"There are 5000 developers on the Windows team generating over 50 million lines of code for Windows Server 2003. It's an enormous task, the biggest software engineering task ever attempted. There are no other software projects like this." -Mark Lucovsky
for all their chest beating bravado the lessons of Brooks MMM do not appear to be taken seriously.
after reading the netscape.public.mozilla.rdf and netscape.public.mozilla.xpfe.* groups, countless trawls of the web I finally find an example of remote rdf that works. Thanks for the persistance. I've never bothered posting on the mozilla groups , thinking the solution was already out there. Funny enough I've been to yr bugs page before. Now I can build that funky web app using rdf datasources I've been promising myself.
Lets see If I can use in-memory datasources without bonsaitree.js ?
just tried it out on a freshly installed Moz 1.1 under Windows. It didn't work until I killed all instances of Mozilla and the quick launch as well.
I'll try this. I've been using the MS-Win version so that's why I cannot do this. But with the above info I will download 1.1 and try it. Thanks a lot for this as I abandoned a XP development tool 'cause of no RDF.
tried it - blah. Does not work. The UI appears but is not populated (even with manual override on the prefs file). I'll post if I ever get the begger going correctly.
thanks for this. I'm pretty much in the same boat. I know zope are using moz to do some work in RDF but I did not persist with getting into their CVS to have a look. I'll check out your reference and see what happens.
mozilla with xul/js allow you to build some interesting tools. But try building a simple front end tool that reads a RDF as a remote datasource. I have yet to see an online working example displayed in a tree.
I had to laugh when I stumbled upon Mark Hammonds site and found a mozilla/xul python search page. Quickly I checked the xul source to see if mark used remote RDF only to see the code commented out with a remark along the lines of, 'almost got going'. Marks example works,but like the code I was working on it had to use a different approach.
Basically, we run the site. I don't run the company. I'm not the CFO - that's the person who tracks all of that data
I don't know if I would be comfortable not knowing this type of information. [is your money being used as thier money?] There are distinct advantages in having in-depth, independent grasp of the finances. [you can plan based on facts].
There is no way I would believe what some marketing/business development manager come PHB, would shovel your way [hidden agendas] without an understanding of exactly what financial situation actually is..
there is a place for flash on the web. this has more to do with SVG being a script and the nature of the commercial market. It also has to do with Macromedia selling boxes on the shelves:)
Say you create a shmick commercial SVG site for a paying customer. Opps firstly there's no real browser support for SVG at the moment (forget the plug-in argument) and remember that it's more than likely that the bulk of users are going to stick to their old browsers - (useit.com Stuck With Old Browsers Until 2003) sans an SVG plug-in. So immediatly there's demmand for a SVG-like tool to do animation - this is where Flash fits in.
The reason why commercial op's are going to keep using flash is they want their code wrapped up in a binary format. The first time a competitor/interested party comes up to new site there is the possibility to yoink the plain text script. (havent looked at the spec since 1.0 - is there a binary format possible?)
So there's going to be plenty of room in the market for an open standards (SVG) and closed binary standards (Flash). Different formats for different uses.
This is a great post. I too found plucker mainly because I wanted to use my palm for a web based app I created for shopping lists.
Back-end is Python so I parse an xml file dump from sqlServer and Plucker renders the front end on my palm. The only thing I miss is html form submissions on the client allowing posts back to the website and finally the db to complete the purchases.
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Do you have a lisp? or did you mean "myth". Learn to spell.
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The American's spent tens of thousands of dollars to come up with a pen that would work in the harsh enviroment of outer space: zero-g, temperature changes, uv rays, etc.
The Russians used a pencil.:)
you mean the fisher space pen - AG7, designed to work in zero-g environments. Well may the Russians have used pencils but NASA had these pens for good reasons. Using pencils would result in the astronauts breathing in fine graphite particles:)
Also heres an article describing how Buzz Aldrin used his pen to fire the LM engines to get off the moon.
has no serious hardware advantage to distinguish itself from its competition
disagree with you on this one. there is one advantage that I can think of and thats peripherals.
I remember john carmack talking about console manufacturers dipping their toes into using adding standard hardware (USB mice, HDD, etc.) and potentially running into driver problems. x-box (correct me if I wrong) uses pretty much standard HW and drivers and will have less problems (as much as ms os's permit). there's probably a few other things he mentions (graphics card support, latter release and more processing horsepower, ease of development etc.)
... On the math side, recognizing mathematical notation will be very hard, and would require a lot of work in user interfaces.
I dont have any suggestions for recognition, but display (and possible manipulation) could be MathML. The W3C page describes MathML as...
