Well they are running on the Itanium now so less of a niche system than the Alpha "I am sorry to say" and I would think it would be easier to migrate to it than Linuz, AIX, or Solaris. Please tell me that you are not going to port to Windows...
Because every company can afford redundant internet connections, back up generators, a fall over mail server, and a 24/7 IT staff and I don't mean some poor guy with a cell phone and no life.
What are you talking about??? What does CFLs have to do with this. Here let me put it in simple terms. 1. Pick the cpu that has the highest efficiency. 2. Get the manufacture to cherry pick CPUs for you that are have a 4C higher max temp. 3. Use less power for cooling. 4. Total power use is decreased.
It is a lot faster and cheaper to get CPUs that are stable at higher temps than it is to create even more power efficient chips. Intel and AMD are already trying to make them as power efficient as possible. This is just a way to save a little more power and a little more money.
"What's one of the best candidates for running faster on 64-bit? Video decoding." Not really. MMX and SSE are what give you a big boost in video decoding. Throw in hardware acceleration on the video card and your all set. Now Video editing can always use more Ram so there you would get a benefit but not for decoding. SSE2, SSE3, and a good GPU are the way to go for that.
Yes but Ada was supposed to be the next big thing as was SmallTalk. Frankly I really like SmallTalk. Squeak is really nice. More people should play with Squeak including me but time is the issue as always. There seems to be a burst of new languages and then they fad to a select few. In scripting Perl and PHP are to old standards. Python and Ruby are the new hotness. My guess is that Python has staying power. LUA and some of the others mentioned are the new new hotness. What most people don't get is there is a good reason your boss will not let you use those. What happens when they fade and you have this cool app that nobody knows how to extend anymore? Programs tend to be living things You add new features over time. So a hot programmer decides to use snobol4. Five years later nobody knows how to write snobol4 the language hasn't had an update in two years and you are in a world of hurt.
And I am saying that the level a belief in this put ways the dataset! I am not even saying that it isn't happening, I am not saying we shouldn't cut our emissions. I am saying that it is far from proven. I am just willing to modify my behavior based on the possible risk.
Actually the first version was called Vulcan. The rest of your story is correct. I remember DBaseII looking back I am dumbfounded that we where will pay $500 for that program. I am at the same time shocked at what it could do in 64k... Kind of like this program http://www.bricklin.com/history/vcexecutable.htm My how things have changed.
You do know that we have a less then 200 years of good data on climate don't you? Heck I am even all for cutting carbon just to be safe. But what your so sure of you shouldn't be.
funny thing is no noticed that I put a SO WHAT at the end of my post. WHAT MAKES ME SPITTING MAD is that they put this as NEWS and not POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have politics marked so I don't see it on my Slashdot frontpage. THIS IS POLITICS AND NOT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
harddrives are very large so the extra libraries are not much of an issue. The thing is that YOU can run flash in a 64 bit environment. I just gave some options. The thing is that Adobe doesn't offer a 64bit version of Flash for Windows ether so yes the support is the same for both Windows and Linux.
Also complaining will not do anything. If you really want a 64 bit flash player the solution is simple. 1. Learn to code and help GNU Gash. or 2. Donate some money to the GNU Gash project. But complaining on Slashdot is useless.
The thing is that you will not have suboptimal performance. With a good CPU ISA a 32 bit application will be as fast or faster than a 64 bit application if that application doesn't need 64 ints or a memory space greater than four gigabytes. Like a browser. The X86 is a little different since it is register starved in 32 bit mode. Honestly you probably get NO performance boost running your browser in 64bit mode. You trade off a bigger memory footprint thanks to 64 bit points for a lot more registers. So it really is going to be a wash.
umm...... GASH? They have published the specs and the FOSS player isn't soup yet. So stop complaining and start coding buddy. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ So get to work...
Us nspluginwrapper. Actually if Firefox would support 32 bit plug ins under Linux that would also solve the issue. Or the Distros could include 32bit Firefox be default. Both would solve the problem. And if you need Firefox to be 64bit you are surfing the wrong sites.
