*Anhhhhhhhh* Wrong! (what is the accepted onomonopia for that sound?)
The US will continue to dominate in innovative software markets. You are right in that cookie-cutter projects will be moved off shore. For the same reasons that mature industrial manufacturing is. Second and Third world countries excel at immitating cheaply, but are never leaders.
They don't have the memes, they don't have the talent. Talent emmigrates to the US, period [ and we're welcome to have them]. Workers _ARE_ paid according to the dictates of the market. Simple off the shelf tasks are done more cheaply by semi-skilled perl people in India or Russia than by US (slightly inflated prices by the gov't) or EU (highly inflated prices by gov't) techies.
This should be an acceptable situation for everyone, including the pinko population. It is a good deal for everyone, it is called the 'Free Rider Effect'. First world countries leave everyone else in the dust for productivity, innovation, and quality of living. Second and third world countries get something for free - the first world subsidises expensive first generation technologies which then become commodities. Everyone else then gets these at the commodity prices.
The place for the US/EU will always exist. It has shifted, it will shift. Steel, autos, and now some IT are now 'known' and will move production out of the expensive civilized world. Our (US/EU) place is quite secure, however. Just because one sector (take your pick) becomes a commodity doesn't mean the end of the world. No one is garunteed the same job or salary for life. What skills are rare today will not be tomorrow. The benefit of living/working in a first world country is that the rare skills (whatever they are tomorrow) will always be exploitable (lookup exploit/exploitable in the dictionary. Most definitionas are POSITIVE) there. The disadvantage of living in a third world country is that your economy will always be competing in commodity markets. Which is kindof a copout because coutnries that escape that economy are no longer called thrid world:)
I've seen it done with a 5 gallon water coolor bottle. No adjustments to the opening, and just stand it on the ground with the opening pointing up. When Lit it makes a very impressive whitsling noise and a 3" tube of fire shoots about about a foot from the top.
I was about twelve, and the demonstator made the mistake of telling me how it was actually done after the show. During the show he said it was a 'special hard-to-obtain liquid'.
Which is another good point, lie to little kids so they don't hurt themselves.. or burn down their parent's house. (Not that I ever did, but I came close).
Sometimes true, but that implies the methods used for monitoring, and the laws that they monitor for are moral. At a minimum it implies that the good done in monitoring outweighs the bad.
No sane person has problems with cameras in banks and other private places. As long as there are a minority who want a camera-free/guns-alllowed/smoke-free kind of business, there will be one of those businesses available. If not near you, move.
If the minority is too small, you will have to pay a premium for the service (The absolute largest premium would be funding your own private business of that type). If the minority is big enough, it will cost you only the extra time to drive to your preferred place over the other one. If you are in a 49.99% minority, half the time it would be farther to visit the place you dislike
Gov't is a whole nother matter, with monitoring (or your-cause-here) the alternatives become nil quickly. You can change states, but much of law these days is federal law. Your best choice is disobedience (you are the minority, remember?) or eductation - create a majority. Your only choices are disobey a law you find immoral or get the law changed.
People who aren't idiots (minority or majority - your call) fight against gov't particulars that limit choice -because there is only one- and also partonize businesses that cater to their choices.
I'm currently shopping for apartments and a landlord asked me if I have guns in a way that implied they would not be allowed. I'm not living there; not because I have a gun (note to burglars : varried calibers) but because he was advertising to anyone who stopped by that the whole building was likely unarmed.
To quote The Onion RE: NYC smoking ban
"As a bar waitress, I'm glad someone is protecting my right to work in a bar that doesn't make any money."
Shamefull vanity, but I'd like to know how I did. Radical Too (runner-up) was kind enough to post their source (after the competition is over, there isn't much reason not to).
But what about me (Aqua Team Hunger Farce)?
Links to source/explanations of many entries can be found on the ICFP site Here
My entry is listed as well. The order of listing is just when people submitted links to writeups, not the winning order.
The links are never UptoDate, there are LeafPages everywhere with NoContent. Or even worse there are LeafPages that say 'Note to self, put content here.' Half the pages should just be RetiredYesterday but no one ever seems to DoIt.
www.worldforge.org is a PrimeExample. I'd love to know where they are in their CurrentDevelopment, but I can't find a DamnThing on the site.
