I think they would get the exemption. All to often business interests win out. I wouldn't be happy with it, but it's how I expect the issue will play out. At this point, we're talking a lot of ifs, since I'm not even sure this whole drone thing is feasible or practical. It's certainly interesting and raises quite a few discussion points. Maybe I'm just cynical for thinking that business interests will win out in this case.
I think it's safe to say that drones are not going to be shot down over a city without drawing a lot of unwanted attention. You don't commonly see people out shooting in public, and those very few who do are quickly dealt with. There is also an impractical side to shooting them down, you'd need to know the flight paths and schedules and then camp the flight path if there is no set schedule. Someone is going to report a man sitting on his porch with a shotgun, at least in Canada anyway. As another poster pointed out, it's just posturing for anyone to say they are going to shoot down the drones. Before anyone counters about shooting them down out in the countryside, it would be impractical and I don't think Amazon will use drones for rural delivery.
Noise exemptions are made for businesses. Here in my city, contracted snow removal received a noise exemption in order to do private snow removal from commercial lots after midnight. Local residents fought against it because the noise is horrible, but the city said it was impractical to remove the snow during business hours.
I don't know of any school boards in my province that pay so little. We pay on the upper end at about $50k for technicians and that's salary not hourly. We were only paying $35k three years ago, but we couldn't get staff to stick around longer than a couple years for the experience. Our technicians need to be skilled but they don't touch AD or any of the back end systems other than for backup and other standard ops stuff. We do require college grads and proof they can think for themselves though.
Says the guy that is exactly as I suspected. You're a tech working in a shop. At best you own a shop. Do you sell office furniture to prop up your failing business as Walmart undercuts your sales? What did you expect. You took off the wall potshots at a guy working a career, when your just a pup working a job. We get guys like you all the time applying, thinking they know everything, thinking they are IT geniuses, who can't see their own weaknesses. Desperate to get out of sales, running simple automated tools and "building pc". Nothing wrong with starting out there, but you strike me as a lifer, if it weren't for the fact that independent shops have a bleak future. But yeah, tell me where your shop is and I'll take you out for lunch and offer some career coaching while I'm off for the summer...paid time off.
I don't know what motivates a comment like that. Trolling? Meh, I know the truth about how much I make and my benefits so at the end of the day I'm smiling. Ignorance? Possible, I'm Canadian, maybe where he is that is the norm, but it's not here. Bitterness/Resentment? Maybe he's Geeksquad and it makes him feel better to try to belittle someone else's career. In any case, this situation had the potential to be much smaller and much less of a problem.
We are just too small for much of that. Clonezilla works for us because we can do a whole lab at once (our biggest school is a couple hundred kids, our smallest is about 60). Our schools are geographically spread out and remote. We don't have the budget for deepfreeze, let alone Config Manager. We don't have a huge budget but we get by, we take the financial resources we have and pour that into talented techs. We use Squid/squidguard/dansguardian for filtering/caching to save money, we get computers from free programs that redistribute government computers (we get modern machines like i5). Believe me, that all sounds fantastic but we have to make due with much much less and we do. This situation in NJ didn't need to be this way. You've got the right idea and I don't disagree with much other than the MITM stuff, but we will likely never see the money for those kinds of resources. We had a budget for deepfreeze but then we got our gov't funding reduced a bit and it was the first to go.
That is a lot of incorrect assumptions there. We have bright technicians working for us, we have enough staff to stay on top of things, we offer competitive pay with benefits and matched pension contribution and generous time off. We expect a lot from our staff and we get a lot in return. Higher demand than corporate? Bullshit, complete bullshit. I'm sure there are some grossly under-funded school boards out there, but mine isn't one of them. Sounds like you're the one that needs the breakdown because you haven't got a clue. I'll give you points for a good troll though, you actually put a little effort into that one.
True enough, but there are open source resources out there. Clonzilla for imaging and lets be honest here, the desktops the students use should be imaged, it's not difficult to manage and it's the best response infection as far as cost goes. Money can be an issue for sure and bureaucracy can get in the way of best practices. But there should be system separation. The computers the kids use should not be using the same resources as the student data system, the cafeteria system should also be isolated. But all that said, the fact is if this happened to my school board, I would be out of a job.
