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Portable Scanner Solutions for Research?

Fished asks: "Lately, I'm finding that I need to do a lot of research in Libraries -- remember those? I'm tired of feeding dimes to the copiers, and would like to buy some kind of portable scanner to go with my Powerbook. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find one that will work. Back in the eighties, this were as common as dirt: they were small, four inch wide scanners that you could run over the page. Also, while I've found three portable scanners for PC's (from Antec and Pentax) even if I could somehow get them to work with Mac OS X, they are sheet-fed, which is useless for scanning pages out of books. Does anyone still make the old-fashioned Hand Scanners, and do they make them for Macs?"

421 comments

  1. Copyright by DrLudicrous · · Score: 0, Funny

    Watch out, the next thing you know the DMCP will be attacking scanners too, hand-held or not.

    1. Re:Copyright by cdf12345 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      DMCP? Wtf?

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    2. Re:Copyright by DrLudicrous · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      WTF indeed! I meant DMCA, so my bad, and a big ole DOH on me.

    3. Re:Copyright by zamokzam · · Score: 5, Informative

      I've used (and use) the HP Capshare but I find it too badly designed, ergonomically and electronically (almost a study in bad design), to make for pleasant scanning. Nowadays, I generally use a Sony Vaio notebook and a USB scanner, a CanoScan 670U. The Canon scanner is powered via the USB 1.1 port so I needn't bring a brick to the library, and I can choose exactly the type of scan necessary for the material I'm using (everything from B&W text through 600dpi full color). I don't think the scanner weighs two pounds, it's only about an inch thick, and the scan area is 8.5"X11". And it cost under a $100 at CompUSA.

    4. Re:Copyright by spoonist · · Score: 1
      DMCP = Digital Millennium Copyright Police

      They're the government agency whose charter is to enforce the DMCA.

    5. Re:Copyright by Audiophyle · · Score: 4, Informative

      I use the same scanner, although they call it the CanoScan LiDE 20 now. It works with OS X, so my Powerbook G4 is happy. It scans well, it's portable, and it works with Macs, and it's about the same size as the Powerbook, so you could throw it in your carrying case most likely.

    6. Re:Copyright by betanerd · · Score: 0

      Canon has a new model out now( Canon LiDE 30). Same basic specs as the one you have but thinner and faster. It retails for around $99.98

      http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/sku.asp?Pa ge Type=1&Sku=493663&bcFlag=True&bcSCatId=3&bcSCatNam e=Technology&bcCatId=72&bcCatName=Scanners&bcClass Id=141848&bcClassName=Flatbed+Scanners

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    7. Re:Copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried a few scanners like that before. The reason you can't find one anymore is that they where horrible. If you find one that works well let me know, but it is difficult to find one that can move at a consistent speed over the document. Good Luck though.

    8. Re:Copyright by breaking_robots · · Score: 1

      I also have the Cano Scan N670U usb scanner. Like they said, it will fit in a backpack, it is light weight and scans nicely.

    9. Re:Copyright by blibbleblobble · · Score: 1

      "DMCP? Wtf?

      Disney's Mounted Canadian Police

  2. 1st post by MaxVolume · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yes I remember those. A usb update of them would be sweet. Or how about a beowulf cluster?

  3. Digital Camera + OCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    That'll do it, yes sir.

    1. Re:Digital Camera + OCR by kalidasa · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah, yes, the digital version of the Hogan's Heroes approach.

    2. Re:Digital Camera + OCR by nackrm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While the digital camera thing would work, I doubt anyone would seriously want to go through the hassle of getting OCR to work right. For that you'd have to almost set up a tripod to get perfect uniform pictures. While I haven't tried anything like this, I can imagine all of the problems with the recognition of text. Reading or printing the images when done should be fine for most people. That or you could always try to find an online version of the text you use, but I'm sure you've already tried this route, since not everything is online (yet).

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    3. Re:Digital Camera + OCR by coryboehne · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've done this and provided the camera is of at least 2.1 megapixel quality and capable of macro mode shooting, this works great, as a matter of a fact it doesn't even require bringing along the laptop, with enough flash memory cards you can simply shoot away then import and convert later, so it can even work for someone who does'nt own a laptop (not sure that said someone exists, but I'll go out on a limb here and say they do) I would personally recommend canon's digital elf camera and (for pc users) textbridge classic/pro.

    4. Re:Digital Camera + OCR by FeatherBoa · · Score: 3, Informative

      I doubt anyone would seriously want to go through the hassle of getting OCR to work right.

      I Don't think it's that bad. I haven't tried it myself, but some other Project Gutenberg contributors have reported reasonable success with this. The depth-of-field of most flatbed scanners is very narrow, while the DOF of a digital camera is typically gargantuan. This means that fragile books can be photographed without having to flatten them out (and damage them) and without needing an expensive planetary or prism scanner. The OCR side of things would most likely be taken in stride by (shameless plug) Abbyy Finereader. Basically Finereader will reliably OCR all kinds of wacky stuff, and beats the piss out of all the others, hands down.

    5. Re:Digital Camera + OCR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Hogan's Heroes approach involves the camera being inside a household appliance.

    6. Re:Digital Camera + OCR by theBrownfury · · Score: 1

      Believe it or not OCR software is much much smarter than that. I can't speak for accuracy but OCR pakages these days can actually correct for skewed lines. I work in a university lab where we OCR tons of material to prepare for braille etc. and the batch processing sheetfed scanner we have often sucks pages in such that the pages get scanned at all sort of awkward angles. OmniPage pro and a few other competitors can actually corrent for this skewing and fix it, remarkly well too.

      The main question to ask with the whole digicam + OCR setup is what DPI photos does your digicam produce? Anything less than 240DPI and you're toast because your OCR program is just going to cry!

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    7. Re:Digital Camera + OCR by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1
      so it can even work for someone who does'nt own a laptop (not sure that said someone exists, but I'll go out on a limb here and say they do)
      ahem. you better mark that as joke, because otherwise it could be misinterpreted as a very ignorant remark.

      the reason i do mind a comment is that i want to make a connection here, you see? it is student and notebook prices... :)
      and maybe there are not as many nb's as you think there are...

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    8. Re:Digital Camera + OCR by giberti · · Score: 1

      The poster didn't ask for OCR, they asked how they could make some copys of text. So I think the digital camera solution will work for this user.

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    9. Re:Digital Camera + OCR by coryboehne · · Score: 1

      whoops, my oversight, meant to add a :) to the end of that, oh well, apparently you recognized it as such, so I'll just hope everyone else will too.

  4. HP CapShare by ChaoticPenguin · · Score: 5, Informative

    Several years ago, HP ha a product called CapShare. A really cool handheld scanner that has an on-device LCD screen that you can perform simple functions like editing, rotating, etc. with. You can then transfer via infrared to your laptop or, better, to a printer! Unfortunately, this product has now been discontinued. I used it for a while, and it was great, except for one thing -- most of the pages that I need to scan from the library are bound -- and the words near the spine tend to become unreadable...

    1. Re:HP CapShare by qurob · · Score: 1


      I seen one of these about 3 years ago. It auto-stitched the image together, it was well ahead of its time.

    2. Re:HP CapShare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The CapShare was great, it's downfall was the cost was too high for the target audience, college students. The technology in it gave us the current generation of optical mice.

  5. I'll have bubble gum pink please. by Spamuel · · Score: 1, Funny

    If they do make them for Macs, I'm willing to bet they come in six different colors. :)

    1. Re:I'll have bubble gum pink please. by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Oh funny. Let's all make jokes about marketting gimmicks from three years ago. "Food, Folks and Fun, hahaha. Oh Ronald McDonald, when will you learn?"

      Seriously, dude, they moved to an all white and chrome motif a while ago. Get over it.

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    2. Re:I'll have bubble gum pink please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm, you sound just like Compaq when it comes to colors...about 2 years behind.

      Go to apple's website and tell me how many fruit-flavored colors you find. Apple made the leap into colors as an experiment. They ditched colors, but still came away from it with the best looking computers around.

    3. Re:I'll have bubble gum pink please. by JWW · · Score: 2

      Ok, now they only come in platinum and white. ;-)

    4. Re:I'll have bubble gum pink please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut the fuck up, fool.

  6. Logitech by DBordello · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Logitech use to make them. I am not sure if they still do (doubt it). It was black and white and about 6in wide. I never really liked it much, the software sucked at combining multiple swipes into one fluid page. It was TWAIN compatible. If you do manage to find one, I am sure it will run on the linux distro that I know you have on your Mac :)

    1. Re:Logitech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Logitech went out of the scanner business several years ago.

    2. Re:Logitech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had one of these, but a color version. Not much use for portable scanning as it required an ISA card for its interface.

    3. Re:Logitech by AciDive · · Score: 1

      Mac OSX is not a derivative of Linux, it is a derivative of FreeBSD with a different kernel slide in underneath. Next time you are going to slam someone for using a Mac at least know what you are talking about before you open your mouth.

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    4. Re:Logitech by Lord+Squirrel · · Score: 1

      ummm...I think he was making a funny...and how does opening a mouth relate to typing a post?

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    5. Re:Logitech by jdreed1024 · · Score: 5, Informative
      These were called the "ScanMan". They came in color, B&W, and Hi-Res (600dpi!) versions. They were quite useful, for their size, but the Mac versions were often bulky, had a SCSI interface (which use that stupid HDI-30 connector on powerbooks, if you have a powerbook that had a SCSI connector), and required a separate interface box for the A/C adapter and SCSI connector.

      I have one which I'll gladly sell to you. :-)

      That having been said, get a Logitech QuickCam 2000 (or QuickCam Pro). It's USB, it's small, it's a good resolution, it comes with a small desktop tripod. The advantage is that in addition to using it to take pictures of printed matter, you can use it to take pictures of the microfilm reader displays. You can't do that with a scanner. It paid for itself twice-over when I did a research project two years ago. On the downside, however, it doesn't work with Linux (AFAICT) or MacOS.

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    6. Re:Logitech by unitron · · Score: 2
      I've got a Logitech Scanman that I picked up used a few years ago. Anyone got a copy of Windows 1.x or 2.x so that I can actually use it? Maybe then I could use my brother's old Logitech mouse as well.

      Don't by anything from Logitech if you ever want to update any of your software.

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    7. Re:Logitech by MrChuck · · Score: 1
      MacOS X's userland is a derivative of FreeBSD. The kernel is a Mac 3.x based kernel. Just like the previous versions of MacOS X, NeXTStep and OpenStep, were Mach 2.x and BSD 4.3 based.

      That said, Suse runs just wonderfully on my Mac, as does NetBSD.

      Suse Linux is a derivative of Linux... or something like that :)

      I can even run NetBSD diskless on the powerbook by typing "boot net" at the Ok prompt (oddly, wireless diskless booting doesn't work with the OpenBootProm). I'm still waiting for PeeCee's to have a real boot prom instead of that BIOS crap.

    8. Re:Logitech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The parent is probably El Generoso in disguise. I mean, he said "Fucknugget." That's very funny, although not as fun as "Butt Pirate" or "Anal Absconder."

    9. Re:Logitech by panZ · · Score: 1

      ...and the next time you slam someone for suggesting running linux on a mac, think before opening your mouth. The previous poster is probably making some generalized statement like; if you're on slashdot, you probably/should have at least one machine running linux and that the scanner he mentioned will run on linux. He made no mention of OS X. I happen to have 3 macs, all of them have at least one partition running debian for linux network development from my academic days, aside from another mac os. So if he likes that scanner, he might be able to use it with linux on his mac.

      My suggestion to the scanner issue is get one of those $80 ultra slim USB flatbed scanners. My best friend has one for his Pismo mac laptop that fits perfectly in his bag with his laptop and I belive is bus powered though I think it'd be difficult running a scanner bulb with less than 300mA. I think its a cannon like this one but older and not USB2.0. They used to make a high end for $120 and a low end at $90 but I'm sure older models are super cheap these days.
      lastly, I have indeed used my 2.1 mega pixel digital elph to take macro pictures of pages and OCR them later. It works fine.

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    10. Re:Logitech by jdreed1024 · · Score: 2
      I've got a Logitech Scanman that I picked up used a few years ago. Anyone got a copy of Windows 1.x or 2.x so that I can actually use it? Maybe then I could use my brother's old Logitech mouse as well. Don't by anything from Logitech if you ever want to update any of your software.

      <HUMOR> I've got a Seagate MFM hard drive that I picked up used a few years ago. Anyone got an IBM XT so that I can actually use it? Maybe then I could use my Dell CGA monitor as well. Don't buy anything from Seagate or Dell if you ever want to update any of your software. </HUMOR>

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    11. Re:Logitech by unitron · · Score: 2
      Actually you could probably put that drive and an MFM controller board into your newest motherboard that still has an ISA slot and use it. I'll have to dig out one of my old MFM's or RLL's and try it.

      My problem with Logitech is that the products aren't really different from the newer ones, they just can't be bothered to provide updated drivers, which prematurely orphans the hardware.

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  7. Use a digital camera. by scott1853 · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Seriously. My GF has used ours to take pictures of the monitor when 98 locked up while she was writing letters.

    A 2MP should probably work just fine, and if you have a laptop with you, just upload them, erase the card and grab another x pages.

    1. Re:Use a digital camera. by CreepyNinja · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Damn straight, just cut out the middle-man.

      It is interesting to see that scanner prices have dropped with better and better digicams going on the market. It's portable, you have less resolution lost, and it's faster thanks to firewire.

    2. Re:Use a digital camera. by qurob · · Score: 0


      C'mon mods...

      Consumer Digital Cameras SUCK for taking pictures of books and printed pages!

      Besides, you can't do things like OCR them afterwards

    3. Re:Use a digital camera. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      OCR software works with tiffs or jpegs just like the ones from digital cameras. Might want to convert to b&w first though

    4. Re:Use a digital camera. by edrugtrader · · Score: 0, Redundant

      why can't i do OCR on them afterwards??? either way the end results is an IMAGE

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    5. Re:Use a digital camera. by DarkSword · · Score: 1

      Yep, I use my CoolPix 880 to take pictures of printed material. They actually have a setting for taking pictures of printed pages.

    6. Re:Use a digital camera. by ichthus · · Score: 1

      Um, yes you can. Most will work with any [popular] image format, and if not, save it to a TIFF.

      Most OCR progs only scan at 100 - 150 DPI. 1 megapixel is more than adequate for an OCR engine.

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    7. Re:Use a digital camera. by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2

      Acutally, this isn't such a bad idea. Get a nice camera with macro and you're much more likely to get a high res readable image than you are with a hand scanner. Those things like to skew off their wheels and are no good for use with big books (spine) or older books (they touch the page...not something you want when doing research in century old issues of "Punch" magazine).

      I've resisted buying a scanner for a long time due to their bulk and my tendency to have a clutter filled desk. Digital cameras are great for recording tax documents and carbon copies of letters where the gist is more important that a high dpi reproduction of the original.

      Just do yourself this favour: don't use the flash! Instead, take the shot from high up with florescent lighting. Close up flash on bright paper is a good way to end up with unreadable images, and reading is fundamental to this project.

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    8. Re:Use a digital camera. by Schnapple · · Score: 2

      you do realize of course that, walking into a library, finding a book and taking a picture of it will make you look like a wannabe spy? Hey, that could be fun - top it off with a trenchcoat, fedora and sunglasses. And go for a book like Mein Kampf or something. Hilarity will ensue...

    9. Re:Use a digital camera. by Arcturax · · Score: 2

      Good advice. Another reason not to use the flash is you will greatly extend battery life while using it.

