying RS stock recently was apparently not profitable you, creimer. You might want to request the actual certificates and hope they become collector's items eventually? See:
    http://www.investopedia.com/as...
    "Before online brokers and personally-directed accounts, holding a physical stock certificate was a necessity, as this was the only way to authenticate stock ownership. This is not the case anymore. Although you may not need to hold a stock certificate, you may request one. The corporation you are holding stock in issues stock certificates, and you can get your certificate either directly from the issuing corporation, or by contacting your broker who may get the stock certificate on your behalf.
          Detailed on the stock certificate itself will be your name, the company's name and the number of shares you own. There also will be a seal of authenticity, a signature from someone with assigning authority authenticating the certificate and either a CUSIP or CINS number. Currently, stock certificates are seen more as collectibles and souvenirs than actual records of ownership.
        On the other hand, corporations may not have an interest in sending all shareholders stock certificates, although they are required to by law if requested. ..."

    In any case, even if not totally unexpected, sad news...

    --
    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  58. Darn by Brad1138 · · Score: 2

    I was hoping "Incredible Universe" would make a comeback...

    --
    If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people
  59. Cables & IC components? by sansprivacy · · Score: 1

    It's not as much a failure of the demand on what they sell as much as it is the decline of the physical store front.

  60. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by Socguy · · Score: 1

    I don't think they're surviving any better up here. I have not found a reason to purchase anything from one of their stores for a decade now. At one point they had hard to find components. Now they have what exactly? A small quantity of stuff that can be purchased cheaper elsewhere...

  61. Re: 4k by towermac · · Score: 1

    Heh.

  62. Sorry to see them go... by jdgoulden · · Score: 1

    I worked for Radio Shack 'way back in the day, in college and grad school. They had a nice stock-matching program and it split three times while I was there. When I finally cashed out it payed for my first decent car. But my real claim to fame was to own the second TRS-80 Model I sold in my city. The district manager got the first one; I got the second. 4KB of RAM and it could (a) beat me at chess and (b) with the Eliza program converse convincingly with my girlfriend. She said that the computer understood her a lot better than I ever did!

  63. circuit city again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Treats employees like shit.

    Overpriced, shitty merchandise with useless, uncaring sales personnel.

    Sounds familiar?

  64. hope not... by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    Goodbye old friend.

    Man, me too...

    I *love* Radio Shack.

    I love going in and rummaging through the parts to see what kind of stuff I could make.

    Well...now it's different. When I was a kid it was with my dad for fun, now I'm making hand-crafted electronics and it's more immediate.

    I just can't help but think that with the right merchandising Radio Shack can be a hit.

    A deal with Apple makes total sense...b/c Radio Shack is so many places where Apple stores are not.

    Ah well...

    I hope the current locations can stay open where I live at least when the Sprint changeover comes.

    --
    Thank you Dave Raggett
  65. Re:A shame. Arduino kits and a better parts select by LMariachi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm wondering if the variance in reported RS experiences reflects a difference in management between the company-owned outlets and the franchise stores. Maybe the one you went to was a franchise, where the owner is invested and thus takes an active interest in making a go of it, instead of simply following edicts from corporate.

  66. Mom-and-Pops don't survive in America by aussersterne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    because suburbanites and flyover folks won't shop in them. Mom and pop and competing national chain open on the same block, the entire crowd flocks to national chains, particularly in smaller communities. Hell, they're even proud to have them. Getting a Wal-Mart means they've arrived, it puts them on the map.

    The only place where Mom-and-pop shops still survive are in heavily blue urban areas, where they continue to do well. That's no accident.

    --
    STOP . AMERICA . NOW
  67. Yup, bewildering management. by aussersterne · · Score: 2

    They seem to have decided a number of years ago to try to be Best Buy, only in 1/20th of the floor space, with higher prices, and while ensuring that they rebadge any major brand products to bear their own, woefully antiquated and little-known brand badges instead, to ensure that consumers would gravitate to Best Buy instead, where said major brands with which consumers were familiar continued to remain on display.

    It started to make zero sense sometime in the late-1980s and it just got worse and worse from there.

