I'd say the principal difficulty is you'd need to round up 12 billion dollars. If you found a million people willing to join your campaign to get sun "by the balls" they would all have to stump up 12 grand.
Of course, the chick singer chick sounds majorly pissed off. cool nonetheless.
Funny you should mention Swarm, it really works well live. I have multiple takes of it live, from various NYC venues, and also the Lime Spider in Akron. I just have to edit something together that the band actually likes and I might persuade them to post it on their website!
HDV (high-def digital video) is even worse. I got a powermac with a 400GB drive about a month ago. A few video projects later, it's half-full. Now there is even a more affordable consumer high-def Sony Handycam (see this), more and more people will discover that modern hard drives are just not big enough.
The raw bit-rate in camera of HDV is 25Mb, but this is expanded, at least on Macs, into Apple Intermediate Format which takes up significantly more space again.
Before I got the powermac, I really struggled to edit a 40-minute high-def rock gig project on my powerbook (60GB hard drive). I had to slim down to a minimum of other stuff just to hold the necessary media files.
Going from something linear like a continuous recording being turned into a DVD, towards a composite edit (pulling in footage from multiple events) only God knows how much storage I'm going to need.
Blatant plug : I am doing these projects for a friends band Made Out Of Babies - They Rock!
Given this, consider what a 2 or 3 Ghz Itanium could do.
This is not the point. Chips that perform very well per MHz normally have longer (that is, more complex) pipeline stages that can't be clocked as high as chips that clock higher with more, shorter pipeline stages.
It is only fair to compare chips delivered performance on the day you take your measurement, and then perhaps adjust for cost. You can't adjust for MHz or you'll get completely misleading results.
sad news for you, OSI is just a model, a reference framework that no real world networking model follows
What, not even DECNET/OSI? I beg to differ - see this Wikipedia article - the OSI model got coded. The size of the manual set alone was enough to scare most programmers away, let alone their actual contents.
who is going to buy into a platform that will be obsolete in 9 months?
By the time I got mine (dual 2.7) the announcement was out. I probably could have returned it, but I have kept it and you know what? It's FANTASTIC. I bought it to render my iDVD files quicker and it's about 20X faster. Sure I know this may be due to larger caches and not representative of the general performance level, but I don't care, that's what it's there for!
It is the fastest way to run Apple software for at least the next 9 months. I don't know about you, but I plan to do a lot of work during that time!
Sure, if I hadn't bought by the time the Macintels are about to launch I would hold off, but you know what, even then what I might look for is cheaper G5s. No way do I want potential unstable Mac-OS-on-Intel driver issues in my dream machine Powermac. No, for me G5 dualies have a long life ahead of them.
Uh... for the most part Jobs statement about efficiency per watt was utter bullshit... even considering how efficient the Pentium M may be.
I don't want to appear to knock the Mac. Hell, I unpacked my dual G5 2.7/2GB/400GB/radeon 6560 last night.
However, you have to consider who is going to control the naming and marketing of the new intel-based Macs. If Steve thinks they are going to be more energy efficient, then that might make it into the marketing material, true or not.
Just like the G4 was a "supercomputer", right?
My quip wasn't too serious. Anyway when I'm using my new G5 I wont be watching the power consumption and heat output, no, all I'll be doing is watching the progress meter on MPEG2 rendering in iDVD and (hopefully) no longer yelling "COME ON!":)
Apple to Use Intel Microprocessors Beginning in 2006
WWDC 2005, SAN FRANCISCO--June 6, 2005--At its Worldwide Developer Conference today, Apple® announced plans to deliver models of its Macintosh® computers using Intel microprocessors by this time next year, and to transition all of its Macs to using Intel microprocessors by the end of 2007. Apple previewed a version of its critically acclaimed operating system, Mac OS® X Tiger, running on an Intel-based Mac® to the over 3,800 developers attending CEO Steve Jobs' keynote address. Apple also announced the availability of a Developer Transition Kit, consisting of an Intel-based Mac development system along with preview versions of Apple's software, which will allow developers to prepare versions of their applications which will run on both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs.