      I also suggest setting it to high compression and to black and white mode. You will then be able to store thousands of shots on a 128 MB card (or hundreds at 32 or 64). That and turn down the resolution a bit, to about 1.3 MP should be good enough. This might save you from having to lug a heavy laptop along with you.

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    10. Re:Use a digital camera. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You GF also used it to take a picture of my massive schlong, after we finished playing hide the salami for an hour or so.

    11. Re:Use a digital camera. by Choron · · Score: 1

      That would be great, but I don't know any digital camera that can record at 2 bpp, or even 4. Do you know any ?

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    12. Re:Use a digital camera. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen his schlong and it really isn't all that large. More like hide the Crayola crayon, I'm afraid.

    13. Re:Use a digital camera. by amlutias · · Score: 1

      my old crappy mavica, the highest end one before it came with a cd-r, has an actual document mode, that's straight up black and white.

      mvc-fd97.

  8. They didn't work... by stankulp · · Score: 1
    ...worth beans then, I doubt they are any better now.


    Try a digitial camera in macro mode. I bet it would work.

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    1. Re:They didn't work... by denisbergeron · · Score: 1

      >Try a digitial camera in macro mode. I bet it would work.

      Then, try a mpeg of the page and then try the little utility on slashdot some week ago to combine video picture to echeance the quality, after that you just need a good OCR :-)

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    2. Re:They didn't work... by Iguanaphobic · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fuji S602Z in Macro mode and Textbridge 8.0. Take it as a 6MP tiff file (19MB) at 6in. to 12in. from the page (distance didn't seem to matter) and I got it all. Worked on my copy of Unfinished Tales printed in 1966.

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    3. Re:They didn't work... by dildatron · · Score: 3, Informative

      You are right about that. It is harder than you think to move at a perfectly constant speed so the image scans in without stretch or distortion. Not to mention, scanning to 4" wide swaths and stitching them together (even with good software) takes time. I had two of these scanners, and while they were neat I certainly hope I never have to use one again. If there was any demand for them, they would be plentiful. Fortunately, good ol' supply and demand took care of them and they are now happily scanning our landfills.

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    4. Re:They didn't work... by extropalopakettle · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I had one. You had to drag it down the page at an incredibly slow and constant rate.

    5. Re:They didn't work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet, have the camera in whiteboard mode if it has it, so you only get a white background and black text, easier to read when translating it from an image.

    6. Re:They didn't work... by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      IIRC, some handheld scanners had a wheel that you slid along the page. The speed the wheel moved controlled the scan.

    7. Re:They didn't work... by dildatron · · Score: 2

      You remember correctly, but you must also remember that most of these scanners were parallel port scanners. If you scanned very quickly at all or slipped a little while scanning, too bad. You can only shove so much data down that pipe at one instance. In theory, it worked ok, but in practice I was never really satisfied.

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    8. Re:They didn't work... by rworne · · Score: 1
      Funny how those things disappeared about the same time DAK Industries (remember them?) did. They sold tons of them with other wierd off-the-wall computer peripherals from their catalog. DAK was sort of like Sharper Image, but with cheaper prices and products.

      DAK probably cleaned out Logitech and the other hand-held scanner makers of their inventory and then disappeared into a wormhole.

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    9. Re:They didn't work... by mfnickster · · Score: 1

      Oh, I remember DAK all right... I think they were more like Tiger Direct than Sharper Image, selling mostly audio, video and other electronic gizmos.

      Their strategy was something like this:

      1. Buy discontinued/remaindered junk at near cost
      2. Rave about its quality in their catalog
      3. Provide easy credit card ordering and shipping
      4. ???
      5. Profit!

      Heh heh. They never did get any of my money. They're still around, apparently:

      DAK 2000

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    10. Re:They didn't work... by rworne · · Score: 1
      I guess I didn't make "cheap" associate with product well enough. I made the Sharper image connection because Tiger Direct never mails me any catalogs.

      They were neat, especially if you ever went into their store in Canoga Park. I am suprised to see them again. Unfortunately, my memories are a lot fonder than what I see when I am confronted with them now.

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  9. Small Flatbed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I have seen several versions of small flatbed scanners; not much bigger than my notebook. Although not designed for portability, they are light and compact. As long as you can find a place to plug thenm in, I think this would be a perfect solution. Plus, they can be had for under $70 retail.

    1. Re:Small Flatbed by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Cannon makes a nice small flatbed, called the N656U. That's the one I have anyway, they probably have a newer model now. What's great is that there is no external power source required, just that supplied by your usb port (would this kill the laptop battery), anyway, just a suggestion, you might want to check it out.

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    2. Re:Small Flatbed by Duck_Taffy · · Score: 1

      The newer model is the Canon LIDE 30, and it's ideal to go with a PowerBook, because it's only one inch thick, and barely longer or wider than a sheet of legal paper, so it should fit next to the laptop in a bag just fine.

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    3. Re:Small Flatbed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, sure it would kill the laptop's batteries. That's why you always cary the adapter with you. Seriously, it is far better to only have to carry one power brick.

    4. Re:Small Flatbed by lkk17 · · Score: 1

      I have this Cannon scanner, and it's great. As small as a TiBook and half the weight, lid can be removed or the hinge widened to accommodate books, no brick needed (draws power over USB).

      The catch with the older N656U model is that the driver for OS X only works as a Photoshop plugin or under Classic. I've tried the OCR under Classic too, works like a champ.

    5. Re:Small Flatbed by khoward1 · · Score: 1

      I've got the N670, which also required Photoshop or Classic. Luckily I found some software called "Vuescan" on Apple's OSX downloads page that works with all the Canoscan models. I recommend it.

  10. Digital cameras by madsenj37 · · Score: 0

    ... they are cheap and os x compatible.

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    1. Re:Digital cameras by madsenj37 · · Score: 0

      iPhoto will make it easy to print em all. http://www.apple.com/iphoto/compatibility/

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  11. Digital camera? by Paul+Neubauer · · Score: 1

    Perhaps not ideal for your purpose, but could a digital camera, with 'macro' feature be used rather than a scanner? The camera would still connect to the computer, and be useful as a camera as well as a scanner substitute.

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    1. Re:Digital camera? by fgb · · Score: 1

      I don't think you would need a macro feature. Most digital cameras I've used take good pictures a foot or so away; which is what you would need to grab a whole page. You use macro mode to get really close (1" away) pictures.

    2. Re:Digital camera? by AragornSonOfArathorn · · Score: 1

      I have a Ricoh RDC-7 digital camera and it has a nifty document capture mode, where it takes pictures as B/W TIFFs. And with 3.3MP, you get a lot of detail. It takes decent regular pictures, too. Also does video.

      You could probably send the document TIFFs thru an OCR, but I've never tried this myself.

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  12. obviously google can answer this question by Leimy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    why do people post this stuff?? Search Ebay... google... you have an internet connection... I know you do you lazy bastard!!!

    1. Re:obviously google can answer this question by dildatron · · Score: 2
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    2. Re:obviously google can answer this question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IANADM (I am not a dennis miller)

      Thank god somebody finally said it. I think there are trolls who just sit around and think up things to post to "Ask slashdot" in order to appear intelligent, progressive, or important. And the ones that actually have a question that does not qualify under the rant above usually can find the answers they seek in previous "Ask Slashdot" articles. Ask Slashdot does not enhance my web experience at all! "Oh, look at me. I use Mac OS X and I do research in libraries. I also remember computing in the eighties." Jesus people! Every single day relatively smart people "can't find something" on the internet. My roommate was looking for a particular bass guitar solo by a specific artist the other day. He started at google and put in the name of the specific artist. Then he complained that he couldn't find it. I told him to add the word "solo" to his search. First hit at the top. Sheesh. google://"mac os x" "portable scanner" returns a whole slew of good hits. idiot.....

    3. Re:obviously google can answer this question by the_machine · · Score: 1

      I dunno, today has been kind of slow on Slashdot. I appreciated getting something new to read. I don't know if I would read something about cleaning one's penis though.

    4. Re:obviously google can answer this question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what are
      Have you every tried using a single line pen scanner to do actual work? If not let me tell you if you are trying to scan more that a full page of information it is a PAIN

      you
      ISA card ... floppies... ITS AN APPLE LAPTOP!!! -think about it for a second

      talking
      "Mac compatibility only with Virtual PC CD-ROM Drive"
      Lets just spend another ~$130-$250 to get THIS to work

      about - ummm ok good luck finding this one ...pst that article is from 99, and after seaching for about ohh 2hrs i only found ONE and that was an Ebay Auction with 23hrs left to go.

  13. Jesus Tits by kuroth · · Score: 4, Funny

    Try Google

    What's next? "Ask Slashdot: Getting Drops Off My Cock After Pissing"?

    1. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "Ask Slashdot: Getting Drops Off My Cock After Pissing"

      In this case it can only be a woman - the evidence is overwhelming - apple powerbook, libraries, can't work google/ebay. Must be a woman. Gotta be.

    2. Re:Jesus Tits by Psmylie · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would recommend the Ronco (tm) Electric Penis Dryer (patent pending).

      --

      psmylie's dictionary: Godzillion (noun) Any number large enough to destroy Tokyo

    3. Re:Jesus Tits by g_bit · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You're disgusting. You know you don't have to be obnoxious to make a point. What'r you 13 years old?

    4. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't believe you said that to him and *not* the guy that said "I wipe it off on his face". Fuck, you're twisted.

    5. Re:Jesus Tits by orion67 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      "Ask Slashdot: Avoiding Ask Slashdot Posts From Mindless Lazy Bastards?"

    6. Re:Jesus Tits by wordprocessing · · Score: 1, Troll

      google doesn't always work.. ever spent hours trying to find something using those search engines? the original poster must've been looking for some knowledgeable slashdotter who can help him/her solve the problem.

    7. Re:Jesus Tits by Didion+Sprague · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What I'd like to know is what the fuck is up with guys who step waaaaay back from the urinal and then whip-whacks the drips off so everybody and his brother (a) gets a unpleasant glimpse of limp pecker and (b) gets an ass-spatter if they're standing in the wrong place.

      Cripes.

      But to answer your question: I, too, recommend a digital camera. I use a Nikon Coolpix 900 and it focusses just fine on text. I have to steady myself with my elbows, but 95% of the shots are at least legible.

      OCR is a good idea.

      Me, I just use the camera technique for getting free porn from the library when I go up to the periodical desk, request the latest Playboy, and then go find a carrol that's out of the way so I can start snapping.

    8. Re:Jesus Tits by /dev/trash · · Score: 0, Troll

      Dude? You have that too? If you find out what it is, please let me know.

    9. Re:Jesus Tits by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...the Ronco (tm) Electric Penis Dryer...

      Typical Americans. Spend a billion to develop a pen that will write in space, and the Russians use a pencil.

      Spend Millions developing an Electric Penis Dryer(tm) when the rest of the world just uses their pant leg. When will they learn? How many children could have been fed on those development costs?

      Think of the children! (not to mention the shocking results of the lab testing on that product!)

      --
      "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." Mark Twain
    10. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. Jesus hates tits.

    11. Re:Jesus Tits by BagOBones · · Score: 1

      NASA thought that using a pencil put the onboard compters at risk of sorting if a led broke and floated into the system.. You would also have to be very carefull with the shavings.

      then again you see them playing with large drops of water floating in the cabin.....

      --
      EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
    12. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds cool .. does it work with regular penises or just electric ones?

    13. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Electric ones only

    14. Re:Jesus Tits by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      You can even use it on your dog!

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    15. Re:Jesus Tits by bheerssen · · Score: 1

      You can shake, break it,
      Bang it on the wall
      But you have to put in your pants
      For the last drop to fall.

      --
      (Score: -1, Stupid)
    16. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy moly, just how big is your unit? Your pant leg? For Christ's sake!

    17. Re:Jesus Tits by MicroBerto · · Score: 2

      And remember -- If you shake it more than 3 times, you're officially wackin' it!!

      --
      Berto
    18. Re:Jesus Tits by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1


      I almost hate to do this.

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    19. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5 times and I'm done.

    20. Re:Jesus Tits by metsfan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wrong.

      http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.h tm

    21. Re:Jesus Tits by AzrealAO · · Score: 5, Informative

      Great Urban Legend.

      A) NASA didn't invent the pen, Fischer did, and sold it to Nasa, and it didn't cost Billions.

      B) Pencils are terrible in space, all the little graphite dust gets into the electronics, causing shorts. Not a good idea on a space craft.

      NASA never asked Paul C. Fisher to produce a pen. When the astronauts began to fly, like the Russians, they used pencils, but the leads sometimes broke and became a hazard by floating in the [capsule's] atmosphere where there was no gravity. They could float into an eye or nose or cause a short in an electrical device. In addition, both the lead and the wood of the pencil could burn rapidly in the pure oxygen atmosphere. Paul Fisher realized the astronauts needed a safer and more dependable writing instrument, so in July 1965 he developed the pressurized ball pen, with its ink enclosed in a sealed, pressurized ink cartridge. Fisher sent the first samples to Dr. Robert Gilruth, Director of the Houston Space Center. The pens were all metal except for the ink, which had a flash point above 200C. The sample Space Pens were thoroughly tested by NASA. They passed all the tests and have been used ever since on all manned space flights, American and Russian. All research and developement costs were paid by Paul Fisher. No development costs have ever been charged to the government.

      Because of the fire in Apollo 1, in which three Astronauts died, NASA required a writing instrument that would not burn in a 100% oxygen atmosphere. It also had to work in the extreme conditions of outer space:

      1. In a vacuum. 2. With no gravity. 3. In hot temperatures of +150C in sunlight and also in the cold shadows of space where the temperatures drop to -120C

      (NASA tested the pressurized Space Pens at -50C, but because of the residential [sic] heat in the pen it also writes for many minutes in the cold shadows.)

      Fisher spent over one million dollars in trying to perfect the ball point pen before he made his first successful pressurized pens in 1965. Samples were immediately sent to Dr. Robert Gilruth, Manager of the Houston Space Center, where they were thoroughly tested and approved for use in Space in September 1965. In December 1967 he sold 400 Fisher Space Pens to NASA for $2.95 each.

      Lead pencils were used on all Mercury and Gemini space flights and all Russian space flights prior to 1968. Fisher Space Pens are more dependable than lead pencils and cannot create the hazard of a broken piece of lead floating through the gravity-less atmosphere. http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.htm

    22. Re:Jesus Tits by kuroth · · Score: 1

      >You know you don't have to be obnoxious to make a point.

      Of course not. It certainly helps, though.

      >What'r you 13 years old?

      Yes. I'm a 13 year old with a five-digit UID.

      Fuck off, newbie.

    23. Re:Jesus Tits by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 3, Informative

      Spend a billion to develop a pen that will write in space, and the Russians use a pencil.

      I hate to be an OT stick-in-the-mud, but I've seen this jab quite a bit and I have to respond. Simply put, it's BS. Read about it here.

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      Evil is the money of root.
    24. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could have just given us the link like the guy you copied from - you whore.

    25. Re:Jesus Tits by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 2
      I realize it's an urban legend, but it's a funny one. Think the Electric Penis Dryer is real? It's a joke! Laugh!

      --
      "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." Mark Twain
    26. Re:Jesus Tits by EvanED · · Score: 2

      Maybe you could try READING IT... the link is there at the end.

    27. Re:Jesus Tits by g_bit · · Score: 1
      Of course not. It certainly helps, though.

      Yes, if you want to be perceived as an immature little boy for the rest of your life :)

      Yes. I'm a 13 year old with a five-digit UID.
      Fuck off, newbie.