So what are wikis actually good for? Very short term collaboration and note taking with a very few number of pages. Everything else is just WikiMastrubation.
Everything2 might be a great wiki derivitive but only because they spent alot of time tweaking it for a more specific purpose and threw out alot of the Wikiness.
Scholarly types prefer to abbreviate the same (ibidem) as 'ibid' when referencing the same thing again in footnotes. I don't know why they each picked a different way, it just is.
I know how triangulation 'works' but I don't know the specifics. How close do the three receivers have to be to get decent accuracy?
Having a nation wide network of PCs with these cards would allow you to triangulate pretty much any transmission. Just put your desired frequency into the network and coalate the data from your peers.
Umm, you come very close to arguing that the GPL is more binding than shrink wrap licenses because you personally agree with the GPL, but not the shrink wrap licenses.
Distilled the persuasive part of your argument is "People who violate the GPL do so knowingly, they are engineers who can and do read the source code. Violating the shrink wrap lincense to post benchmarks is as easy as blindly hitting 'Next' in the install script" you might have a point.
FA Hayeck (bigtime libertarian dude) acknowledged that the law may be suspended in times of war. The basic idea is that if you lose everything, then what was the point of playing by the rules. This comes with a _VERY BIG_ but, namely that once order is restored, the government is held responsible for the laws it violated. This isn't to say everyone is put on trial, but they should be required to compensate (how they compensate is left vague) the citizens who were violated.
This is a very sensible view, IMO, but the compensation part is tricky. Especially because once peace is restored, tempers & public sentiment are still running hot and the public (read: voters and hence representatives) may not be in a compassionate mood.
Solar power is nice, and solar powered X [that means insert your appliance here] are doable. What everyone discounts are the energy inputs into making X. Cars [and homes] are very expensive in energy and resources [and the energy to refine those resources] to make. We should make them as self-sustainable as possible - that makes sense - but people shouldn't pretend that we can have everything for free.
C++ guy who did industrial OO perl for two years --
[quick disclaimer, feel free to use ruby or php for a substitute for perl below]
Perl is very good for a much larger range of projects than you think. [with a HUGE deference to C++/OO people, see note at bottom]. Very few sites rely on pure computational power. Most sites only need a small compenent to be fast, and that you can implement in the language of you choice with perl bindings. The majority of your site is glue -- and this is what perl does well.
I worked for a small team (5 developers) that wrote 200k lines of perl in a year and a half. That represents a far larger body of code if it had been written in another language. That isn't to say you lose control by using perl. You get to ignore the details, and in the bargain get a perfect language (and some extra time) to write regression tests.
All in all, unless you are a games site that cares about milliseconds, you can get a page out the door in under.15 seconds with perl. The images loading (even on broadband) will be the gating factor on pageloads.
-spRed
the deference to OO folk, you can teach people who only know C++/Java perl, you can't teach people who only know perl the others. The reason why is that real CS educations are portable. Perl [and other interpreted languages] are looked down upon by CS folk - so only non-CS folk will persue perl as a primary language. Perl is, however, extremely useful for whatever you are doing (95% of you). Give it a chance, it will save you alot of time in the long run.
Uban_Existentialist is just a troll trying to bait the libertarians on/. (I bit, for one)
Take a look at his other comments & Bio. He's either a troll (and I hope he is) or a clueless 16 year old who is hell bent on saving everyone from themeselves. Either way, not someone to be taken seriously.
The idea may have come from the BBS, but it is currently being run on a FOR PROFIT CABLE CHANNEL. The thing is now an American show (with american contestants), albeit they are keeping the orignal co-host (the shows inventor, IIRC).
This should be enough to say thwap you, but I'll rant just in case. You're definition of government fits the definition of charity/parton nicely. The government doesn't have to take taxes and fund public broadcasting. People who like this kind of thing can give to charities/non-profits to do this kind of thing. It might not provide the number of programmes (homage to the commonweatlh types) that you like, but biteme, you didn't pay for them. If you want more stuff you like, pony up, don't ask the government to steal from others just to promote stuff you like.
-Red
ps, It's noon, I'm still hammered from last night, and I have to go code. Be afraid.
cfront was the first C++ compiler,
it was actually just a precompiler that took C++ code, made straight C out of it, and then passed it on to the C compiler.