"Our goal is to provide our customers with the best personal computers in the world, and looking ahead Intel has the strongest processor roadmap by far," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "It's been ten years since our transition to the PowerPC, and we think Intel's technology will help us create the best personal computers for the next ten years."
"We are thrilled to have the world's most innovative personal computer company as a customer," said Paul Otellini, president and CEO of Intel. "Apple helped found the PC industry and throughout the years has been known for fresh ideas and new approaches. We look forward to providing advanced chip technologies, and to collaborating on new initiatives, to help Apple continue to deliver innovative products for years to come."
"We plan to create future versions of Microsoft Office for the Mac that support both PowerPC and Intel processors," said Roz Ho, general manager of Microsoft's Macintosh Business Unit. "We have a strong relationship with Apple and will work closely with them to continue our long tradition of making great applications for a great platform."
"We think this is a really smart move on Apple's part and plan to create future versions of our Creative Suite for Macintosh that support both PowerPC and Intel processors," said Bruce Chizen, CEO of Adobe.
The Developer Transition Kit is available starting today for $999 to all Apple Developer Connection Select and Premier members. Further information for Apple Developer Connection members is available at developer.apple.com. Intel plans to provide industry leading development tools support for Apple later this year, including the Intel C/C++ Compiler for Apple, Intel Fortran Compiler for Apple, Intel Math Kernel Libraries for Apple and Intel Integrated Performance Primitives for Apple.
Intel (www.intel.com http://www.intel.com/> ), the world's largest chip maker, is also a leading manufacturer of computer, networking and communications products.
Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning desktop and notebook computers, OS X operating system, and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital music revolution with its iPod portable music players and iTunes online music store.
I am expecting a Fedex shipping number for my new Powermac dual 2.7/2GB/400GB/wifi/ATI Radeon 6560 TODAY!
I got one, but it was DOA. I returned it and they built the replacement end of last week. In fact I have the shipping number, it just doesn't work yet. I've literally been pressing reload in my browser on that page every few minutes.
So on the day my $4000 PowerPC based Apple workstation ships, Steve Jobs is going to tell me it's soon going to be obsolete? Gah!!
I will be very interested to hear how he spins this!
I contacted a reporter who filed this story for one of the on-line financial news websites. He confirmed the WSJ did actually say Intel CPUs for Apple PCs.
For the love of all that is holy, don't link to the real article. Blindly questing for page hits is what got us in this mess to begin with.
FWIW I completely disagree with the above. Extra page hits to this story are no skin off my nose. What I object to much more strongly is articles on Slashdot without the links to the material being discussed. I spent quite a while to find the link I posted, and I wanted other people not to have to waste their time. I had not seen the Google cache link at the time.
After the last film, I resolved to not watch this one in the cinema. However just now when I came across a warning about spoilers in a review I had to stop reading. Why? Because this is the last fucking Star Wars movie of my entire life. It may suck, almost certainly will suck in parts, but damnit, it's all I've got! Lucas has got me again.
I need him (his creations) enough that I wont read spoilers. I don't want to ruin it.
I failed to resist the temptation of buying the AOTC DVD, which perhaps was a sign, and now I am feeling the old thrill come flooding back, FULL STRENGTH.
Somewhere in my head, there is a guy who was muttering "these days I really insist on a good plot, I have to believe in the characters" and all of a sudden now it's "ooh, lightsabers, space battles, mass Jedi Death, this is going to RULE!"
What is it with automanufacturers nowdays anyway? I look at new cars and their prices and am dumbfounded. Even with all the government safety and emmissions standards you should still be able to buy a brand new car for $5000.00 USD ---and I'm not talking about a $#!+box of a car either.
$5k is pushing it but Kia sells the Rio for $9600 brand new and Hyundai has something similar. See this and this.