      Oh, your wit is sooo charming. I didn't catch the UID, I just used the obvious evidence to come to that conclusion. You must think I'm a newbie because I didn't laugh at your low-brow attempt at humor. The 'F' word is your best friend isn't it? Always resort to it in an argument don't you? Well, that'll get you far in life, what are you a 'Refuse Engineer'?

      Now, run along and post more things about body parts...really the humor lasts forever!

    28. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what the fuck was the point of putting it at the end, fucktard?

    29. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great! At last some good news.

    30. Re:Jesus Tits by jsprat · · Score: 2
      It slices, it dices, it... no wait, that was the Bass-O-Matic.

      Ouch!

    31. Re:Jesus Tits by kuroth · · Score: 1

      >Oh, your wit is sooo charming.

      Thanks!

      >You must think I'm a newbie because I didn't laugh at your low-brow attempt at humor.

      No, you're a newbie because you're user #253703. When was that number issued? Last week?

      >The 'F' word is your best friend isn't it?

      A logical conclusion, given that I've used it exactly once in this thread.

      >Always resort to it in an argument don't you?

      Only when I'm feeding the trolls.

      >Well, that'll get you far in life, what are you a 'Refuse Engineer'?

      It's "Sanitation Engineer", thank you very much.

    32. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> I just use the camera technique for getting free porn from the library when I go up to the periodical desk, request the latest Playboy, and then go find a carrol that's out of the way so I can start snapping.

      You think PLAYBOY is porn???

    33. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. I'm a 13 year old with a five-digit UID.

      You and a hundred thousand other people. Get a life.

    34. Re:Jesus Tits by brad3378 · · Score: 2

      great post! - I had no idea that was another urban legend.

      Too bad they couldn't use crayolas instead ;-)

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    35. Re:Jesus Tits by EvanED · · Score: 2

      Citations traditionally follow the material. Perhaps you should look back at your notes from middle-school English class.

    36. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is the funniest comment all week - thanks for making my friday :)

    37. Re:Jesus Tits by vaxer · · Score: 2
      the Ronco (tm) Electric Penis Dryer


      That's no good to me -- my penis isn't electric.
    38. Re:Jesus Tits by Fished · · Score: 2
      Actually, I am the original poster, and you would be correct. The problem seems to have been that instead of using the phrase "handheld scanner" I used the phrase "hand scanner". The latter is what they were called back in the eighties, but is apparently now technical argot for a bar-code scanner.


      I also tried "portable scanner" and "+portable +scanner", etc. The "use google" responses are perpetually lame, because it can sometimes be impossible to find something on google if you don't know exactly what it's called.

      --
      "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
    39. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This would be a valid argument only if the citation were [block]quoted.

    40. Re:Jesus Tits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...request the latest Playboy, and then go find a carrol that's out of the way so I can start snapping

      snapping? is that what they're calling it these days?

  14. Handheld scanners!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Handheld scanners were useless for scanning books. Most books are too wide for a handheld scanner and you have to stitch together your scans - a VERY awkward process. And even if you can scan the whole width of the page, the roller used to detect when the scanner was moving would go off the bottom of the page of the book before you scanned the final line of text!

    In short - forget about the handheld scanner idea. They do sell line scanners that read in lines of text at a time if you just need short segments. I suppose you could even take pictures of the pages with the new high megapixel digital cameras.

    1. Re:Handheld scanners!? by giminy · · Score: 2

      But you could just run the scanner sideways (that's what I always did) to make longer "strips" of the pages. Then just fire up your favorite picture editor and do a simple rotate operation.

      Still, I'd suggest a decent digital camera. I use mine for books on occassion and it has always worked just peachy. I never tried OCR with the pictures but it might even work...

      --
      The Right Reverend K. Reid Wightman,
    2. Re:Handheld scanners!? by MikeFM · · Score: 2

      For a school project I once modified a very simple robotic arm and handheld scanner to fit over a book and precisely scan the entire two pages (that are exposed at one time) in. Then the pages were ran through OCR to convert to text. Only cost about $20 to build since I already had the scanner. It also would flip through the book for me.. essentially being a book scanner. Worked better on heavy paper than thin paper though as sometimes thin pages stuck together.

      --
      At what price learning? At what cost wisdom? The price is a man's peace of mind, and the cost is his life.
    3. Re:Handheld scanners!? by po8 · · Score: 2

      Not that I'm an expert, but wasn't the stitching software aided? These days, it seems like the whole thing could be auto-stitched without any human intervention...

  15. Digital Cameras? by pandemonia · · Score: 1

    Have you considered a small digital photo-camera?

    You can find good ones will little lens-distortion (although most cheap lenses tend to have some barrel-distortion) that will take 2-3 megapixel pictures for under $300. 2MP is really enough to do accurate OCRing.

    One of the best sources for review and sample pictures is dpreview.

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    -mz
  16. maybe a digital camera? by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 1

    I know this isn't the best idea in the world, but have you tried using a digital camera for this sort of thing? It has the definite advantage of being portable; besides, you can pull it out of your trenchcoat and pretend to be an international man of mystery as you snap clandestine photos of secret documents... or journal articles, or whatever.

    Naturally, this wouldn't work as well as a good flatbed scanner, but it would probably be comparable to the handheld swipe-across scanners you mentioned. And it has the advantage of being a multi-tasker: you can use it for a lot more than just library work.

    Just an idea.

    --

    I write in my journal
    1. Re:maybe a digital camera? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      besides, you can pull it out of your trenchcoat and pretend to be an international man of mystery as you snap clandestine photos of secret documents...

      Your idea wins for that statement alone!

  17. Check Pricewatch by graphicartist82 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Pricewatch.com has a whole section for Mac compatible scanners but I didn't see any that were hand-held..

    1. Re:Check Pricewatch by graphicartist82 · · Score: 1

      Sorry for replying to myself, but here is the correct link for the Mac compatible scanners on pricewatch...

    2. Re:Check Pricewatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And your point is? (S)he specificially stated portable scanner like the handheld scanners of the 80's before flatbeds became cheap. You just as well could have posted a link to memory, a monitor, or an entire system since they are all are about as relevent to what they were looking for. Why not post a link to the PC scanners also? Maybe that would be of benefit too.

    3. Re:Check Pricewatch by amokk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Here's a link to a picture of a funny looking man with a large moustache. I'm posting it as a follow up because they are both equally relavent answers to the question on hand-held scanners.

      http://www.peter.com/inline/jimmy.jpeg

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    4. Re:Check Pricewatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL! If no one mods you up for your humor, then there is no justice in this moderation system.

    5. Re:Check Pricewatch by Sludge · · Score: 2

      First post I've lolled at. Look at my user id.

  18. Quick-Pen by DSL-Admin · · Score: 1, Informative

    It's a scanner, translator, etc all in one, even has memory upgrades!!! http://www.quick-pen.com/

  19. HP Capshare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A few years ago, HP was making a cool but expensive self-contained scanner called the capshare.
    As usual, they couldn't figure out how to market it,
    but it was might have succeeded anyway. So, they
    cancelled it.

  20. Go ahead by TQBrady · · Score: 1

    And mod me up: http://www.cpen.com

  21. Lightweight Flatbeds by SJS · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Why not go with a lightweight flatbed scanner? It'll fit in a backback, and many of them are powered from the USB/fireware/whatever connection as well.

    If you put the scanner at the edge of a table or desk, you can scan pages of books quickly and easily with less distortion than you'd get from a hand-scanner. This may help make up for the slightly less convenient form-factor.

    Try the discount/clearance table at your local Office Depot / Staples / Office Supply store. I always see "clearance" scanner there.

    I've not actually tried this with my TiBook, so YMMV.

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    1. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I spend a lot of time in the library doing law research, and I'd quickly bankrupt myself if I had to photocopy every USCA entry, statute, and case that came my way. I've got a small USB-powered Canon flatbed that I take along with my iBook for just that purpose -- it works great, and the scanner -- on clearance at Frye's -- was only $50. The Canoscan toolbox only runs through Classic, which is a bit of an annoyance, but an annoyance is all it is.

    2. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by 1010011010 · · Score: 2


      I think Canon makes a full-page flatbed USB scanner that's powered by the USB connection. That would do the trick.

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    3. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by EdTheCzar · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that drain his laptop battery very quickly?

    4. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like having 13 hectares of hi-res LCD wouldn't?

    5. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by mekkab · · Score: 2

      Yes, however most laptop users (esp. those in carrels) have access to a plug. Some libraries even have RJ45 Twisted pair jacks to the carrels!

      Do people actually use laptops when they aren't plugged in? Most people I know use laptops as portable harddrive/note taking stations- everywhere they need to be used they have acces to a wall plug.

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    6. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by coolfrood · · Score: 1

      But are the flatbed scanners good enough for thick hardcover books? I guess the scans would get messed up near the seam.

    7. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by Tycho · · Score: 2

      Make sure that if you do get a scanner see if the scanner uses white LEDs instead of a florescent light. LED scanners almost certainly use less power than florescent light scanners. I can't comment on their image quality, but that doesn't sound like a big concern. In any case the LED scanners are much lighter, much thinner, and I'm not sure but they may be more durable.

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      Impersonating Tycho from Penny Arcade since before there was a PA.
    8. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by SJS · · Score: 2
      But are the flatbed scanners good enough for thick hardcover books? I guess the scans would get messed up near the seam.
      Put the scanner near the edge of the table or desk. Hang the unscanned-part of the book over the edge (you'll have to be careful to hold the book in place). This will eliminate much of the distortion that comes from trying to spread a thick book flat.

      The SDSU Library has a couple of photocopiers that do just this sort of thing. It works remarkably well.

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    9. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by vrmlguy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Dell Latitude + Cisco Aironet + my backyard = ~2 hours of web-browsing and/or email without a wall plug.

      OTOH, my son bought a laptop that didn't include a battery.

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    10. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by richie2000 · · Score: 2
      Darn, I've gotta find a good source for Red Dwarf episodes...

      On a slightly more on-topic vein, more and more laptops have modular bays that accept batteries - some Compaqs can have up to three batteries in them. Heavy, sure - but if you're lying in a hammock it may be worth it.

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    11. Re:Lightweight Flatbeds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agh, my stomach! Might want to start doing crunches as well...

  22. CanoScan by aedan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Canon make USB powered scanners. They are slim and would easily fit in a briefcase. There are OS X drivers available. I've got at a CanoScan N670U on my iMac and it works fine. There is X OCR software available but I don't have any.

    aedan

    1. Re:CanoScan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use the CanoScan all the time to research at libraries. They are powered through the USB so you can walk in and only use on outlet (or work as long as your battery will let you). The laptop/scaner combo is amazing, just run everything through OCR and you can search immediately. Save as a PDF and you can use all the pictures as illustrations. Don't go for a handheld, their quality is very poor and hard to use on books. Digital cameras DO NOT work at all.

  23. HP Scanner by Mastagunna · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine has an HP scanner, that is powered only by a USB port. Small enough to carry around, has a locking head unit for portability. I don't know about Mac compatibility, but its just plug and scan in XP.

  24. nothing to do with anything by dfj225 · · Score: 1

    that has to be the best sig ever

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  25. Re:Use a digital camera - i second this by Splork · · Score: 5, Interesting

    yes, i've done this as well. 1600x1200 is way more than enough for a page of text. I haven't tried running the image through OCR software, but given that canon has twain "scanner" drivers for their cameras i'll bet it would be easy.

    For glossy paper and to avoid annoying the others around you it is best to not use the flash. if you're in a low light situation, get a small tripod and a book stand.

    For a very good affordable 2mp camera today i recommend the canon powershot A40; search on my simon for good prices. Any 2mp camera will probably work for your needs; but why buy a crappy one?

  26. Wafer-Thin Flatbed Scanner by Egotistical+Rant · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some of the thin Canon models (n656U, n1220U, LiDE 20, etc.) are overall about the same size as a PowerBook, and they draw their power from the USB port; no need for a wall wart. No OSX drivers for the earlier models though...poke around Canon's site for details on what's compatible.

    Scanning is slow though...I have to agree with others suggesting just using a digital camera of sufficient resolution.

    1. Re:Wafer-Thin Flatbed Scanner by TheHummer · · Score: 1

      Older Canon scanners are supported in OS X with VueScan from Hamrick software. Im scanning away with my FB630U which isn't natively supported on OS X by Canon.

  27. Try Camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I found on vacation last year - I could take pictures of very detailed signs at tourist attractions (E.g. Papal well at Orvieto) and they were quite readable. Saved looking for brochures, etc.
    Almost all decent digital cameras have macro mode and tripod mounts.
    If you are at all handy, you could rig up a mounting bracket and a folding copy stand to take a picture. Just find good lighting, so you don't annoy other library patrons (or anal-retentive librarians) with repetitive flashing. (of light...)

  28. Digital camera +tabletop tripod by docbrown42 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's a couple of things to think about with this setup:
    1: dont use the flash (that's why you use a tripod)
    2: set the book up at perpendicular as possible to the camera (to get a nice, flat picture)
    3: be quiet (turn the sound off of your camera)
    4: Dont get caught

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    1. Re:Digital camera +tabletop tripod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      unless you want to get a picture of the end of the book you will want the book parallel to the camera, not perpendicular.

    2. Re:Digital camera +tabletop tripod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoever came up with the idea to have cameras make beeps and fake shutter click sounds should be taken out and shot.

    3. Re:Digital camera +tabletop tripod by _typo · · Score: 2

      Good digital cameras don't fake shutter click shounds. They actually do the same a film camera would do and only expose the CCD/CMOS sensor for the length of the exposure time. The ones that show you what they're seeing in the screen are always exposing, but I haven't seen one of these fake shutter sounds.

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    4. Re:Digital camera +tabletop tripod by coolfrood · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... shot with a camera that makes beeps and fakes shutter click sounds?? :-)

    5. Re:Digital camera +tabletop tripod by nuggz · · Score: 2

      Or use the camera, and flash and see how it works.
      Myself I hand hold, and use the flash, the end result is quite usable

    6. Re:Digital camera +tabletop tripod by plover · · Score: 3, Informative
      Good advice. That's how spies have done it since the advent of the portable camera.

      The old "spy" instructions I've seen for taking surrepetitious photos of documents suggests stacking two columns of books up to the focal distance of the camera was set to, and then suspending the camera between the columns by taping it to a pair of wooden rulers. Arrange a pair of desk lamps between the stacks to dump as much light as possible on the document. Snap, turn page, snap, turn page, repeat until done or caught.

      Rather than the book columns (which were easy for a spy to come by without having to carry anything more than a tiny Minox) you could bring an ordinary camera tripod. This is a library, after all. I have a tripod that has a removable center column that works perfectly for copying documents. I pull the center column out the top and reinsert it into the bottom of the tripod's head, hanging the camera down below the tripod head and between the legs. It's a great copy stand, as there are no leg shadows. You still need to provide the light, as a photoflash will not go over well in a typical library.

      --
      John
    7. Re:Digital camera +tabletop tripod by thePfhitz · · Score: 1

      so, would that mean that they would be shot with a canon?

    8. Re:Digital camera +tabletop tripod by docbrown42 · · Score: 1

      But the flash might disturb other patrons of the library. That's why I suggested the tripod.

      --
      Ed Wedig
      Graphic design services
      docbrown.net
  29. Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2, Offtopic
    People who spew ridiculous tripe about some law or another without even getting the spelling of the law right. It's DMCA.

    Here's some more shit that bugs me:

    The RIAA controls the music industry, not the MPAA.

    The MPAA controls the movie industry, not the RIAA.

    Hilary Rosen doesn't care too much if you steal a copy of "Moulin Rouge". Jack Valenti doesn't care too much if you steal a copy of NSync's "No Strings Attached". (see above.)

