While you are correct logically, anytime a human & money is involved in the equation logic goes out the window cause we are emotional creatures. So the gov may tell the banks "loan more poor folks money."(which they did). At first many bankers may say exactly what you did "But if we do that we'll go out of business." but when the regulators come back and tell them to do it anyway, make you a pile of cash and we'll deal with the fallout later, what do you expect them to do? Remember we as a society have become a "Fuck you, I got mine" society and so that banker can do 2 things: Sell them loans to poor folks he knows can't pay them back but he will get rich or have a conscience refuse to sell them and then he and his family will go without. Which choice do you think most will take? I hate that it is that way and a majority of our citizens have this fuck you attitude but it was foremost the fault of those regulators who wrote the regulations to force the banks to do thier bidding (not that they really complained that much). How do you think they should have responded?
NO, they **REALLY** do. The lamp may be flickering at 100/120Hz because of the sine wave, but the ballast IS driving it at 50/60Hz. The question was what ballast ever drove lamps at 60Hz. Reactive ballasts do. It says it right there in the paper you linked in the first sentence of "Flicker Eliminated." It is also stated on the next page under "Lower power ballast."
Maybe not scaling up, but have you never been in Windows when it booted into default video mode of 640x480 with a nice big warning box that it just set the res to that but the ok button is way the hell off the bottom of the screen where you can't click it? Seems the default desktop size is either 800x600 or 1024x768 but the failsafe video res is 640x480 so everything is too damned big. And to my dismay, there are still websites that don't fit right unless they are at the res they were programmed for. One even had a picture of a lady waving at you with a caption that stated if you can see her, you need to change your res cause if you don't all thier autopoppin drop down menus wouldn't match the menu bar and some of them disappear off the screen! Upping res should at worst, make things too small to read or click on, but at least it won't disappear off the edge where you'll never find it. If there is still a program that will refuse to even load if the res isn't correct, then it should go away. I haven't ran in to any of those since about Win 98.
You didn't help your cause not one bit. I thought I could show you an article about some TPer saying just that: arrest the gays. You won't like what came up. Google exactly this: Tea Party arrest the gays
What you will find is a whole lot of TPers who have been arrested for all kinds of fucked up shit: rape, murder, masturbating in front of kids, sexual crimes of all sorts. All kinds of weird shit that yes, any sample of humanity will do regardless of party lines. In the context of cheerleading your team though, you might want to stop that. It makes you guys look like you are sexually repressed pedo's....but hey to your credit, I didn't see any of those sexual crimes perpetrated on gays so if you're gonna rape a kid, at least make sure it's of the opposing sex. What self restraint and commitment to convitions your party has. I am gonna have to make the claim that Mr. Skepticism up there does, indeed, know who they are.
Wow a score 5 for a redneck joke. Let me +5 Informative you: I live in TN outside of a military base and people from up north and out west are just as racist as anyone else around here. IE, some are bad, hateful, useless sacks of meat and some are loving and accepting of other's differences. Some don't give 2 fucks. I know you think Miss has earned it's rep and in ways it has but your post was most definitely a TROLL and if you want to get into a link war on dumb shit found in MS, I can show you a link for damned near any other state. Who wants to go first?
Your sentiment is spot on and I agree wholeheartedly. You got it backwards though. The user doesn't need protection from google, google needs protection from the user! If the n bomb popped up in a google search (as I am sure it used to) and some African-American helicopter momma saw that, you can bet that she'd get an attorney if she were overtly sensitive or someone who thought they just won the lottery. The very fact that they even started censoring stuff like that is probably because they DID get sued by some helicopter mommas. It's simple CYA which to not affect their bottom line, they had to institute. But then your point kicks in and now that they can, they kind of have to. In this case, you know what makes that slope so damned slippery? Money.
To clarify your self fulfilling prophecy statement to other readers, it's like your favorite porn site. Most all of them have a button at the top that will show you the Most Favs, or Highest Views, Most Popular, etc. Have you ever actually clicked on that list? It is almost always the same 30 movies you've already cranked one out to 15 times. Why? Because the counters count the clicks, the views, the likes, etc. So when you watch what everyone else did, you incremented the counter keeping it at the top. Ad Infinitum. I have tried on multiple occasions to rig the system and put something crazy on the favs list like midget clown porn (hilarious fyi!) but I, alone, can't generate enough clicks by myself to get it to the top. Also, my hand goes numb. Some people like to call that game "Stranger" but it feels dead to me and I am not into Zombies or Necro in general. YMMV.
