That bank will most likely not give you a loan on a car older than 5 years. That range is out of the band of what most people going to these car shark places can afford. Furthermore, go into a bank with a 630 credit score like I have and see if they give you a dime. Hint: they won't! But as always, if you have enough money, then you can play the banks and dealers off of each other as you suggest. Poor folks have to take what they can get.
Yes they are. You're playing the ration actor card. If I take your car loan and decide to not pay it then I still have your car and can still drive it until you finally hunt it down and repo it. I could get several free months of car. But with that device, it is useless the day I'm late paying it. No free rides for me. How exactly is that not worse off?
They don't have to be liars though it's telling you jump straight to that conclusion. It is unlikely they are doing anything with the starter itself. The starter relay (which ISN'T the solenoid) may be disabled but following the "big red wire" isn't going to help you. They'll never mess with that one. It has the duty of carrying those 800+ cold cranking amps the battery puts out to the starter. That isn't a small relay. It would be about exactly the same size of the solenoid (which is part of its job). There is a little relay somewhere though, that switches that big solenoid, which then makes the starter crank over. However, the best way to disable a vehicle with the least amount of work is to disable the fuel pump or ignition coil. Factory alarm systems often do this- I've bypassed several. Cadillac, for instance, does fuel pump relay deactivation, starter relay deactivation AND fuel injector cut! If ignition, fuel injection or the pump is deactivated while running, you can bet your ass it'll shut off while driving. You nor I know exactly what system is being employed by each scam company so your victim blaming isn't warranted in this case.
That's why when bypassing black box objects, you don't simulate the inputs. You are after the output so instead of trying to trick the box, you leave it alone and find its output wire and patch into that. As far as the black box is concerned, it is doing what it should, and you manually switch start enable on or off. As us engineers are apt to do, you've over analyzed the situation and have started thinking hashes, encryption, pings and whatnot. That's fun to imagine and experiment with, no doubt, but it's not the easiest nor quickest way to achieve your goal. As a side benefit, by tapping the output line you won't make the box think it has been tampered with in most cases and if a different problem with the box pops up, you won't have to apply hack #2 to overcome that deficiency. These things are designed to be easily installed by mechanics who might not be the cream of the crop. Remember most places doing these shenanigans are those buy here pay here places and they aren't known for paying top dollar to their mechanics. So the box can't be much more than "plug in here, and run a power wire" or they'd lose money fixing all the screw ups.
You know damned good and well that conservatives often donate their cars too, but the sure don't do it for free. They get paid via tax write offs. Don't pretend one side is nobler than the other.
I do complain about that. I also figure out how to not get caught again (how did I screw up in this situation and how can I do better). Those who do not have the means to live like you, have to do what they can to get by. That's just how the world works.
That's a big assumption. The entire point of this device is to be added on to an existing automotive control system with minimal effort so that they can remotely shut it off. If you have ever worked on a vehicle's electrical system, you'd know how trivial it is to trick the ECU into thinking all kinds of things. You'd also know how easy it is to bypass this box!:D
I know it was an example and I gave you a solution. I already know how they recycle stuff at my facility and they do indeed run everything through several differently sized sieves. You have to get the cans and the paper apart from all the little stuff like the coffee grounds. And sure it won't be perfect but it is evidently good enough for them. My solution for all of those things in your list is to burn them to run power generators. We can scrub the hell out of the exhaust stream until we have practically nothing but water vapor and CO2 (we already do this in coal plants, automobiles, etc). The sludge scrubbed can then be dealt with and by volume it will take up less space so your landfills don't overflow (if burying it is appropriate). And my town does recycle, we just don't do it to your level and I suspect that is the real issue. We pay people at the dump to go through our trash and do whatever they should with it. What happens to it after that isn't my concern. I'm paying them to do a job so I expect them to render service (but like I said in my other post to you, I don't COUNT on them rendering it because people are lazy). They can figure out how to do their jobs themselves.
