I'm planning to stick with the most popular open source OS. I want Linux to succeed both because it's good and because it will topple the closed source Microsoft monopoly.
While I consider myself somewhat of a geek, and fairly adventurous with my computer, I generally want to use what other people are using. It is *nice* to be able to walk into a Software Etc and find something that will work with your computer.
Right now I'm using Linux *in spite* of the fact that I can't do that, because it's the best OS and it's open source. I'm looking forward to the day when everyone else will be using it. And remember, it will still have 100% of it's power and configurability. The true geeks won't be losing anything.
And even if people do want to switch to another open source UNIX, it should be a trivial change since they'll all run Linux binaries.
I'd consider switching only if they offer a real benefit over Linux. I would consider something like a BeOS if it was open sourced, but that seems unlikely.
1. Some things are a bit out of place in a book like this - HTML and CGI for one thing. There are ZILLIONS of books on those, and with PHP or mod_perl, CGI is pretty much irrelevant anyway.
2. It's good about emphasizing differences between Linux and other UNIXes. There aren't many, but it did mention some, as in the select() call. Valuable stuff.
3. Its examples are great when you want to get some code quickly cranked out. You can cut and paste a lot of it into your own programs.
Overall, this and _The C++ Programming Language_ are probably the two best non-O'Reilly computer books.
Linux's GUI is LIGHT YEARS ahead of ANYTHING from M$! Does NT have multiple desktops? Is it themable? What about the ability to run a program on one computer and display it on a second (appearing as though it were actually running on the second).
That last feature leaves Windows+pcAnywhere in the dust.
I agree generally with that philosophy (making Linux more accessible to newbies), but the fact is that Winmodems are 100% Pure Crap(TM). People need to realize that and simply not buy them.
When buying a new computer, BE SURE you're not getting a LoseModem!
I don't see anything wrong with this. It just screws over people stupid enough to use non-free software.:-)
If I'm going to get mad and write my rep about something, it will probably be over encryption export controls... now THAT is true stupidity.
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Simple. The reverse engineering team would be outside the US. I assume there's no restrictions on importing code that was written by overseas peoples' efforts.
They'd have to hire 3-5 more people for a full Linux port, but it would be worth it to them.
They'd probably sell 20-50K copies in a year or two. Much more down the road as Linux gains in popularity (and it will).
And supporting Linux would make all the sense in the world for them to do. Right now they're barely managing to stay ahead of M$ at its own game (Win and Mac software). It's highly unlikely that we'll see a M$ Money for Linux for a LONG time (we will, of course, when Linux achieves Domination(TM)), so Intuit could have a couple years' head start.
No. Turbo Pascal, at least, optimized fairly well. It also came with a "smart linker" that stripped out unused code. You could write a 2K "Hello World" program with TP. With TC,I think it was about 12K.
With BP7, I wrote an object oriented math package that could symbolically take the derivative of functions, and graph them along with the derivative. EXE size: about 100K.
(I've sinced open sourced it and am converting it to C++. Get it at http://cvs.seul.org/~yoderm )
Right, and one more reason M$ is dominant in the USA more than the rest of the world is because M$ is a USA company. There's just something about buying American...
Actually it is a pretty good deal for us Americans. If it weren't for M$, our trade deficit would probably be much higher!
But do we still want to keep them around? Naahhh...
I once E-mailed Brad Wardell about a Linux port of Entrepreneur. He said they really weren't considering Linux. I forget the reasons. That was well over a year ago. I bet they're reconsidering by now.
Too bad... Entrepreneur is about the only thing I still boot into that other OS (OS/2) for...
It will rollercoaster up and down for a while. If you bought it in the $80s (like me) a few minutes after market open, don't panic. I think it will hit that level again.
They do have several money making possibilities, and with these kinds of stocks they can make an announcement that will send the shares through the roof.
I *tried* to put in an order before it started trading (even after the market openned) and it wouldn't let me do it until it started trading. I use Datek. Did anyone else manage to put in an order before trading started (about noon EDT)?
And yes, I lost money. Quite a bit in fact.:-(
Mental note to self: Next time, if it opens at exorbitant prices, WAIT BEFORE BUYING...
#1. Reading the handwriting of some people is really hard. I like computer screens
#2. Snail Mail: 33 cents. E-mail: Free
#3. Snail Mail: 2-4 days. E-mail: Instantaneous
#4. To reply to snail mail, you have to run around the house searching for pens, paper, envelopes, stamps, and your address book. Then you have to use a PEN and WRITE! That takes WAY longer than typing.
Good grief. Spam is sending bulk E-mail to people who don't give a flying crap about what you have to sell or say.
Red Hat's mail was targetted to people who have actually contributed the THEIR OWN success. This is a big thank you to the open source community from Red Hat, and they are VERY cool for doing it!
Just wish I got one (but then, my contributions aren't particularly big)...
Now we have proof! They're trying to get Debian devotees to invest in RedHat, making it against their interest to continue developing for Debian, their competition! Does it get more Microsoftian than that???
BTW... I'm ***JUST KIDDING*** Red Hat is a great company.
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I'm planning to stick with the most popular open source OS. I want Linux to succeed both because it's good and because it will topple the closed source Microsoft monopoly.
While I consider myself somewhat of a geek, and fairly adventurous with my computer, I generally want to use what other people are using. It is *nice* to be able to walk into a Software Etc and find something that will work with your computer.
Right now I'm using Linux *in spite* of the fact that I can't do that, because it's the best OS and it's open source. I'm looking forward to the day when everyone else will be using it. And remember, it will still have 100% of it's power and configurability. The true geeks won't be losing anything.
And even if people do want to switch to another open source UNIX, it should be a trivial change since they'll all run Linux binaries.
