RAID isn't a replacement for archival storage. It is pretty hard to send a RAID array to an off-site storage facility. You can do it with an external hard-drive but the that is far from an ideal solution. Also write once is a benefit in some situations. Write once devices tend to have a longer storage life and for things like and are even a requirement for some applications. Think about financial transactions and document storage. Even things like satellite data.
You see you live in a different world than I do. You are worried about your system. I help support 15,000 users. 1. Not all the hardware that people use on a computer comes from Dell. What about things like USB serial converters, printers, and other devices? 2. I am glad the NVidia drivers are working for you. But in my world if one out of a thousand people have a problem I hear about it several times a day. I get to hear about Vista driver issues daily and less then 1% of our user base has it. 3. UAC causes all sorts of issues and our few Vista users must turn it off. One problem is that some programs use the journal playback functions for macros and of other user selectable functions. It was part of the Windows API going back to at least Windows 98 but now it is considered a security risk because keyboard loggers used it. With UAC it is unusable. 4. Honestly for 100% of current Windows end users XP IS GOOD ENOUGH. The only group of people that it isn't good enough for are Developers that are working on Vista software, support techs that must support users on Vista, and people writing books and blogs about Vista. There isn't any software that only runs on Vista so yes XP is good enough.
5. I constantly hear support techs saying "Oh no she is on Vista". Frankly it is the same thing I heard when ME was out. It is almost but not quit as bad as when Microsoft shipped Drivespace. As far as I know Vista hasn't eaten anyone file system.
Actually I would bet that the helicopters are not going to jam cell signals. Why jam them when you can just shut down the towers? What signals they will jam is an interesting question.
The problem with this no 16 bit or no 32 bit code is that it really is a waste. Very few programs need 64 bit integers or 64 bit address spaces. All things being equal and frankly on the X86 they are not equal a 32 bit program should run faster and use less memory than a 64bit program. I really don't see much need for a 64bit music player or word processor or for most people a 64-bit spreadsheet. Four gigabytes is enough memory for most applications. Oh well the abundance and waste of cpu cycles and memory bandwidth marches on.
I haven't tried to run Turbo Pascal on 64 bit vista yet. You may very well be right about 16 bit code. I still will bet big money that Child of Vista will run 32 bit code just fine.
I also have to wonder why HP servers running Linux? IBM still has X86 servers. One vender for all the hardware should have made life simpler for them. Plus I would think IBM would have given them a deal better deal with more boxes.
Not a chance. The child of Vista will "require" a 64-Bit CPU to boot but you can bet your bottom dollar that it will run 32 and even 16 bit code. Microsoft will not throw out compatibility. If they required you to buy all new software to upgrade then you might as well move to a Mac or Linux. Microsoft lives because they keep running old code. I can still run Turbo Pascal in Windows XP and I wouldn't be shocked if I could in the child of Vista.
Except that about 90% of the people that us Vista turn off the UAC because it is too big of a pain to deal with. As you pointed out the end user really doesn't gain a lot from Vista and I feel they actually loose a lot. Hardware drivers. Stability. I have heard that NVidia drivers have issues. Cost. It is expensive. Resource consumption. It requires more ram, processor, and GPU power than XP. That also means more power is used than XP. For what? I used W2K for years after XP came out. I only "upgraded" when I built a new system and used an MSDN copy of XP. I still say that for 95% of the people on the planet Vista isn't a good value. XP really is just good enough.
Then you would get the WTO involved. The rest of the world has got to see as a drain. It keeps pumping money out of their counties and into the US. This is a very dangerous move for Microsoft and one I just don't think they can win.
I left out one other item of prior art. The lite-brite:) I knew you where kidding but you should know that some people on slashdot don't. I personally think this is about the stupidest thing that Microsoft could do. They are a convicted monopoly. They are refusing to revel what patents are being violated. They are trying to get money for said patents. This shows predatory intent and a look of good faith to me. Microsoft needs to understand that they can not play by small company rules anymore. They can not attack small competitors like a rabid pit bull. They have been busted for being a monopoly and they are a huge unloved mega corp. This is just dumb. The only thing I can think is that they did this because of Dell. It was any easy way to get Dell to buy there Windows tax for Linux coupons. I have a feeling this will not scare the EU as much as really tick them off.
I would love to know what patents you could have on a framebuffer! I think the AppleII, Commodore64, and Atari400/800 are all proof of prior art on that one. Plus wouldn't that be in the count of Kernel violations. I still say it is misleading fud but I would bet you do also.
You can get.NET 3.0 for XP so that doesn't matter. IIS? for a work station? Who cars. That is for a server. New version of IE? Available for XP. A lot of what is useful in Vista is available to XP users. Yes I was a W2K user as well and XP wasn't a benefit for a good long while.