Er wait a minute...this article isn't about Somalia....where the hell did that come from? Oh we have a different article on the front page about Somalia. Keeping up with all these things is difficult especially when you have people 4 threads away screaming for a citation. You got what I meant though!
My response sounded pretty dickish. I have bad communication skills. It's a problem I know. I'm not trying to be that way and I'll tell ya why.
The citation needed shit get on my nerves because, like I said at the end of the post, I already know. Being skeptical seems to be one of those new hipster douche fads. Skepticism is good but these days you can't claim the sky is blue without someone screaming for a citation. One could respond that I don't know shit but I have already studied this subject years ago. That person is the one that doesn't know, they need to educate themselves- ya know be all bootstrappy and stuff. So say someone makes a claim that GWB was caught having sex with a goat and it's on youtube. When I hear something preposterous, I too get skeptical but you know what I do? I go look on youtube. If I can't find that info, then I can come back to the discussion and start asking for citations. Citation needed has been relegated to a synonym for "shut up" and I don't like it.
You citation needed folks get on my nerves, but in my line of work the saying is "show me the data." I have alot of free time so I went ahead and googled it for you. Now most of the studies are behind paywalls and the wiki articles all allude to the problem. You however went ahead and thought you were being clever by quantifying anything over 100Hz. As I said, most of the wiki document alluding to it were behind paywalls but I did find ONE that has a number in it. It's a PDF and it is on slide 2. Go read that and holler back at me. Once you have your revelation, you can accept it as a fact that doesn't mean the end of all physics, or you can move your goalposts some more.
From the DOE Also for your perusal Go to the lighting section. Here is one of the offending paywall studies. The synopsis says there is some negative effects but it didn't have that magical 100Hz mentioned and I'm not paying to find out- I already know.
And you sir have gotten Yoda's message. You will hate some things, we all do. But like you said it is how we deal with those things that makes us who we are. That was what Yoda was trying to instill in Luke. Luke will hate those things and he will see the evil within but if he let's those drive his actions, he in essence becomes the thing he hates. Of course once you slide on over to the Dark Side, each one of those bad actions becomes easier and easier and eventually you are desensitized. I think that is what was meant when the Jedi say once you go black, you'll never go back.
Oh I am all aboard with you on preventing the raping and killing. That is a desirable goal. Also I cannot refute any statement you made regarding the sliding scale. That is actually how it is. I do not want to repeat historical mistakes though trying to slide the scale back the other way. This whole story is about Somalia, land of anarchy. There is a perfect example of why we shouldn't do that. Definitely NOT desirable.
There is nothing to be forgiven! Daydreaming is healthy and with Slashdot, I kinda equate it to daydreaming out loud. Please continue!
YOUR eyes can't see it. Mine can't either. We know that some people can though. To admit that though, would shake the foundations of your beliefs, much like religion "revelations." There is most likely a perfectly valid reason that this phenomenon exists and we just don't know what it is yet. If you accept that some people have problems with certain frequencies, that doesn't mean you have to throw all of physics out the door.
Oh and I did that experiment years ago with a 555 timer. You can take your arduinio with you when you leave my lawn:)
I doubt the "Prophet" would be displeased. He advocated all kinds of raping and pillaging. But don't let that statement make you think I condone such things. The Christian "God" is also just as murdery. Go read some Deuteronomy sometime. They marched all over the Isreali region and said "worship God or die" and a lot of people did die. Now I guess in the later years we realized that was actually a pretty bad message to be sending to the world so we had to change our image. That is where we get the New Testament and Jesus telling everyone "hey ignore my dad. He's a total dickwad. I bring the love now so the Old Testament can be ignored." Frankly, both religions need to calm the fuck down.
While I share your sentiment, vigilantism is more assuredly worse. That becomes mob rule and it sucks. I also can't neccessarily agree that big punishments stop serial killers and rapists. Those acts are almost always done by mentally broken people who have no idea what is acceptable in society or don't care. Your solution of rehabilitation (mentioned in a diff post) would be more effective in that regard. I would agree that the big punishments though probably do deter "regular" murders. What are those? Back in the day in the wild west, history has portrayed the world as a bunch of gun toting cowboys who would shoot you over a poker game- and get away with it! Whether this is actually true or just a figment of Hollywood I am unsure. But I would posit that events like getting pissed off over a basketball game and running to your car for your gun to shoot the person who "wronged" you could certainly be lower because of that. Things like finding your wife out with another dude at the club and murdering his ass. Many with low testicular fortitude, in this day and age, would just have to skulk away all pissed and deal with it later. But in 1872? I think you could shoot the bastard for it and be vindicated. I do not want to go back to that kind of "justice."