I never claimed to be part of the solution. Thing is, I'm not alone. This is often why recycling programs fail. There are so many of us who do the bare minimum necessary to get by that you have to adjust your planning to accommodate us. There's simply no way around it. If you expect us to just do the whatever it is you want, then you'll be sadly disappointed. The reward for ones efforts regarding recycling are never seen immediately. So if you're the type of person who is already barely giving a shit, and someone shows up with a page of "requirements" along with a ticket, then you went over the threshold of effort vs reward. No matter how many cuddly marmots my recycling saves in East Kansas, if you're in my face in my front yard bitching at me, I quickly realize there are no marmots in Tennessee and all my attempts at saving them are bringing me nothing but grief. So I say fuck those marmots, get out of my yard, and you'll be lucky if I just don't go dump it all in the woods or start a nice smoky black fire. It's not what I WANT to do, mind you, but you're annoying the shit out of me with your rules and I've already got a full day, I'm running late, and I'd rather be banging the hot blonde in my office instead of worrying about marmots.
Did you catch the part where I said that I already recycle my metals? Why? Because that is an incentive. That is money going into my pocket. Your fines are a disincentive, that is money flowing OUT of my pocket (which I hate). Not only that, but it comes off as you being a sanctimonious prick (not you in particular). It's like you get to be big daddy and run around spanking all of us naughty kids and most folks don't like that. If you bribe us however, we think we're getting away with something someone else isn't and our primate-derived brains eat that shit up by the boat load.
So to sum things up, I'm not actually a rabid tree hugger hater. I do what I can to keep my town cleaned up provided it doesn't end up becoming a job. I already have 2 of those. I'd certainly expect to have the law come down on me if I were dumping barrels of waste or burning a 10ft tall tire pyramid in the back yard. It's bad when everyone is doing things like that, no doubt about it. But again, people in general are lazy (though I outdo most!), so don't make things too difficult and we won't fight back. I could take you to an absolutely gorgeous mountain view right outside of town here and you would be amazed...until you looked down. That is the tire bluff because there is no place you can take a tire to dispose of for free (well if you present a food stamp card it's free). Even straight to the landfill they still charge $5/tire. So people who are cheap asses or those who love to stick it to the man just throw them off the side of the bluff. That's the kind of problems recycling proponents have to overcome.
Well, I do. In my town, everything goes in one can. I recycle my metals myself at the local scrap yard. They pay me instead of the city. I like that. I'd sell them my paper and plastic too, but the profit is so low for those, the places near me won't bother taking them. It's pretty much metal and circuit boards that they're after. Also, coffee grounds are simple enough. A motorized sieve would do fine.
Because I'm not keeping 3 cans by my desk. And I'm not making 3 trips to the curb to dump them. And I'm not doing this for every room of my home where I keep a can. You forgot, I'm terribly lazy. I would rather pay someone else, who needs a job worse than I do, to separate it at the recycling facility. Also, your 3 can method wouldn't matter anyway in that particular example. Where I buy potatoes, they come on plastic bags. I never remove them from said bag until it's time to cook them. Often that is so long that they liquefy hence why I said I'm not opening that bag of sludge. The plastic bag can't go in the compost bin so it'll just get dumped wherever I find it. You may have thought I meant opening the actual trash bag. We didn't even get that far!
Yeah, but I'm not opening that plastic bag full of sludge to separate it. I'll totally pay the fine. What people aren't realizing here is that for $4/mo you can just dump everything into ONE can! I'm cool with that!
Because I'm a fat, lazy Amnerican. Is that what you've been waiting for someone to say? I just want to throw my garbage away. I don't want to shop around for the best rates, highest customer service, or whatever other BS thing I do when I shop for something. I just to throw my shit in the yard (figuratively of course) and then it magically disappears by Monday morning. I only pay $12/mo with the city. Who's going to compete with that anyway?
And who pays those private contractors? The city! And how do they get the money to pay them? Taxes! And who pays those? We do! EEEEERGO, we pay for trash disposal via taxes. Is that hard? Personally, I wouldn't mind just dumping everything in one can like I do now and hire some folks to work at the recycling plant to separate it. Ya know, cause we need jobs.
Every online dictionary I read says no such thing. Loopholes (the real ones) are intentionally built so you can fire on invaders so why wouldn't any derivative use carry that implication as well? You're being pedantic because...it's fun I guess?
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Evidently many of them do have GPS but the car stealers still cut them off whenever.
That bank will most likely not give you a loan on a car older than 5 years. That range is out of the band of what most people going to these car shark places can afford. Furthermore, go into a bank with a 630 credit score like I have and see if they give you a dime. Hint: they won't! But as always, if you have enough money, then you can play the banks and dealers off of each other as you suggest. Poor folks have to take what they can get.