I remember when ADA was going to be the next big thing. Then it was SmallTalk. I actually used Modual-2 back in the day. C? was never going to take off. It was too big and slow for micro computers and not high level enough for minicomputers. The only people that would ever really find use for it where those few people that used Unix. Before that it was PL-1 and Simula. I left out the fourth generation languages that where going to let everybody write their own programs. Oh and programing by making flow charts... Or was it Hypercard that was the future... Well you get the idea. Most where really good programing languages but there seems to be a limited number of languages that reach critical mass. I remember Comal which was a great little language on the old 8 bit machines but it only became popular in Europe. Oh well we will see what happens this time.
Well they did say that game developers should be treated like rock stars. Now they acting like record execs. The hours I spend playing their games and I really thought that they would be the future of software.. Be careful what you wish for.
Anyone else remember EA when it started? They had some of the most innovative games. They where going to treat game programmers like artists. M.U.L.E. Archon Pinball Construction Set Music Construction Set Seven Cities of Gold The Bard's Tail
Too bad look at what you have become. I guess they did become just like the record companies after all.
Actually Yes I even admit I blew it. I got so ticked that I posted it in reverse. But the thing is that politics SHOULD NEVER get to the points of using insults or name calling. Heck I am not an Obama supporter or a McCain supporter I am a voter. But when I or my wife see people posting lies about Obama we do correct them. And I have some some bad ones. But yes I am so ticked in general about people talking trash that I just can not take it any more.
I don't think japan is going to stop anytime soon.
There are good and proven alternative energy systems. Hydro and geothermal are good examples. The thing is that Obama and McCain both support solar and wind. So that is a wash. Obama keeps pushing flex fuel cars which means ethanol which I think is not a great plan or much more than a feel good band-aid. I think solar has potental but you have the storage issue and the idea of "using" the grid for storage has limits. at some point it will make keeping the grid stable impossible. Wind I have real doubts about. I saw all the money that went into it in the 70s and the failures. I hope that we have learned from it and can do better now but I just don't see it as a fast solution. If you want to make many mega watts of power without the carbon today the only answer I see is nuclear. As to the economics of reprocessing. I also see it as a pollution control measure. It makes more sense than just putting it under a mountain. Also I do think we will see breeder reactors come online. To me nuclear is too proven and available to toss aside and I feel that Obama will form his energy policy statement.
Not really. No matter how cool the chips run they will put out heat. If you have two chips that run at X and use Y watts you will save power if you can run them a little hotter and use less power for cooling.
Sorry I blew it. I meant that I don't think I am going to vote for Obama because of his energy policy. I got so ticked at this stupidity I hit post too soon.
I don't think I am voting for McCain because I don't like his energy policy. He doesn't support Nuclear fuel recycling which the UK, France, and Japan have done for years. His support for Nuclear power is at best luke warm. And his policy on nuclear waste management is none existent. Since they both support solar and wind which is good. They both seem to support ethanol which I think is highly questionable. Obama does really seem to be pushing for "flex" fuel cars which I think is really not useful. I say McCain's energy policy is better. So what? Why should I care what YOU THINK and why should anyone care what I think. As to your tits comments ever think those are just as nasty and useless as anything that has been said about Obama?
If you must post anything about politics and I would be happy if NO ONE EVER DID AGAIN. Then why not just post FACTS and POLICY STATEMENTS and not insults? Or better yet. Go read all you can and vote and don't talk about it at all!
The system is also to blame in general. When Clinton was in the White House we had a stock bubble. That administration should have increased interest rates to try and control the bubble. The problem is no politico will do that because they love the "booming" economy. So they just pray that it lasts until they are out of office. Well Bush gets into office just as that bubble bursts but a new bubble forms in the housing market. Again nobody is going to try and cool off a bubble. As far as being reasonable? I wish. Frankly I don't like Obama because he doesn't support nuclear power as much as McCain and is not for nuclear fuel recycling. In general I feel that Obama's energy policy is very much wishful thinking. I am not fond of McCain's tax plan. But then I don't like the big tax lie. Which is that giving more tax credits too people that already pay zero or get more money back than they put is a "tax cut". You can not cut somebody's taxes below zero! That is a grant and or welfare. I don't have a problem with grants or welfare for people that need it BUT it sure isn't "cutting" their taxes.
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Well they are running on the Itanium now so less of a niche system than the Alpha "I am sorry to say" and I would think it would be easier to migrate to it than Linuz, AIX, or Solaris.
Please tell me that you are not going to port to Windows...
You know that you can still get VMS systems from HP right?