Not only what you said but it also takes the teeth out of the system as a whole and shows it to be farcical. For instance, you get busted for something illegal like selling meth, and the penalty for that is say 5 years. Why would the DA offer you a reduced sentence to 2 years if you rat out your dealer? Sure the dealer might be the bigger fish you wanna fry but by ratting him out, that somehow makes your offense not as bad? Where is the logic there? It makes the system look like some kind of theater instead of a necessary process. I hate theaters!
Though they aren't trying to ban them, merely give you control over the data, the effect is the same. You saw what they did there and if I had mod points I'd give you one!
But why do you sound so resentful and disbelieving of the claims? If he is right and it bothers him but doesn't bother you, what negative things are you gonna have to suffer from to accomodate him? I don't get when people shout down stuff like this. It is a known phenomenon and it only affects a small portion of the population. What's in it for you to prove him wrong?
Why does this appear to be your pet "cause?" You've been shouting it down the whole thread. Maybe you don't have this issue but some people do. It is has been studied and is quantifiable but the cause isn't 100% known. They are a very small minority. It evidently doesn't bother you and it doesn't bother me either. I do get headaches from those 3D glasses and also cheap ass safety glasses. Those are warped lens related issues though I am sure. But I don't see LED tail lights flicker or see LCD screens flicker. It was quite noticable on old CRTs though as many here have pointed out. Something about 60Hz can evidently annoy the shit out of people. Why are you pushing so hard against this?
That is incorrect. Look at the White LED section. One of the characteristics of the doping substance is that emissions in the yellow spectrum have a absense of afterglow and this can be tuned by adjusting the doping mixture.
You keep repeating this. It is incorrect. Look at the White LED section. One of the characteristics of the doping substance is that emissions in the yellow spectrum have a absense of afterglow and this can be tuned by adjusting the doping mixture.
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While you are correct logically, anytime a human & money is involved in the equation logic goes out the window cause we are emotional creatures. So the gov may tell the banks "loan more poor folks money."(which they did). At first many bankers may say exactly what you did "But if we do that we'll go out of business." but when the regulators come back and tell them to do it anyway, make you a pile of cash and we'll deal with the fallout later, what do you expect them to do? Remember we as a society have become a "Fuck you, I got mine" society and so that banker can do 2 things: Sell them loans to poor folks he knows can't pay them back but he will get rich or have a conscience refuse to sell them and then he and his family will go without. Which choice do you think most will take? I hate that it is that way and a majority of our citizens have this fuck you attitude but it was foremost the fault of those regulators who wrote the regulations to force the banks to do thier bidding (not that they really complained that much). How do you think they should have responded?
NO, they **REALLY** do. The lamp may be flickering at 100/120Hz because of the sine wave, but the ballast IS driving it at 50/60Hz. The question was what ballast ever drove lamps at 60Hz. Reactive ballasts do. It says it right there in the paper you linked in the first sentence of "Flicker Eliminated." It is also stated on the next page under "Lower power ballast."
Maybe not scaling up, but have you never been in Windows when it booted into default video mode of 640x480 with a nice big warning box that it just set the res to that but the ok button is way the hell off the bottom of the screen where you can't click it? Seems the default desktop size is either 800x600 or 1024x768 but the failsafe video res is 640x480 so everything is too damned big. And to my dismay, there are still websites that don't fit right unless they are at the res they were programmed for. One even had a picture of a lady waving at you with a caption that stated if you can see her, you need to change your res cause if you don't all thier autopoppin drop down menus wouldn't match the menu bar and some of them disappear off the screen! Upping res should at worst, make things too small to read or click on, but at least it won't disappear off the edge where you'll never find it. If there is still a program that will refuse to even load if the res isn't correct, then it should go away. I haven't ran in to any of those since about Win 98.
You didn't help your cause not one bit. I thought I could show you an article about some TPer saying just that: arrest the gays. You won't like what came up.