    I still buy parts, diagnostic equipment, and accessories for many tech items in the house. Just now I buy them on Amazon.com. I just bought a pack of about 30 DPDT switches the other day for $5.00 or so. I don't need 30, I just need one. I'd have just as well paid Radio Shack $2.99 for a switch and had it the same day—only the local store doesn't carry that stuff any longer.

    --
    STOP . AMERICA . NOW
  68. Relics by hambone142 · · Score: 1

    Goodbye to Allied Radio, Heathkit, Lafayette Electronics, Henry Radio and the rest of them. Times have changed. It's so sad to see the end of the ability to design and experiment with electronic hardware. Let's face it, who's going to attempt to hand wire ASICs, SMT devices and keep signal integrity on what was previously-known as a "breadboard" circuit? Things have changed but there is a huge gap in the ability for hobbyists to design and construct hardware. All that seems to exist is video shit/games. Minecraft, Halo et. al. My son is "getting in to it" but it's very limited. Nothing of substance except messing with programming languages. I see a niche opportunity. Not easy to accomplish but it would be interesting to see if an interface of SMT devices for experimenter hardware could be accomplished. However, in the day of "immediate gratification" youth, I'm not sure it it's viable. From a financial perspective, likely not. Gone are the days. (time to bring the Swan 350C back from the dead)

    1. Re:Relics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's so sad to see the end of the ability to design and experiment with electronic hardware.

      I'm a 40yo EE and times have never been better in the history of EE. I can (and have) today purchase more electronic equipment than existed in the world 30 years ago and do it with only a few hours of minimum wage labor. I can buy a SDR ham radio for $50, the equivalent if not far better of a thousands of dollars 1970's vintage equipment.

    2. Re:Relics by Alioth · · Score: 1

      I disagree with your message 100%. Happily you're mistaken on the demise of the ability to design and experiment with electronics.

      In fact we are living in a golden age of electronics tinkering.

      Through hole components are still made in humungous quantities. Even the classic Z80 CPU is *still manufactured* and readily available, as are all the chips you need to do something with it. It's easier than ever and cheaper than ever to buy a grab bag of components, ICs and a bread board and experiment. Only recently, just for fun, I made a Z80 based computer on breadboard. The chips were all brand new and sold through mainstream channels (Premier Farnell) and arrived the day after I placed the order. 74-series logic is still made in vast quantities, as are the classic analogue chips like comparators, op-amps, and of course the versatile mainstay of the hobbyist's parts box, the 555.

      If you want to do something bigger, there are free and open source schematic capture/PCB layout programs available for Linux, Windows and Mac. There are companies catering towards hobbyists who need a PCB made. You can get four layer PCBs of your own design made for under US $100. Four layers! You have things like the Arduino. You have things like the Raspberry Pi with its GPIO interface. You have cheap FPGA development boards and Xilinx's FPGA design software can be downloaded for free (and will run on Linux) and needs no extra hardware other than an FPGA dev board and a USB programmer (which can be had for $20 off ebay). You can make your own PCBs at home easier than ever with laser printer toner transfer. (I've made my own 2 sided PCBs at home using a laser printer, clothes iron, and some ferric chloride - and I've made a successful working PCB with a 0.4mm pitch SMD IC on it, soldered with a normal soldering iron).

      Information is easier to get than ever. There are hundreds of great SMD soldering tutorials on YouTube. Master it - it's easier than you think - and you can make circuits at home that weren't even in my wildest dreams 15 years ago. There are hundreds of good resources for learning how to design circuits. Test kit that used to be the reserve of only the wealthy or labs are now cheap - you can pick up a really good Tektronics oscilloscope of ebay suitable for the hobbyist for a great price.

      It has never been better to be an electronics hobbyist. There's TONS of stuff of substance. End of the ability to design and experiment with electronic hardware? I wager this is the most wrong statement you've made in your life! :-)

  69. Frys is next to shut down by SethJohnson · · Score: 1

    This AC speaks the truth. The frys in Austin doesn't even have magazines anymore. When you walk in the front door, there are tables set up with knock-off fragrances like you would find at a flea market. Sad times.