No backup system to restore from? Systems linked that should not be linked together? As for classroom computers, fuck it, reimage those suckers. This should not be happening and in the IT dept. heads need to roll. I'm head of IT for a school board and I'm telling you that this should not have happened or at the very least the affected number of computers should be much lower.
I've been receiving batches of HP Probooks that have secureboot turned off by default. For the past couple years my staff had to turn off secureboot and uefi manually. I don't know if it's just HP or other manufacturers.
Seems like it would be a great website but I've tried two different devices on two different connections and both times the website wouldn't accept my report and said I can only report 2/hour even though I haven't.
I can see them from Mid-Western Saskatchewan. Brilliant green flowing across the skyline. We watched them from the edge of the city for about an hour tonight. You could see them even in the city with street lights on. Then they just disappeared very abruptly
You know, I never noticed that I don't stutter when I speak Spanish or German. I will try to be more mindful to see if the same is true. It could be that I don't speak those other languages often enough or for that matter when I'm tired or upset.
Holy fuck that's awful. In my case getting emotional or upset only made my stutter worse. My parents never made a big deal of it, really they mostly ignored it and were patient while I worked out how to say what I was trying to communicate.
Yes. Most of the time I don't stutter at all, but when I get emotional or too tired I stammer. I'm intrigued by the anecdote of the man who could sing clearly but couldn't speak normally without stuttering.
I disagree, it doesn't mean it's not worth discussing. All to often someone thinks it's clever to shut down all discussion with that phrase. Adults discuss many things that are so called first world problems.
I honestly don't really give a flying fuck what annoys you. Eat a bag of dicks you uptight, mouldy, foreskin jerky.
didn't the pranks stop at noon? Stop breaking the April Fools Rules!
Sure, but in this case I was responding to Toshito who specifically mentioned using a shotgun.
I think they would get the exemption. All to often business interests win out. I wouldn't be happy with it, but it's how I expect the issue will play out. At this point, we're talking a lot of ifs, since I'm not even sure this whole drone thing is feasible or practical. It's certainly interesting and raises quite a few discussion points. Maybe I'm just cynical for thinking that business interests will win out in this case.
That wouldn't fly in Canada.
I think it's safe to say that drones are not going to be shot down over a city without drawing a lot of unwanted attention. You don't commonly see people out shooting in public, and those very few who do are quickly dealt with. There is also an impractical side to shooting them down, you'd need to know the flight paths and schedules and then camp the flight path if there is no set schedule. Someone is going to report a man sitting on his porch with a shotgun, at least in Canada anyway. As another poster pointed out, it's just posturing for anyone to say they are going to shoot down the drones. Before anyone counters about shooting them down out in the countryside, it would be impractical and I don't think Amazon will use drones for rural delivery.
Noise exemptions are made for businesses. Here in my city, contracted snow removal received a noise exemption in order to do private snow removal from commercial lots after midnight. Local residents fought against it because the noise is horrible, but the city said it was impractical to remove the snow during business hours.
I don't know of any school boards in my province that pay so little. We pay on the upper end at about $50k for technicians and that's salary not hourly. We were only paying $35k three years ago, but we couldn't get staff to stick around longer than a couple years for the experience. Our technicians need to be skilled but they don't touch AD or any of the back end systems other than for backup and other standard ops stuff. We do require college grads and proof they can think for themselves though.
Says the guy that is exactly as I suspected. You're a tech working in a shop. At best you own a shop. Do you sell office furniture to prop up your failing business as Walmart undercuts your sales? What did you expect. You took off the wall potshots at a guy working a career, when your just a pup working a job. We get guys like you all the time applying, thinking they know everything, thinking they are IT geniuses, who can't see their own weaknesses. Desperate to get out of sales, running simple automated tools and "building pc". Nothing wrong with starting out there, but you strike me as a lifer, if it weren't for the fact that independent shops have a bleak future. But yeah, tell me where your shop is and I'll take you out for lunch and offer some career coaching while I'm off for the summer...paid time off.