The Vax was a great machine and VMS is a great OS. Too bad that didn't get open sourced.
Probably would have been an even better platform than Unix.
Because every company can afford redundant internet connections, back up generators, a fall over mail server, and a 24/7 IT staff and I don't mean some poor guy with a cell phone and no life.
What are you talking about???
What does CFLs have to do with this.
Here let me put it in simple terms.
1. Pick the cpu that has the highest efficiency.
2. Get the manufacture to cherry pick CPUs for you that are have a 4C higher max temp.
3. Use less power for cooling.
4. Total power use is decreased.
It is a lot faster and cheaper to get CPUs that are stable at higher temps than it is to create even more power efficient chips.
Intel and AMD are already trying to make them as power efficient as possible. This is just a way to save a little more power and a little more money.
"What's one of the best candidates for running faster on 64-bit? Video decoding."
Not really. MMX and SSE are what give you a big boost in video decoding. Throw in hardware acceleration on the video card and your all set.
Now Video editing can always use more Ram so there you would get a benefit but not for decoding.
SSE2, SSE3, and a good GPU are the way to go for that.
If he is a good actor he can pull it off. Take a look at Tom Hanks.
Yes but Ada was supposed to be the next big thing as was SmallTalk. Frankly I really like SmallTalk. Squeak is really nice.
More people should play with Squeak including me but time is the issue as always.
There seems to be a burst of new languages and then they fad to a select few.
In scripting Perl and PHP are to old standards. Python and Ruby are the new hotness. My guess is that Python has staying power. LUA and some of the others mentioned are the new new hotness.
What most people don't get is there is a good reason your boss will not let you use those. What happens when they fade and you have this cool app that nobody knows how to extend anymore?
Programs tend to be living things You add new features over time. So a hot programmer decides to use snobol4. Five years later nobody knows how to write snobol4 the language hasn't had an update in two years and you are in a world of hurt.
And I am saying that the level a belief in this put ways the dataset!
I am not even saying that it isn't happening, I am not saying we shouldn't cut our emissions.
I am saying that it is far from proven. I am just willing to modify my behavior based on the possible risk.
Actually the first version was called Vulcan. The rest of your story is correct.
I remember DBaseII looking back I am dumbfounded that we where will pay $500 for that program. I am at the same time shocked at what it could do in 64k...
Kind of like this program http://www.bricklin.com/history/vcexecutable.htm
My how things have changed.
You do know that we have a less then 200 years of good data on climate don't you?
Heck I am even all for cutting carbon just to be safe.
But what your so sure of you shouldn't be.
funny thing is no noticed that I put a SO WHAT at the end of my post.
WHAT MAKES ME SPITTING MAD is that they put this as NEWS and not POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have politics marked so I don't see it on my Slashdot frontpage.
THIS IS POLITICS AND NOT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
harddrives are very large so the extra libraries are not much of an issue.
The thing is that YOU can run flash in a 64 bit environment.
I just gave some options.
The thing is that Adobe doesn't offer a 64bit version of Flash for Windows ether so yes the support is the same for both Windows and Linux.
Also complaining will not do anything. If you really want a 64 bit flash player the solution is simple.
1. Learn to code and help GNU Gash.
or
2. Donate some money to the GNU Gash project.
But complaining on Slashdot is useless.
The thing is that you will not have suboptimal performance.
With a good CPU ISA a 32 bit application will be as fast or faster than a 64 bit application if that application doesn't need 64 ints or a memory space greater than four gigabytes. Like a browser.
The X86 is a little different since it is register starved in 32 bit mode.
Honestly you probably get NO performance boost running your browser in 64bit mode. You trade off a bigger memory footprint thanks to 64 bit points for a lot more registers. So it really is going to be a wash.
umm......
GASH?
They have published the specs and the FOSS player isn't soup yet. So stop complaining and start coding buddy.
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
So get to work...
Us nspluginwrapper.
Actually if Firefox would support 32 bit plug ins under Linux that would also solve the issue.
Or the Distros could include 32bit Firefox be default.
Both would solve the problem. And if you need Firefox to be 64bit you are surfing the wrong sites.
I remember when ADA was going to be the next big thing. Then it was SmallTalk. I actually used Modual-2 back in the day. C? was never going to take off. It was too big and slow for micro computers and not high level enough for minicomputers. The only people that would ever really find use for it where those few people that used Unix.
