The space station is just one step. Once we have a space station, it will be tons easier doing other things in space. We can really explore the near solar system.
Also, why not fund oceanic research? Instead of transfering funds form one scientific endeaver to another, lets take some money out of that huge DoD budget. It is big enough as it is.
I had a very bad feeling when I first read this article. I thought, yep, flamewar city.
Of course, someone had to call Miguel, Miguel the mouth. When you call someone a fourth grader-like name, people tend to discount everything you say.
And then there are people who like stereotype people: "Well, I noticed that Debian users tend to flame Red Hat users." or "Never has a KDE developer flamed Gnome." The bad thing about stereotypes is that they are never true. There are always exceptions to the rule (Well, actually the moment there is an exception to a rule, the rule is no longer valid.)
Too many people like to assert artificial boundaries. They take sides, defend their side, and attack the other side. They like fight in some sort of heroic endeaver. This is not how a community should work.
I use Red Hat. Not because it is Red Hat, but because it is Linux. Understand this. Red Hat needs no bashing.
I use Gnome. Not because there is anything wrong with KDE, but because I like Gnome.
I use Cooledit. There is nothing wrong with Emacs or vi. I do use Emacs and vi at times for what it is worth.
Ordinarily, I would have five or more responses to this post, in flames. They don't flame because I have expressed my opinion. They flame because they know what side I am on. When they see I am on the other side, they attack.
So I urge everyone to vanish all artificial boundaries, to unite as a comminuty again. If you have a technical problem with Red Hat, tell them about it or fix it yourself. Complaining does nothing but fight an imaginary war. In fact, if you tell them about it, you may improve the distro, which helps everyone who uses Red Hat, and Linux in general.
Do not stereotype people. It simply adds another artificial boundary. Red Hat is my distro, not my religion, not my country, and I have no reason to fight for it or against it.
My point is, this community we are all fond of, need not be divided. Accept another persons's preferences like you would another persons clothes: something that separates you from everyone else.
Don't talk about choice when you bash the choice of someone else.
I think rumors of Microsoft's assimilation ability is greatly exagerated.
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Re:Drop the Space station, fund this kind of stuff
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Well, think of it this way. When we get the space station working, we can send more of these probes into space without the extreme costs for fuel on a space shuttle. One of the advantages about a Space Station is to make space travel cheaper.
Too many of fail to realize that there are people who make software, not companies. We pay the corporations who pay the programmers. If we don't pay, guess who else don't get paid.
Gee, Im glad Im not a pirate anymore. I was 15 years old and I used to want to learn to program. I didn't have Linux then and my alternatives where QBASIC, begging my parents for money, looking for really crappy free compilers, or getting a pirated version of turbo c. I didn't download it (I felt guilty) but I know I could of. So I ended up using QBASIC for all its worth.
Now I have a free development enviroment to learn on and download free quality software of the internet often. Them software pirates don't know what they are missing.
I do have the feeling the most pirated software is either games or QBASIC 4.0. Games, because you got the "I am so cool" group. And QBASIC 4 because so many people know QBASIC really good and they want to do real programming with it (QB 4 is a compiler). A lot of people have offered money to Microsoft for QB 4 but they refuse to sell.
So, software pirates, you have no reason to break the law now. If you don't want linux, fine. There are good free compilers for windows (DJGPP is pretty good, they made quake with it).
(Darn. This post is infocused isn't it. Ill do better later)
Companies are largely involunteerly organizations that can't help BUT make money. Thats why Microsoft is the way it is. They tried to stop but once they found that they can make even MORE money, resistance is futile.
The same thing exists with Red Hat. The only difference is that if they mess up, they have a community to awnser to. We have to make them beg for our money.
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Re:This should happen every summer
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No. I am not just talking about the Gimp. I am talking about all the projects. I don't know of many people who have the time or the desire to go through all the projects, download from CVS, compile it, just to see whats gonna be around in a half a year. Articles like this are nice because, even though I am not an avid Gimp user, I still have an idea what's happening. Id like to see more preview articles like these.
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This should happen every summer
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After this preview of Gimp 1.2 and that last The Future of KDE rticle, we should have a Preview Month every summer. It could be fun, finding out what the developers have been working on the previous year. Think of it like a holiday.