Easy. Microsoft is claiming 240+ plus patents are infringing on Windows. Later they claim less than 50 are in the Linux kernel with the other in the GUI and OpenOffice. That right there is FUD since OpenOffice isn't part of Linux and frankly more people use OpenOffice on Windows than on Linux. Also Linux doesn't have a GUI. Gnome and KDE are not part of Linux and run on other OSs as well as Linux.
Finally they refuse to what patents are infringing but say the will show them to known Linux users and some distro makers.
Well I am a Linux users which is no known. Show them to me. Microsoft will not show them because they want to use them to bet money from companies that use Linux or sell Linux. If they show them then they would bet challenged or written around.
Except what do you gain from Vista? Most people moved from Windows 98 to XP. They gained a much more secure system in that move and moved to the proven NT kernel from the 95/98/ME codebase. The move to Vista? I see little gain but eye candy. DirectX 10 may be a big deal and the move from GDI could be important to some people but unlike the move from 98 to XP there is little to gain. XP to Vista is about as good of a move as from 98 to ME.
Vista is such a small improvement that I am seeing wide spread interest in Linux for the first time. The FAA and NASA are both not jumping onto Vista.
But what is a US company? Is Novell/Suse a US company? And what about companies like the distro formerly called Mandrake? I admit it I hate there new name and can never remember it.
"if linux does potentially violate 283 patents than what should we do about it?" This one statment is proof of a FUD attack. Linux doesn't violate 283 patents. The majority of "patent violations" are in OpenOffice and some unamed GUI. Linux doesn't have a GUI. KDE, Gnome, Window maker all run under Linux but also under BSD and I think Gnome runs under Solaris as well. Open Office runs under Linux, OSX, and Windows.
The very claim of 283 patent violations in Linux is misleading.
The big risk is that they loose and this then taken as evidence of anti-trust. Microsoft is a convicted monopoly after all. They got a wrist slap last time this time could be different. Since some EU companies are involved could this get Microsoft into even deeper hot water with the EU?
"I'd like to see how a Scientologist would deal with the seriously mentally ill. " I wouldn't I am just not that cruel.
What I don't like about psychiatry is simply the level of arrogance I see. They as you put it really can't help the most seriously ill but act with such a an air of assurance that it makes me crazy. At least they are honestly trying unlike Scientology which I am not fond of.
Actually several other cars where just as likely to catch fire from from a rear collision. The Datsun had the highest death rate and the same flaw. The VW bug was less likely to catch fire from a rear end collision because the fuel tank was in front. The VW bug where much more likely to suffer a fire since the tank was in the front and frontal impacts tended to be much higher energy than rear impacts. And as one person pointed out that Ford actually one the most import of the court cases. It is a myth that refuses to die. Besides it is still fashionable to blame a US car company than a Japanese or German company.
Except for. C: the fix may cause a bug or other issues. Something may stop working.
It also depends on the security problem. If it is a local exploit then it may not be worth fixing right then.
I think everyone is confused here. These are not exploits that they have closed and just haven't decided to end out the patch. These are exploits that the haven't created the patch for. A security team as limited resources. They may have x exploits so it is only logical to fix the most critical first.
It was Ford and it was the Pinto. The problem is. 1. The Pinto even before the "fix" didn't have the highest death rate in it's class. Other small cars had the same death per mile or worse. 2. The NTSA had the dollars per rate figure in the national standards for safety and Ford referenced in in their internal documentation which the lawyer used in the case. 3. Had Ford not identified the risk that a bolt posed to the fuel tank and documented it they probably wouldn't have lost so big in court.
Just thought I would try and kill a myth with some truth. Probably will not work but it is worth a shot.
Okay how many people a year get killed by a gunman walking into a school, office, or shopping mall in the US? How many people would drills like this save if every sixth grader did the best possible thing in that situation? And I for the life of me don't know what the best possible thing a sixth grader could do! Now how many people a year drown in swimming pools? Die from lung cancer. Die from heart attacks and stroke. Die in car accidents?
Yes a school shooting is all very dramatic and makes the news but the threat to lives is actually very low.
The time effort and money would be better spent teaching people how to swim, eat right, not smoke, exercise, and to drive a car.
So yes this is dumb and a waste of effort on just about every level. BTW if they really wanted to do something to prevent school shooting they should work on stopping bullying and teaching people how to be nice to one another. Again not as easy or as sexy and a mass murder drill but probably more more productive in the long run.
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RAID isn't a replacement for archival storage. It is pretty hard to send a RAID array to an off-site storage facility. You can do it with an external hard-drive but the that is far from an ideal solution.