Google exactly this: Tea Party arrest the gays
What you will find is a whole lot of TPers who have been arrested for all kinds of fucked up shit: rape, murder, masturbating in front of kids, sexual crimes of all sorts. All kinds of weird shit that yes, any sample of humanity will do regardless of party lines. In the context of cheerleading your team though, you might want to stop that. It makes you guys look like you are sexually repressed pedo's....but hey to your credit, I didn't see any of those sexual crimes perpetrated on gays so if you're gonna rape a kid, at least make sure it's of the opposing sex. What self restraint and commitment to convitions your party has. I am gonna have to make the claim that Mr. Skepticism up there does, indeed, know who they are.
Wow a score 5 for a redneck joke. Let me +5 Informative you: I live in TN outside of a military base and people from up north and out west are just as racist as anyone else around here. IE, some are bad, hateful, useless sacks of meat and some are loving and accepting of other's differences. Some don't give 2 fucks. I know you think Miss has earned it's rep and in ways it has but your post was most definitely a TROLL and if you want to get into a link war on dumb shit found in MS, I can show you a link for damned near any other state. Who wants to go first?
Your sentiment is spot on and I agree wholeheartedly. You got it backwards though. The user doesn't need protection from google, google needs protection from the user! If the n bomb popped up in a google search (as I am sure it used to) and some African-American helicopter momma saw that, you can bet that she'd get an attorney if she were overtly sensitive or someone who thought they just won the lottery. The very fact that they even started censoring stuff like that is probably because they DID get sued by some helicopter mommas. It's simple CYA which to not affect their bottom line, they had to institute. But then your point kicks in and now that they can, they kind of have to. In this case, you know what makes that slope so damned slippery? Money.
WHOOSH! Is this a whoosh moment? This is my first whoosh. Did I do it right? Just in case: thatsthejoke.jpg
To clarify your self fulfilling prophecy statement to other readers, it's like your favorite porn site. Most all of them have a button at the top that will show you the Most Favs, or Highest Views, Most Popular, etc. Have you ever actually clicked on that list? It is almost always the same 30 movies you've already cranked one out to 15 times. Why? Because the counters count the clicks, the views, the likes, etc. So when you watch what everyone else did, you incremented the counter keeping it at the top. Ad Infinitum. I have tried on multiple occasions to rig the system and put something crazy on the favs list like midget clown porn (hilarious fyi!) but I, alone, can't generate enough clicks by myself to get it to the top. Also, my hand goes numb. Some people like to call that game "Stranger" but it feels dead to me and I am not into Zombies or Necro in general. YMMV.
Er wait a minute...this article isn't about Somalia....where the hell did that come from? Oh we have a different article on the front page about Somalia. Keeping up with all these things is difficult especially when you have people 4 threads away screaming for a citation. You got what I meant though!
My response sounded pretty dickish. I have bad communication skills. It's a problem I know. I'm not trying to be that way and I'll tell ya why.
The citation needed shit get on my nerves because, like I said at the end of the post, I already know. Being skeptical seems to be one of those new hipster douche fads. Skepticism is good but these days you can't claim the sky is blue without someone screaming for a citation. One could respond that I don't know shit but I have already studied this subject years ago. That person is the one that doesn't know, they need to educate themselves- ya know be all bootstrappy and stuff. So say someone makes a claim that GWB was caught having sex with a goat and it's on youtube. When I hear something preposterous, I too get skeptical but you know what I do? I go look on youtube. If I can't find that info, then I can come back to the discussion and start asking for citations. Citation needed has been relegated to a synonym for "shut up" and I don't like it.
You citation needed folks get on my nerves, but in my line of work the saying is "show me the data." I have alot of free time so I went ahead and googled it for you. Now most of the studies are behind paywalls and the wiki articles all allude to the problem. You however went ahead and thought you were being clever by quantifying anything over 100Hz. As I said, most of the wiki document alluding to it were behind paywalls but I did find ONE that has a number in it. It's a PDF and it is on slide 2. Go read that and holler back at me. Once you have your revelation, you can accept it as a fact that doesn't mean the end of all physics, or you can move your goalposts some more.
From the DOE
Also for your perusal Go to the lighting section.
Here is one of the offending paywall studies. The synopsis says there is some negative effects but it didn't have that magical 100Hz mentioned and I'm not paying to find out- I already know.
And you sir have gotten Yoda's message. You will hate some things, we all do. But like you said it is how we deal with those things that makes us who we are. That was what Yoda was trying to instill in Luke. Luke will hate those things and he will see the evil within but if he let's those drive his actions, he in essence becomes the thing he hates. Of course once you slide on over to the Dark Side, each one of those bad actions becomes easier and easier and eventually you are desensitized. I think that is what was meant when the Jedi say once you go black, you'll never go back.