I suspect that $10k in 2005 dollars probably compares quite well to the entry-level cost in years gone by equalised by, say, median yearly wage.
My guess is that these cars just do not sell that well. People want a bit more and are willing to pay for it.
It was useful news to me. The iMac may have just crossed the threshhold for me into "good enough compromise since I can't really afford a powermac plus screen"
This one's bizarre, but we heard at lunch today that Apple is unhappy with the PowerPC production at IBM and will be switching to Intel-compatible chips this very year. Yeah, seriously.
This article although informative, didn't do the best job in technical explanations, that is when I spotted the following line... "A PC maker, for example, would not have to equip its computers with hard drives compatible with both formats".
[I added double quotes to the quote from the article]
Some people I know refer to the PC case as the "hard drive". If that was the sense in which hard drive was used in this article, then it translates to saying that this merger would avoid PCs having to have multiple high-def DVD drives, which makes sense and would be "A Good Thing" (tm)
What do the new films have? Plastic line recitals and effects galore. Can someone name one funny scene in either of the last two films? How about one witty exchange? Or one action sequence that is even half as cool as the surprise attack by the Empire in RotJ? Do you feel that the battle between the plastic robots and Jar-Jar armed with blue beachballs stacks up?
I agree with all of this, the plastic robots and blue beach balls scene is awful, as is the trite "oh let's all fire our grappling gun at a very narrow window frame area and all rappel up like synchronised marrionettes" scene.
However, I absolutely love other bits and pieces. Often very short bits. Ideally when nobody speaks.
For example:-
the lightsaber battle between Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul. Excellent.
Qui-Gon wasting the blast doors with his lightsaber
The Jedi's flicking off at super-human speed when confronted by shielded Droidekars
Anakin wasting droidekars by accident in the hangar (stupid bit of plot, but just looks so cool).
a very brief scene where Obi-Wan is fleeing flying plastic robots and Qui-Gon deflects the blasts with a casual elegance
"There's always a bigger fish" scene. Again, not a great bit of story, but every time I hear Jar-Jar say "biiiig goober fish" and the little ship plunges into the depths it's a thrill
Flying scenes over Coruscant
Ian McDiarmids dual roles, his pure evilness as the emperor contrasted with his joviality as Senator Palpatine.
Anakin's mother is just excellent all the time, she even make it easier to tolerate George's appalling stilted dialog.
Qui-Gon's first battle with Darth Maul. I don't know why, but I really like this bit too.
The trick for me is to be open to the joy and thrills available from the visuals, music, action, design etc etc whilst refusing to have the whole thing spoiled by the plot, dialog, acting or (at times) simplistic and annoying CGI.
Let's just concede they can actually produce a junk file which has the same hash. I'll even skip over which hash - let's also say it's one of the useful ones.
I'd be tempted to step up the credentials for a file, say one hash for the entire file, and another for the first 1kb, and so on. It should get significantly harder with each additional verification point.
What Linus implied by embracing BK was that, for some applications, proprietary is the best.
I disagree. What I think Linus was saying is simply "best is best". In other words the best SCM tool (whatever its license) is the best SCM tool. He wanted to use the best SCM tool, which he considers to be Bitkeeper, so he did.
For example, if there had been a better tool which happened to be free, Linus would have used that, no matter his friendship with Larry McVoy.
It seems that his whole point is he's not dogmatic. Licensing is important for the software he writes - he chose the GPL - but for software he merely uses (tools) then he just wants the best tool for the job. In that category, the license doesn't matter as much as the quality - because the better tool lets him do more and better kernel work.
I think this is reasonable as far as it goes, except that for such a critical tool as the source code management system, the license actually DOES matter. It matters in principle, in my opinion, and it also matters practically, because the Linux project is all about collaboration, and clearly a lot of Linus' collaborators never agreed with the choice of Bitkeeper. What a mess!
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I'd say the principal difficulty is you'd need to round up 12 billion dollars. If you found a million people willing to join your campaign to get sun "by the balls" they would all have to stump up 12 grand.