Also write once is a benefit in some situations. Write once devices tend to have a longer storage life and for things like and are even a requirement for some applications. Think about financial transactions and document storage. Even things like satellite data.
You see you live in a different world than I do. You are worried about your system. I help support 15,000 users.
1. Not all the hardware that people use on a computer comes from Dell. What about things like USB serial converters, printers, and other devices?
2. I am glad the NVidia drivers are working for you. But in my world if one out of a thousand people have a problem I hear about it several times a day. I get to hear about Vista driver issues daily and less then 1% of our user base has it.
3. UAC causes all sorts of issues and our few Vista users must turn it off. One problem is that some programs use the journal playback functions for macros and of other user selectable functions. It was part of the Windows API going back to at least Windows 98 but now it is considered a security risk because keyboard loggers used it. With UAC it is unusable.
4. Honestly for 100% of current Windows end users XP IS GOOD ENOUGH. The only group of people that it isn't good enough for are Developers that are working on Vista software, support techs that must support users on Vista, and people writing books and blogs about Vista. There isn't any software that only runs on Vista so yes XP is good enough.
5. I constantly hear support techs saying "Oh no she is on Vista". Frankly it is the same thing I heard when ME was out. It is almost but not quit as bad as when Microsoft shipped Drivespace. As far as I know Vista hasn't eaten anyone file system.
I have to admit that as I read the article was cool I need to check out some of these sites.
Actually I would bet that the helicopters are not going to jam cell signals. Why jam them when you can just shut down the towers?
What signals they will jam is an interesting question.
The problem with this no 16 bit or no 32 bit code is that it really is a waste. Very few programs need 64 bit integers or 64 bit address spaces. All things being equal and frankly on the X86 they are not equal a 32 bit program should run faster and use less memory than a 64bit program. I really don't see much need for a 64bit music player or word processor or for most people a 64-bit spreadsheet. Four gigabytes is enough memory for most applications.
Oh well the abundance and waste of cpu cycles and memory bandwidth marches on.
I haven't tried to run Turbo Pascal on 64 bit vista yet. You may very well be right about 16 bit code. I still will bet big money that Child of Vista will run 32 bit code just fine.
I also have to wonder why HP servers running Linux? IBM still has X86 servers. One vender for all the hardware should have made life simpler for them. Plus I would think IBM would have given them a deal better deal with more boxes.
Not a chance.
The child of Vista will "require" a 64-Bit CPU to boot but you can bet your bottom dollar that it will run 32 and even 16 bit code.
Microsoft will not throw out compatibility. If they required you to buy all new software to upgrade then you might as well move to a Mac or Linux.
Microsoft lives because they keep running old code.
I can still run Turbo Pascal in Windows XP and I wouldn't be shocked if I could in the child of Vista.
Except that about 90% of the people that us Vista turn off the UAC because it is too big of a pain to deal with.
As you pointed out the end user really doesn't gain a lot from Vista and I feel they actually loose a lot.
Hardware drivers.
Stability. I have heard that NVidia drivers have issues.
Cost. It is expensive.
Resource consumption. It requires more ram, processor, and GPU power than XP. That also means more power is used than XP.
For what? I used W2K for years after XP came out. I only "upgraded" when I built a new system and used an MSDN copy of XP.
I still say that for 95% of the people on the planet Vista isn't a good value. XP really is just good enough.
Then you would get the WTO involved. The rest of the world has got to see as a drain. It keeps pumping money out of their counties and into the US.
This is a very dangerous move for Microsoft and one I just don't think they can win.
I left out one other item of prior art. The lite-brite :)
I knew you where kidding but you should know that some people on slashdot don't. I personally think this is about the stupidest thing that Microsoft could do.
They are a convicted monopoly. They are refusing to revel what patents are being violated. They are trying to get money for said patents.
This shows predatory intent and a look of good faith to me. Microsoft needs to understand that they can not play by small company rules anymore. They can not attack small competitors like a rabid pit bull. They have been busted for being a monopoly and they are a huge unloved mega corp.
This is just dumb. The only thing I can think is that they did this because of Dell. It was any easy way to get Dell to buy there Windows tax for Linux coupons.
I have a feeling this will not scare the EU as much as really tick them off.
I would love to know what patents you could have on a framebuffer! I think the AppleII, Commodore64, and Atari400/800 are all proof of prior art on that one. Plus wouldn't that be in the count of Kernel violations. I still say it is misleading fud but I would bet you do also.
Unless IIS 7 is can be deployed on Server 2003 then even for developers it is not all that useful.
You can get .NET 3.0 for XP so that doesn't matter.
IIS? for a work station? Who cars. That is for a server.
New version of IE? Available for XP.
A lot of what is useful in Vista is available to XP users.