Yes they are. You're playing the ration actor card. If I take your car loan and decide to not pay it then I still have your car and can still drive it until you finally hunt it down and repo it. I could get several free months of car. But with that device, it is useless the day I'm late paying it. No free rides for me. How exactly is that not worse off?
I never ate so well as I did on food stamps! I apply for them any time I can, because I've paid into them via taxes.
Wait, in the long run, poor people being poor doing poor things will make them rich? BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you a politician?
They don't have to be liars though it's telling you jump straight to that conclusion. It is unlikely they are doing anything with the starter itself. The starter relay (which ISN'T the solenoid) may be disabled but following the "big red wire" isn't going to help you. They'll never mess with that one. It has the duty of carrying those 800+ cold cranking amps the battery puts out to the starter. That isn't a small relay. It would be about exactly the same size of the solenoid (which is part of its job). There is a little relay somewhere though, that switches that big solenoid, which then makes the starter crank over. However, the best way to disable a vehicle with the least amount of work is to disable the fuel pump or ignition coil. Factory alarm systems often do this- I've bypassed several. Cadillac, for instance, does fuel pump relay deactivation, starter relay deactivation AND fuel injector cut! If ignition, fuel injection or the pump is deactivated while running, you can bet your ass it'll shut off while driving. You nor I know exactly what system is being employed by each scam company so your victim blaming isn't warranted in this case.
That's why when bypassing black box objects, you don't simulate the inputs. You are after the output so instead of trying to trick the box, you leave it alone and find its output wire and patch into that. As far as the black box is concerned, it is doing what it should, and you manually switch start enable on or off. As us engineers are apt to do, you've over analyzed the situation and have started thinking hashes, encryption, pings and whatnot. That's fun to imagine and experiment with, no doubt, but it's not the easiest nor quickest way to achieve your goal. As a side benefit, by tapping the output line you won't make the box think it has been tampered with in most cases and if a different problem with the box pops up, you won't have to apply hack #2 to overcome that deficiency. These things are designed to be easily installed by mechanics who might not be the cream of the crop. Remember most places doing these shenanigans are those buy here pay here places and they aren't known for paying top dollar to their mechanics. So the box can't be much more than "plug in here, and run a power wire" or they'd lose money fixing all the screw ups.
You know damned good and well that conservatives often donate their cars too, but the sure don't do it for free. They get paid via tax write offs. Don't pretend one side is nobler than the other.
I do complain about that. I also figure out how to not get caught again (how did I screw up in this situation and how can I do better). Those who do not have the means to live like you, have to do what they can to get by. That's just how the world works.
That's a big assumption. The entire point of this device is to be added on to an existing automotive control system with minimal effort so that they can remotely shut it off. If you have ever worked on a vehicle's electrical system, you'd know how trivial it is to trick the ECU into thinking all kinds of things. You'd also know how easy it is to bypass this box! :D
Unplug the damned box!
Weed is a plant and compostable, therefore, yes it should be placed in the composting bin. Doing otherwise would trigger the fine.
I know it was an example and I gave you a solution. I already know how they recycle stuff at my facility and they do indeed run everything through several differently sized sieves. You have to get the cans and the paper apart from all the little stuff like the coffee grounds. And sure it won't be perfect but it is evidently good enough for them. My solution for all of those things in your list is to burn them to run power generators. We can scrub the hell out of the exhaust stream until we have practically nothing but water vapor and CO2 (we already do this in coal plants, automobiles, etc). The sludge scrubbed can then be dealt with and by volume it will take up less space so your landfills don't overflow (if burying it is appropriate). And my town does recycle, we just don't do it to your level and I suspect that is the real issue. We pay people at the dump to go through our trash and do whatever they should with it. What happens to it after that isn't my concern. I'm paying them to do a job so I expect them to render service (but like I said in my other post to you, I don't COUNT on them rendering it because people are lazy). They can figure out how to do their jobs themselves.