Before that it was PL-1 and Simula. I left out the fourth generation languages that where going to let everybody write their own programs. Oh and programing by making flow charts... Or was it Hypercard that was the future...
Well you get the idea. Most where really good programing languages but there seems to be a limited number of languages that reach critical mass. I remember Comal which was a great little language on the old 8 bit machines but it only became popular in Europe.
Oh well we will see what happens this time.
Well they did say that game developers should be treated like rock stars.
Now they acting like record execs.
The hours I spend playing their games and I really thought that they would be the future of software.. Be careful what you wish for.
Anyone else remember EA when it started? They had some of the most innovative games. They where going to treat game programmers like artists.
M.U.L.E.
Archon
Pinball Construction Set
Music Construction Set
Seven Cities of Gold
The Bard's Tail
Too bad look at what you have become.
I guess they did become just like the record companies after all.
Yea I would like to play spore but the DRM and price are a turn off.
I will wait for a few months and buy it from the bin if at all.
Actually Yes I even admit I blew it. I got so ticked that I posted it in reverse.
But the thing is that politics SHOULD NEVER get to the points of using insults or name calling.
Heck I am not an Obama supporter or a McCain supporter I am a voter.
But when I or my wife see people posting lies about Obama we do correct them. And I have some some bad ones.
But yes I am so ticked in general about people talking trash that I just can not take it any more.
I don't think japan is going to stop anytime soon.
There are good and proven alternative energy systems. Hydro and geothermal are good examples.
The thing is that Obama and McCain both support solar and wind. So that is a wash. Obama keeps pushing flex fuel cars which means ethanol which I think is not a great plan or much more than a feel good band-aid.
I think solar has potental but you have the storage issue and the idea of "using" the grid for storage has limits. at some point it will make keeping the grid stable impossible.
Wind I have real doubts about. I saw all the money that went into it in the 70s and the failures. I hope that we have learned from it and can do better now but I just don't see it as a fast solution.
If you want to make many mega watts of power without the carbon today the only answer I see is nuclear.
As to the economics of reprocessing. I also see it as a pollution control measure. It makes more sense than just putting it under a mountain. Also I do think we will see breeder reactors come online.
To me nuclear is too proven and available to toss aside and I feel that Obama will form his energy policy statement.
Not really.
No matter how cool the chips run they will put out heat. If you have two chips that run at X and use Y watts you will save power if you can run them a little hotter and use less power for cooling.
Sorry I blew it. I meant that I don't think I am going to vote for Obama because of his energy policy. I got so ticked at this stupidity I hit post too soon.
I don't think I am voting for McCain because I don't like his energy policy.
He doesn't support Nuclear fuel recycling which the UK, France, and Japan have done for years.
His support for Nuclear power is at best luke warm.
And his policy on nuclear waste management is none existent. Since they both support solar and wind which is good. They both seem to support ethanol which I think is highly questionable. Obama does really seem to be pushing for "flex" fuel cars which I think is really not useful. I say McCain's energy policy is better.
So what?
Why should I care what YOU THINK and why should anyone care what I think. As to your tits comments ever think those are just as nasty and useless as anything that has been said about Obama?
If you must post anything about politics and I would be happy if NO ONE EVER DID AGAIN. Then why not just post FACTS and POLICY STATEMENTS and not insults?
Or better yet. Go read all you can and vote and don't talk about it at all!
The system is also to blame in general.
When Clinton was in the White House we had a stock bubble. That administration should have increased interest rates to try and control the bubble. The problem is no politico will do that because they love the "booming" economy. So they just pray that it lasts until they are out of office.
Well Bush gets into office just as that bubble bursts but a new bubble forms in the housing market. Again nobody is going to try and cool off a bubble.
As far as being reasonable? I wish. Frankly I don't like Obama because he doesn't support nuclear power as much as McCain and is not for nuclear fuel recycling. In general I feel that Obama's energy policy is very much wishful thinking.
I am not fond of McCain's tax plan.
But then I don't like the big tax lie. Which is that giving more tax credits too people that already pay zero or get more money back than they put is a "tax cut".
You can not cut somebody's taxes below zero!
That is a grant and or welfare. I don't have a problem with grants or welfare for people that need it BUT it sure isn't "cutting" their taxes.