    1. Re:Frys is next to shut down by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Fry's has had some of that random junk down the center aisle up here for many years. I haven't seen much change in their product offerings otherwise except for products moving around constantly, lack of magazines (because print is dead), and lack of greeting cards (because I guess everybody buys them at Target).

      Oh, and they reduced their DVD/Blu-Ray/CD offerings to make room for more games, because that's what people apparently are buying.

      --

      Check out my sci-fi/humor trilogy at PatriotsBooks.

    2. Re:Frys is next to shut down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I specifically was referring to the Austin store. Been going there since it was new. Folks in San Antonio would love to get a Fry's (Austin has one, Houston has two?, DFW has a few), but there's no chance of it unless the economy takes off like crazy. If selling the crap keeps the doors open, I'm okay with it. But geez, they've even moved the DVDs a few rows back from the main entry aisle to stick the crap in where it's most visible. Basically they just have too much square footage now that they can't keep as much "real" stock. And getting rid of the boxes of overstock on the top shelves did make the place look better.

      On the other hand, they've done a decent job of making a "maker aisle". They mark up RasPis to $40, but still managed to have zero B+ on the shelf when the 2B came out this week. I'm a little disappointed to see that they got rid of the SMT parts that they used to stock, but meh, they still have a decent parts selection that blows RS away. Anyone hardcore enough to do SMT should be going mail order anyhow.

      As for the magazines, I don't know why they bothered with the generic non-tech crap that you could get at a regular bookstore. (Maybe it was like cable TV channels and the distributor required taking that many titles?) Magazines are not cheap to sell if you have to front the cash and can only get credit after you strip and return the covers. While it would have been nice to keep a few nerd niche mags, really it was smart for them to just drop them all. A lesson RS could have learned: don't sell stuff that there are chains that have stores everywhere who specialize in it. Especially not at a mark-up.

  70. It's Canada by phorm · · Score: 1

    They'll be eating Poutine and Beaver Tails. They manage to stab themselves in the cheek at times but they do apologize about it profusely.

  71. RadioBaba or AliShack by LuxuryYacht · · Score: 1

    Too bad Alibaba didn't make an offer to buy their stores. They could stock them with the top 250 or so electronics gadgets that sell. They could also handle all the local returns or warranty issues. Oh well, it was nice while they lasted from the 60's as Allied Radio and as Radio Shack until the late 80's

    --
    Quidquid latine dictum sit altum viditur
  72. Re:The Canadian arm of the business is stil operat by v1 · · Score: 1

    Their angle was "in stock and in HAND today". They lost sight of that, their most valuable resource. instant availability. I dropped $300 on dx.com last month in a single order. That gets you a crapton of small electronics. But you have to wait for it. I'm still waiting on one of the packages to get here. Ignoring the fact that 80% of that stuff RS doesn't carry, if they did, it would have cost well over a grand.

    I remember them putting out an open invitation for surveys last year, and I tried to explain that to them. But they were asking questions like "do you want more DIY stuff and kits". Those were radio shack's bread and butter earlier that they got rid of over time recently, but those actually needed to go away. I can get arduino clone boards for $16 that cost $65 at the shack. No one in their right mind plans to buy that locally. It costs way too much, and you don't need it today.

    The classic view of modern Radio Shack being a battery store is actually quite keen. Batteries are the perfect example of something you need now. If they were to survive, they were going to need to identify and focus on items like that. Small items that they can sell at a modest markup that people need TODAY. Anyone that can wait for something will order it from China. But instead they listened to the people that were reminiscing about how they used to shop at Radio Shack, and though that returning to a 20 yr old business model that they'd left behind was a good idea.

    It was not.

    --
    I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
  73. Sad by hduff · · Score: 1

    Another part of my youth about to be tossed in the dustbin of time.

    --
    "I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
  74. Don't compete on price with Walmart by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let me ask you this: On the day Wal-Mart opened in your town, there was still a hardware store, and an independent grocery store, clothing and shoe stores, ...