Swarm sounds pretty cool.
Of course, the chick singer chick sounds majorly pissed off. cool nonetheless.
Funny you should mention Swarm, it really works well live. I have multiple takes of it live, from various NYC venues, and also the Lime Spider in Akron. I just have to edit something together that the band actually likes and I might persuade them to post it on their website!
The raw bit-rate in camera of HDV is 25Mb, but this is expanded, at least on Macs, into Apple Intermediate Format which takes up significantly more space again.
Before I got the powermac, I really struggled to edit a 40-minute high-def rock gig project on my powerbook (60GB hard drive). I had to slim down to a minimum of other stuff just to hold the necessary media files.
Going from something linear like a continuous recording being turned into a DVD, towards a composite edit (pulling in footage from multiple events) only God knows how much storage I'm going to need.
Blatant plug : I am doing these projects for a friends band Made Out Of Babies - They Rock!
This is not the point. Chips that perform very well per MHz normally have longer (that is, more complex) pipeline stages that can't be clocked as high as chips that clock higher with more, shorter pipeline stages.
It is only fair to compare chips delivered performance on the day you take your measurement, and then perhaps adjust for cost. You can't adjust for MHz or you'll get completely misleading results.
sad news for you, OSI is just a model, a reference framework that no real world networking model follows
What, not even DECNET/OSI? I beg to differ - see this Wikipedia article - the OSI model got coded. The size of the manual set alone was enough to scare most programmers away, let alone their actual contents.
who is going to buy into a platform that will be obsolete in 9 months?
By the time I got mine (dual 2.7) the announcement was out. I probably could have returned it, but I have kept it and you know what? It's FANTASTIC. I bought it to render my iDVD files quicker and it's about 20X faster. Sure I know this may be due to larger caches and not representative of the general performance level, but I don't care, that's what it's there for!
It is the fastest way to run Apple software for at least the next 9 months. I don't know about you, but I plan to do a lot of work during that time!
Sure, if I hadn't bought by the time the Macintels are about to launch I would hold off, but you know what, even then what I might look for is cheaper G5s. No way do I want potential unstable Mac-OS-on-Intel driver issues in my dream machine Powermac. No, for me G5 dualies have a long life ahead of them.
Uh... for the most part Jobs statement about efficiency per watt was utter bullshit... even considering how efficient the Pentium M may be.
I don't want to appear to knock the Mac. Hell, I unpacked my dual G5 2.7/2GB/400GB/radeon 6560 last night.
However, you have to consider who is going to control the naming and marketing of the new intel-based Macs. If Steve thinks they are going to be more energy efficient, then that might make it into the marketing material, true or not.
Just like the G4 was a "supercomputer", right?
My quip wasn't too serious. Anyway when I'm using my new G5 I wont be watching the power consumption and heat output, no, all I'll be doing is watching the progress meter on MPEG2 rendering in iDVD and (hopefully) no longer yelling "COME ON!" :)
Now, the question is... what will the new platform be called? Certainly not PowerMac...
Power Efficient Mac?
Apple to Use Intel Microprocessors Beginning in 2006
WWDC 2005, SAN FRANCISCO--June 6, 2005--At its Worldwide Developer Conference today, Apple® announced plans to deliver models of its Macintosh® computers using Intel microprocessors by this time next year, and to transition all of its Macs to using Intel microprocessors by the end of 2007. Apple previewed a version of its critically acclaimed operating system, Mac OS® X Tiger, running on an Intel-based Mac® to the over 3,800 developers attending CEO Steve Jobs' keynote address. Apple also announced the availability of a Developer Transition Kit, consisting of an Intel-based Mac development system along with preview versions of Apple's software, which will allow developers to prepare versions of their applications which will run on both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs.
"Our goal is to provide our customers with the best personal computers in the world, and looking ahead Intel has the strongest processor roadmap by far," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "It's been ten years since our transition to the PowerPC, and we think Intel's technology will help us create the best personal computers for the next ten years."
