It is called a slipper slop argument and it is also a classic logical fallacy.
Yes it is okay for parents to enforce a curfew for their kids! Yes it is okay to for parents to monitor their children's internet activity. It is even okay for a parent to choose who a child may and may not spend time with... In fact that is EXACTLY WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
In fact parents not doing these things is often the excuse used for getting the government into regulating behavior. Too many 18 year olds where buying alcohol for 16 year olds. So they raised the legal drinking age to 19. Then the number of drunk driving accidents went down so they raised it again to 21. To many kids where causing trouble late at night so now towns have curfews for people under 18.
Government restrictions are caused by parents not teaching their kids how to be responsible. Not by empowering the parents to do the job.
This is very true. Take a look at an Indy car wreck. The explode in a thousand pieces. The driver usually unclicks his harness and walks away for 150 mph crashes. You let the car absorb the impact be deforming metal. It takes energy to bend metal. The energy doesn't get transfered into your body.
Actually it is the true but the best lies are the truth. If you are a great driver, and you use all you skill, and it is dry, you can stop faster without ABS then with it. So if you are the Stig on a good day on the the track then you could possibly stop the car better without ABS. But 99.999% of the time ABS will stop a car quicker than the best driver.
Well I am old I got my drivers license before the C64 hit the market:) When I was a kid you could drive with your parents or an adult in the car during the day time at 15. Or you could ride a motorcycle by yourself. three months before you turned 16 you could drive at night with an adult. At 16 you took a test and could drive any time any where. Now they do have curfews in some places for people under the age of 18.
When I was in high school we had one high school for the county. My graduating class was 1200 people so it wasn't that small of an area. I used to date a girl that went to my school but lived over 25 miles from me. So yes I drove on 100 mile dates. 25 miles to pick her up, 25 miles to the football game, 25 miles to take her home and 25 miles to my house. No I wonder what where my parents thinking.
You must be kidding. Don't you remember being a teenager? Or did you never leave the house?
You can not trust kids and teens to make good choices... That is why they are called kids and teens! A parent just has to do their best to make sure that teens don't make choices that ruin their lives.
There is nothing wrong with this. You tell the kid not to do burn outs and don't speed. This just enforces it. Of course it will not stop them from getting to 80 as fast as possible or doing 80 in a 35.
"70% coal is a ridiculous number; coal power only makes up half our grid" That is for the EV1. The EV1 was only available in California. I do not know what the percentage of coal is for California but I think it is higher than average. Also since they where charging at night mostly they would tend to get most of their power from large base load plants which are often coal. You use Natural gas for peak load plants. I would bet that EVs rarely got their power from Natural Gas plants for the simple reason that they don't tend to run them at night. I don't know if your right or not but your estimation of percentage of coal could be way off.
Can the default install of Ubuntu be considered a well setup install. I would say yes with on minor issue and that is codecs. You need to add through the add program function which isn't hard. That is one of the stupid legal hassles. As far as drivers. They don't tend to be a big problem anymore. I have yet to have a driver problem on my installs. Nvidia, ATI/AMD, Intel are all supporting Linux with drivers. HP and Epson printers are well supported and other printer makers are getting up to speed.
I think it will take a big Linux company to fix the software distribution issue. The hard core FOSS people will fight the idea of paying for software and for software that doesn't include the source but as Netbooks catch on I think you will see that change. The ideal situation would be for a super synaptic type program where you could buy software and get free software all from a single install menu. What would be great is if included FOSS projects both for free and that include a small fee. The small fee would go straight to the developer. Closed source programs would get say %70 of the purchase price. Frankly if you didn't have to market, manufacture, and distribute your software a 70% margin would be GREAT.
What about Microsoft? I would say they could use it a lot more than Apple. I don't see what the problem is. Lots of phones are exclusive to a carrier. The Palm Centos was exclusive to Sprint for a while. Bricking phones that where on other carriers? Well my phone can not be updated if it isn't on the Sprint network at all.
