Really ideas are cheap. A better social networking site than Facebook... An electric car that can charge in 5 mintes, go 300 miles on charge, and costs $20,000 A no fat chocolate.
I would say that your objections apply to you arguments. But let me give you the clincher to prove that it was a military intelligence error and not a great conspiracy. They didn't find any! If they had faked it they would have kept on faking it. They would have found Nuclear weapon parts, chemical weapons, and bio agents. I mean if you are going to lie then make it a good one! I mean really if they lied about it all they would have planted weapons! I mean really think about it.
It would be so easy to plane WMDs really. Iraq had a lot of Chemical weapons. So just plant a good amount more. Bio weapons? Again not hard to make so just plant some. A nuclear weapon. That is probably the easiest one. Just plant some gun type weapons without cores and or some implosion devices without cores. Throw in some raw uranium cores or some badly enriched cores. "There you see Iraq was trying to build nuclear weapon but we stopped them in time." It really would have been that simple and I am not that into tricking people but I could have done a better job at this than if the US had tried to do what you suggest.
You believe that Bush was lying. And it is human nature to want to blame people for being evil. Truth is that probably Gore would have done the same thing with the same data. Combine Iraq not cooperating with September 11th and you have a perfect storm of a really pissed off US that was in no mood to put up Iraq. Both parties overwhelming voted for it. What you have was exactly what I said. All the real evidence points to a military intelligence failure and not a conspiracy.
It is the simplest, most documented, and most likely cause. Just as the US military over estimated the performance USSRs Alpha subs and Bison Bombers, the USSR over estimated the USs ability to build SDI, and the UK actually believed that Germany wouldn't attack Poland. Nations often really do blow it.
Dude Google Montauk mind control. Yea so easy to manipulate. Sheep.. Last person that called me that was some guy that was trying to argue that aliens from outer space where running round on heart.
troll.. I use no foul language that the statement on WMD was from Husssein himself.
Please just keep up with the tin hat theories. But here is the simple argument. If the US knew that there where no WMDs and this was all a plot why didn't they find any? I mean really the US has nuclear weapons and even has cores from old soviet weapons on hand. We also had access to lots of chemical weapons that where where in the middle of destroying at the time. So if this was all a plot then why didn't we find any? Think about it if you where going to pull this off wouldn't you have planted stuff to justify the attack? I mean really? Your theory is that they US is evil, corrupt, all power full, manipulative and yet totally incompetent.
That just doesn't make any sense! If it was faked from the start they would have actually found stuff because they would have planted it!
There is a "low" end System Z both for the 9 and 10. According to IBM they start at around $100,000. while not cheap is a lot less than millions of dollars. And let's not forget things like development, testing, and even legacy systems that people may be sill running. I am sure that there is more 370 and 390 code still running that any of us wants to think about.
Reliability is a given. There are few things in this life that are as Reliable as a well maintained Z Series. But Intel based servers are getting very good at up time these days. Redundant power supplies and RAID arrays go a long way. Don't get me wrong. They are not as reliable as an IBM mainframe. Heck you can hot swap CPUS on those things but they are pretty good. Herc on a PC could replace some smaller mainframes. A company might decided that the uptime of their windows servers is now good enough for their needs so they can migrate away from mainframes. Plus as more mainframe style apps are moved to Wintel you will companies offer more mainframe style hardware features for the platform. Some of the new serves have some pretty advanced management features now.
From the Powell story. "After searching Iraq for several months across the summer of 2003, Kay began e-mailing Tenet to tell him the WMD evidence was falling apart. At one point, Wilkerson says, Tenet called Powell to tell him the claims about mobile bioweapons labs were apparently not true."
Which actually backs up my statement that they Iraq succeed in tricking the US.
No only that but this was not a statement made by Powell. This is by an unnamed staff member from a democratic administration with NO proof. You find it highly creditable because because you believe that it backs up your world view.
And the second story has nothing to do with the US. "Giving evidence to a parliamentary inquiry, Mr Wilkie said the prime minister's office was to blame for distorting intelligence and exaggerating the threat posed by Iraq." That is Australian prime minister. And if you read the entire document I suggest you look at the last three lines.