    There is a Walmart 4 miles south of the downtown where I live. It sees plenty of business as does the Lowes right next to it. We don't have an independent grocery store in our downtown but we do have a Kroger there and two independent grocery stores within 3-4 miles of downtown. What do we have downtown? We have a hardware store, several boutique clothing stores, a shoe store, several good restaurants, a bakery, a coffee shop, and a bunch of other generally thriving small businesses. Walmart has hardly made a dent in their businesses because they aren't really competing with Walmart.

    What we don't have is a bunch of businesses trying to compete with Walmart head on. If you want cheap stuff from China that's fine and Walmart is the place to go and nobody does it better. If you want an actual high touch shopping experience, you'll go somewhere else. Walmart is only a death knell to small business that try to provide the same services for higher prices. We have a local grocery store that provides a MUCH different experience than Walmart. They have a high quality butcher, they sell far better quality produce, they have baked goods you wouldn't dream of finding in Walmart, they have a greenhouse, and cooking classes, etc. If you want cheap kraft mac-n-cheese, they might have it but you'll get a better price at Walmart. They don't compete on price because ultimately there can only be one winner if you compete on price. They sell stuff you won't and never will get at Walmart and they're doing fine.

    Did you still go to those places, and never go to Wal-Mart? Myself, I resisted, but soon those stores were gone. And one by one those employees went to work at Wal-Mart for half the money.

    Sounds like those stores were only thriving because they were capitalizing on the fact that there was no price competition pre-Walmart. I have no love for Walmart but they serve a purpose which is to be a place to buy basic merchandise cheaply. Why would I spend more on the exact same shampoo or dog food elsewhere? Honestly I buy plenty of stuff from Amazon which is even better for me because I don't have to go anywhere. It just comes to me. But I still go to my local stores because they provide me things I can't get through Walmart or Amazon.

    1. Re:Don't compete on price with Walmart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want cheap stuff from China that's fine and Walmart is the place to go and nobody does it better.

      Amazon and ebay do it better and are the places to go. Not only are they usually less expensive, but when I shop in my pajamas, I don't get my picture plastered all over peopleofwalmart.com. Amazon prime pantry even has most non-perishable food items leaving only milk, hotdogs and beer (not necessarily in that order) to be purchased at a local store.

      But ultimately, ebay and amazon are still only middlemen and will someday go away.

    2. Re:Don't compete on price with Walmart by towermac · · Score: 1

      Senatobia Mississippi had a different experience. The Tru-Value, the Western Auto, most of the little dress shops; gone. 3 grocery stores became one and a half. At least a dozen businesses went under soon after Wal-Mart arrived.

      Sure, the stores were charging more than they could have before Wal-Mart. That extra money went for higher than apparently necessary wages and the remainder stayed in the pockets of business owners. In this example, that's about a dozen slightly rich people and a hundred making a living wage.

      The Wal-Mart replacement has about a hundred people making half that living wage, a half-dozen making a good wage, and one person that's well off; the manager. He's at about the same level as the poorer of the former business owners.

      Those business owners lived there, and that extra money, even if temporarily concentrated in their greedy rich hands, stayed in or near Senatobia. And it was eventually re-spent there, taxed both before and after the fact.

      Wal-Mart's business model is to tap those local pockets of wealth and siphon it to Bentonville. The way they do it so cheaply, is to burn through desperate employees and local benefits. Also, they leave a little in the pockets of us consumers through lower prices, which is what buys us off so that we allow this to happen.

      Why would you spend more on the exact same shampoo?

      Because you should be honest, and pay a fair price for goods, and not take advantage of your fellow man. Don't live off the charity of others. Wal-Mart's gig is eventually unsustainable in its' current form. (See the Henry Ford reference above.)

    3. Re:Don't compete on price with Walmart by sjbe · · Score: 1

      Those business owners lived there, and that extra money, even if temporarily concentrated in their greedy rich hands, stayed in or near Senatobia. And it was eventually re-spent there, taxed both before and after the fact.