When some people are getting stuff for free based on arbitrary legislation, that is bad (on this Nader and I agree). His answer seems to be that there is no way to reverse the trend, we can just penalize people he doesn't like (corporations) to try to offset the trend.
If he wants to end special interests, he should be for that. What he is for is an "Us vs Them" voting issue. No man is a corporation, therefore they all sympathise with the "Us" and can safely demonize "Them"
Don't forget that Unions (or any profession that manages to get itself regulated to keep out competition) is playing the same game that corporations do.
-spred
an aside, my favorite analogy for the current tax system [warning, profane] is that eveyone is getting fscked in the ass, but some poeple are getting reach arounds. Instead of trying to repeal laws that are dicking everyone in the ass, people try to curry favor so that they are one of the few that gets a reach around.
Please please please don't equate the form of government (dictatorship, totalitarian government, etc) with the official method they are elected.
Democracies elect all kinds of governments, and often they are non 'liberal' in the classic sense at all. Marx had a funny one liner that goes something like 'Democracy is the system where the people get to pick a new oppressor every few years'.
I would say instead that in democracies people get to pick their leaders every few years, sometimes they are oppressors, and sometimes they are freedom lovin' capitalists (which is how we in the US generally think of democracies).
The primary problem, IMO, is uptime on your network connection. I have mediaone and get regular outages. Sometimes the connection gets flaky for an hour, sometimes it is hosed for half an hour.
Yes, you couldn't get to your uber ISP during this same period either, but at least the mail wouldn't bounce and have to be resent, (which might not happen for hours) arriving long after it was supposed to be delivered.
DIY doesn't work unless you have connections to multiple backbones & redundant power. If you do you might as well start your own ISP.
This is the second shill article posted to/. in the last few days. This is IMHO unacceptable. If you're going to link to pro-democratic rants, then at least complement it with a pro-conservative one.
Slashdot Mirror
*Anhhhhhhhh* Wrong!
:)
(what is the accepted onomonopia for that sound?)
The US will continue to dominate in innovative software markets. You are right in that cookie-cutter projects will be moved off shore. For the same reasons that mature industrial manufacturing is. Second and Third world countries excel at immitating cheaply, but are never leaders.
They don't have the memes, they don't have the talent. Talent emmigrates to the US, period [ and we're welcome to have them]. Workers _ARE_ paid according to the dictates of the market. Simple off the shelf tasks are done more cheaply by semi-skilled perl people in India or Russia than by US (slightly inflated prices by the gov't) or EU (highly inflated prices by gov't) techies.
This should be an acceptable situation for everyone, including the pinko population. It is a good deal for everyone, it is called the 'Free Rider Effect'. First world countries leave everyone else in the dust for productivity, innovation, and quality of living. Second and third world countries get something for free - the first world subsidises expensive first generation technologies which then become commodities. Everyone else then gets these at the commodity prices.
The place for the US/EU will always exist. It has shifted, it will shift. Steel, autos, and now some IT are now 'known' and will move production out of the expensive civilized world. Our (US/EU) place is quite secure, however. Just because one sector (take your pick) becomes a commodity doesn't mean the end of the world. No one is garunteed the same job or salary for life. What skills are rare today will not be tomorrow. The benefit of living/working in a first world country is that the rare skills (whatever they are tomorrow) will always be exploitable (lookup exploit/exploitable in the dictionary. Most definitionas are POSITIVE) there. The disadvantage of living in a third world country is that your economy will always be competing in commodity markets. Which is kindof a copout because coutnries that escape that economy are no longer called thrid world
I've seen it done with a 5 gallon water coolor bottle. No adjustments to the opening, and just stand it on the ground with the opening pointing up. When Lit it makes a very impressive whitsling noise and a 3" tube of fire shoots about about a foot from the top.
.. or burn down their parent's house. (Not that I ever did, but I came close).
I was about twelve, and the demonstator made the mistake of telling me how it was actually done after the show. During the show he said it was a 'special hard-to-obtain liquid'.
Which is another good point, lie to little kids so they don't hurt themselves
Especially when the article is empty
I like Human Rights organizations
I like Free Software
Therefore, Human Rights organizations should use free software.
A pet peeve of mine (and I'd assume your's too) is that the standard definition of Democracy encompasses Republics.
.sig September 11th, 2001: The most successful day for totalitarian government in American history
The most successful attack by totalitarians (The Islamo-Marxist variety) against a democracy?