""I deny that absolutely," he said of Mr Wilkie's charge that the government skewed the truth and misled the people.
"I don't know on what he bases those claims, if he has got evidence of that let him produce it, otherwise stop slandering decent people."
Mr Howard said ONA had indicated that Mr Wilkie had virtually no access to the relevant intelligence."
Some one made some claims that of wrong doing but has no proof.
Actually you will not loose too much if any performance depending on which zSeries you are using. Of course Microsoft would have to write a compatibility layer on top of the hardware emulator for a complete solution.
"You would like to believe that the brightest military minds in the world were duped into invading Iraq?
Truly you are naive."
Yes. Because if they knew from the start they where making it all up they would have made sure they found them. You must be naive that they would cook up such a plan and not have preplanned to place weapons to find? The US has enough nerve gas and nuclear weapons that they could have planted a few gun assemblies or implosion shells to find. Please you are working on the premiss that the US is so corrupt, evil, and twisted that they would come up with this plan but at the same time so stupid that they wouldn't make even a token effort at pulling it off!
And then with President Obama in the White House that he wouldn't blast the GOP with facts that Bush planned it all? Yea.... I know it was the Masons that did it.
Wow... Okay we all know the truth about Iraq but very few people want to admit it. Here is what happened in Iraq. Saddam Husain made an error. He faked a weapons of mass production program. He feared Iran more than the US. The facts are that Iraq had a chemical and a nuclear weapons program before the first Iraq war. That is an absolute fact. Iraq didn't cooperate with the UN inspectors fully. The US and other countries believed the lie that they where told. This is all documented but not very sexy. It is so much more fun to make the US into a great villan instead of saying that they and other nations messed up.
What I find so funny is that so many people will not place the blame of their own governments choices on their own government. I bet right now a lot of people are saying that the US is making Sweden go after Assage. Or some other silliness.
What if it is a Microsoft supported and endorsed Herc/Win box? I think you may be under estimating how much trust people have in Microsoft. And people are already using Herc for things like development and yes even for replacing older mainframes.
If the courts make IBM give in this could be huge for Microsoft. Turbo Hercules could be used to make an easy migration to Windows. Or maybe Microsoft will make an IBM mainframe compatibility layer like the Posix layar using Turbo Hercules? If you could run your mainframe software on a Windows server things would really start to suck for IBM.
Gee a germ that uses poison for it's DNA! This is how the Zombie Apocalypse will start. Boy am I glad I put my 401k into Remingoton and Campbell's soup.
Intellectual property is an example of something it is hard to create and now easy to duplicate. If you want people to keep creating you must make it worth their while. The fact is most authors do not become rich from their work. Even one like Greg Bear is probably comfortable at best but I doubt that he is what most people think of as rich.
It is that simple we do have laws that cover this. If you want those laws to be differn't change them. I would love to see the Bono/Disney extension overturned. However it is wrong to just ignore someones rights under the law just so you can have free stuff.
Your right. I really didn't make it very clear that I was agreeing with you. I was talking about summary where has this line in it. ". The once deadly wasteland of the Sahara now looks like a land rich in an important resource: sunlight.""
You are right in all counts and I was agreeing with you. All to often when I hear about solar projects in the desert people talk like it is a sterile environment that humans can only improve. My bad for not making it clear that I was agreeing with you about the people being upset about the impact and at the same time voice my dislike about summary.
I am not an Ecco anything but to be honest this kind of thing statement seems so dumb that it makes my head hurt. Deserts are not useless. They are an ecosystem just like a rain forest, coral reef, river, or prairie. And at some point in history we have decided that the useless and dangerous rain forest needed to be cut down to make product farm land, the river needed to be dammed so the water wouldn't be wasted, the dangerous reef had to be cut so ship didn't wreck, and the useless barren prairie needed to be plowed under to become product farm land. This may be a good idea but the attitude seems like the same old attitude that caused the dust bowl. Of course for the US the American SW would seem like a much better and more secure location for such a project.