....a low-level specification for describing mathematics as a basis for machine to machine communication. It provides a much needed foundation for the inclusion of mathematical expressions in Web pages
"The first thing is my ambition to make the whole of Black & White, the AI engine, the 3D engine, the physics engine, open-source. Then anybody can download and use that stuff. To use it in a commercial product, you have to pay us a royalty, but, you know, absolutely free for enthusiasts to use."
couldn't get to the citidal link but the/. comments are there to read.
linux was ported to the playstation to avoid the UK's sales tax
as the previous post mentioned it's yabasic. here's the links. had a play with it but you need a usb kb to do anything useful. the yabasic came on the cd install/demo disk (uk, euro and aus/nz releases only).
"...removing DeCSS and other pieces of software that might put me personally in the position of breaking the Australian Copyright Act (Digital Agenda Bill), 2000..."
I guess you could fight this through the australian legal system but the article goes on to further state the following....
"...Bad juju, legally speaking, is something that I have neither the time, money nor resolve to take on personally. As 2600 Australia is neither a business nor a registered organisation we cannot fight this on legal grounds. 2600 Australia does not enjoy any form of protected speech such as that which 2600 in the USA is mounting a defence...
if they devise an agreed upon DTD that the XML should follow, it is essentially going to produce a new language that authors are going to have to learn
I've never used docBook but your right. users would need an easy to use interface and it doesn't have to be web based.
what I was trying to allude to was architecture. with a solid architecture you can do lots of neat things with data.
here are a few things I'd like to see
supports heirarchy
extendable - so you can expand/grow
efficeint - if it grows real bit you've got to store be able to store it.
standards based - developers can hook into the data and write great tools to manipulate data
editors
trawlers
data mining tools etc...
and so it can be pumped out to different interfaces
html
xml wml etc
searching - needs a suitable search engine for searching. lots of data, a lot of users.
multi-lingual support - dont just want english.
it's important that anyone can add data, but it's critical that the underlying structure can handle the complexity and volume of the data required.
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"There are 5000 developers on the Windows team generating over 50 million lines of code for Windows Server 2003. It's an enormous task, the biggest software engineering task ever attempted. There are no other software projects like this."
-Mark Lucovsky
for all their chest beating bravado the lessons of Brooks MMM do not appear to be taken seriously.
Want to run a simulated S/370 on your linux box?
When a I first read this I thought it was referring to the 1960 'Caper film', The League of Gentlemen directed by Basil Dearden.
Not to be confused with the later 'The League of Gentlemen' nor to be confused with The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. No doubt the latter two are making reference to the *original* starring Jack Hawkins (Ben Hur, The Cruel Sea, a favourite - The Plantation owners wife - curiously renamed, 'Outpost in Malaya'.)
You can read the detailed description here.
add to this a bit of "Microsoft to Buy Rational and/or Borland?" (more informative article article - javatips (66293) ) and you get a better view of the options MS are working on.
.NET and remember Rotor already runs on FreeBSD so borgifiying any of Borlands tools into a XP Visual Studio for Linux gives MS means to kill any competition - (Open source Mono classes). Remember MS's MO is to set and 'own the standard'. Nails get hammered and Mono is a target.
Borland are developing their own architectural solution for
>Anyone with a lower id still around?
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your the man :)
after reading the netscape.public.mozilla.rdf and
netscape.public.mozilla.xpfe.* groups, countless trawls of the web I finally find an example of remote rdf that works. Thanks for the persistance. I've never bothered posting on the mozilla groups , thinking the solution was already out there. Funny enough I've been to yr bugs page before. Now I can build that funky web app using rdf datasources I've been promising myself.
Lets see If I can use in-memory datasources without bonsaitree.js ?
Regs PR
just tried it out on a freshly installed Moz 1.1 under Windows. It didn't work until I killed all instances of Mozilla and the quick launch as well.
I'll try this. I've been using the MS-Win version so that's why I cannot do this. But with the above info I will download 1.1 and try it. Thanks a lot for this as I abandoned a XP development tool 'cause of no RDF.
Regs PR
tried it - blah. Does not work. The UI appears but is not populated (even with manual override on the prefs file). I'll post if I ever get the begger going correctly.
thanks for this. I'm pretty much in the same boat. I know zope are using moz to do some work in RDF but I did not persist with getting into their CVS to have a look. I'll check out your reference and see what happens.
mozilla with xul/js allow you to build some interesting tools. But try building a simple front end tool that reads a RDF as a remote datasource. I have yet to see an online working example displayed in a tree.
/xul python search page. Quickly I checked the xul source to see if mark used remote RDF only to see the code commented out with a remark along the lines of, 'almost got going'. Marks example works ,but like the code I was working on it had to use a different approach.
While the responses on the mozilla newsgroups are excellent (with the actual netscape engineers responsible responding), the lack of consistant *complete working examples* is a pain.
I had to laugh when I stumbled upon Mark Hammonds site and found a mozilla
I just want to to use remote RDF feeds.
Basically, we run the site. I don't run the company. I'm not the CFO - that's the person who tracks all of that data
I don't know if I would be comfortable not knowing this type of information. [is your money being used as thier money?] There are distinct advantages in having in-depth, independent grasp of the finances. [you can plan based on facts].