No sane person has problems with cameras in banks and other private places. As long as there are a minority who want a camera-free/guns-alllowed/smoke-free kind of business, there will be one of those businesses available. If not near you, move. If the minority is too small, you will have to pay a premium for the service (The absolute largest premium would be funding your own private business of that type). If the minority is big enough, it will cost you only the extra time to drive to your preferred place over the other one. If you are in a 49.99% minority, half the time it would be farther to visit the place you dislike
Gov't is a whole nother matter, with monitoring (or your-cause-here) the alternatives become nil quickly. You can change states, but much of law these days is federal law. Your best choice is disobedience (you are the minority, remember?) or eductation - create a majority. Your only choices are disobey a law you find immoral or get the law changed. People who aren't idiots (minority or majority - your call) fight against gov't particulars that limit choice -because there is only one- and also partonize businesses that cater to their choices.
I'm currently shopping for apartments and a landlord asked me if I have guns in a way that implied they would not be allowed. I'm not living there; not because I have a gun (note to burglars : varried calibers) but because he was advertising to anyone who stopped by that the whole building was likely unarmed.
To quote The Onion RE: NYC smoking ban
"As a bar waitress, I'm glad someone is protecting my right to work in a bar that doesn't make any money."
Shamefull vanity, but I'd like to know how I did.
Radical Too (runner-up) was kind enough to post their source (after the competition is over, there isn't much reason not to).
But what about me (Aqua Team Hunger Farce)?
Links to source/explanations of many entries can be found on the ICFP site Here
My entry is listed as well. The order of listing is just when people submitted links to writeups, not the winning order.
I have never seen a WikiWork
The links are never UptoDate, there are LeafPages everywhere with NoContent. Or even worse there are LeafPages that say 'Note to self, put content here.' Half the pages should just be RetiredYesterday but no one ever seems to DoIt.
www.worldforge.org is a PrimeExample. I'd love to know where they are in their CurrentDevelopment, but I can't find a DamnThing on the site.
So what are wikis actually good for? Very short term collaboration and note taking with a very few number of pages. Everything else is just WikiMastrubation.
Everything2 might be a great wiki derivitive but only because they spent alot of time tweaking it for a more specific purpose and threw out alot of the Wikiness.
posted too quickly,
Scholarly types prefer to abbreviate the same (ibidem) as 'ibid' when referencing the same thing again in footnotes.
I don't know why they each picked a different way, it just is.
Or 'idem' and 'id' are both short for ibidem.
But like I said IANAL, I just took a few years of latin...
err, s/Pee-Herman/Pee-Wee Herman/
Tequila! followed by Pee-Herman dancing
I know how triangulation 'works' but I don't know the specifics. How close do the three receivers have to be to get decent accuracy?
Having a nation wide network of PCs with these cards would allow you to triangulate pretty much any transmission. Just put your desired frequency into the network and coalate the data from your peers.
Cool stuff
Umm, you come very close to arguing that the GPL is more binding than shrink wrap licenses because you personally agree with the GPL, but not the shrink wrap licenses.
Distilled the persuasive part of your argument is "People who violate the GPL do so knowingly, they are engineers who can and do read the source code. Violating the shrink wrap lincense to post benchmarks is as easy as blindly hitting 'Next' in the install script" you might have a point.
FA Hayeck (bigtime libertarian dude) acknowledged that the law may be suspended in times of war. The basic idea is that if you lose everything, then what was the point of playing by the rules. This comes with a _VERY BIG_ but, namely that once order is restored, the government is held responsible for the laws it violated. This isn't to say everyone is put on trial, but they should be required to compensate (how they compensate is left vague) the citizens who were violated.
This is a very sensible view, IMO, but the compensation part is tricky. Especially because once peace is restored, tempers & public sentiment are still running hot and the public (read: voters and hence representatives) may not be in a compassionate mood.
-spRed
fscking hippy.
Solar power is nice, and solar powered X [that means insert your appliance here] are doable. What everyone discounts are the energy inputs into making X. Cars [and homes] are very expensive in energy and resources [and the energy to refine those resources] to make. We should make them as self-sustainable as possible - that makes sense - but people shouldn't pretend that we can have everything for free.
-spRed
I visually checked the entire thing, except for the f'ing subject.