"We are thrilled to have the world's most innovative personal computer company as a customer," said Paul Otellini, president and CEO of Intel. "Apple helped found the PC industry and throughout the years has been known for fresh ideas and new approaches. We look forward to providing advanced chip technologies, and to collaborating on new initiatives, to help Apple continue to deliver innovative products for years to come."
"We plan to create future versions of Microsoft Office for the Mac that support both PowerPC and Intel processors," said Roz Ho, general manager of Microsoft's Macintosh Business Unit. "We have a strong relationship with Apple and will work closely with them to continue our long tradition of making great applications for a great platform."
"We think this is a really smart move on Apple's part and plan to create future versions of our Creative Suite for Macintosh that support both PowerPC and Intel processors," said Bruce Chizen, CEO of Adobe.
The Developer Transition Kit is available starting today for $999 to all Apple Developer Connection Select and Premier members. Further information for Apple Developer Connection members is available at developer.apple.com. Intel plans to provide industry leading development tools support for Apple later this year, including the Intel C/C++ Compiler for Apple, Intel Fortran Compiler for Apple, Intel Math Kernel Libraries for Apple and Intel Integrated Performance Primitives for Apple.
Intel (www.intel.com http://www.intel.com/> ), the world's largest chip maker, is also a leading manufacturer of computer, networking and communications products.
Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning desktop and notebook computers, OS X operating system, and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital music revolution with its iPod portable music players and iTunes online music store.
Also :-
Tiger shipped 2 million copies!
Podcasting will be built into iTunes.
Users can subscribe to video podcasts at iTMS
I am expecting a Fedex shipping number for my new Powermac dual 2.7/2GB/400GB/wifi/ATI Radeon 6560 TODAY!
I got one, but it was DOA. I returned it and they built the replacement end of last week. In fact I have the shipping number, it just doesn't work yet. I've literally been pressing reload in my browser on that page every few minutes.
So on the day my $4000 PowerPC based Apple workstation ships, Steve Jobs is going to tell me it's soon going to be obsolete? Gah!!
I will be very interested to hear how he spins this!
I contacted a reporter who filed this story for one of the on-line financial news websites. He confirmed the WSJ did actually say Intel CPUs for Apple PCs.
For the love of all that is holy, don't link to the real article. Blindly questing for page hits is what got us in this mess to begin with.
FWIW I completely disagree with the above. Extra page hits to this story are no skin off my nose. What I object to much more strongly is articles on Slashdot without the links to the material being discussed. I spent quite a while to find the link I posted, and I wanted other people not to have to waste their time. I had not seen the Google cache link at the time.
Appears to be this piece of crap
After the last film, I resolved to not watch this one in the cinema. However just now when I came across a warning about spoilers in a review I had to stop reading. Why? Because this is the last fucking Star Wars movie of my entire life. It may suck, almost certainly will suck in parts, but damnit, it's all I've got! Lucas has got me again.
I need him (his creations) enough that I wont read spoilers. I don't want to ruin it.
I failed to resist the temptation of buying the AOTC DVD, which perhaps was a sign, and now I am feeling the old thrill come flooding back, FULL STRENGTH.
Somewhere in my head, there is a guy who was muttering "these days I really insist on a good plot, I have to believe in the characters" and all of a sudden now it's "ooh, lightsabers, space battles, mass Jedi Death, this is going to RULE!"
Easy. I just wont see it.
But you'll still secretly want to.
MAC address, not IP address.
What is it with automanufacturers nowdays anyway? I look at new cars and their prices and am dumbfounded. Even with all the government safety and emmissions standards you should still be able to buy a brand new car for $5000.00 USD ---and I'm not talking about a $#!+box of a car either.
$5k is pushing it but Kia sells the Rio for $9600 brand new and Hyundai has something similar. See this and this.
I suspect that $10k in 2005 dollars probably compares quite well to the entry-level cost in years gone by equalised by, say, median yearly wage.