    Copyright law is not trademark law. Trademark law is not copyright law.

    Neither have anything to do with patent law.

    Bills on the floor in the House or Senate are not laws yet. They do not affect you yet. They may never affect you.

    I'm sure there's more, but that's all I could think of on short notice.

    - A.P.

    --
    "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
    1. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by DrLudicrous · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      Speaking of gripes, why don't you check out my self-correction underneath. My gripe is people who don't take the time to read the whole thread, just up to the part that ticks them off or somehow irritates them.

      Yargh, talk about short notice- if you spent as much time reading as you did flapping your fingers on the keyboard, you might learn a thing or two.

    2. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 3, Funny

      DMCP = Dynamic Master Control Program? Your user cannot help you now...

    3. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's another:

      People who go into off-topic rants.
      People who moderate up off-topic rants.

    4. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by TheTomcat · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought he meant:
      Digital Millenium Copyright Police

      S

    5. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bills on the floor in the House or Senate are not laws yet. They do not affect you yet. They may never affect you.

      But they have a certian likelihood to affect us in the future. It's a good thing to be worried about draconian laws. Moreover, it's good to know that there are people out there who would like to use them against you.

      Know thy enemy and all that.

    6. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by gornar · · Score: 1

      Yes, well, that's wonderful, but this is a public forum that addresses concerns of the geek community. Anything said here means less than a public radio personality bitching at you during a pledge drive. The important thing is that people who do matter may read from this forum, and realize that people DO care about their rights and current freedoms. Small errors from these people do not, in the end, matter; what matters is the general atmosphere of concern. Listen less to the words and more to the meaning.

      Or just lighten up. Slashdotters are inconsequential.

    7. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Dear Sir,

      I wish to complain on the stronglyest possible terms about posts that complain about posts that complain. I have known Wakko many years and he only very rarely engages in transvestitism.

      Yours truly,
      Brigadier Sir Charles Arthur Strong, Mrs.

    8. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think your post would be a good candidate for a new type of /. submission. I think we could call it "Tell Slashdot". :-)

    9. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Arcturax · · Score: 2

      The MCP means Master Control Program. You have seen Tron haven't you?

      Also, while bills are the floor of the House or Senate are not laws yet, we need to be just as worried about them becoming laws as if they were laws because they would not be there if someone was not paying for them to be there.

      As for the MPAA and RIAA being seperate, true but they are both having the same bad effect on our rights and both are buying off the same groups of crooked congressmen and pushing and abusing the same bad laws.

      --

      --Won't that be grand? Computers and the programs will start thinking and the people will stop. - Dr. Walter Gibbs
    10. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 2

      He's referring to the Dutch Mounted Computer Police.

      --


      Evil is the money of root.
    11. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by levik · · Score: 2

      Is there any way we can make parent sticky? :)

      --
      Ñ'
    12. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by schon · · Score: 2

      Bills on the floor in the House or Senate are not laws yet. They do not affect you yet. They may never affect you.

      Some of this is true, but you have to ask yourself this: "When is the right time to speak up about them?"

      Waiting until after a bill becomes a law is clearly the wrong time to start protesting it. "Hey, there's a bad bill that's being debated - let's wait until after it becomes law before we tell people we don't want it!"

      To quote "Saturday the 14th", it's like "bolting the barn door after the horses have eaten your children."

    13. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 1

      Bills on the floor in the House or Senate are not laws yet. They do not affect you yet. They may never affect you.

      Some of this is true, but you have to ask yourself this: "When is the right time to speak up about them?"

      It's not a matter of the right time, in my opinion, so much as the right place.

      Has Slashdot ever changed the course of history simply by bitching about a new bill or law? All that wasted effort and empty rhetoric (and mindless, sheeplike bleating) would be better directed at the people making the laws, but slashbots (my term of endearment for the bulk of the soundalike whiners on this site) tend to think that the battle is lost before it's even begun.

      I sometimes wish there were records kept showing how many people here complained about the DMCA before its passage vs. those who actually tried to do something about it. I fear, however, that the numbers would be so lopsided in favor of the slashbots that it would make people who actually gave a shit look like fools for trying.

      The bottom line, as I see it, is this: slashbots are all talk and no action.

      - A.P.

      --
      "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
    14. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by DrLudicrous · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Yeah no shit. Thanks for lowering my karma, but I guess I don't care what a bunch of geeks think about my faceless postings anyways. So once again, SUCK MY DICK. I ain't no troll, but if you do something bad to me for no good reason, goddamn right I am gonna bitch about it.

      Sub-400 doesn't necessarily mean super-100 IQ, obviously. It's fucking amazing how an innocuous comment that was meant as a little joke can be turned into a flamewar by a geek more concerned with spelling and semantics than humor. Way to go, fuckface (Wacky). You only show why so many slashdotters are socially inept and fail in the real world as far as friends go. Definitely, you fall into this group.

      Better my funny little comment than yet another genius saying first post or raving about bukkake. Don't forget that, loser. And for all those modder's out there, a big FUCK YOU to you too. Amazing how that post is off topic, trolling, over rated, etc. Just goes to show you how pessimistic and negative (not to be repetitive and redundant) you people are. Get back to your hand cream and internet porn, I know I will be bothering with ./ a lot less in the future because of geek assholes like you.

    15. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of a 5 man gangbang...

    16. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing better than slashbots whining about US legislation, is slashbots whining about other whining slashbots.

      You have one thing right, though. This place gets lamer with each and every passing day.

    17. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But how about people not taking any interest in their own so-called opinion?

      I mean, DMCP pretty much sounds like the poster is a retard. It's not a typo, the letters are at opposite ends of the keyboards.

      Is it too much to ask that people get informed BEFORE they form (and publically spout) their opinion?

    18. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by ianaverage · · Score: 1

      I dont think that his point was that we should not worry about them...but that we should not consider them LAWS. We should not call them LAWS, but BILLS. He never said anything about ignoring them because they are a bill. But you are definitely right about talking about them now--laws are things that you generally can only futily complain about while bills are something where complaints can actually do something.

    19. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well said

    20. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Schion65 · · Score: 1
      >It's not a matter of the right time, in my opinion, so much as the right place.

      I concur, though I think it's a little difficult to say for certain what the right place is.

      >Has Slashdot ever changed the course of history simply by bitching about a new bill or law?

      Well, no this is nice and difficult to verify isn't it? Furthermore, just because it hasn't, doesn't mean it can't.

      >The bottom line, as I see it, is this: slashbots are all talk and no action.

      I think you could level this at people in general and come off fairly accurate. At least they're talking, and maybe they will decide to do something, one of these days. Perhaps you are trying to goad them out of their lethargy, and if so I applaud it. As an aside, I wouldn't say that you are the grand arbiter of who is all talk, and who is all action. I mean, what is your basis for deciding? Number, importance?

    21. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have fun sucking on the Giver's burly cock! We'll miss you!

    22. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a fucking dumb ass dude.

    23. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You only show why so many slashdotters are socially inept and fail in the real world as far as friends go.

      Take note! This man is a veritable bastion of social skills.

    24. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This place gets lamer with each and every passing day.

      It gets lamer faster with each mindless cliche. Did you think about why you should say "each and every" instead of "each" or "every"? Somehow I suspect you are also a frequent utterer of such phrases as "above and beyond" and "all well and good". Too lazy to decide between an adverb and an adjective?

    25. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The bottom line, as I see it, is this: slashbots are all talk and no action.

      Interesting -- you know each of them intimately enough to make such judgements? You must be a truly superior person. Not to mention a bozo.

    26. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I dont think that his point was that we should not worry about them...but that we should not consider them LAWS. We should not call them LAWS, but BILLS. He never said anything about ignoring them because they are a bill. But you are definitely right about talking about them now--laws are things that you generally can only futily complain about while bills are something where complaints can actually do something.

      Clap, clap. You certainly paid attention to "Just a Bill" on sesame street all those years.

      Please pass on this valuable information to all the spammers who inform you their stuff isn't spam because it complies with a "law" which was never passed by any legislative body.

    27. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think "Kvetch to the Cowboy" is a better name.

      CowboyNeal could moderate.

    28. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by PaddyM · · Score: 1

      No no no. You can not say "DMCA" without the express written consent of the United States Copyright office.

      That's why we say "GNU/DCMA". To confuse everyone!

    29. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by NeMon'ess · · Score: 2

      You made a common newbie mistake. To many of us it appears you made a weak attempt at karma whoring. You posted a very weak and lame joke which may seem funny to you, but you haven't seen 1000 variations of it for as long as the rest of us have. To make matters worse you still haven't explained how the hell you hit "P" instead of "A". I will admit that
      Wakko perhaps unfairly singled you out, but I think he's seen enough crap on /. that it just got to him and he needed to vent. You got hazed more brutally than you deserved. Pick yourself up, learn from example, and come back to /..

    30. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Apro+im · · Score: 1

      Please - it was conjunction Junction, not Sesame Street.

    31. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You have seen Tron haven't you?
      Hibbert: No.
      Lisa: No.
      Marge: No.
      Wiggum: No.
      Bart: No.
      Patty: No.
      Wiggum: No.
      Ned: No.
      Selma: No.
      Frink: No.
      Lovejoy: No.
      Wiggum: Yes. I mean -- um, I mean, no. No, heh.
    32. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by DrLudicrous · · Score: 1
      Got it. Thank you much- you are an island of vocal reason in a sea of voiceless insanity. I think I will be taking a prolonged break from commenting for now- the smell of putridness still inundates my nostrils.

      P.S. It's not that I accidently hit 'P' instead of 'A'- I just had a momentary brain fart, but I caught it after I posted within a minute, and fixed it. I said my bad. What more can one say? Wakko seems like the type that is unable to accept explanations or apologies- so the hell with him, and anyone else that is so caught up in themselves as to not see the forest thru the trees. So, till far in the future... goodbye.

    33. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please - it was Schoolhouse Rock, not Conjunction Junction.

    34. Re:Here's one gripe I have about slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you know about vaginas? You've never even seen one up close, peterpuffer.

  30. Just buy a regular Mac scanner... by qurob · · Score: 1


    And run the program in Classic mode, OS 9.x

    Inconvienent, but unless you find what you want, that's native to OS X...

    Also, can you plug in at the libarary? I wonder if they make a scanner that is USB powered...

  31. Get a cheap small flatbed scanner like me! by FyRE666 · · Score: 2, Redundant

    I can fit my little Cannon flatbed scanner into my laptop case with no problems - it can scan A4 pages too. I didn't think it would fit to be honest, but it's surprising what will go in that bag, given some "encouragement".

    It's USB too, so no need for external power. It weighs next to nothing (compared to the laptop, paper and other crap in there) so I tend to keep it with me - often comes in handy...

  32. Digital Camera by philovivero · · Score: 2, Redundant

    They're small. They take often 1600x1200 pictures, which is enough resolution for an 8.5x11 page (or A4, if you're over there).

    I used it to "scan" my passport when I needed to get a copy of it to someone in the States once, and then just emailed the "scan" so they could print it out there. Looked better than a fax, and worked better, too.

    1. Re:Digital Camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That won't work.
      I would suggest a digital camera.

  33. Back In My Days.... by SniffleBear · · Score: 1

    Back in the 90's, we only used library books for a legitimate bibliography source. The actual paper came from the internet :)

  34. C-Pen - penscanner by ciryon · · Score: 2
    There is a small handheld device called C-Pen. It is used to capture text, store it and later transfer it to a computer. There is also a model that you use with your laptop to instantly scan a line of text and put it (as normal text) on your computer. OS X drivers are scheduled to be completed by december.

    This thing is ideal for working with research in a library.

    Ciryon

  35. Pen scanner by SPaReK · · Score: 0

    I seem to remember reading something about a scanner, about the size of a pen, that would allow you to scan individual lines. This was a couple of years ago I think. Don't remember what it was called. Anyone else remember these? Maybe I'm just thinking of some James Bond flick.

    1. Re:Pen scanner by ciryon · · Score: 2

      Check the post above yours! :)

      It's called C-Pen.

      Ciryon

  36. I've done this by [l0l]Bobo · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Flatbed scanners have become really slim and rugged. My GF has one that's 8.5x14 and slimmer than her iBook. It's a USB scanner that requires no external power source (it has all it needs from the usb port). If you're already carrying the laptop around, this adds almost no weight or volume to the total. This is what I used for my trips to the library.

    The scanner she has is something like this one, and I'm sure there are other ones. Pretty cheap too!

    1. Re:I've done this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also have a small cannon scaner. I love it. I even get it to do OCR with 99% accuracy. But if your just going to print it out later who cares right? Anyway a big plus is that it is USB powered, get one.

    2. Re:I've done this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USB powered, huh? How much of a drain is it on her iBook's battery?

    3. Re:I've done this by [l0l]Bobo · · Score: 1
      I didn't do any benchmarks, I was more interested in getting the work done, but I remember one occasion where I scanned about 30 pages total and never got concerned by the battery's charge.

      The scanner I linked to in my initial comment uses a series of RGB LEDs rather than a fluorescent tube to light up the page. I expect that it takes very little power. The only other concern is the motor, which isn't very fast (and a row of leds is lighter than a tube assembly I guess).

  37. Sheet Fed Solution by JonTurner · · Score: 5, Funny

    "they are sheet-fed, which is useless for scanning pages out of books"
    Not if you tear out the pages, first.

    1. Re:Sheet Fed Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      This might be funnier if it weren't true.

  38. Anyone who says "Solution" sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using the word solution is just a way to say less with more words.

    "Need a corporate-frontend business solution that can be reliable and sturdy in today's e-market economy? Dont we all?...Our corporate solutions offer highend practical applications of modern technology to offer your customers the product satisfaction that will ensure you stay ahead of the game."

  39. Pen and paper, dumbass by realmolo · · Score: 0, Troll

    See, the whole point of TAKING NOTES is to summarize, and only write down what you need. Scanning/taking pictures of whole pages? What an incredible waste of time. Take a notetaking class and quit making things hard on yourself.

    1. Re:Pen and paper, dumbass by nullard · · Score: 1

      See, the whole point of TAKING NOTES is to summarize, and only write down what you need. Scanning/taking pictures of whole pages? What an incredible waste of time. Take a notetaking class and quit making things hard on yourself.

      Often my schedule and that of the library don't match up. I may want to grab some data and analyze it a little bit at a time between classes, etc. Not to mention, the library here has strict rules against food. Not having to lug around a ton of books is also plus.

      I'd rather take notes (on my computer) from a scan or other digital media at my leisure than waste time in the library copying info from one dead tree to another only to input it to my machine at home.

      --


      t'nera semordnilap
    2. Re:Pen and paper, dumbass by Casca · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      That might work when you're writing a two page term paper in 7th grade, dumbass. I like to keep copies of some of the research material I use on a paper, it comes in handy when you want to go back and check something in your notes.

      Jesus you really are a twit realmolo.

      --
      Casca
    3. Re:Pen and paper, dumbass by realmolo · · Score: 1

      That's why the library has copying machines, for those times when you would like to photocopy things. Which should be rare. This guy sounds like he wants to scan in whole chapters.

      How much is a scanner? How much is a decent digital camera? He could pay for hundreds and hundreds of copies with that money.

    4. Re:Pen and paper, dumbass by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      You're an ASS.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
  40. All that plastic around a scanner.... by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is completely useless. It's just packaging. I say to take the damned thing apart, flip the mechanism that slides the laser over and attach a book to it.

    Instantly portable, put whatever you want on it ( a book, your junk, whatever) and let it slide across the stationary laser. If you get good at it, you could even make the rails telescopic for even more portability!