There is no way I would believe what some marketing/business development manager come PHB, would shovel your way [hidden agendas] without an understanding of exactly what financial situation actually is..
there is a place for flash on the web. this has more to do with SVG being a script and the nature of the commercial market. It also has to do with Macromedia selling boxes on the shelves :)
Say you create a shmick commercial SVG site for a paying customer. Opps firstly there's no real browser support for SVG at the moment (forget the plug-in argument) and remember that it's more than likely that the bulk of users are going to stick to their old browsers - (useit.com Stuck With Old Browsers Until 2003) sans an SVG plug-in. So immediatly there's demmand for a SVG-like tool to do animation - this is where Flash fits in.
The reason why commercial op's are going to keep using flash is they want their code wrapped up in a binary format. The first time a competitor/interested party comes up to new site there is the possibility to yoink the plain text script. (havent looked at the spec since 1.0 - is there a binary format possible?)
So there's going to be plenty of room in the market for an open standards (SVG) and closed binary standards (Flash). Different formats for different uses.
This is a great post. I too found plucker mainly because I wanted to use my palm for a web based app I created for shopping lists.
Back-end is Python so I parse an xml file dump from sqlServer and Plucker renders the front end on my palm. The only thing I miss is html form submissions on the client allowing posts back to the website and finally the db to complete the purchases.
Do you have a lisp? or did you mean "myth". Learn to spell.
The American's spent tens of thousands of dollars to come up with a pen that would work in the harsh enviroment of outer space: zero-g, temperature changes, uv rays, etc.
:)
:)
The Russians used a pencil.
you mean the fisher space pen - AG7, designed to work in zero-g environments. Well may the Russians have used pencils but NASA had these pens for good reasons. Using pencils would result in the astronauts breathing in fine graphite particles
Also heres an article describing how Buzz Aldrin used his pen to fire the LM engines to get off the moon.
http://www.thewritersedge.com/story.main.cfm
As Mike Berniers Lee said "If we had charged for Mosaic nobody would have used it".
who is Mike? A brother of Tim?
Please read this article [att.com] about treating C++ as its own language and not a variation of C. Yes, it's a PDF. Get over it.
or googlise it into html
ps: it's not perfect
doesn't say much for the mySql setup.
much better to post a static page as the previous post suggests rather than a dynamic DB driven page
disagree with you on this one. there is one advantage that I can think of and thats peripherals.
I remember john carmack talking about console manufacturers dipping their toes into using adding standard hardware (USB mice, HDD, etc.) and potentially running into driver problems. x-box (correct me if I wrong) uses pretty much standard HW and drivers and will have less problems (as much as ms os's permit). there's probably a few other things he mentions (graphics card support, latter release and more processing horsepower, ease of development etc.)
check the links.
xbox.consoles-france.com/hardware/ (french - x-late here).
http://www.dailyradar.com/features/game_feature_p
... On the math side, recognizing mathematical notation will be very hard, and would require a lot of work in user interfaces.
...
....a low-level specification for describing mathematics as a basis for machine to machine communication. It provides a much needed foundation for the inclusion of mathematical expressions in Web pages
I dont have any suggestions for recognition, but display (and possible manipulation) could be MathML. The W3C page describes MathML as
Go to the MathML tools page for software tools and specs.
I remember some time ago (e3) there was a /. article speculating b&w going os. Molyneux was quoted at thecitidal.net (by RP) that ....
/. comments are there to read.
"The first thing is my ambition to make the whole of Black & White, the AI engine, the 3D engine, the physics engine, open-source. Then anybody can download and use that stuff. To use it in a commercial product, you have to pay us a royalty, but, you know, absolutely free for enthusiasts to use."
couldn't get to the citidal link but the
yabasic - http://www.yabasic.de/
YabasicPS2 - http://people.a2000.nl/avanarum/YabasicPS2/index.
"...removing DeCSS and other pieces of software that might put me personally in the position of breaking the Australian Copyright Act (Digital Agenda Bill), 2000..."
- I guess you could fight this through the australian legal system but the article goes on to further state the following....
"...Bad juju, legally speaking, is something that I have neither the time, money nor resolve to take on personally. As 2600 Australia is neither a business nor a registered organisation we cannot fight this on legal grounds. 2600 Australia does not enjoy any form of protected speech such as that which 2600 in the USA is mounting a defence...I've never used docBook but your right. users would need an easy to use interface and it doesn't have to be web based.
what I was trying to allude to was architecture. with a solid architecture you can do lots of neat things with data.
here are a few things I'd like to see
- editors
- trawlers
- data mining tools etc...
and so it can be pumped out to different interfaceswml etc
searching - needs a suitable search engine for searching. lots of data, a lot of users.
multi-lingual support - dont just want english.
it's important that anyone can add data, but it's critical that the underlying structure can handle the complexity and volume of the data required.
for these reasons xml is a nice starting point.
screams for something more than html. are there any existing xml dtd's or schemas for organising such information?