      Ahh, the buy-local movement. All kinds of flaws in the economic argument there. First off, very little of the merchandise being sold is produced locally in all likelihood and little that is produced locally is generally sold there. Second off, it shows complete ignorance of comparative advantage. Third, both the local merchants and the megacorp can be taxed equivalently so unless a bad deal was agreed to there is no difference there. Fourth, you are completely ignoring labor mobility. There is nothing in the long run preventing most folks from moving to where there is better economic opportunity if things are so bad. If they want to hurt economically for sentimentality then that is their choice but it is an irrational choice. Fifth, the notion that the profits stay local is at most marginally true and generally false. Small businesses rarely are hugely profitable and what profits they have tend to go into the savings of the people who own the businesses. Do you seriously think most small businesses owners will never take their savings out of town with them when they retire?

      Sorry but those folks basically set themselves up for an economic disaster. They had a bad business model based on a localized arbitrage that went away when a more efficient company came into the picture. That is exactly how capitalism is supposed to work.

      Because you should be honest, and pay a fair price for goods, and not take advantage of your fellow man. Don't live off the charity of others.

      That is self-contradicting nonsense. So let me get this straight. It's ok for a vendor to overcharge me for a commodity good but it's not ok for me to seek a better deal even though doing so is against my own self interest? I'm supposed to provide charity to a local merchant but the merchant can charge me whatever price they feel like?

      Yeah, no...

      If I buy shampoo from a merchant that transaction is a zero sum game. If I pay more then the merchant has more and I have less. I will not get that money back. It is out of my pocket and in someone else's. I would be foolish to not seek a better deal if possible. If the small merchant wants to provide me some sort of additional value (convenience, expertise, something else I value) then awesome but I'm not about to become a charity supporting local merchants. If they can't provide extra value then it should surprise no one when someone else comes into the economic picture who can. Any expectation to the contrary is foolish nonsense.

  75. No reason to go there by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    RadioShack dabbled in Enthusiast PC hardware, but gave up on it. I found them to be fairly priced for getting stuff I needed "now"

    Really? I have bought some stuff I needed "now" though RadioShack in the last few years. I pretty much always felt like they were gouging me on price and their selection generally sucked. The ONLY reason I ever had to go to a RadioShack was when I needed something right this minute and there were no other convenient options. I have a Microcenter across town but it's a 45 minute drive to get there. I can order from Amazon if I can wait until tomorrow. But the number of times when RadioShack actually was the best available option has been very few.

    1. Re:No reason to go there by Daetrin · · Score: 2

      Radio Shack serves a need, it just doesn't serve it very well. I needed a 6' USB extension cable last weekend on short notice. I checked at Radio Shack, Staples and Office Depot. If i remember correctly the prices were:

      Radio Shack: $35
      Staples: $25
      Office Depot: $20

      I'm probably wrong about the specifics, but that was the general range. Meanwhile i could go online and get a cable from Monoprice for $3-4, and, rather insultingly, Office Depot's online store had one for $5-6.

      If Radio Shack had a cable for about $10 i probably would have given up and bought it there just for the convenience, even though i still would have considered that price gouging. But paying an order of magnitude more was just out of the question. This ought to have been exactly the case where Radio Shack came to the rescue, but instead they were the worst of the bunch.

      --
      This Space Intentionally Left Blank
    2. Re:No reason to go there by MooseTick · · Score: 1

      FYI: Dollartree usually has those in stock and they're only a buck.

  76. the market changed by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    and eliminated Radio Shack's advantage. Building, and repairing, electronics from components used to be common enough so that RS could build a good business being the local component supplier. Add to that staff knowledgeable about electronics and you had a nice niche market. As electronics moved from the ability to build at the component level (anyone remember Heathkit?) RS started to lose its customer base. Someone with a reasonable amount of skill could learn to solder a resistor on a circuit board but soldering microchips and ICs required a whole different level of skill and equipment; as a result building electronic equipment became more plug and play rater than etch and solder. Once their core market began to decline they needed to move in other directions, which put them in competition with the growing big box stores (electronics such as stereos) selling name brands at cheap prices and computer manufactures selling IBM clones and Apple. Add in the cheap electronic toys at Christmas and now you have a mix of items, none of which proved profitable enough, or compelling enough to bring in customers, to make a go at it. They wound up being a little bit of everything but not enough of one thing to survive when competing with better stocked stores with more choices in each market they were trying to reach.