    --
    You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
  41. I know 499 people have suggested this, by Jedi+Paramedic · · Score: 0, Redundant

    and i just wanted to be the 500th. Why not try a digital camera with zoom? It's more conspicuous than a surreptitious sweep of a page with the "mouse" scanners was, but hell - you can see exactly what you're going to get before you take the picture...

    --

    That's my purse! I don't know you! -- Bobby Hill
    1. Re:I know 499 people have suggested this, by dildatron · · Score: 4, Funny

      *Ding* *Ding* *Ding* CONGRATULATIONS! You are the 500th poster to recommend the same thing! You have won a prize! What do we have for him, Johnny?

      --


      If you had nuts on your chin, would they be chin nuts?
  42. HP Capshare REVEALED by qurob · · Score: 1


    eBay Auctions

    They can transfer images to printers via IR, so I'm sure you could hack something together that would be able to use the information. I'm sure it's in a pretty standard format.

    You might need a programming book and a PCL/HPGL/PS spec...

    Anyone smell a sourceforge project?

    I've seen one of these things in use before, they are pretty sweet.

  43. Pens from IRIS by Pramode · · Score: 1

    Check the spec for the handheld IRIS Pens, they come in USB and can be used with MACs: HERE

  44. Mac X support for even normal scanners a problem by Aladdin+Sane · · Score: 1

    In Japan have been shopping for just a normal scanner for an OS X based laptop. Have yet to find small scanner that has native OS X support, and am unwilling to start native mode when scanning. Epson seems to have started releasing some drivers (see May 15th article at http://www.macnn.com/news.php?id=14217), good luck.

    --

    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. [H.S.T.]

  45. Cheapest Solution of All... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just rip the damn page out of the book already...

  46. Glad you switched to a Mac now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative
    You got suckered by Steve Job...hahahahaha!

    Don't you hate it when everybody else uses Windows and you chose a Mac just to be 'Different'. Now you can't find the hardware you want, the software you want, and the performance sucks compared to Windows.

    Well, at least you're 'cool'!

  47. Penscanner - only B/W by Mu*puppy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Had a roommate who got one of these penscanners. They did passable for reading black text on a white background, but God help you if you have to scan colored text on white, or black text from an even slightly (say, a light gray) colored background. If you're going to pull text out of 'traditional' books, you should do just fine, but I think you'd do better to grab a small flatbed scanner if you wanted something more generally usable.

    "I do what the voices in my head tell me to... and they don't like you..."

    --
    There's no wrong way, to eat a Rhesus...
  48. Truth in advertising? by User+956 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    , while I've found three portable scanners for PC's (from Antec and Pentax) even if I could somehow get them to work with Mac OS X

    Doesn't Apple advertise that their products "just work", and that the operating system "gets out of your way"?

    What a load of shit.

    --
    The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
    1. Re:Truth in advertising? by User+956 · · Score: 2

      even if I could somehow get them to work with Mac OS X

      Doesn't Apple advertise that their products "just work", and that the operating system "gets out of your way"?


      The truth hurts, doesn't it? I guess so, given that the parent was modded down as "Flamebait", when it is merely pointing out the blatant hypocrisy and lies in Apple's marketing campaign.

      But go ahead, mod this one down too. I'll just post it again.

      --
      The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
    2. Re:Truth in advertising? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Errr.. it's the device manufacturer's responsibility to write drivers for the thing. Grow up.

    3. Re:Truth in advertising? by JohnFluxx · · Score: 1

      "Mac OS X version 10.1 also includes Printer Description files for more than 200 PostScript printers"

      Getting more offtopic - but the above statement was on that URL - What would the difference be between PS printers?

      I've many a time just printed to a random PS printer driver to file onto a floppy, taken it in uni, and "cat file.ps > /dev/lp0" and it works fine.

      So uh, its not that impressive that Mac supports 200 PS printers.

    4. Re:Truth in advertising? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      YEAH, THE TRUTH FUCKING HURTS, DOESN'T IT APPLE? YEAH! A LOAD OF SHIT! FUCKING JESUS, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET NON NATIVE PRODUCTS TO WORK WITH YOUR PIECE OF SHIT OPERATIN' SYSTEM. WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT! FUCKING HELL, DOES THE T R U T H, H U R T OR WHAT?!?!?! POINTING OUT THE HYPOCRISY IS WHAT USER 956 DOES, AND IT'S GOING TO HURT SOMEBODY, SO YOU HYPOCRITES BETTER WATCH OUT, CUZ THE LOAD OF SHIT IS COMING YOUR WAY!

      YEAH, BITCHES, MOD THIS DOWN, I WILL JUST POST AGAIN. I'LL FUCKING SHOW YOU. DON'T FUCK WITH USER 956, OR USER 956 WILL FUCK WITH YOU, AND THE LOAD OF SHIT WILL HURT YOU GOOD!

    5. Re:Truth in advertising? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ummm... it's somehow *Apple's* fault that these THIRD PARTY SCANNERS FOR THE PC don't work with Mac OS X???

      Give me some of what you're smoking, it's probably better than what Steve Jobs gets!

    6. Re:Truth in advertising? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, OS X 10.2 includes built in twain scanner support in an application called "Image Capture".

      So no, it's not a load of shit (unlike your post).

    7. Re:Truth in advertising? by User+956 · · Score: 2

      Ummm... it's somehow *Apple's* fault that these THIRD PARTY SCANNERS FOR THE PC don't work with Mac OS X???

      Yes, given that their hardware is a known quantity, and the slogan "Plug-and-Play, not Plug-and-Get-Mad" on their ad page.

      If you're going to advertise that your device is a "digital hub" and that it "just works" with peripherals, then make sure you're right, otherwise you look fucking stupid.

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    8. Re:Truth in advertising? by LMariachi · · Score: 1

      Postscript Printer Descriptions are not drivers, they're files that describe the characteristics of the printer -- available page sizes, number of trays, maximum imageable area, that sort of thing. They're not necessary for basic functionality, but you need them to take advantage of envelope feeders, duplexing, etc.

    9. Re:Truth in advertising? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're going to advertise that your device is a "digital hub" and that it "just works" with peripherals, then make sure you're right, otherwise you look fucking stupid.

      I read that page you linked to, and nowhere on it does it say anything about scanners. NONE of their "switch" pages mentions compatibility with PC scanners.

      So, maybe you can fault Apple for not supporting NON-MAC scanners, but you can't fault them for advertising that they do, because they never claimed they did!

      It's only reasonable to expect MAC-COMPATIBLE peripherals to Plug-and-Play out of the box. The fact that you can't understand this only makes YOU look fucking stupid!

    10. Re:Truth in advertising? by User+956 · · Score: 2

      I read that page you linked to, and nowhere on it does it say anything about scanners. NONE of their "switch" pages mentions compatibility with PC scanners.

      I guess you missed reason number nine where it says that Macs "work effortlessly" with PC hardware then. But then, if you're illiterate, that would explain your choice of Mac as a platform. They seem quite popular with the "oh! look at the pretty pictures!" crowd.

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  49. Your sig page ... by mustangdavis · · Score: 1

    Your sig page is down!

    I can't get to http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~stremler/sigs/sigs.html

    Just an FYI :)

    1. Re:Your sig page ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try again. Apparently the system was taken down for maintenance or something.

  50. I second this by andyring · · Score: 1

    I do this all the time. I do newsletters for a variety of clients, actually going to the trenches in industrial environments. If I see something on a bulletin board, book, etc., that I want, I'll simply take a photo of it. I've also used it to take a photo of my screen in the event of a crash a few times (rare on my Mac, though). Most cameras have a macro mode for close-ups, that's what I'll do.

  51. I'll see your Troll and raise you one by spRed · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    .sig September 11th, 2001: The most successful day for totalitarian government in American history

    The most successful attack by totalitarians (The Islamo-Marxist variety) against a democracy?

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    1. Re:I'll see your Troll and raise you one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Islamo-marxist? Democracy?

      he he, don't make me laugh.

    2. Re:I'll see your Troll and raise you one by Qrlx · · Score: 1

      I don't know of any democracies that were attacked on that day.... only a Republic called the United States of America.

      There is a difference, you know.

    3. Re:I'll see your Troll and raise you one by Iguanaphobic · · Score: 0, Troll

      Mmmmm, no. Think back to '42, when the government wanted to go to war, but the American people wanted nothing to do with it. A little slack intelligence here, a little willful blindness to the facts there and a little sheer bumbling error and voila, a public relations coup for the war effort. (Any of this sounding familiar??) The big difference with 9/11 was the objective. Rather than putting down a monster, this "war" is all about profit (United Defense shares in your portfolio??) and oil. In the process, they'll strip a few freedoms from the people (all in the name of security). If left unchecked, it could easily have led to a totalitarian military government in the USA. Luckily, the bumbling errors and buffoonery in Washington have prevented that outcome. But it's good to always think of the two cardinal rules of any situation, especially in politics. Who benefits and follow the money. You'll usually end up with the real story, not the one that was manufactured for the media.

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    4. Re:I'll see your Troll and raise you one by spRed · · Score: 1
      There is, but the orignal dotsig said democracy so I went with that.

      A pet peeve of mine (and I'd assume your's too) is that the standard definition of Democracy encompasses Republics.

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    5. Re:I'll see your Troll and raise you one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Democracy is used to describe the US so that people think that there really is a level playing field, one man, one vote.

      It's a good type of misinformation to have out there(propaganda) so people don't know that they are getting the shaft(capitalism).

  52. use digital camera by u19925 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    i have used digital camera with great success for many such things. i haven't tried coupling with OCR, so don't know how suitable this would be for data intensive research. use camera with 4MP+ and somewhat high end (Nikon, Sony, Canon etc) with good close up functionality. After taking photo, zoom-in to see the quality of the photo. i have stopped using scanner and photo-copying documents for archival. instead, I always take photos.

  53. Re:Digital Camera + OCR - here you go by micahmicahmicah · · Score: 3, Informative

    Take a look at this. http://www.pc-cameras.philips.com/manuals/english/ win/pcvc690k/index.html That is a webcam which is also designed to be used as a scanner, it even comes with OCR software. "It's fun to violate the D-M-C-A" - Village People Redux

  54. Copy Stand by drb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Everyone and their mothers are saying to use a digital camera. One of these would make it easier. Copy stands are basically like tripods for shooting straight down. I once saw a foldable one on ebay for $10. It was just a board with a hole in it and four legs. You fastened the legs onto the board, put your camera's lens through the hole, focused, and took the picture. Lights would help a little, but with still media (like books), you can do long exposures without risk of motion blur. --Dan

  55. Canon printer/scanner by mblase · · Score: 4, Informative

    Canon also offers a color scanner cartridge which is compatible with their two portable bubble jet printers. Not an ideal solution, perhaps, but very portable and apparently Mac-compatible up to OS 9 (which might include Classic under OS X).

    Otherwise, according to Apple's own site, Canon's LiDE 30 is the most portable flatbed scanner I can think of with OS X support. Now, a flatbed isn't good for travel, because it's easy to bump around the components and damage it internally. The printer cartridge might be your best bet.

    1. Re:Canon printer/scanner by RoofusPennymore · · Score: 1

      Might work with Image Capture in x.2. I know my Stylus Scan 2500 does.

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    2. Re:Canon printer/scanner by Choron · · Score: 1

      Does it come with a pair of scissors to cut the pages of the book you want to scan ?

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  56. Then he asked the wrong question... by bhsx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think you'd do well with the answer to "Ask Slashdot: How to properly use a search engine"

    I think you should try playing around with different search parameters... Try these is google:

    +"handheld scanner" +apple -win32 -windows -linux

    +"network scanner" +nessus +linux -ethereal -ettercap

    +"linux terminal server project" +openmosix -mosix

    +"need for speed" +"jenna jameson" -playstation -ps2

    I think if you follow the noticeable pattern above that you will no longer have such a hard time with those nasty good for nothing search engines;)

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    1. Re:Then he asked the wrong question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never remember those on Jesus....inaccurate paintings?

    2. Re:Then he asked the wrong question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give the guy a break. He is a Mac user.

  57. VISIONEER USB POWERD PORTABLE SCANNER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check it out..pretty damn portable

  58. Try the Casio Freedio. by rindeee · · Score: 2, Informative

    It'll let you scan entire pages of text manually as well as "feed" scanning small documents (things like business cards and receipts). That's the only scanner of that type that I know of. ER .

    1. Re:Try the Casio Freedio. by rindeee · · Score: 1

      Sorry...here's a link. http://www.fullskull.com/reviews/Freedio.htm

    2. Re:Try the Casio Freedio. by BTS_WRKNG · · Score: 1

      "I know it was you, Freedio. You broke my heart."

      I wonder if Freedio is related to Casseopia (sp?)...

      JG

  59. C-Pen by ChaosMt · · Score: 5, Informative

    I understand and appreciate your problem. I have tried many solutions, and I believe the c-pen 800c is the best solution I've tried for my research needs. There is another pen based solution, WizCom QuickLink SuperPen which I've also tried. I did not like the wizcom because it was not as comfortable to use or as accurate. It also actually had a moving part. :) Both have SDKs to write your own software, however, the only one I could get access to was the c-pen, which made it even more of a favorite of mine. The cpen can also act as a mouse and can do some gestures in addition to being able to input text through "writing" (in big letters) on the page. Both companies are barely alive it seems, but it's a niche market, and I hope they survive. They both have some fantastic functionality, such as translation and barcodes. Of course c|net did the normal bribed review, but I guess the cpen wasn't out at the time. Both are upgradeable and can load extra programs or dictionaries and such. I wouldn't want to go back to college with out one.

    Hey, if this has at all been useful, please feel free to buy me one! I miss having it around.

    1. Re:C-Pen by ChaosMt · · Score: 2

      I forgot to mention, I believe both of them have memory upgrades available. However, you're hand may wear out before you use up all the memory. Also, don't get intimidated by the ebay prices; they are not accurate. I picked up both of them in SoCal stores like Fry's and Office Depot for around $100. However, they are hard to find. It's been about a year since I lost my job and access to the device. I've been casually checking out computer sales to pick up one, but haven't had much luck yet.

    2. Re:C-Pen by ChaosMt · · Score: 2

      Sorry, I forgot something else. These solutions are an all-in-one scanner and OCR. So, if you want to scan in tiny 15 point sized (my guess) images, I imagine it would be possible if you wrote the software for it. However, this is a tidy, easy solution for working with and remembering text, not pictures.

      It should also be noted that there is a small learning curve. It takes some getting used to making a straight line. You'll also see that it tries it's best to turn frames or boxes around text into characters (like |) and it's sometimes hard to aim for starting and stopping of scanning. Like all OCRs there are occasional mistakes that will need to be corrected, and they occur more frequently if there isn't much contrast (light print, colored paper, colored text, etc). Last, don't even THINK of trying to scan handwriting. Cursive or printing will turn into complete garbage. As I've said, it is a niche market item, but what it does, it does suprisingly well. Now go and buy me one! :)

  60. Re:Fucking Macintosh Bukkake Slurpers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and ( - several million for being an obvious idiot.)

  61. Forget scanner - get a digital camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a digital camera with ISO 800 or higher.
    I have Nikon Cooplix 995 and I simply take
    high resolution photos instead of xeroxing.

    You need more postprocessing than with scanner
    but taking photos is so much faster than scanning.

    Kubus

  62. Here a couple by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Informative
    Possible solutions (may or may not be Mac compatible):

    I must admit that there doesn't seem to be much around, but then again this simply from searching Google. And for those of you content with scanning bar code from books, then there are fancy iMac coloured bar-code scanners.