1s/nice/niche/
C++ guy who did industrial OO perl for two years --
.15 seconds with perl. The images loading (even on broadband) will be the gating factor on pageloads.
[quick disclaimer, feel free to use ruby or php for a substitute for perl below]
Perl is very good for a much larger range of projects than you think. [with a HUGE deference to C++/OO people, see note at bottom]. Very few sites rely on pure computational power. Most sites only need a small compenent to be fast, and that you can implement in the language of you choice with perl bindings. The majority of your site is glue -- and this is what perl does well.
I worked for a small team (5 developers) that wrote 200k lines of perl in a year and a half. That represents a far larger body of code if it had been written in another language. That isn't to say you lose control by using perl. You get to ignore the details, and in the bargain get a perfect language (and some extra time) to write regression tests.
All in all, unless you are a games site that cares about milliseconds, you can get a page out the door in under
-spRed
the deference to OO folk, you can teach people who only know C++/Java perl, you can't teach people who only know perl the others. The reason why is that real CS educations are portable. Perl [and other interpreted languages] are looked down upon by CS folk - so only non-CS folk will persue perl as a primary language. Perl is, however, extremely useful for whatever you are doing (95% of you). Give it a chance, it will save you alot of time in the long run.
Uban_Existentialist is just a troll trying to bait the libertarians on /. (I bit, for one)
Take a look at his other comments & Bio. He's either a troll (and I hope he is) or a clueless 16 year old who is hell bent on saving everyone from themeselves. Either way, not someone to be taken seriously.
-Red
Are you fscking insane?
The idea may have come from the BBS, but it is currently being run on a FOR PROFIT CABLE CHANNEL. The thing is now an American show (with american contestants), albeit they are keeping the orignal co-host (the shows inventor, IIRC).
This should be enough to say thwap you, but I'll rant just in case. You're definition of government fits the definition of charity/parton nicely. The government doesn't have to take taxes and fund public broadcasting. People who like this kind of thing can give to charities/non-profits to do this kind of thing. It might not provide the number of programmes (homage to the commonweatlh types) that you like, but biteme, you didn't pay for them. If you want more stuff you like, pony up, don't ask the government to steal from others just to promote stuff you like.
-Red
ps, It's noon, I'm still hammered from last night, and I have to go code. Be afraid.
cfront was the first C++ compiler,
it was actually just a precompiler that took C++ code, made straight C out of it, and then passed it on to the C compiler.
When some people are getting stuff for free based on arbitrary legislation, that is bad (on this Nader and I agree). His answer seems to be that there is no way to reverse the trend, we can just penalize people he doesn't like (corporations) to try to offset the trend.
If he wants to end special interests, he should be for that. What he is for is an "Us vs Them" voting issue. No man is a corporation, therefore they all sympathise with the "Us" and can safely demonize "Them"
Don't forget that Unions (or any profession that manages to get itself regulated to keep out competition) is playing the same game that corporations do.
-spred
an aside, my favorite analogy for the current tax system [warning, profane] is that eveyone is getting fscked in the ass, but some poeple are getting reach arounds. Instead of trying to repeal laws that are dicking everyone in the ass, people try to curry favor so that they are one of the few that gets a reach around.
Politics:
Please please please don't equate the form of government (dictatorship, totalitarian government, etc) with the official method they are elected.
Democracies elect all kinds of governments, and often they are non 'liberal' in the classic sense at all. Marx had a funny one liner that goes something like 'Democracy is the system where the people get to pick a new oppressor every few years'.
I would say instead that in democracies people get to pick their leaders every few years, sometimes they are oppressors, and sometimes they are freedom lovin' capitalists (which is how we in the US generally think of democracies).
-spRed
The primary problem, IMO, is uptime on your network connection. I have mediaone and get regular outages. Sometimes the connection gets flaky for an hour, sometimes it is hosed for half an hour.
Yes, you couldn't get to your uber ISP during this same period either, but at least the mail wouldn't bounce and have to be resent, (which might not happen for hours) arriving long after it was supposed to be delivered.
DIY doesn't work unless you have connections to multiple backbones & redundant power. If you do you might as well start your own ISP.
-spRed
This is the second shill article posted to /. in the last few days. This is IMHO unacceptable. If you're going to link to pro-democratic rants, then at least complement it with a pro-conservative one.
-spREd