People it is just a nice phone. If you don't like AT&T then buy a different phone that isn't so shinny.
Your right. Very optimistic of them to say the least. I read the story and I guessed wrong. ewwwww... This will end up as an academic study with no hardware coming out of it I hope. Other wise it will be a huge money sink.
The navy did look at this in the 1960 because of that movie/TV show. The Japanese did build subs that carried aircraft. As to how impractical? Well think about the SLCM and the Sub-Harpoon. Both are very close to flying subs. They just go bang and don't land.
My guess is they are looking at a drone and not a manned aircraft. With modern composites it might be very do able.
Well frankly the ease of use just wasn't there a few years ago. It is still lacking in a lot of distro's even today. Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSuse, and CentOS are all very easy to use and really very stable. Ubuntu really leads the pack as far as ease of install. Making it easy to install the Nvidia and ATI drivers. As well as a the "questionable" codecs for video.
The only real problems left has nothing to do with the OS but with third party support and legal silliness with codecs. A well set up install of Ubuntu will be just as pretty as Vista, a lot faster, and will keep running a lot longer without the aid of a rent a geek. So the benefits are ease of use, ease of getting new software, performance, and lack of problems. The draw back is that not many vendors have done ports to Linux. That problem could be solved by Ubuntu with an iTunes marketplace/Valve Steam type system. I think that would be brilliant.
Simple. Linux will do what you want to do faster. Linux is easier to use. No need to worry about running adaware, spybot, or even antivirus on Linux. It could be that Linux is more secure by design or that it is targeted less but that doesn't matter since the end result is that you get less hassle. Need to edit video? Burn a DVD? Do a spreadsheet? No problem. Unlike Windows where you need to get in your car , drive to Best Buy, and then pay twenty to three hundred dollars for a program. With Linux you just select it from the add program menu and it is downloaded and installed on your PC for you for free.
Unless you have to have some program that runs on Windows why pay for what you can get for free? Not only is it free but it is more hassle free, runs faster, and doesn't treat you like a crook.
Oh and guess what? if you put in a new motherboard it don't have to call some company and beg them to let you keep using the software you paid for. Unlike Windows Genuine Advantage.
Yes there are good reasons to keep using Windows. Linux doesn't have Photoshop which professionals really do need. It doesn't have Autocad or Solidworks but it does have Pro-E. So yes if you must run a program that is only available on Windows then yea windows is a good choice. If you are a gamer then yes Windows is a good choice. But to say that Linux isn't ready for the desktop because one company has not ported an application that you seem to think you must have is extremely narcissistic.
Really? You can get a band new computer and find a Photoshop icon??? I didn't know that was part of Windows?
Also photoshop isn't a common task. I would bet that less then 5% of all PCs have Photoshop on them.
So what common tasks are hard to do on Linux? Not counting one "very good" but very specialized and expensive program that hasn't been ported to Linux yet.
What common tasks? Really I don't know why anyone would have a hard time doing common tasks in Linux? To start a program you click on the menu item. Just what is so hard to do under Linux?
Simple. don't buy them. They are games. Not food or shelter. It is a luxury item. If you find the product or how the company behaves to be offensive then don't buy from them. Buy a game that doesn't pull this tactic.
"In Alabama, guns in cars is "normal", along with fishing rods. " Not if your a convicted felon. Most convicted felons are banned from ever owning a gun. Frankly a convicted felon with meth and a gun is probably a pretty bad guy. Should he be let off? Well that is for the supreme court to decided.
Depends. Do you currently have a job? DO you have a family to support? Would you rather work on the project full time. Deal with the Devil? Not even close. I would say that this whole question is one that nobody on Slashdot can answer except for the person that posted it.
Yes it is for science but the UK still uses miles per gallon in car ads. When I watch Top Gear they talk about MPH for top speed.... And a atmosphere of pressure isn't METRIC. The metric unit of pressure is the pascal. You really should know what you are talking if you are going to be such a snot.
In other words... Lean the metric system before you lecture others people about it.