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    1. Re:Here a couple by Tjp($)pjT · · Score: 2

      The NEC Peti Scan is a discontinued product (sadly I bought one in Spring 2000). And, while it uses a common scanner chipset, it is very difficult to get drivers for it. The Mac OS 9.x and lower work fine with the last available drivers, but it does not work in OS X or Classic. If anyone has gottent it to work in OS X I'd love to know. The Windows driver is fairly flakly in the latest OS and gives a ton of warnings (and you have to have had it already installed to work at all (i.e., upgrade from a known working system). Now if only IOExperts would tackle the orphaned scanner problem they'd get more shareware fees from me!

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  63. And I might add... by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

    ...that the particular marketing gimmick in question was extremely effective. Apple made computers that weren't "like every other computer" and sold a bunch of them. Now you look at all the monkeys doing strange things (some functional, others far from it) to differentiate their beige box from everyone elses beige box and ask yourself who understood that different was cool first?

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    1. Re:And I might add... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple made computers that weren't "like every other computer" and sold a bunch of them. Now you look at all the monkeys doing strange things (some functional, others far from it) to differentiate their beige box from everyone elses beige box and ask yourself who understood that different was cool first?

      I'll give you a hint... it wasn't Apple that understood it first.

    2. Re:And I might add... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 2

      Who then? Dell? Packard Bell? Micron? Compaq? HP? Gateway?

      They're all still lost in a hopelessly uncool world. Only a handful of PC manufacturers get it. SGI. Falcon. Alienware.

      Gateway still things an iMac is just a lamp with DVD playback. Never mind that thousand dollar software setup, guys, it MUST be the $150 flat panel.

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    3. Re:And I might add... by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      Who then? Dell? Packard Bell? Micron? Compaq? HP? Gateway?

      Toshiba has a new laptop with a cool little LCD embeeded in it's _trakcpad_ (the only thing i didn't like about toshiba's was there lack of a track pad!) showing what'll happen if you tap there :D

      granted the rest of the machine was pretty bland, but if i ever downgrade to a PC, it'll probably be a toshiba...

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    4. Re:And I might add... by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

      That's not a hint.

      So you are telling me that someone else understood it first and obviously you know something I don't.

      Come on, fill me in. Who understood it first.

      Seriously, all sarcasm aside I just want to know who it is you are talking about.

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  64. I got an Idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First, photocopy the pages out of the book. Then, feed them to the sheet feeding scanner! ;)

  65. How LAME! by CSG_SurferDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Note to Editors: For "ask Slashdot" posts, please at least TRY to do a "google" on the question to see if it is lame or not.

    (Modded down as irrelevant/troll/slam on the editors)

    1. Re:How LAME! by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 1

      Um... I did a few different google searches and couldn't find anything. What search phrase did you use?

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    2. Re:How LAME! by Peter+H.S. · · Score: 2

      Note to Editors: For "ask Slashdot" posts, please at least TRY to do a "google" on the question to see if it is lame or not.

      Well, "lame" questions may be quite usefull, since they often sparks a good /long discussion. You can see the fenomenon on usenet if you hang around there.

      In this case I actually learned some stuff: A couple of friends are going to an old archive in eastern Europe. It is a very financially poor archive; there is an absolut limit of 100 copies per person for the entire stay, but there are at least 25.000 documents they have to sift through.
      The place is warmed by old fashioned coal-stoves. There are no power outlets for their notebooks, so using a flat-bed usb scanner is not an option either. (though this thread gave me a good reference to a flatbed scanner, designed for book scanning) Besides, the documents are old and fragile, and often impossible to OCR.

      But several people on this thread mentionend how they used digital cameras to copy documents with good results. That looks like a promesing approach to my friends problem.

      And I do really value peoples own experiences on how a technology work (or not).
      Besides peoples experience with technology, there is only marketing material, - and that I don't trust.

      So I (at least) learned something from the _answers_ in this discussion, even though the _question_ did not pertain to "my" problem.

  66. Libararias and scanwho? by greymond · · Score: 1

    Didn't you know libraries were replaced by the internet, since everything on the internet is readily available and true. - j/k

    Actually my advice would be to just buy a small flatbed scanner (i think epson has a model that fits into to a backback nicely) and use that. Also the ones that work for the PC's if they are USB you may want to do a google search for osX drivers. It may see it as a totally different scanner and not have all the functions, but at least it would work.

  67. Try The IRISPEN 2 by docstrange · · Score: 1

    It's a handheld text scanner. You simply swipe it over the text, and it has ocr capabililty. You can scan the text right into your text editor.

    http://www.irislink.com/opt/uk/products/irispen/ fa q/index.html

    Looks like it might be the answer to your problem.

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  68. Dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You must not read a lot of slashdot, if you think that's disgusting.

    Want disgusting? Here's disgusting.

  69. Noise?! by anarchima · · Score: 0

    I'm just wondering what kind of libraries you people are sitting in, because over here where I live, a scanner would make WAY too much noise and would probably result and me being kicked out of the place...So...another quality has to be the amount of noise a scanner makes, before it is usable in any way that the writer is proposing...

    1. Re:Noise?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noise? What kind of scanner you got, some 7-year-old parallel Mustek piece of shit?

    2. Re:Noise?! by anarchima · · Score: 0

      Actually yeah :) But I also have one of those little things that you slot paper thru, and those make enough noise (not a lot) to be an annoyance.

  70. Oh my god, IT WORKS!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This proves that my time machine actually works!!!! I have travelled back 3 years into the past!!!!! I am a GENIUS!!!!!!

    1. Re:Oh my god, IT WORKS!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFL!!!!!

      That is the first comment i have seen on /. that actually caused me to break out laughing uncontrollably. Usually they are just irritating.

      Thanks for the laughs. :)

    2. Re:Oh my god, IT WORKS!!!!! by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      Someone please mod the parent up as +3 Funny. This was just too damn funny.

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    3. Re:Oh my god, IT WORKS!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NO!!!!

  71. Gotta second the Canon USB scanners: by uradu · · Score: 2

    Here's the CanoScan LiDE 30 USB at Buy.com.
    These are by far the best solution for portable scanning. You get a full size bed, excellent quality, decent speed (though not blazing), very quiet operation entirely off USB without any other power source, and yet they're only about the thickness of a laptop. My wife uses hers a lot for her research, it fits very nicely in the side pocket of the laptop bag. Add a reasonably recent version of PaperPort Deluxe, which is one of the most hassle-free scanning and scan management packages around, and you've got everything to create and maintain gobs of scans.

  72. First step by f97tosc · · Score: 1

    Before you try too hard, it is worth spending a few seconds considering if the text might already be electronically available, for free.

    Many classics novels can be found at: Project Gutenberg

    Most scientific journals are also available electronically these days, and libraries typically have paid access.

    Tor

  73. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MCP meant that for quite a bit of time prior to TRON :)

  74. Scanners by moc.tfosorcimgllib · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sometimes I can't figure out WHY people refuse to research themselves.

    This might be a good question, "Where did all the hand-held scanners go", but, you can learn about the whole history in a few hours of seraching on the net.

    1. Re:Scanners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Wow, that was really impressive. Too bad you completely failed on your quest and found zero Macintosh compatible image scanners that work on OSX. Oh well, nice try, though.

      The Bearcat Handheld Police Scanners were a nice touch ... also not Mac compatible. Oh, and the barcode scanners--at least there were a couple ones that worked on a Mac, but alas, they didn't scan text.

  75. Getting the drops off. by martinde · · Score: 2

    I noticed these at Pep Boys (an auto parts store) the other day. Strange impulse item, methinks. Anyways, should take care of the drops for you.

  76. Re: Scanning passports by feed_those_kitties · · Score: 2, Funny

    Were they promising to send you lots of money in return for a few details (your bank account numbers, social security numbers, passport, etc...)??

  77. Scanner I'd like to see by ecloud · · Score: 2

    I'd like a duplex page scanner. A few years ago, narrow page scanners where you just feed in one sheet at a time, and the software automatically captures when it detects paper there, were popular; but why not have it capture the backside too?

    It would be great to have one in the living room, mounted on top of a trash can (shredder-style), or even on top of a shredder, to convert s-mail to email.

    Of course there are production autofeeder duplex scanners but I keep looking on ebay and the working ones always end up rather expensive.

    I might try to mechanically wed two page scanners, and just deal with the two data streams.

  78. Copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're nothing but a copyright thief. Go away.

  79. Make sure it handles B&W by brusk · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've successfully done this, bring a camera to library/archives and taking pics.

    Some suggestions:
    - Get a camera that has a B&W (really greyscale) mode. Some do, some don't. It matters because it makes the files much smaller and you can fit a lot more pages onto the memory card.

    - Don't use the USB or even firewire connection to transfer pictures. It's infinitely easier and battery-saving as well to get an adapter (if you have a laptop, a PCMCIA one) that can read the memory card directly; the OS will just treat it like a disk.

    - If you can, put a sheet of non-reflecting glass over the page you're photographing. This is what they do when they make microfilm form books. But if you are going to carry around a sheet of glass, you might as well lug a scanner.

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    1. Re:Make sure it handles B&W by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If you can, put a sheet of non-reflecting glass over the page you're photographing. This is what they do when they make microfilm form books. But if you are going to carry around a sheet of glass, you might as well lug a scanner.

      the idea is to flatten out the page. when doing copywork with a camera, you want the film plane to be the same as the plane of the work you are shooting (even in the case of architectural photograph, thats why view cameras have all those swivels).

      if you dont want to lug a piece of glass around, a stick or ruler can be used as such: open the book, place the stick in the crease of the book, just on the margin of the words (not covering any words, of course) with edges of the stick hanging out either end of the book. wiegh down the ends of the stick (maybe with a couple other books?) to get the page flat, and shoot the page.

      or you can perspective scale the photo afterwards, but it is best to do what you can beforehand. (yes i've done lots of copy work sometimes in a pinch needing to get creative)

  80. IRIS OCR Scanner Pen by gryf · · Score: 4, Informative

    I saw this product at the Mac Business Expo here in Seattle last week. It looked pretty slick. It scans the page, runs it through OCR, and inserts the text right into whatever app you have open. It will do one line at a time or multiple lines. It obviously does not do images, but if you want text, I recommend it. I would have bought it, but I'm in school instead of working these days. Check out: www.irisusa.com I saw the demonstration (manual and interactive, not scripted) running under OSX.

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    1. Re:IRIS OCR Scanner Pen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is exactly what the article is asking for. Would someone mod it higher? It deserves better than a 3...

  81. Re:I'll see your Troll and I raise you two! by ckaminski · · Score: 1

    IIRC, I think the year was '41.

  82. C Pen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    look up C-Pen

    the original ones were independant which you download, but the latest one is a USB hand scanner.
    I am doing a PhD and it is excellent - I just go to the library with my toshiba and hoover up stuff directly into reference manager. very quick, very accurate

  83. Consumer Reports Reviews Digital Cameras by rubinson · · Score: 2

    Since people keep recommending digital cameras, I thought that I just point out that the November issue (not sure if it's on shelves yet) of Consumer Reports has a review of digital cameras in it.

  84. AutoStitching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you use a camera you're likely to want to stitch images together. Remember the Pencigraphy article recently, of software which stitches together video images? Wave the camera over the page and wait for your CPU to do the work....

  85. Re:Use a digital camera - i second this by j_dot_bomb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I use my A40 as a fax scanner to send faxes from home. A40 is awesome I totally agree.

  86. Re:Mac X support for even normal scanners a proble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My AGFA SnapScan 1212U works natively in OSX.

  87. You thief! by sterno · · Score: 1

    So, anybody want to chime up accusing this guy of being a thief? He's stealing right? Isn't that fundamentally wrong?

    I'm going to get modded down for this but it bugs me to no end when people say something that is as ephemoral as this is "just wrong". I doubt we'll be hearing much in that regard because this guy is doing academic research. Though seeing as fair use is slowly getting demolished by media industry paranoia, we can expect that not even academics like this will be safe in the future.

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  88. remember those by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ahh, yes i remember libraries. Still the only place to get books, or sorry , are they all online. Get back to planet earth

  89. Portable scanner, huh? by richlb · · Score: 2

    This is what you need.

  90. It's called a digital camera by Fozz · · Score: 1

    Taking digital photos of letter-sized documents is probably more than a half-way decent option to feeding change into photocopiers.

    The result probably won't be quite as crisp as a sheet-fed scanner or a handheld wand-type scanner, but it will work.

  91. Basically, you're not allowed by Wolfkin · · Score: 5, Informative

    At least, in Pennsylvania.

    Recently my wife did some geneaology research in Pennsylvania for my mother-in-law. She intended to use her digital camera instead of feeding the copy machines, but all of the libraries, record archives, and courthouses she visited refused to allow her to do so, and even required she sign an agreement stating she was familiar with the rules of the place, all of wihch were about how she could not use scanners, cameras, or other copying mechanisms other than the copy machine provided by the library.

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    1. Re:Basically, you're not allowed by darien · · Score: 2

      This is also the case in the British Library. I assumed it was to do with copyright, but I asked, and apparently their major concern is people dragging scanners across the surfaces of their books. They're quite happy for you to photocopy as much as you like on their photocopiers, or indeed for you to sit there and transcribe them into a laptop - it's just they have a lot of irreplaceable books, and they're very worried about wear and tear. Which is a hell of a drag when all you want is to quickly grab a few pages, but fair enough really.

    2. Re:Basically, you're not allowed by Jaeger · · Score: 3, Informative

      Would it really be that hard to disallow scanners that rub against the surface of the book, and probably flash pictures, since they would probably annoy the other patrons, while still allowing picture-taking and flat-bed scanners (which are no more invasive than cramming the book onto a flat-bed photocopier in the first place)?

      Seems to me like they're really hard up for the coins they want you to feed into the photocopier at double or triple what you'd pay at an independent copy store.

    3. Re:Basically, you're not allowed by Blancmange · · Score: 1

      I imagine then, that the British Library's photocopiers are the the fancy new 'digital copiers' that look down onto the upright, open pages of the book and correct the spatial distortion and illumination variance of the page close to the spine.

      I'm not sure if the machines are clever enough to remove the staples from centrefolds, though.

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    4. Re:Basically, you're not allowed by Seehund · · Score: 2, Informative

      I assumed it was to do with copyright, but I asked, and apparently their major concern is people dragging scanners across the surfaces of their books.

      I add to my poor student's economy by working some evenings at a university library, and part of the job is to make copies ordered by researchers. The library does not get the books and journals for free, and the stuff is still copyrighted. Imagine that!

      Part of the copying fees goes to the copied journals and their publishers. The library keeps track of what and how much is copied "in-house", and I suppose some of the money from the patrons' copiers (which for natural reasons can't be directly connected to any particular publishers) is pooled to finance literature acquisitions.

      It's not surprising that digital cameras, scanners and whatnot are frowned upon, and the patrons aren't really that more careful with the journals just because they'd use the library's copiers than their own scanners. I think the main issue is money.

      YMMV, this is at a Swedish university's biomedical library.

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    5. Re:Basically, you're not allowed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other than the possible lost revenue from the copier (the libraries I know don't make money on the copiers, just cover lease and maintenance, but perhaps in PA they're more aggressive), why on earth wouldn't they want people to make their own copies? I can see why they'd object to a flash camera, because it might annoy other readers, but...

    6. Re:Basically, you're not allowed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this may be a local library policy. As long as you are following the copyright laws, there is no good reason to limit the methodology used in copying material. Find a library a little less draconion.... My local library has had no problem with my canon scanner.

  92. Perhaps I might be a of some help by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 4, Informative

    First off, I -highly- advise that you post this question over at the MacNN.com forums. There are lots good Mac geeks there, and you'll probably get better responses.