"Your first mistake is assuming that intellectual property is real." Spoken like someone that has never created a real program or book in their life. It takes real effort to make something like a novel or a good program. Some people including myself will choose to release things under the GPL. Other do not. But since there as century of law saying that IP is real you are living in a useless little fantasy. I so would love to see you argue that one in court someday.
Well sparky it takes real work to make a novel. There is nothing fictitious about it. I am all for keeping the copyright laws where they where before the Bono law and in line with the rest of the world. Simple solution if you don't like it don't read their works. Write your own and put them in the public domain when you want to.
ahhh.. No but no one else seemed to get it... The rest of the comment was serious but yea I fear I aimed too high with the Hurd joke. But you know from the description of the error I think that GNU really does to start running Hurd on the Savannah project...
Cool so when your parents die I will just take their stuff. I am sure that they will have something cool. After all you don't want to live or even benfit from any of their work. And my kids will take your stuff. Since you find it so distasteful I will be glad to help you out.
So if you buy a rental property your kids of wife shouldn't get it when you die? If you you managed to start and run a pluming company they shouldn't get that? You are mistaking work for hire. If are paid X to write something and it is a work for hire then they people that paid you for it get the copy right. AKA getting paid to put in pipes. When you publish a book you get royalties and keep the copyright. The same as spending your own time and money to build a house and then renting it out. The difference here is after a period of time your family will loose the income stream when you work enters the public domain.
"1) The works aren't exactly making a ton of money or circulation." Lots of authors are making money by selling long out of publication works as ebooks. The ease of making an Ebook and the low cost means that a lot of works that where not available are again. This in fringes on their rights to do that. Also some people don't like their own early works. They find it embarrassing so they want it out of circulation. That is their right.
"2) They got paid when they sold the books for quite some time, why not give that money to their kids?" Who died and made you God? Really when you die why don't I just come and take all your stuff? I mean your kids don't need what you worked for? Or better when your parents die I will take all their stuff since you don't deserve it?
"3) How many jobs keep paying you money after you've died? Why do authors deserve this special privilege?" Anybody that has formed a company and left stock to their kids. Anybody that invested and left the investments to their kids. Landlords. The list can go on and on. Being an author is different than most jobs. It is really a very high risk investment. You invest a lot of time and effort with little chance of even breaking even. Some authors get lucky and make a living from it and a very very few get super rick. Most are lucky to just get by. Those that make some money from that investment want their kids to benefit. While I agree that the current time copyright length is not a good thing the authors life + 50 years seems fair. Think of it as a compromise. If the author had spent that year building a house instead of writing the book would you want to take that home away from his family? I mean it is the same argument. Why should someone's family continue to benefit from their work after their death? What is the difference between spending a year writing a book or a year spent building a home that they can rent for income? But for the most part your statement is not commonsense, it is justification. You want free stuff. It is simple greed on your part. You want something without working for it.
That is why I said most. The Galaxy is the only one I know that does have the market. I am not sure if the requirement is 3G data or maybe you can make calls for the Galaxy? Google may also require GPS,compass , and or a camera for all I know. Which may be why the Galaxy tablet is so expensive and why the app market might not be an option for the Nook.
I found it interesting that you didn't like that saving it to the cloud was just like saving it to your drive or local server. In an ideal world that is the way it should work but as you pointed out we are not there yet.
I have to admit that I like apps on my computer but I also really like using "cloud" based systems as well. Google Calendar works great for our needs. We use OO.org and OWL for our document database.
What I would love to see is Google take over a fork of OO and have it sync with Google docs.
IMHO where Microsoft is going to miss out is with startups. The next Amazon, Google, Facebook, and Twitter are all going to start with Google Docs, Gmail and goodness knows what else. They are not going to start off with Microsoft Office. The end result will be that they will grow up with Google just like the generation before grew up with Office. But that is must my prediction. Heck I still use JOE when I with Linux config files because I grew up with WordStar and Turbo Pascal... Microsoft do you remember WordStar and Visicalc? How about WordPerfect and Lotus 123?
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No ideas alone are just fantasy.
It takes knowledge, skill, tallent, and hard work to make them worth anything.
It really is all about the execution. Now if you have an idea and then build a plan around it that maybe worth something.