I don't know what motivates a comment like that. Trolling? Meh, I know the truth about how much I make and my benefits so at the end of the day I'm smiling. Ignorance? Possible, I'm Canadian, maybe where he is that is the norm, but it's not here. Bitterness/Resentment? Maybe he's Geeksquad and it makes him feel better to try to belittle someone else's career. In any case, this situation had the potential to be much smaller and much less of a problem.
We are just too small for much of that. Clonezilla works for us because we can do a whole lab at once (our biggest school is a couple hundred kids, our smallest is about 60). Our schools are geographically spread out and remote. We don't have the budget for deepfreeze, let alone Config Manager. We don't have a huge budget but we get by, we take the financial resources we have and pour that into talented techs. We use Squid/squidguard/dansguardian for filtering/caching to save money, we get computers from free programs that redistribute government computers (we get modern machines like i5). Believe me, that all sounds fantastic but we have to make due with much much less and we do. This situation in NJ didn't need to be this way. You've got the right idea and I don't disagree with much other than the MITM stuff, but we will likely never see the money for those kinds of resources. We had a budget for deepfreeze but then we got our gov't funding reduced a bit and it was the first to go.
But you know that's exactly who it will be pinned on.
That is a lot of incorrect assumptions there. We have bright technicians working for us, we have enough staff to stay on top of things, we offer competitive pay with benefits and matched pension contribution and generous time off. We expect a lot from our staff and we get a lot in return. Higher demand than corporate? Bullshit, complete bullshit. I'm sure there are some grossly under-funded school boards out there, but mine isn't one of them. Sounds like you're the one that needs the breakdown because you haven't got a clue. I'll give you points for a good troll though, you actually put a little effort into that one.
True enough, but there are open source resources out there. Clonzilla for imaging and lets be honest here, the desktops the students use should be imaged, it's not difficult to manage and it's the best response infection as far as cost goes. Money can be an issue for sure and bureaucracy can get in the way of best practices. But there should be system separation. The computers the kids use should not be using the same resources as the student data system, the cafeteria system should also be isolated. But all that said, the fact is if this happened to my school board, I would be out of a job.
No backup system to restore from? Systems linked that should not be linked together? As for classroom computers, fuck it, reimage those suckers. This should not be happening and in the IT dept. heads need to roll. I'm head of IT for a school board and I'm telling you that this should not have happened or at the very least the affected number of computers should be much lower.
No it doesn't but it could. I'm sure there are modders out there that would be up to the challenge of swapping a Subaru engine into a toyota.
I've been receiving batches of HP Probooks that have secureboot turned off by default. For the past couple years my staff had to turn off secureboot and uefi manually. I don't know if it's just HP or other manufacturers.
Seems like it would be a great website but I've tried two different devices on two different connections and both times the website wouldn't accept my report and said I can only report 2/hour even though I haven't.
I can see them from Mid-Western Saskatchewan. Brilliant green flowing across the skyline. We watched them from the edge of the city for about an hour tonight. You could see them even in the city with street lights on. Then they just disappeared very abruptly
Everyone send one Spocked Canadian $5 bill to each of those charities.
I'm right handed and wear my watch on my right hand, it feels wrong on my left, always has.
You know, I never noticed that I don't stutter when I speak Spanish or German. I will try to be more mindful to see if the same is true. It could be that I don't speak those other languages often enough or for that matter when I'm tired or upset.
Holy fuck that's awful. In my case getting emotional or upset only made my stutter worse. My parents never made a big deal of it, really they mostly ignored it and were patient while I worked out how to say what I was trying to communicate.
Yes. Most of the time I don't stutter at all, but when I get emotional or too tired I stammer. I'm intrigued by the anecdote of the man who could sing clearly but couldn't speak normally without stuttering.
I disagree, it doesn't mean it's not worth discussing. All to often someone thinks it's clever to shut down all discussion with that phrase. Adults discuss many things that are so called first world problems.