You hate that saying because it is miss quoted. There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are very few old bold pilots. Every pilot knows that the wost thing that a pilot can say is "I can make it" But Fossett did keep the unspoken rule. Only kill yourself. If you are going push the limits you do it by yourself. My guess when flying with passengers Fossett crossed every T and doted every I.
Well by that standard Vista isn't ready for the Desktop. Do you know how much money people are making installing XP for people that have bought Vista? I am hoping that Ubuntu will produce a really good version for netbooks. I am also waiting for Apple to enter the netbook market. OSX can scale down to netbook size.
Software not available at BestBuy? Who cares. The key to the netbook and frankly to Linux is online software purchasing. An iTunes like program like Apple has already done for the iPhone and Google is doing for Android is the answer. Why go to a store when the store can go to you. Just click and buy any program you want. Throw in media, and ebooks as well and your good to go.
How is this unethical? From the summary. " As the current version is still somewhat buggy and slow" Gee somebody was funding this project and the current team has developed a version that is buggy and slow... So you take the specs and have someone else write it. Suppose I wanted to have some features added to say SugarCRM. I find a company and give them money and the specs. The produce code that is buggy and slow. So I take my money and specs to somebody else. What is wrong with this?
I did read all that and I even said that it was a good decision. I am more complaining about the spin and flag waving that is going on about it. Yes it went right in every way. It is the statements about the common good and freedom that are driving me nuts. It is software for controlling a toy train. It isn't a cure cancer.
Good heavens you are to blame for those! Just kidding good for you. The manuals need all the help they can get. How ever for the most part people that chant about free software contribute nothing.
I am already free. I don't worry about people abusing the GPL. In this case the guy was a total crook and I am glad he was taken down. I am very tired of people throwing around freedom like that. Most of them have never written a line of code at all much less put any in a GPL project.
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It is called a slipper slop argument and it is also a classic logical fallacy.
Yes it is okay for parents to enforce a curfew for their kids!
Yes it is okay to for parents to monitor their children's internet activity.
It is even okay for a parent to choose who a child may and may not spend time with...
In fact that is EXACTLY WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
In fact parents not doing these things is often the excuse used for getting the government into regulating behavior. Too many 18 year olds where buying alcohol for 16 year olds. So they raised the legal drinking age to 19. Then the number of drunk driving accidents went down so they raised it again to 21.
To many kids where causing trouble late at night so now towns have curfews for people under 18.
Government restrictions are caused by parents not teaching their kids how to be responsible. Not by empowering the parents to do the job.
This is very true. Take a look at an Indy car wreck.
The explode in a thousand pieces. The driver usually unclicks his harness and walks away for 150 mph crashes.
You let the car absorb the impact be deforming metal. It takes energy to bend metal. The energy doesn't get transfered into your body.
Actually it is the true but the best lies are the truth.
If you are a great driver, and you use all you skill, and it is dry, you can stop faster without ABS then with it.
So if you are the Stig on a good day on the the track then you could possibly stop the car better without ABS.
But 99.999% of the time ABS will stop a car quicker than the best driver.
I guess you haven't driven a Focus or a Mazda3 ?
The base model focus makes 140 HP. 0-60 will be down in the 8.3 second range.
It isn't a slow car.
Well I am old I got my drivers license before the C64 hit the market :)
When I was a kid you could drive with your parents or an adult in the car during the day time at 15. Or you could ride a motorcycle by yourself.
three months before you turned 16 you could drive at night with an adult.
At 16 you took a test and could drive any time any where.
Now they do have curfews in some places for people under the age of 18.
When I was in high school we had one high school for the county. My graduating class was 1200 people so it wasn't that small of an area. I used to date a girl that went to my school but lived over 25 miles from me. So yes I drove on 100 mile dates. 25 miles to pick her up, 25 miles to the football game, 25 miles to take her home and 25 miles to my house.
No I wonder what where my parents thinking.
You must be kidding.
Don't you remember being a teenager?
Or did you never leave the house?