I never claimed to be part of the solution. Thing is, I'm not alone. This is often why recycling programs fail. There are so many of us who do the bare minimum necessary to get by that you have to adjust your planning to accommodate us. There's simply no way around it. If you expect us to just do the whatever it is you want, then you'll be sadly disappointed. The reward for ones efforts regarding recycling are never seen immediately. So if you're the type of person who is already barely giving a shit, and someone shows up with a page of "requirements" along with a ticket, then you went over the threshold of effort vs reward. No matter how many cuddly marmots my recycling saves in East Kansas, if you're in my face in my front yard bitching at me, I quickly realize there are no marmots in Tennessee and all my attempts at saving them are bringing me nothing but grief. So I say fuck those marmots, get out of my yard, and you'll be lucky if I just don't go dump it all in the woods or start a nice smoky black fire. It's not what I WANT to do, mind you, but you're annoying the shit out of me with your rules and I've already got a full day, I'm running late, and I'd rather be banging the hot blonde in my office instead of worrying about marmots.
Did you catch the part where I said that I already recycle my metals? Why? Because that is an incentive. That is money going into my pocket. Your fines are a disincentive, that is money flowing OUT of my pocket (which I hate). Not only that, but it comes off as you being a sanctimonious prick (not you in particular). It's like you get to be big daddy and run around spanking all of us naughty kids and most folks don't like that. If you bribe us however, we think we're getting away with something someone else isn't and our primate-derived brains eat that shit up by the boat load.
So to sum things up, I'm not actually a rabid tree hugger hater. I do what I can to keep my town cleaned up provided it doesn't end up becoming a job. I already have 2 of those. I'd certainly expect to have the law come down on me if I were dumping barrels of waste or burning a 10ft tall tire pyramid in the back yard. It's bad when everyone is doing things like that, no doubt about it. But again, people in general are lazy (though I outdo most!), so don't make things too difficult and we won't fight back. I could take you to an absolutely gorgeous mountain view right outside of town here and you would be amazed...until you looked down. That is the tire bluff because there is no place you can take a tire to dispose of for free (well if you present a food stamp card it's free). Even straight to the landfill they still charge $5/tire. So people who are cheap asses or those who love to stick it to the man just throw them off the side of the bluff. That's the kind of problems recycling proponents have to overcome.
Well, I do. In my town, everything goes in one can. I recycle my metals myself at the local scrap yard. They pay me instead of the city. I like that. I'd sell them my paper and plastic too, but the profit is so low for those, the places near me won't bother taking them. It's pretty much metal and circuit boards that they're after. Also, coffee grounds are simple enough. A motorized sieve would do fine.
Because I'm not keeping 3 cans by my desk. And I'm not making 3 trips to the curb to dump them. And I'm not doing this for every room of my home where I keep a can. You forgot, I'm terribly lazy. I would rather pay someone else, who needs a job worse than I do, to separate it at the recycling facility. Also, your 3 can method wouldn't matter anyway in that particular example. Where I buy potatoes, they come on plastic bags. I never remove them from said bag until it's time to cook them. Often that is so long that they liquefy hence why I said I'm not opening that bag of sludge. The plastic bag can't go in the compost bin so it'll just get dumped wherever I find it. You may have thought I meant opening the actual trash bag. We didn't even get that far!
I bet they're French! They probably have choices words about our mothers and elderberry reeking fathers!
Worse, MMORPG.
Yeah, but I'm not opening that plastic bag full of sludge to separate it. I'll totally pay the fine. What people aren't realizing here is that for $4/mo you can just dump everything into ONE can! I'm cool with that!
Because I'm a fat, lazy Amnerican. Is that what you've been waiting for someone to say? I just want to throw my garbage away. I don't want to shop around for the best rates, highest customer service, or whatever other BS thing I do when I shop for something. I just to throw my shit in the yard (figuratively of course) and then it magically disappears by Monday morning. I only pay $12/mo with the city. Who's going to compete with that anyway?
And who pays those private contractors? The city! And how do they get the money to pay them? Taxes! And who pays those? We do! EEEEERGO, we pay for trash disposal via taxes. Is that hard? Personally, I wouldn't mind just dumping everything in one can like I do now and hire some folks to work at the recycling plant to separate it. Ya know, cause we need jobs.
Every online dictionary I read says no such thing. Loopholes (the real ones) are intentionally built so you can fire on invaders so why wouldn't any derivative use carry that implication as well? You're being pedantic because...it's fun I guess?
I refuse to settle for the lesser of two evils! Cthulu 2016!
Hold your fire? What? Are we paying by the laser now?
And it'll still be better than the every man for himself mentality we have now. Or do you not see a problem with the current cartels?