    But now my 2 about this scanner issue. First off, portable scanners are hard to come by. I noticed that both epson and canon do not make such devices.

    OS X 10.2 supposedly has TWAIN support built into it. From what I hear you can now scan in Preview.app, which is cool. If you can acquire a portable USB scanner that supports TWAIN I would imagine that it would just "work" in Preview.app.

    OS X 10.2 has fantastic device support. Typically, OS X supports just about whatever perhiperal I toss at it, regardless of whether the device ships with a "Mac OS" logo on the box.

    If you can find a portable TWAIN USB scanner, I'd just purchase it. Don't worry if the device comes with Mac drivers or not. If it doesn't work, return it (so make sure you purchase something from a large computer store). However I'm betting it will work.

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    1. Re:Perhaps I might be a of some help by Eravau · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's not Preview.app that has this ability, but Image Capture. The same app that can grab images from your digital camera can also grab them from the scanner.

    2. Re:Perhaps I might be a of some help by BiOFH · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry but......
      if this were truly the case ("OS X 10.2 has fantastic device support" and TWAIN being ubiquitious) then my super hoopy Canon scanner would work. It does not and I'm awaiting drivers from Canon (soon..........).

      I love OS X, but it has what it has and nothing more.

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      - I am made of meat.
  93. C-Pen 'Pen' Scanner by rickwood · · Score: 2, Informative

    The heir to the hand scanner you mention is the CPen Pen Scanner. It seems like this is exactly what you're looking for.

    Google Search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="pen+scanner"

  94. Logitech Scanman Color 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've actually got one of those Logitech hand-held scanners sitting in a drawer. It's called the "Scanman Color 2000" and I know there's linux drivers for it somewhere. It's about 6" wide and connects via a || port. (and requires a wall wart) But the previous posts are right.. The stitching software that came with it was really crappy and you had to have a fairly smooth hand when actually scanning (or it'd all look like someone used a smudge brush on it)

    I relegated it to the "Curious junk" drawer and got myself a HP 6200c (anything but portable :-)

    I REALLY REALLY doubt there's anything close to OS-X support for it (or even classic OS) support.

    I'd probably go with the digital camera idea in your case.. Either way, you could probably find one of those logitechs on ebay or something.

  95. Re:Use a digital camera - i second this by srvivn21 · · Score: 2

    For $50 more you can get another MP. The D500 from Olympus. And it's not a crappy camera either. :o)

  96. E-bay my friend by Vodak · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Need some of the older scanners? I have the answer. THE POWER OF EBAY COMPELS YOU! =]

  97. Pen Scanner for Quotes by alexander.morgan · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you just want to scan some short segments, you might wamt to try a Pen scanner. There is one called IrisPen II specifically for the Mac from http://www.irislink.com/, that I saw at a local trade show. It's OS X compatible, but it required a reboot before they could demonstrate its use. Also, it is pretty bulky and works only while plugged into the computer. There are other stand-alone versions of the same idea, but I'm not sure if they're Mac compatible. Google it!

    Otherwise a digital camera works pretty well.

  98. Shut up already by billybob · · Score: 1

    This is slashdot. No one gives a fuck what you think. What, are you going to say I'm 13 too because I like to say FUCK? Well fuck you, fucker.

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  99. DIGITAL CAMERA! by labadie3 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    They are so high quality right now that if you take a picture of any page you should be able to take it with you...

    Plus, fast, reusable, and distracting for others with the flash on!

  100. Rant by dfinney · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    When Douglas Engelbart was active (inventor of the mouse, early hypermedia developer) he wanted to create systems to augment the human intellect. Today, we HAVE systems for acquiring, storing and retrieving vast amounts of rich media. All of your textbooks from college, or even graduate school, or even all of the books you'll ever be able to read can be stored on a handheld system. Napster, all hoopla aside, was a library of all music you ever might like to listen.

    But, the lawyers won't let us use these systems.

    Ted Nelson, inventor of the word hypertext, warned against the "Balkanization" of information systems as early as the 70s.

    Well, here we are. The dream of universal information access, the telco commercial for "all movies ever made in every language", and tools for augmenting human intellect, these things may just be unreachable not for technical reasons but for business reasons.

    1. Re:Rant by Seehund · · Score: 1

      Ted Nelson, inventor of the word hypertext, warned against the "Balkanization" of information systems as early as the 70s.

      Hypertext schmypertext! This guy apparently foresaw the post-communistic instability and sociopolitical division of the Balkan peninsula as early as the '70s, pre-emptively coined the term "Balkanization" and applied it on information systems!

      Or was he talking about Tito? ;)

      Crap, I'm tired.

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  101. Too Slow! by Bitmanhome · · Score: 2
    Funny, I was considering the same thing just last week! But the dead tree machine had two factors in its favor:
    • Cost - I only had to make 2 dozen copies, not enough to warrant anything digital.
    • Speed - The copier could crank out a copy in 4 seconds. Not many USB scanners can touch that. Especially helpful when the library's about to close.
    -B
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    Not that this wasn't entirely predictable.
  102. Re:Use a digital camera - i second this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it uses smartmedia. yuck.

  103. Max OSX Handheld USB Scanner by FinalCut · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/9911/10.scanne r.shtml

    This looks like a good solution.

  104. It's for real, alright. by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 2

    Just use a blow-dryer. It might not be labled as "The Electric Penis Dryer", but it works. Just keep it a a safe distance, and at a low setting. Trust me on that one, and you don't want to know.

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    We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
  105. Umm, no. by g_bit · · Score: 1
    Well, obviously you cared, now didn't you? And if nobody cares what I say than nobody cares what you say, and nobody cares what anybody says, so why don't we all just not say anything?

    And it wasn't just the word FUCK, it was the whole immature humor thing, combined with the immediate reliance on cursing to get another point acrossed.

    Do I care what you think? No. Do I want to make a point that you don't need to be immature to make a point? Yes. Are you fucking thick? Yes. Thank you.

    1. Re:Umm, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >nobody cares what I say

      Correct.

      >reliance on cursing to get another point acrossed

      acrossed?

      >fucking

      Said the Pot to the Kettle.

    2. Re:Umm, no. by cheese_wallet · · Score: 1

      "Are you fucking thick? Yes. Thank you."

      Well, now I think we all know you aren't thirteen. I haven't heard anyone use "thick" to signify stupidity in at least 10 years.

      So, what's worse... being 13 and acting 13 or being 35 and acting 13?

  106. Re:Use a digital camera - i second this by Gerald · · Score: 1

    If it's anything like my D510, it also acts as a USB hard drive. Yay!

  107. Re:Fucking Macintosh Bukkake Slurpers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shaddup l00zer! I jizz in your general direction! Open wide... I know you love the cock.

  108. Another Generic Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an expensive system running a proprietary Operating System and I am wondering how to do a basic task with it.

    Rather than accept that my over-priced hardware was a mistake and I should have bought cheaper generic kit that isn't as shiny but does the job, I will slate my frustration by wasting a couple of other people's time and post to Slashdot.

    The "Editors" of Slashdot, will then waste *thousands* of people's time *by actually putting up the fscking stupid question*!

    Editors: Edit!

    1. Re:Another Generic Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, smart guy-- give us the benefit of your wisdom, and explain to us how you would accomplish this "basic task" using a cheap computer and an open-source operating system.

      What? You haven't actually tried it yourself? Well then.

    2. Re:Another Generic Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give the guy a chance to answer.

      PC laptop. Any recent Linux or probably BSD. Digital camera with USB.

      Snap photos of the pages and transfer them onto the PC.

      Cocksucker.

    3. Re:Another Generic Ask Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, okay-- use a USB digital camera. Good idea, you could never do *that* with a Mac!

      Too bad Linux doesn't come with iPhoto.

      On an unrelated note, you really are an abusive fucktard, aren't you.

  109. Tell your Library they should have a digital copy by jfrumkin · · Score: 2

    Not exactly a short-term solution, but libraries are looking more and more towards providing electronic copies of information when possible. Currently, this is mostly in the form of journal articles, but I can envision a time in the not-so-distant future that most items in a library will already be in a format that you can just download to your laptop (actually, tablet).

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    "What we have here, is a failure to communicate." - Cool Hand Luke
  110. Stealing? by goldfndr · · Score: 2, Funny
    Hilary Rosen doesn't care too much if you steal a copy of "Moulin Rouge". Jack Valenti doesn't care too much if you steal a copy of NSync's "No Strings Attached".
    Here's something that bugs me: when people confuse copyright infringement with theft/stealing.
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  111. OT: Not quite so disappeared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DAK is less disappeared than you think.

  112. Hand-held scanner by Rarcke · · Score: 1

    Wow, what a great idea, I looked it up on e-bay and found what looks like it fits youre criteria.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ewItem&item =2059568256

    Good luck!

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  113. Affordable large size scanners???? by Kyrn · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know of any good legal size scanners under $300 or 11x17 that aren't $900+?

    It get's really hard for artists when they can't paint anything larger than 8x10 because all the scanners are small.

    I have had two legal size Microtek scanners. The old SCSI one was great. The USB version I've had for the last two years is a complete lemon and works right when it wants to. (there's lines running down my scans, so I can't reproduce anything from them) I sent it back to be fixed a year ago and it worked correctly for 3 months and started doing the same thing again.

  114. digital camera sample by timeOday · · Score: 2

    from a Canon S100 It sure doesn't look like a nicely scanned page, but it's legible and some contrast boost would probably help a lot.

    1. Re:digital camera sample by Reziac · · Score: 2

      A trick that was discussed in a newsgroup, to improve degraded print, was to add about 0.4 pixels worth of gaussian blur, to make the fonts more legible to the OCR program. I tried this on some bad photocopies of crappy originals, and lo and behold, OmniPage's accuracy went up by some 300%.

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  115. Damn Lying Commercials! by Ledge · · Score: 2

    I thought that when you plugged something in to a Mac, bing! it just worked. Hmmmm, i'm thinking maybe that moderately attractive young lady lied to me.

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  116. Re: not just flammable pencils by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    >> Because of the fire in Apollo 1, in which three Astronauts died, NASA required a writing instrument that would not burn in a 100% oxygen atmosphere.

    I believe they also advertised for ASTRONAUTS who would not burn in a 100% oxygen atmosphere...

  117. Ask Jeeves! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He'll be glad to shake them off for you...

  118. What's your digital camera experience? by mfnickster · · Score: 1

    Digital cameras DO NOT work at all.

    Could you elaborate on this? Why is it the case?

    Thanks!

    - MFN

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    "Slow down, Cowboy! It has been 3 years, 7 months and 26 days since you last successfully posted a comment."
  119. Re: net-plagiarism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never understood why all these teachers are complaining that their students download their term papers because they're too lazy to write their own.

    I think it's the teachers who are too lazy to make their students *revise* their writing!

  120. THE PENIS MIGHTIER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Connery: I have got to ask you about the "penis mightier"

    Trebek: What? No. Nonononono! That's "the pen is mightier"

    Connery: Gussy it up however you want Trebek, what matters is, does it work? Will it really mighty my penis, man?

    Trebek: It's not a product Mr. Connery!

    Connery: Because I've ordered products like that before. Wasted a pretty penny, I don't mind telling you. And if the "penis mightier" really works, I'll order a dozen!

    Trebek: IT'S NOT A "PENIS MIGHTIER" MR. CONNERY, THERE IS NO SUCH THING

    Cage: Wait! Wait! Wait! Are you selling "penis mightiers"?

    Trebek: NO! NO I'M NOT!

    Connery: Well you're sitting on a goldmine Trebek!

    Trebek: Right. Alright, let's move onto Final Jeopardy, that should be a lot of fun.

  121. Hewlett Packard Capshare 920 by bento · · Score: 1

    The Capshare was the perfect tool for doing this kind of thing. I bought one right before they stopped making them for $250. You can still find them on ebay, but they run $700+. I've scanned hundreds of documents using mine. It still is, IMHO, one of the coolest pieces of hardware that I own.

    The CapShare connects to the PC using IRda or a serial connection. The software for it isn't available for the Mac or Linux. It can also transfer files using the IrOBEX protocol. I've been using it with linux for a while and have also writted a WindowMaker dockapp for dealing with it(although it isn't a complete solution yet). The Capshare ships with a windows tray application for managing communications. It also comes with OCR software. The biggest problem is that the software doesn't work quite right in anything newer than WinNT.

    As far as using it with a Mac... All you would need is an IrDA port and an OBEX library. It looks like some people have had luck doing stuff with a palm. The dockapp I wrote is based on a palm pilot IrDA file transfer application. so...

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  122. I can't find a decent handheld scanner, BUT by w1r3sp33d · · Score: 1

    I can find FIVE different icons of them incase you find one!!!http://www.iconbazaar.com/computer/pg04.html

  123. Re:Hewlett Packard Capshare 920 (addition) by bento · · Score: 1

    I forgot something that is sort of important.

    The windows software allows you to output tif, and pdf. Since the capshare stores data internally as tif the data you get from it are tiffs(one tiff/page). In Linux you can make a pdf from a group of tiffs with the following:

    tiff2ps *.tif | ps2pdf - ../out.pdf

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  124. There WAS the Petiscan by littlebeancurd · · Score: 1

    http://www.nectech.com/petiscan/ Just hit the next button. It'll take you through a mini tour of the scanner the once was. You could take off the cover and hold it up to a poster, a wall, against a book or use it as a small flatbed scanner. It even came with stitching software to put together a larger picture. Anyone happen to have XP or OSX drivers? Can anyone write one? The Vuescan guy doesn't support this one because it uses an NSC chip. Anyone? Although, they've discontinued it in the US market. I first saw this at Macworld about two years ago. The best little scanner in the world - but the American market didn't get the practibility. This was around when USB was just getting a little more popular when Apple decided to push it. It's USB powered, but they only make Win98 and MacOS9 drivers for it. If you look up petiscan elsewhere, they still make OSX and WinXP compatible ones for the Japanese market.

  125. Here is one on eBay! by JoshRoss · · Score: 1

    For $2.00USD its a deal, From Logitech.

  126. LOL - thanks man. by asscroft · · Score: 1

    dude, I fell out of my chair laughing. all my co-workers think I'm crazy.

    I've been laughing for almost five minutes. It was a good 3 minutes before I got up off the floor and click the link to see the picture. I thought I had recovered until jimmy popped up on my screen. he almost looks like he is in on the joke.

    thanks man, thanks

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  127. Wow, user #324! by mangu · · Score: 2
    Oh, WTF, I guess if I had been in /. so long I would also have learned to spell acronyms by now...


    But that's not the point. Human intelligence is based on the capacity to generalize. It doesn't matter which ??AA it is, they are all trying to fuck us. Who cares which alphabet soup law the Honorable Senator Disney Hollings is trying to pass right now? Any self-respecting citizen has the obligation to fight all such laws before they are voted, no matter which acronym they're disguised in.

  128. Cpen by PimpNinjaWannaBee · · Score: 0

    You can always buy a bunch of these and attach them to a stick. Voi'la! You have your own unique handy-man portable scanner.

  129. Better Be Careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wakko Warner is an OG here on /.

  130. Re:tabletop tripod -here'a a design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a piece of hardboard like a clipboard or something.
    Get some thin stringy bungee material or good rubber bands, to hold the pages flat. If you can't run the bands around the corners, put holes or hooks or something there. The old "put a sheet of glass over it all" - who wants to carry around a sheet of glass and the cleaners required?

    You need something like the neck of an enlarger, or a slanted version of those chem lab stands. Doesn't need to be quite so heavy. Something made of a bunch of rulers and clamps would be nice... You can find tripod-mount clamps, or a mount for a webcam; this should be cheap compared to the camera...