You can not trust kids and teens to make good choices... That is why they are called kids and teens!
A parent just has to do their best to make sure that teens don't make choices that ruin their lives.
There is nothing wrong with this. You tell the kid not to do burn outs and don't speed. This just enforces it.
Of course it will not stop them from getting to 80 as fast as possible or doing 80 in a 35.
"70% coal is a ridiculous number; coal power only makes up half our grid"
That is for the EV1. The EV1 was only available in California. I do not know what the percentage of coal is for California but I think it is higher than average.
Also since they where charging at night mostly they would tend to get most of their power from large base load plants which are often coal. You use Natural gas for peak load plants.
I would bet that EVs rarely got their power from Natural Gas plants for the simple reason that they don't tend to run them at night. I don't know if your right or not but your estimation of percentage of coal could be way off.
Can the default install of Ubuntu be considered a well setup install.
I would say yes with on minor issue and that is codecs.
You need to add through the add program function which isn't hard. That is one of the stupid legal hassles.
As far as drivers. They don't tend to be a big problem anymore. I have yet to have a driver problem on my installs. Nvidia, ATI/AMD, Intel are all supporting Linux with drivers. HP and Epson printers are well supported and other printer makers are getting up to speed.
I think it will take a big Linux company to fix the software distribution issue. The hard core FOSS people will fight the idea of paying for software and for software that doesn't include the source but as Netbooks catch on I think you will see that change.
The ideal situation would be for a super synaptic type program where you could buy software and get free software all from a single install menu.
What would be great is if included FOSS projects both for free and that include a small fee. The small fee would go straight to the developer.
Closed source programs would get say %70 of the purchase price.
Frankly if you didn't have to market, manufacture, and distribute your software a 70% margin would be GREAT.
What about Microsoft?
I would say they could use it a lot more than Apple.
I don't see what the problem is. Lots of phones are exclusive to a carrier. The Palm Centos was exclusive to Sprint for a while. Bricking phones that where on other carriers? Well my phone can not be updated if it isn't on the Sprint network at all.
People it is just a nice phone. If you don't like AT&T then buy a different phone that isn't so shinny.
Your right. Very optimistic of them to say the least.
I read the story and I guessed wrong. ewwwww...
This will end up as an academic study with no hardware coming out of it I hope.
Other wise it will be a huge money sink.
The navy did look at this in the 1960 because of that movie/TV show.
The Japanese did build subs that carried aircraft.
As to how impractical?
Well think about the SLCM and the Sub-Harpoon.
Both are very close to flying subs. They just go bang and don't land.
My guess is they are looking at a drone and not a manned aircraft. With modern composites it might be very do able.
Well frankly the ease of use just wasn't there a few years ago.
It is still lacking in a lot of distro's even today. Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSuse, and CentOS are all very easy to use and really very stable.
Ubuntu really leads the pack as far as ease of install. Making it easy to install the Nvidia and ATI drivers. As well as a the "questionable" codecs for video.
The only real problems left has nothing to do with the OS but with third party support and legal silliness with codecs.
A well set up install of Ubuntu will be just as pretty as Vista, a lot faster, and will keep running a lot longer without the aid of a rent a geek.
So the benefits are ease of use, ease of getting new software, performance, and lack of problems.
The draw back is that not many vendors have done ports to Linux. That problem could be solved by Ubuntu with an iTunes marketplace/Valve Steam type system.
I think that would be brilliant.
Simple.
Linux will do what you want to do faster.
Linux is easier to use. No need to worry about running adaware, spybot, or even antivirus on Linux. It could be that Linux is more secure by design or that it is targeted less but that doesn't matter since the end result is that you get less hassle.
Need to edit video? Burn a DVD? Do a spreadsheet? No problem. Unlike Windows where you need to get in your car , drive to Best Buy, and then pay twenty to three hundred dollars for a program. With Linux you just select it from the add program menu and it is downloaded and installed on your PC for you for free.
Unless you have to have some program that runs on Windows why pay for what you can get for free?