Oh I am all aboard with you on preventing the raping and killing. That is a desirable goal. Also I cannot refute any statement you made regarding the sliding scale. That is actually how it is. I do not want to repeat historical mistakes though trying to slide the scale back the other way. This whole story is about Somalia, land of anarchy. There is a perfect example of why we shouldn't do that. Definitely NOT desirable.
There is nothing to be forgiven! Daydreaming is healthy and with Slashdot, I kinda equate it to daydreaming out loud. Please continue!
YOUR eyes can't see it. Mine can't either. We know that some people can though. To admit that though, would shake the foundations of your beliefs, much like religion "revelations." There is most likely a perfectly valid reason that this phenomenon exists and we just don't know what it is yet. If you accept that some people have problems with certain frequencies, that doesn't mean you have to throw all of physics out the door.
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Oh and I did that experiment years ago with a 555 timer. You can take your arduinio with you when you leave my lawn
Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering. Why do you advocate Christians getting angry? It leads to the Dark Side...
I doubt the "Prophet" would be displeased. He advocated all kinds of raping and pillaging. But don't let that statement make you think I condone such things. The Christian "God" is also just as murdery. Go read some Deuteronomy sometime. They marched all over the Isreali region and said "worship God or die" and a lot of people did die. Now I guess in the later years we realized that was actually a pretty bad message to be sending to the world so we had to change our image. That is where we get the New Testament and Jesus telling everyone "hey ignore my dad. He's a total dickwad. I bring the love now so the Old Testament can be ignored." Frankly, both religions need to calm the fuck down.
While I share your sentiment, vigilantism is more assuredly worse. That becomes mob rule and it sucks. I also can't neccessarily agree that big punishments stop serial killers and rapists. Those acts are almost always done by mentally broken people who have no idea what is acceptable in society or don't care. Your solution of rehabilitation (mentioned in a diff post) would be more effective in that regard. I would agree that the big punishments though probably do deter "regular" murders. What are those? Back in the day in the wild west, history has portrayed the world as a bunch of gun toting cowboys who would shoot you over a poker game- and get away with it! Whether this is actually true or just a figment of Hollywood I am unsure. But I would posit that events like getting pissed off over a basketball game and running to your car for your gun to shoot the person who "wronged" you could certainly be lower because of that. Things like finding your wife out with another dude at the club and murdering his ass. Many with low testicular fortitude, in this day and age, would just have to skulk away all pissed and deal with it later. But in 1872? I think you could shoot the bastard for it and be vindicated. I do not want to go back to that kind of "justice."
Not only what you said but it also takes the teeth out of the system as a whole and shows it to be farcical. For instance, you get busted for something illegal like selling meth, and the penalty for that is say 5 years. Why would the DA offer you a reduced sentence to 2 years if you rat out your dealer? Sure the dealer might be the bigger fish you wanna fry but by ratting him out, that somehow makes your offense not as bad? Where is the logic there? It makes the system look like some kind of theater instead of a necessary process. I hate theaters!
Though they aren't trying to ban them, merely give you control over the data, the effect is the same. You saw what they did there and if I had mod points I'd give you one!
Trolls are always trying to light a fire so either is appropriate.
But why do you sound so resentful and disbelieving of the claims? If he is right and it bothers him but doesn't bother you, what negative things are you gonna have to suffer from to accomodate him? I don't get when people shout down stuff like this. It is a known phenomenon and it only affects a small portion of the population. What's in it for you to prove him wrong?
Why does this appear to be your pet "cause?" You've been shouting it down the whole thread. Maybe you don't have this issue but some people do. It is has been studied and is quantifiable but the cause isn't 100% known. They are a very small minority. It evidently doesn't bother you and it doesn't bother me either. I do get headaches from those 3D glasses and also cheap ass safety glasses. Those are warped lens related issues though I am sure. But I don't see LED tail lights flicker or see LCD screens flicker. It was quite noticable on old CRTs though as many here have pointed out. Something about 60Hz can evidently annoy the shit out of people. Why are you pushing so hard against this?
That is incorrect. Look at the White LED section. One of the characteristics of the doping substance is that emissions in the yellow spectrum have a absense of afterglow and this can be tuned by adjusting the doping mixture.
You keep repeating this. It is incorrect. Look at the White LED section. One of the characteristics of the doping substance is that emissions in the yellow spectrum have a absense of afterglow and this can be tuned by adjusting the doping mixture.
Reactive Ballasts do