My guess is that these cars just do not sell that well. People want a bit more and are willing to pay for it.
It was useful news to me. The iMac may have just crossed the threshhold for me into "good enough compromise since I can't really afford a powermac plus screen"
I was much more interested to read this :-
This one's bizarre, but we heard at lunch today that Apple is unhappy with the PowerPC production at IBM and will be switching to Intel-compatible chips this very year. Yeah, seriously.
... in Thurrot's blog from this Tuesday.
Huh?!? see this - scroll down to "5.45pm"
This article although informative, didn't do the best job in technical explanations, that is when I spotted the following line... "A PC maker, for example, would not have to equip its computers with hard drives compatible with both formats".
[I added double quotes to the quote from the article]
Some people I know refer to the PC case as the "hard drive". If that was the sense in which hard drive was used in this article, then it translates to saying that this merger would avoid PCs having to have multiple high-def DVD drives, which makes sense and would be "A Good Thing" (tm)
What do the new films have? Plastic line recitals and effects galore. Can someone name one funny scene in either of the last two films? How about one witty exchange? Or one action sequence that is even half as cool as the surprise attack by the Empire in RotJ? Do you feel that the battle between the plastic robots and Jar-Jar armed with blue beachballs stacks up?
I agree with all of this, the plastic robots and blue beach balls scene is awful, as is the trite "oh let's all fire our grappling gun at a very narrow window frame area and all rappel up like synchronised marrionettes" scene.
However, I absolutely love other bits and pieces. Often very short bits. Ideally when nobody speaks.
For example :-
- the lightsaber battle between Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul. Excellent.
- Qui-Gon wasting the blast doors with his lightsaber
- The Jedi's flicking off at super-human speed when confronted by shielded Droidekars
- Anakin wasting droidekars by accident in the hangar (stupid bit of plot, but just looks so cool).
- a very brief scene where Obi-Wan is fleeing flying plastic robots and Qui-Gon deflects the blasts with a casual elegance
- "There's always a bigger fish" scene. Again, not a great bit of story, but every time I hear Jar-Jar say "biiiig goober fish" and the little ship plunges into the depths it's a thrill
- Flying scenes over Coruscant
- Ian McDiarmids dual roles, his pure evilness as the emperor contrasted with his joviality as Senator Palpatine.
- Anakin's mother is just excellent all the time, she even make it easier to tolerate George's appalling stilted dialog.
- Qui-Gon's first battle with Darth Maul. I don't know why, but I really like this bit too.
The trick for me is to be open to the joy and thrills available from the visuals, music, action, design etc etc whilst refusing to have the whole thing spoiled by the plot, dialog, acting or (at times) simplistic and annoying CGI.Let's just concede they can actually produce a junk file which has the same hash. I'll even skip over which hash - let's also say it's one of the useful ones.
I'd be tempted to step up the credentials for a file, say one hash for the entire file, and another for the first 1kb, and so on. It should get significantly harder with each additional verification point.
What Linus implied by embracing BK was that, for some applications, proprietary is the best.
I disagree. What I think Linus was saying is simply "best is best". In other words the best SCM tool (whatever its license) is the best SCM tool. He wanted to use the best SCM tool, which he considers to be Bitkeeper, so he did.
For example, if there had been a better tool which happened to be free, Linus would have used that, no matter his friendship with Larry McVoy.
It seems that his whole point is he's not dogmatic. Licensing is important for the software he writes - he chose the GPL - but for software he merely uses (tools) then he just wants the best tool for the job. In that category, the license doesn't matter as much as the quality - because the better tool lets him do more and better kernel work.
I think this is reasonable as far as it goes, except that for such a critical tool as the source code management system, the license actually DOES matter. It matters in principle, in my opinion, and it also matters practically, because the Linux project is all about collaboration, and clearly a lot of Linus' collaborators never agreed with the choice of Bitkeeper. What a mess!