I'd consider switching only if they offer a real benefit over Linux. I would consider something like a BeOS if it was open sourced, but that seems unlikely.
Other comments...
1. Some things are a bit out of place in a book like this - HTML and CGI for one thing. There are ZILLIONS of books on those, and with PHP or mod_perl, CGI is pretty much irrelevant anyway.
2. It's good about emphasizing differences between Linux and other UNIXes. There aren't many, but it did mention some, as in the select() call. Valuable stuff.
3. Its examples are great when you want to get some code quickly cranked out. You can cut and paste a lot of it into your own programs.
Overall, this and _The C++ Programming Language_ are probably the two best non-O'Reilly computer books.
It's been several months since I read the book, but I don't remember it making any (or much) use of linux.h at all.
It also clearly explained the different symantics of the select() call between Linux and other UNIXes. That emphasized portability nicely IMHO.
I can't even get it to DNS resolve. What gives? Surely noone hacked their DNS servers.... ???
I hate Microsoft for their business practices. The fact that their software sucks is a side benefit...
KDE has been easier than Windows for about a year now already... where have you been?
Oh come ON!
Linux's GUI is LIGHT YEARS ahead of ANYTHING from M$! Does NT have multiple desktops? Is it themable? What about the ability to run a program on one computer and display it on a second (appearing as though it were actually running on the second).
That last feature leaves Windows+pcAnywhere in the dust.
I agree generally with that philosophy (making Linux more accessible to newbies), but the fact is that Winmodems are 100% Pure Crap(TM). People need to realize that and simply not buy them.
When buying a new computer, BE SURE you're not getting a LoseModem!
Guam?
I don't see anything wrong with this. It just screws over people stupid enough to use non-free software. :-)
If I'm going to get mad and write my rep about something, it will probably be over encryption export controls... now THAT is true stupidity.
Simple. The reverse engineering team would be outside the US. I assume there's no restrictions on importing code that was written by overseas peoples' efforts.
They'd have to hire 3-5 more people for a full Linux port, but it would be worth it to them.
They'd probably sell 20-50K copies in a year or two. Much more down the road as Linux gains in popularity (and it will).
And supporting Linux would make all the sense in the world for them to do. Right now they're barely managing to stay ahead of M$ at its own game (Win and Mac software). It's highly unlikely that we'll see a M$ Money for Linux for a LONG time (we will, of course, when Linux achieves Domination(TM)), so Intuit could have a couple years' head start.
No. Turbo Pascal, at least, optimized fairly well. It also came with a "smart linker" that stripped out unused code. You could write a 2K "Hello World" program with TP. With TC,I think it was about 12K.
With BP7, I wrote an object oriented math package that could symbolically take the derivative of functions, and graph them along with the derivative. EXE size: about 100K.
(I've sinced open sourced it and am converting it to C++. Get it at http://cvs.seul.org/~yoderm )
Sure it is. An erroneous statement was made about Christianity and this guy corrected it. What's wrong with that?
Why don't you try WATCHING it? You might LEARN something...
Right, and one more reason M$ is dominant in the USA more than the rest of the world is because M$ is a USA company. There's just something about buying American...
Actually it is a pretty good deal for us Americans. If it weren't for M$, our trade deficit would probably be much higher!
But do we still want to keep them around? Naahhh...
I once E-mailed Brad Wardell about a Linux port of Entrepreneur. He said they really weren't considering Linux. I forget the reasons. That was well over a year ago. I bet they're reconsidering by now.
Too bad... Entrepreneur is about the only thing I still boot into that other OS (OS/2) for...
It will rollercoaster up and down for a while. If you bought it in the $80s (like me) a few minutes after market open, don't panic. I think it will hit that level again.
They do have several money making possibilities, and with these kinds of stocks they can make an announcement that will send the shares through the roof.
I *tried* to put in an order before it started trading (even after the market openned) and it wouldn't let me do it until it started trading. I use Datek. Did anyone else manage to put in an order before trading started (about noon EDT)?
:-(
And yes, I lost money. Quite a bit in fact.
Mental note to self: Next time, if it opens at exorbitant prices, WAIT BEFORE BUYING...
I just saw RH6 for $59 at Costco. Right next to it was Mandrake 6 for $25.
:-)
And right next to that was Win98 SE. *EACH* of the Linux distros had more boxes than Win98!!!
No way!
#1. Reading the handwriting of some people is really hard. I like computer screens
#2. Snail Mail: 33 cents. E-mail: Free
#3. Snail Mail: 2-4 days. E-mail: Instantaneous
#4. To reply to snail mail, you have to run around the house searching for pens, paper, envelopes, stamps, and your address book. Then you have to use a PEN and WRITE! That takes WAY longer than typing.
Their business will go down, but the USPS is still good for some things.
I just sent a package to Puerto Rico, and UPS would have charged $18. The USPS charged under $5! (UPS=2 days, USPS=3 days)
And who else is going to carry all the crappy glossy PCMall catalogs we all get???
Tomorrow the MP3.COM IPO starts trading!!!
That one should be good for a quick buck if I buy it a minute after openning and sell at the end of the day....
Good grief. Spam is sending bulk E-mail to people who don't give a flying crap about what you have to sell or say.
Red Hat's mail was targetted to people who have actually contributed the THEIR OWN success. This is a big thank you to the open source community from Red Hat, and they are VERY cool for doing it!
Just wish I got one (but then, my contributions aren't particularly big)...
Now we have proof! They're trying to get Debian devotees to invest in RedHat, making it against their interest to continue developing for Debian, their competition! Does it get more Microsoftian than that???
BTW... I'm ***JUST KIDDING*** Red Hat is a great company.