    While management has a large amount of the blame for RS dying, the shifting marketplace and changing consumer really sealed their fate no matter what management did.

    The idea of Amazon buying their stores was intriguing as it helps deal with one of their logistics problems; namely how can we reduce the cost of shipping to homes? Given their foray into predictive purchasing that could stock stores based on anticipated demand and eliminate the cost of shipping door to door. The question would be is running stores cheaper than shipping? My guess is no unless it generates enough additional sales to cover the costs and meet the desired profit margins.

    --
    I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
  77. Apple is not going to buy RadioShack assets by sjbe · · Score: 2

    A deal with Apple makes total sense...b/c Radio Shack is so many places where Apple stores are not.

    It's not about quantity of locations its about quality of locations. Apple chooses the locations for their stores VERY carefully. They aren't in 2000 strip malls for a reason. They would have to seriously compromise a lot of about what makes their product and sales experience different. Honestly I cannot think of any value in RadioShack's rotting carcass to Apple.

    Amazon on the other hand... maybe. The biggest risk to Amazon is companies like Macy's or Walmart finally figuring out that stores can serve as warehouses. Amazon is building warehouses all over the place to get closer to customers but Macy's and Target and Walmart already have this. They just lack the back end IT that Amazon has. Amazon is working towards getting storefronts and if the price is right this might be a way to do it. Maybe...

  78. So many Shack's become phone stores?Go figure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How appropriate that many of the Radio Shack's will become Sprint phone stores? Finally get rid of all that other crap wasting shelf space for cases, accessories
    and more phones! Good luck with that Sprint, as if your business model is in any better shape then Radio Shacks?

  79. radio shack changed by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    And totally failed to have a competitive advantage. Everything they changed to was something someone else was already doing, and they didn't make a sufficiently serious effort at it to do it well. If they were going to have only employees who knew how to sell cellphones, they should have just ditched all that other stuff completely or moved it to online-only and just been a cellphone store. But they were a crappy cellphone store, because they didn't focus on that. Nor, in fact, did they ever focus on anything ever again. Hey, look, a squirrel! Bankruptcy.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    1. Re:radio shack changed by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      And totally failed to have a competitive advantage. Everything they changed to was something someone else was already doing, and they didn't make a sufficiently serious effort at it to do it well. If they were going to have only employees who knew how to sell cellphones, they should have just ditched all that other stuff completely or moved it to online-only and just been a cellphone store. But they were a crappy cellphone store, because they didn't focus on that. Nor, in fact, did they ever focus on anything ever again. Hey, look, a squirrel! Bankruptcy.

      Exactly. It reeked of desperation where management was trying to find anything, something, that would work. As a result, they went into a death spiral and never recovered. The real sad part is the lower level managers and employees will be out of a job while senior management no doubt gets paid to stick through the bankruptcy sale and move son to other high paying jobs because what happened "wasn't their fault."

      --
      I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
  80. Re: 4k by operagost · · Score: 1

    That's why I liked my VIC. Only 3.5K available, but I used to be able to really cram programs that supposedly needed 5K by removing the REMs and using the command tokens (first letter, then second letter shifted).

    --

    Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
  81. Close out sale? by modi123 · · Score: 1

    I haven't heard anything definitive, but are they going to throw a massive closeout sale ala Circuit City, or just lock the door? If their prices are reasonable I may go raid them for their DIY electronics gear.

  82. So long Radio Shack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So long Radio Shack (give me none of this newfangled "RadioShack" spelling). To me you'll always be the place where ignorant salespeople charged me disproportionate prices for a few resistors and LEDs, back when I was young and didn't know any better. But at least you had resistors and LEDs and breadboards and stuff. You know I still have my Realistic CTR-80 tape recorder? I bet it would still work if the C batteries hadn't leaked all over it -- yes, they were Radio Shack batteries, why do you ask? Anyway, so long and thanks for all the LEDs, and can I have your address and cell phone provider?