Really ideas are cheap.
A better social networking site than Facebook...
An electric car that can charge in 5 mintes, go 300 miles on charge, and costs $20,000
A no fat chocolate.
I would say that your objections apply to you arguments.
But let me give you the clincher to prove that it was a military intelligence error and not a great conspiracy.
They didn't find any!
If they had faked it they would have kept on faking it. They would have found Nuclear weapon parts, chemical weapons, and bio agents.
I mean if you are going to lie then make it a good one! I mean really if they lied about it all they would have planted weapons!
I mean really think about it.
It would be so easy to plane WMDs really. Iraq had a lot of Chemical weapons. So just plant a good amount more. Bio weapons? Again not hard to make so just plant some.
A nuclear weapon. That is probably the easiest one. Just plant some gun type weapons without cores and or some implosion devices without cores. Throw in some raw uranium cores or some badly enriched cores.
"There you see Iraq was trying to build nuclear weapon but we stopped them in time."
It really would have been that simple and I am not that into tricking people but I could have done a better job at this than if the US had tried to do what you suggest.
You believe that Bush was lying. And it is human nature to want to blame people for being evil. Truth is that probably Gore would have done the same thing with the same data. Combine Iraq not cooperating with September 11th and you have a perfect storm of a really pissed off US that was in no mood to put up Iraq. Both parties overwhelming voted for it.
What you have was exactly what I said. All the real evidence points to a military intelligence failure and not a conspiracy.
It is the simplest, most documented, and most likely cause. Just as the US military over estimated the performance USSRs Alpha subs and Bison Bombers, the USSR over estimated the USs ability to build SDI, and the UK actually believed that Germany wouldn't attack Poland.
Nations often really do blow it.
Dude Google Montauk mind control.
Yea so easy to manipulate. Sheep.. Last person that called me that was some guy that was trying to argue that aliens from outer space where running round on heart.
troll.. I use no foul language that the statement on WMD was from Husssein himself.
Please just keep up with the tin hat theories.
But here is the simple argument.
If the US knew that there where no WMDs and this was all a plot why didn't they find any?
I mean really the US has nuclear weapons and even has cores from old soviet weapons on hand. We also had access to lots of chemical weapons that where where in the middle of destroying at the time.
So if this was all a plot then why didn't we find any? Think about it if you where going to pull this off wouldn't you have planted stuff to justify the attack?
I mean really?
Your theory is that they US is evil, corrupt, all power full, manipulative and yet totally incompetent.
That just doesn't make any sense! If it was faked from the start they would have actually found stuff because they would have planted it!
There is a "low" end System Z both for the 9 and 10. According to IBM they start at around $100,000. while not cheap is a lot less than millions of dollars.
And let's not forget things like development, testing, and even legacy systems that people may be sill running. I am sure that there is more 370 and 390 code still running that any of us wants to think about.
Reliability is a given. There are few things in this life that are as Reliable as a well maintained Z Series. But Intel based servers are getting very good at up time these days. Redundant power supplies and RAID arrays go a long way. Don't get me wrong. They are not as reliable as an IBM mainframe. Heck you can hot swap CPUS on those things but they are pretty good.
Herc on a PC could replace some smaller mainframes. A company might decided that the uptime of their windows servers is now good enough for their needs so they can migrate away from mainframes.
Plus as more mainframe style apps are moved to Wintel you will companies offer more mainframe style hardware features for the platform. Some of the new serves have some pretty advanced management features now.
From the Powell story.
"After searching Iraq for several months across the summer of 2003, Kay began e-mailing Tenet to tell him the WMD evidence was falling apart. At one point, Wilkerson says, Tenet called Powell to tell him the claims about mobile bioweapons labs were apparently not true."
Which actually backs up my statement that they Iraq succeed in tricking the US.
No only that but this was not a statement made by Powell. This is by an unnamed staff member from a democratic administration with NO proof. You find it highly creditable because because you believe that it backs up your world view.
And the second story has nothing to do with the US.
"Giving evidence to a parliamentary inquiry, Mr Wilkie said the prime minister's office was to blame for distorting intelligence and exaggerating the threat posed by Iraq."