Yes I was a W2K user as well and XP wasn't a benefit for a good long while.
Easy. Microsoft is claiming 240+ plus patents are infringing on Windows.
Later they claim less than 50 are in the Linux kernel with the other in the GUI and OpenOffice.
That right there is FUD since OpenOffice isn't part of Linux and frankly more people use OpenOffice on Windows than on Linux.
Also Linux doesn't have a GUI. Gnome and KDE are not part of Linux and run on other OSs as well as Linux.
Finally they refuse to what patents are infringing but say the will show them to known Linux users and some distro makers.
Well I am a Linux users which is no known. Show them to me.
Microsoft will not show them because they want to use them to bet money from companies that use Linux or sell Linux. If they show them then they would bet challenged or written around.
That is FUD.
Except what do you gain from Vista?
Most people moved from Windows 98 to XP. They gained a much more secure system in that move and moved to the proven NT kernel from the 95/98/ME codebase.
The move to Vista? I see little gain but eye candy. DirectX 10 may be a big deal and the move from GDI could be important to some people but unlike the move from 98 to XP there is little to gain.
XP to Vista is about as good of a move as from 98 to ME.
Vista is such a small improvement that I am seeing wide spread interest in Linux for the first time. The FAA and NASA are both not jumping onto Vista.
But what is a US company? Is Novell/Suse a US company? And what about companies like the distro formerly called Mandrake? I admit it I hate there new name and can never remember it.
"if linux does potentially violate 283 patents than what should we do about it?"
This one statment is proof of a FUD attack.
Linux doesn't violate 283 patents. The majority of "patent violations" are in OpenOffice and some unamed GUI. Linux doesn't have a GUI. KDE, Gnome, Window maker all run under Linux but also under BSD and I think Gnome runs under Solaris as well. Open Office runs under Linux, OSX, and Windows.
The very claim of 283 patent violations in Linux is misleading.
That is what I was wondering. How the EU would feel about Microsoft going after EU companies with patents that they don't recognize as valid.
The big risk is that they loose and this then taken as evidence of anti-trust. Microsoft is a convicted monopoly after all. They got a wrist slap last time this time could be different.
Since some EU companies are involved could this get Microsoft into even deeper hot water with the EU?
"I'd like to see how a Scientologist would deal with the seriously mentally ill. "
I wouldn't I am just not that cruel.
What I don't like about psychiatry is simply the level of arrogance I see. They as you put it really can't help the most seriously ill but act with such a an air of assurance that it makes me crazy. At least they are honestly trying unlike Scientology which I am not fond of.
Actually several other cars where just as likely to catch fire from from a rear collision. The Datsun had the highest death rate and the same flaw. The VW bug was less likely to catch fire from a rear end collision because the fuel tank was in front. The VW bug where much more likely to suffer a fire since the tank was in the front and frontal impacts tended to be much higher energy than rear impacts. And as one person pointed out that Ford actually one the most import of the court cases.
It is a myth that refuses to die. Besides it is still fashionable to blame a US car company than a Japanese or German company.
Except for.
C: the fix may cause a bug or other issues. Something may stop working.
It also depends on the security problem. If it is a local exploit then it may not be worth fixing right then.
I think everyone is confused here. These are not exploits that they have closed and just haven't decided to end out the patch. These are exploits that the haven't created the patch for. A security team as limited resources. They may have x exploits so it is only logical to fix the most critical first.
It was Ford and it was the Pinto. The problem is.
1. The Pinto even before the "fix" didn't have the highest death rate in it's class. Other small cars had the same death per mile or worse.
2. The NTSA had the dollars per rate figure in the national standards for safety and Ford referenced in in their internal documentation which the lawyer used in the case.
3. Had Ford not identified the risk that a bolt posed to the fuel tank and documented it they probably wouldn't have lost so big in court.
Just thought I would try and kill a myth with some truth. Probably will not work but it is worth a shot.
Okay how many people a year get killed by a gunman walking into a school, office, or shopping mall in the US?
How many people would drills like this save if every sixth grader did the best possible thing in that situation? And I for the life of me don't know what the best possible thing a sixth grader could do!
Now how many people a year drown in swimming pools? Die from lung cancer. Die from heart attacks and stroke. Die in car accidents?
Yes a school shooting is all very dramatic and makes the news but the threat to lives is actually very low.
The time effort and money would be better spent teaching people how to swim, eat right, not smoke, exercise, and to drive a car.
So yes this is dumb and a waste of effort on just about every level.
BTW if they really wanted to do something to prevent school shooting they should work on stopping bullying and teaching people how to be nice to one another. Again not as easy or as sexy and a mass murder drill but probably more more productive in the long run.