  83. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  84. hmmm by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

    I was in Radio shack a few months ago looking for a Mic for my HAM Radio. The guy at the counter said "We don't sell radio stuff like that..." I said "But you're radio shack!" He laughed at me "No-body comes to the Mall to buy Radios" I finally said "The only person you currently have standing in your store came here for a Radio, you might want to rethink your inventory" and walked out. Morons.

  85. Sparkfun, AdaFruit, 3d Printing, Maker Spaces, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could you imagine how awesome it would be if Sparkfun, AdaFruit, 3d Printing and Laser Cutting companies and startup incubators pitched in and bought out Radio Shack..I would be breaking down the door saying take my money to Maker Spaces like you could only dream of.

  86. TechAmerica by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

    Not mentioned too often (or at all; I've not seen it mentioned even once) is the story of Radio Shack's experiment with a chain of stores called TechAmerica.

    TechAmerica was like a giant RS plus the parts aisles from a Frys, plus audio, ham radio, kit stuff, science toys, books, cable, computer parts, you name it. Maybe 40,000Sq feet. The one near me was half of a former discount store so quite large.

    Anyway, TechAmerica had three stores in Colorado, Arizona and Georgia. They were great for hobbyists but there were problems. One was pricing. They expected people unsure what the store was about to be happy paying premium prices. And of course the hobby types already knew where to get cheaper parts and batter deals so they didn't like the prices either. Two, it was stocked with what seemed to be an idea that all they had to do was put stuff on the floor and it would sell, which wasn't the case. You know, spools of wire might sit for years. This is fine if you expect that. But bad if you want SKUs to move weekly.

    The third problem was RadioShack itself. TechAmerica was created around 1999 or so right at the dawn of the e-commerce boom. RS didn't have a competent online presence (and never got one) and looked at TA to be their online fulfillment spear. It was a disaster.

    Had they let TA bloom and find its own way, it might have worked. They were unique places where you could go buy all the neat stuff a normal RS would not have. Well, provided you didn't mind paying extra for it. You could get computer parts too, except more costly than anywhere else.

    These stores would have been great for the Maker movement except they were 13 years too early and overpriced. And they didn't have 13 years to wait for a movement to spring up .

    After about two years, 2001 or so, corporate threw in the towel. The TA stores were renamed to "Radio ShackDOTcom" around 2001 and stuffed with crappy even more RS merchandise. The hobbyist angle was dropped. One of these RadioShackDOTcom stores was even in the same strip of stores as a normal Radio Shack which did more sales that the old TA.

    The whole TA project was scrapped and forgotten. RS largely forgets that they ever existed.

    --
    Sig for hire.
  87. Damn! by CaffeinieBaby · · Score: 1

    Crap, now where am I going to buy more inodes when I run out?

  88. This Might Have Helped by kackle · · Score: 1

    Years ago I emailed RadioShack corporate (RS), Mouser, Newark and DigiKey. I told each to collaborate with RS making each of RS's retail stores a pick-up point for the electronics distributors (Mouser, Newark and DigiKey) who could ship to RS's distribution hubs instead of directly to hobbyist customers. In other words, I order something from Mouser, and pick it up a week or two later at my local RS. I win because I don't have to pay $7 to ship a few diodes, Mouser wins because of increased business, and RS wins because they get a tiny cut of each sale and/or they get more foot traffic in each store, someone who might need some solder after all.

    Alas, none emailed me back nor apparently ran with the idea.

    R.I.P. RadioShack, we had some good times, though it was long ago.

  89. As an avid Radio Shack fan... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This really sucks.Our home town Radio Shack was closed a while back and I could understand that in such a small town but for the entire company to just give up and go bankrupt...I don't get it...they literally have NO competition in the majority of their items. Yes, they could ditch the phones and standard networking equipment that everyone knows everyone else sells way cheaper but they are the only place in the nation to get your hands on IC items, They're killing a lot of people's hobbies for nothing. Just because they didn't realize what merchandise was practical for them to sell and what wasn't. Poor management all the way to the top.

  90. YRO? WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why the hell is this article under YRO ("Your Rights Online")??