That is Australian prime minister.
And if you read the entire document I suggest you look at the last three lines.
""I deny that absolutely," he said of Mr Wilkie's charge that the government skewed the truth and misled the people.
"I don't know on what he bases those claims, if he has got evidence of that let him produce it, otherwise stop slandering decent people."
Mr Howard said ONA had indicated that Mr Wilkie had virtually no access to the relevant intelligence."
Some one made some claims that of wrong doing but has no proof.
Actually you will not loose too much if any performance depending on which zSeries you are using. Of course Microsoft would have to write a compatibility layer on top of the hardware emulator for a complete solution.
"You would like to believe that the brightest military minds in the world were duped into invading Iraq?
Truly you are naive."
Yes. Because if they knew from the start they where making it all up they would have made sure they found them.
You must be naive that they would cook up such a plan and not have preplanned to place weapons to find? The US has enough nerve gas and nuclear weapons that they could have planted a few gun assemblies or implosion shells to find.
Please you are working on the premiss that the US is so corrupt, evil, and twisted that they would come up with this plan but at the same time so stupid that they wouldn't make even a token effort at pulling it off!
And then with President Obama in the White House that he wouldn't blast the GOP with facts that Bush planned it all?
Yea....
I know it was the Masons that did it.
Wow...
Okay we all know the truth about Iraq but very few people want to admit it.
Here is what happened in Iraq.
Saddam Husain made an error. He faked a weapons of mass production program. He feared Iran more than the US. The facts are that Iraq had a chemical and a nuclear weapons program before the first Iraq war. That is an absolute fact.
Iraq didn't cooperate with the UN inspectors fully.
The US and other countries believed the lie that they where told. This is all documented but not very sexy. It is so much more fun to make the US into a great villan instead of saying that they and other nations messed up.
What I find so funny is that so many people will not place the blame of their own governments choices on their own government.
I bet right now a lot of people are saying that the US is making Sweden go after Assage. Or some other silliness.
What if it is a Microsoft supported and endorsed Herc/Win box?
I think you may be under estimating how much trust people have in Microsoft.
And people are already using Herc for things like development and yes even for replacing older mainframes.
If the courts make IBM give in this could be huge for Microsoft. Turbo Hercules could be used to make an easy migration to Windows. Or maybe Microsoft will make an IBM mainframe compatibility layer like the Posix layar using Turbo Hercules? If you could run your mainframe software on a Windows server things would really start to suck for IBM.
Gee a germ that uses poison for it's DNA!
This is how the Zombie Apocalypse will start.
Boy am I glad I put my 401k into Remingoton and Campbell's soup.
Intellectual property is an example of something it is hard to create and now easy to duplicate.
If you want people to keep creating you must make it worth their while. The fact is most authors do not become rich from their work. Even one like Greg Bear is probably comfortable at best but I doubt that he is what most people think of as rich.
It is that simple we do have laws that cover this. If you want those laws to be differn't change them. I would love to see the Bono/Disney extension overturned.
However it is wrong to just ignore someones rights under the law just so you can have free stuff.
Your right. I really didn't make it very clear that I was agreeing with you.
I was talking about summary where has this line in it.
". The once deadly wasteland of the Sahara now looks like a land rich in an important resource: sunlight.""
You are right in all counts and I was agreeing with you. All to often when I hear about solar projects in the desert people talk like it is a sterile environment that humans can only improve.
My bad for not making it clear that I was agreeing with you about the people being upset about the impact and at the same time voice my dislike about summary.
I am not an Ecco anything but to be honest this kind of thing statement seems so dumb that it makes my head hurt.
Deserts are not useless. They are an ecosystem just like a rain forest, coral reef, river, or prairie.
And at some point in history we have decided that the useless and dangerous rain forest needed to be cut down to make product farm land, the river needed to be dammed so the water wouldn't be wasted, the dangerous reef had to be cut so ship didn't wreck, and the useless barren prairie needed to be plowed under to become product farm land.
This may be a good idea but the attitude seems like the same old attitude that caused the dust bowl. Of course for the US the American SW would seem like a much better and more secure location for such a project.