    If you can borrow a camera from someone, wee what resolution is acceptable. 3Mp or so should be ideal.

    The camera should be centred over the page, sensor plane parallel to the page (hence the angled camera holder...)
    Use macro; use self-timer (2 sec.?) to prevent camera shake.

  131. Whoa, talk about a coincidence by Edmund · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Interestingly, I just bought a Canon FB 630P scanner today for the exact same reason. It came with no cable (which I had) or AC adapter (el cheapo at Active Surplus) and the carraige mechanism was dislodged. The scanner itself and the AC adapter cost little more than US$10 (hey, I'm a starving student, dammit). If I didn't have a midterm tomorrow I'd be hacking it open right now to fix it. Damn. :)

    It's not the most elegant solution (I have to lug around my port replicator for the parallel port, PLUS the AC adapter), but you certainly can't beat the price.

    Anybody know much about the carraige mechanisms of these things? It looks like it uses a three-pulley system - a motor turns a worm gear, which turns another gear attached to a pulley. Two other pulleys are on either ends of this one to keep it "in line". It looks like I just have to hook the belt up correctly to make it all work.

    - Ed.

  132. Perhaps I might be a of some idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TWAIN is an interface between the scanner DRIVER and an imaging app, not between the scanner and computer itself.

    So basically, your advice is 100% wrong.

  133. Yeah. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 2

    Go to Fry's. Get that one Canon scanner that just came out... the LiDE 30 or whatever it's called. It's 99 bucks and it's a USB-2.0 scanner and is so power-efficient that it runs off your USB cable. I schitt you not, man. The thing is barely 2 inches tall and will do up to 8.something by 11.something papers or whatever. It's really light, and really quiet so you could concievably carry it into a library, though I would use the "lock" at the bottom of the unit to lock the mechanism during transit. And hey, I have one of those old hand-scanners. It's a Logitech Scanman. I don't know what model number or whatever, but if someone's willing to pay me 10,000 bucks for it, I'll put it on eBay.

    1. Re:Yeah. by PrimeWaveZ · · Score: 1

      I second that, man.

      I have the 670U Canon that I bought a year ago for $100, and I can't believe how great it is. I really had reservations about Canon, as I am not a fan of their printers. I had a previously good experience with Umax, but after getting smacked down by them regarding OS X, I see that Canon has the best support for Mac OS X of any mainstream scanner maker.

      I like that it fits into my laptop case when I remove my expanding binder, and as the parent message points out, it is powered by the USB bus. I can take it to the CS lab at my school and not worry about finding a 6-outlet strip somewhere.

      Not only is their hardware top-quality (in my experience) and very affordable, it works in both the Classic Mac OS 9 as well as in any TWAIN-compatible program in Mac OS X. I use it with Photoshop, but I have been reading about compatibility with both GraphicConverter and Microsoft Word.

      Schwing!

  134. Powershot A40 by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have to second this fine person's suggestion for a Powershot A40. My sister recently invested in one and I have personally used this camera. It is very easy to use and just about any picture you take will come out magnificently, regardless of how skilled you are in photography. For a digital camera, the pictures are of very high quality. Even my camera, which is about six times the price, won't take pictures this nice unless you really understand film types, lighting situations and exposure settings. Just my two cents on this matter.

    1. Re:Powershot A40 by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

      If you want SMALL, go for the Sxxx series.. like S330

      I've found I don't even carry a big camera around, but the s110 lives happily in my pocket, and I actually use it a whole lot more!

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      Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
    2. Re:Powershot A40 by Ocelaris · · Score: 1

      On the question of cheaper cameras versus the more expensive ones, I helped buy my girlfriend a Minolta Dimage 5, 3 megapixel, all sorts of super settings, and recently got my father a cannon S30 3 megapixel also, but compact. The S30 is about 300$ less, and pops out perfect pictures everytime, the Dimage 5 is more a conundrum than anything. Bill

  135. I agree...this is a good question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone mod my anonymous coward buddy up. Good point.

    I actually found this "ask slashdot" feature quite useful. It's about getting insight, not links.

    However, I like my karma too much to post this logged in...

    and, BTW, stop it with the smug "go look for it yourself" anti-social geek attitude--you'll thank me for it once you graduate from high school...

  136. Vuescan by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    If you are annoyed at having to run the scanner control software in Classic, you might want to try out Viewscan (sorry, I don't have the link handy). It works with just about any scanner, runs in X, and has good options for output.

    It's also free to try out and very inexpensive to buy.

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  137. What development costs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many children could have been fed on those development costs?

    Hey, Ronco isn't exactly Bell Labs. From what i can tell with my EPD, it's just a rebranded food dehydrator.

  138. Joining images by neves · · Score: 1

    My canon digital camera came with a little marvelous software: photo stich. It automagically joins adjacent imagens as if they where just one. I believe there is comercial or free softwares like this.

  139. A "copyright thief?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmm, that would imply that somehow he is stealing the copyright on the works from the rightful owner.

    Wow, that's a lot more impressive than just violating the copyrights! Now, when they go to reprint the works or publish the next editions, HE can sue THEM!!

    I'm going to steal the "Harry Potter" copyrights first thing in the morning...

  140. Re:Handheld scanners and COM ports?? by Reziac · · Score: 2

    ALso, hand scanners are extremely slow, and unless your hand is very well-trained or you use one of those stabilizer gadgets, the wobble can result in text beyond the capacity of anything to OCR. That aside..

    I have an old Mustek hand scanner (it actually has better optical resolution than my middle-aged HP flatbed!) that uses a proprietary interface card, but a furious conflict with a modem revealed that it's actually a glorified COM port. Which makes me wonder -- could such a hand scanner be adapted for use with a standard external COM port?

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    ~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
  141. Red-orange? Orange-red? Salami? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that 128-color box of Crayolas contains a 'salami' colored crayon.

  142. Try a C-Pen by YuppieScum · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The C-Pen is a stand-alone, highligher-sized single-text-line scanner with OCR, LCD display, 4MB memory and IrDA. Software is available for Win32 and Mac.

    My g/f used one of these during the last 2 years of her degree, and swears by it - it's so discrete you can use it anywhere, including libraries and even book-shops!

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  143. virtual pc by raxial · · Score: 1
    install virtual pc on the mac box

    install win98se in virtual pc

    install logitech scanman's parallel port drivers in win98 os in virtual pc and scan away

    let me know if it works :)

  144. Re:Use a digital camera - i second this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you're in a low light situation, get a small tripod and a book stand.

    Yeah. Carrying around a tripod, book stand, camera,
    and computer is -SO- much simpler than lugging around a roll of dimes for the copier..

  145. Scanners may not be what you're looking for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If you have the money, buy a digital camera.
    Some can store many pictures (e.g. 600), work great
    on conferences as well, can be used to store
    other files (if they come with USB port), allow
    you to record video seq., ... With a scanner you
    can only scan. A hand held scanner won't give better
    results then a camera.

  146. Use google Idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wth, You don't need to ask this shit here, use a library computer, get on a search engine or something and find yourself a scanner moron. Damn mac lamers.....

  147. Just tried it. Didn't work by Confessed+Geek · · Score: 1

    I have a Cannon A40 (great camera!) but I tried taking a photo of a page of Linux magazine (glossy paper) in normal mode, w/ flash, and it came out unreadable. Now it could be I just didn't do it right, but take this as a caveat. Try the camera you are considerng buying and see if it works for you before investing $300(US) in a camera for scanning.

  148. Document Stand by ek_adam · · Score: 2

    At Bromfield Camera, I've seen a quadpod camera stand built for one of the Nikon digital cameras that held the camera in the perfect position to take pictures of documents placed under it.

  149. Not allowed by index72 · · Score: 0

    The courthouse where I worked would not let people do that as they earned income from the copying of documents. That might be a consideration elsewhere.

  150. Re:Digital Camera + OCR + cheapeast way out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm, reading all these replies and thinking about the countless person-hours(heh, I'm careful here) and all the costs of the equipment those persons used in their hours of carefully considered replies and I have come to one startling and yet not so obvious conclusion:

    Just buy the books cheapass!

  151. Decent semi-portable scanner. by Hallow · · Score: 2

    I don't like the digital camera idea personally, unless you get a good small tripod and a macro lens, and have some good photography experience.

    For a decent semi-portable scanner I'd say one of the canoscan N series. They use an array of LED's instead of an incandescent bulb and are USB powered. They're very thin and light, and could be put in a briefcase or backpack/laptop bag. I've even dropped mine a few times (with the lock on fortunately), and it's still ticking away just fine.

    The higher end N series scanners from Canon have OSX drivers direct from Canon, the lower end ones will be supported eventually, but for now you can use VueScan.

  152. Re:Fucking Macintosh Bukkake Slurpers by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    Whoa! Can someone mod this guy down below -1? That was intolerable. ;P

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  153. god by farfolen · · Score: 1

    i wish i could moderate an entire topic. this doesnt need to be here when we have google.

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  154. "balkanize" (for the history-impaired) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From Merriam-Webster online:

    bal-kan-ize
    ...
    Function: transitive verb
    Usage: often capitalized
    Etymology: Balkan Peninsula
    Date: 1919
    : to break up (as a region or group) into smaller and often hostile units

    1. Re:"balkanize" (for the history-impaired) by Seehund · · Score: 1

      Date: 1919

      Aha, thanks.
      I said I was tired, remember. ;)

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  155. Did a Mac kill your father or something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That item says MOST new peripherals will connect via USB, and work with PCs or Macs. It doesn't say that Apple will support EVERY FREAKING PERIPHERAL sold for PCs. As far as SCANNER standards go, Apple supports USB and TWAIN, their job is done. The rest is up to the scanner manufacturer.

    Boy, you must have gotten your nipple caught in a LaserJet or something to have this big of a bug up your ass. Just go away, you whiny little bitch.

    1. Re:Did a Mac kill your father or something? by User+956 · · Score: 2

      That item says MOST new peripherals will connect via USB, and work with PCs or Macs. It doesn't say that Apple will support EVERY FREAKING PERIPHERAL sold for PCs.

      Wow, apparently "most PC hardware" doesn't include scanners, which is too bad, given that macs are Jobs' idea of a "digital hub". I guess in Jobs' digital world, nobody scans anything.

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  156. Try Apple's product guide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you search Apple's product guide at guide.apple.com, you'll find 38 scanners that are compatible with OS X out of the box, and 95 more that are compatible with OS 9.

    You would prefer that Apple *write their own* OS X drivers for every scanner on the market, PC or Mac?

    Give up, fool, if you don't realize by now that what you expect is completely unrealistic and unreasonable, and not what Apple is advertising.

    But you're not about 'reasonable,' you're just another Mac basher who wants to feel superior because you were smart enough not to fall for "Steve Jobs' hype." Congratulations, you can crawl back to your crib.

    1. Re:Try Apple's product guide by User+956 · · Score: 2

      you'll find 38 scanners that are compatible with OS X out of the box, 95 more that are compatible with OS 9

      Given that Apple has officially declared OS9 "dead", and all new macs ship with os x, that leaves new Macs compatible with 38 scanners. That's not really "most", is it? It's more like "some", or "a small percentage". Hell, that doesn't even really make a Mac a "digital hub". As I said before. I'm not disputing that Macs interoperate, what I'm disputing is that Apple's marketing is a load of shit.

      But you're not about 'reasonable,' you're just another Mac basher who wants to feel superior because you were smart enough not to fall for "Steve Jobs' hype."

      Is claiming that products "just work", when they only actually work with a small percentage of peripherals and software "reasonable"?

      I'll leave the answer up to you... well.. Steve Jobs, because he's apparently the one thinking for you.

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    2. Re:Try Apple's product guide by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, that doesn't even really make a Mac a "digital hub."

      Oh, really? It's only a "digital hub" if it supports every known digital device in the world? Only in your thick head, chum.

      Most scanner manufacturers keep their scanner command sets proprietary, meaning that Apple would have to reverse-engineer each scanner to support it. As I said before, it's completely unrealistic and unreasonable to expect that.

      Here's a page that talks about some of the problems with scanners in OS X. Yes, I agree that scanner support is lacking. I completely disagree that this is Apple's fault.

      Is claiming that products "just work", when they only actually work with a small percentage of peripherals and software "reasonable"?

      Let's look at what Apple's marketing actually claims, as opposed to what you seem to think they claim, that Macs "just work" with everything. Just FYI, by "input devices," they mean "mice and keyboards," not scanners and the like.

      "Mac OS X offers built-in support for USB mice and keyboards. With a two-button or scroll wheel mouse, you can take advantage of convenient features of the operating system without needing to touch the keyboard. If you prefer a split ergonomic keyboard, just plug it in. You don't need to install any additional software or configure drivers..."

      "...every Mac comes with drivers for most of the printers, joy sticks, DV camcorders, keyboards, storage devices, digital cameras, input devices, MP3 players and game pads you'll be connecting to those ports."

      "...most new peripherals connect via USB or FireWire (two other industry standards), so you can use them with either PCs or Macs."

      "...Mac OS X ships with drivers for today's most popular USB inkjet printers."
      [lists 298 printers]
      "...Some printers may require a 3rd party adapter or print server."

      "You don't have to install any extra software or configure a driver to use any of the following digital cameras with iPhoto... Additional cameras may be supported..."
      [lists 182 cameras]

      "While most media readers are MSC-compliant and will 'just work,' some media readers may require additional drivers to be installed in order to work with Mac OS X. Native ('RAW') picture formats may require additional software."

      "Mac OS X and your Mac's FireWire port work together to make editing video hassle-free. iMovie automatically launches when you plug in any of the following digital video camcorders.
      [lists 84 camcorders]

      So, Apple claims:

      • compatible peripherals connect hassle-free (they "just work")
      • many (not all) PC peripherals will also work but may require extra software
      • Mac OS X supports TWAIN and includes drivers for Epson scanners
      All this is true. Apple does not claim that every peripheral will "just work" with a Mac. With scanners, it is up to the manufacturer.

      You're like a broken record. If you want us to think for ourselves, start setting an example and use your own fucking head.

    3. Re:Try Apple's product guide by User+956 · · Score: 2

      Just FYI, by "input devices," they mean "mice and keyboards," not scanners and the like.

      Of course, that's just common sense, isn't it? I would never even begin to think that a scanner would be classified as an "input device". Certainly not because it's used to input data into the computer. I'm glad they mentioned that in their commercials.

      Oh, that's right, they didn't.

      Are there any other fine-print clarified terms that I should be aware of? Maybe they mean to say that Apple products "just work with a fraction of the hardware on the market", but that got shortened so their commercial could fit in a 30-second slot.

      many (not all) PC peripherals will also work but may require extra software

      To quote Janie Porche from Apple's own switch ad campaign: "Who wants to sit on Christmas afternoon and download drivers?"

      Shall I bring up the pot and the kettle, or are you still ignoring the fact that both are black?

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  157. Please update your sig page! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you.

  158. PetiScan, for OS 9 only by waterbug · · Score: 1

    I have one of these:

    http://www.nectech.com/petiscan/

    NEC only ever released drivers for OS 9, but it worked, and it was bus-powered (cool).

    I suppose if enough people asked him, Hamrick might support it in VueScan (and, if someone gave him a unit to play with, which I would).

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  159. Re:Digital Camera + OCR + cheapeast way out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That does not make too much sense. Often the books can not be purchased, or are rather expensive. As a scientist, I copy things out of journals and books that cost an average of $200 each. They are not really sold at all to private individuals. In addition, scholars create files with bundles of research that would be easy to do digitally or with paper, but impossible with entire books. A digital camera will not save money over paper copies, but perhaps, might save time. Certainly adds portability and ease of backup.