Not only is it free but it is more hassle free, runs faster, and doesn't treat you like a crook.
Oh and guess what? if you put in a new motherboard it don't have to call some company and beg them to let you keep using the software you paid for. Unlike Windows Genuine Advantage.
Yes there are good reasons to keep using Windows. Linux doesn't have Photoshop which professionals really do need. It doesn't have Autocad or Solidworks but it does have Pro-E. So yes if you must run a program that is only available on Windows then yea windows is a good choice.
If you are a gamer then yes Windows is a good choice.
But to say that Linux isn't ready for the desktop because one company has not ported an application that you seem to think you must have is extremely narcissistic.
Really? You can get a band new computer and find a Photoshop icon???
I didn't know that was part of Windows?
Also photoshop isn't a common task. I would bet that less then 5% of all PCs have Photoshop on them.
So what common tasks are hard to do on Linux? Not counting one "very good" but very specialized and expensive program that hasn't been ported to Linux yet.
What common tasks?
Really I don't know why anyone would have a hard time doing common tasks in Linux?
To start a program you click on the menu item.
Just what is so hard to do under Linux?
Simple. don't buy them.
They are games. Not food or shelter. It is a luxury item. If you find the product or how the company behaves to be offensive then don't buy from them. Buy a game that doesn't pull this tactic.
"In Alabama, guns in cars is "normal", along with fishing rods. "
Not if your a convicted felon. Most convicted felons are banned from ever owning a gun.
Frankly a convicted felon with meth and a gun is probably a pretty bad guy.
Should he be let off? Well that is for the supreme court to decided.
Depends. Do you currently have a job? DO you have a family to support? Would you rather work on the project full time.
Deal with the Devil? Not even close. I would say that this whole question is one that nobody on Slashdot can answer except for the person that posted it.
Yes it is for science but the UK still uses miles per gallon in car ads.
When I watch Top Gear they talk about MPH for top speed....
And a atmosphere of pressure isn't METRIC.
The metric unit of pressure is the pascal. You really should know what you are talking if you are going to be such a snot.
In other words... Lean the metric system before you lecture others people about it.
You hate that saying because it is miss quoted.
There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are very few old bold pilots.
Every pilot knows that the wost thing that a pilot can say is "I can make it"
But Fossett did keep the unspoken rule. Only kill yourself. If you are going push the limits you do it by yourself. My guess when flying with passengers Fossett crossed every T and doted every I.
Well by that standard Vista isn't ready for the Desktop. Do you know how much money people are making installing XP for people that have bought Vista?
I am hoping that Ubuntu will produce a really good version for netbooks. I am also waiting for Apple to enter the netbook market. OSX can scale down to netbook size.
Software not available at BestBuy? Who cares. The key to the netbook and frankly to Linux is online software purchasing. An iTunes like program like Apple has already done for the iPhone and Google is doing for Android is the answer. Why go to a store when the store can go to you. Just click and buy any program you want. Throw in media, and ebooks as well and your good to go.
How is this unethical?
From the summary. " As the current version is still somewhat buggy and slow"
Gee somebody was funding this project and the current team has developed a version that is buggy and slow...
So you take the specs and have someone else write it.
Suppose I wanted to have some features added to say SugarCRM. I find a company and give them money and the specs. The produce code that is buggy and slow. So I take my money and specs to somebody else.
What is wrong with this?
I did read all that and I even said that it was a good decision. I am more complaining about the spin and flag waving that is going on about it.
Yes it went right in every way. It is the statements about the common good and freedom that are driving me nuts.
It is software for controlling a toy train. It isn't a cure cancer.
Good heavens you are to blame for those!
Just kidding good for you. The manuals need all the help they can get.
How ever for the most part people that chant about free software contribute nothing.
I am already free.
I don't worry about people abusing the GPL. In this case the guy was a total crook and I am glad he was taken down.
I am very tired of people throwing around freedom like that. Most of them have never written a line of code at all much less put any in a GPL project.