"Your first mistake is assuming that intellectual property is real."
Spoken like someone that has never created a real program or book in their life.
It takes real effort to make something like a novel or a good program. Some people including myself will choose to release things under the GPL.
Other do not.
But since there as century of law saying that IP is real you are living in a useless little fantasy. I so would love to see you argue that one in court someday.
Well sparky it takes real work to make a novel. There is nothing fictitious about it.
I am all for keeping the copyright laws where they where before the Bono law and in line with the rest of the world.
Simple solution if you don't like it don't read their works. Write your own and put them in the public domain when you want to.
ahhh.. No but no one else seemed to get it... The rest of the comment was serious but yea I fear I aimed too high with the Hurd joke.
But you know from the description of the error I think that GNU really does to start running Hurd on the Savannah project...
Cool so when your parents die I will just take their stuff. I am sure that they will have something cool. After all you don't want to live or even benfit from any of their work. And my kids will take your stuff.
Since you find it so distasteful I will be glad to help you out.
So if you buy a rental property your kids of wife shouldn't get it when you die? If you you managed to start and run a pluming company they shouldn't get that?
You are mistaking work for hire. If are paid X to write something and it is a work for hire then they people that paid you for it get the copy right. AKA getting paid to put in pipes.
When you publish a book you get royalties and keep the copyright. The same as spending your own time and money to build a house and then renting it out.
The difference here is after a period of time your family will loose the income stream when you work enters the public domain.
"1) The works aren't exactly making a ton of money or circulation."
Lots of authors are making money by selling long out of publication works as ebooks. The ease of making an Ebook and the low cost means that a lot of works that where not available are again. This in fringes on their rights to do that. Also some people don't like their own early works. They find it embarrassing so they want it out of circulation. That is their right.
"2) They got paid when they sold the books for quite some time, why not give that money to their kids?"
Who died and made you God? Really when you die why don't I just come and take all your stuff? I mean your kids don't need what you worked for? Or better when your parents die I will take all their stuff since you don't deserve it?
"3) How many jobs keep paying you money after you've died? Why do authors deserve this special privilege?"
Anybody that has formed a company and left stock to their kids.
Anybody that invested and left the investments to their kids.
Landlords.
The list can go on and on.
Being an author is different than most jobs. It is really a very high risk investment. You invest a lot of time and effort with little chance of even breaking even. Some authors get lucky and make a living from it and a very very few get super rick. Most are lucky to just get by. Those that make some money from that investment want their kids to benefit. While I agree that the current time copyright length is not a good thing the authors life + 50 years seems fair.
Think of it as a compromise. If the author had spent that year building a house instead of writing the book would you want to take that home away from his family? I mean it is the same argument. Why should someone's family continue to benefit from their work after their death? What is the difference between spending a year writing a book or a year spent building a home that they can rent for income?
But for the most part your statement is not commonsense, it is justification. You want free stuff. It is simple greed on your part. You want something without working for it.
That is why I said most. The Galaxy is the only one I know that does have the market. I am not sure if the requirement is 3G data or maybe you can make calls for the Galaxy? ,compass , and or a camera for all I know. Which may be why the Galaxy tablet is so expensive and why the app market might not be an option for the Nook.
Google may also require GPS
I found it interesting that you didn't like that saving it to the cloud was just like saving it to your drive or local server. In an ideal world that is the way it should work but as you pointed out we are not there yet.
I have to admit that I like apps on my computer but I also really like using "cloud" based systems as well.
Google Calendar works great for our needs. We use OO.org and OWL for our document database.
What I would love to see is Google take over a fork of OO and have it sync with Google docs.
IMHO where Microsoft is going to miss out is with startups.
The next Amazon, Google, Facebook, and Twitter are all going to start with Google Docs, Gmail and goodness knows what else. They are not going to start off with Microsoft Office. The end result will be that they will grow up with Google just like the generation before grew up with Office.
But that is must my prediction. Heck I still use JOE when I with Linux config files because I grew up with WordStar and Turbo Pascal...
Microsoft do you remember WordStar and Visicalc?
How about WordPerfect and Lotus 123?