Will CLD be available as a standalone or bundled with Corel's applications?
Corel is still in the process of determining wether CLD will be bundled with Corel applications only, or if it will also be available as a standalone product. Corel's objective is to give as many desktop users access to Linux as possible and if there is a demand for a standalone product, the company will certainly investigate the opportunity.
Im not sure, but can an Open Source pruduct not be a stand-alone pruduct? This has smells of a propietary liscense.
Many of us have made a number of compromises already. I urge everyone to not make anymore. I understand those of you who don't live all free software but this is an entire distribution. I don't think there is a non-GPLed distribution right now. I for one will not buy a remotely propietary distribution. World Domination can wait. Don't give up what makes Linux great.
I think this is a good idea. I am not worried about getting anyone pissed. I have been pissed about the misuse of "hacker" for a while now and obviosly no one was worried about not getting me pissed.
The problem is not with the term hacker. Let me explain:
I was telling some non-computer friends of mine what a hacker really is. I explained that a hacker is not someone who breaks into computers, merely someone who is good with them. They kind of accepted that. I went on to say that someone who breaks into computers is a cracker. They laughed at me.
I was sorta puzzled. But then I managed to understand. To them, a cracker is not a person at all. To them, a cracker is a salted food you put in soup. Saltines come to mind. I don't think most people can call mischevious people crackers for this reason.
Seriously, we don't need a new word for hacker, we need a new word for cracker. I propose calling people who break into computers penetrators. If that don't sound right, what about haxors, breakers, or walkers. Anyone know of anything better?
We're the one sitting on Shadow Man's right shoulder with the halo. We have to make certain that propietizing their distro is not safe for their business. We have to let the stock-holders know that. The only way to make money with Linux is free software. This is not your typical company nor your typical market. You make money by making us happy.
If we do this, then the good guys at Red Hat will have a better stance when push comes to shove with their stock-holders.
I was thinking the same thing, given the nature of free software. I guess the money could go to servers, bandwidth. If they get enough money they could hire some free lance programmers. And graphic artists for logos and web page design and such. But all in all, I don't think it help much. I hope someone could give us a good reason to donate. I mean, if you donate to the hungary, they get food. If you donate to the homeless, they get homes. If you donate to the SPI they get... er. Where does the money go. It seems to me that money given to the FSF is used to hire people to manage the money (See, recursion isn't just an acronym, its a business model!).
Come on! This is slashdot. There is no need to condem people who post based on technicalities. In fact, Bruce's post was an extension of the topic and is perfectly legal, even with your comment patrol.
This is slashdot. People have the right to express their opinions. And it is common courtesy not condem people for doing that.
If I knew any Mac community sites, Id look for them but I don't know of any. Anyone know where on the web they are comming from? It would be interesting if there was the equivalent to/. there. My suspicion is that there are a series of Mac sites routing their regulars to the Sierra site. All we need is one/.:)
Gee, this is sorta like war, huh? They will probably disregard the results anyway but this is entertaining. Gee, I wonder who would win?
Hmm. If Mozilla can act as a container... Anyone want to use the IE5 ActiveX control in Mozilla? It would be interesting to see if this would work. It would be a whole difference in competition between the two browsers. If Mozilla has more compliant renderer and IE has a better interface (complete with a go button)...
Well, I guess I better put a disclaimer here first. I am not a Physics student. This is pretty much a layman's post. Feel free to correct me.
Secondly, don't flame people for thinking Star Trek. Most people who follow Star Trek, follow it because this kind of thing could happen. Im not gonna insist we name any ships Enterprise or that we need to make a deflector dish. I just think the mere possibility of even sending probes to other stars is exciting.
Now, for the real point of my post. I know that these are theories and we got the smartest people in the world on this (some of them post on slashdot:) but this tells me that visiting other star systems is at least plausable. This information along with recent findings like extrasolar planets makes me think that the possibility of extraterestrial life isn't that far fetched. Im talking reality here. It seems likely, to me, that there are ETs warping through space (if you will) as we speak. Who knows, they may have found us already, or they may not even be looking. They may stumble across us someday.
I think Im gonna participate in that SETI@home thing.
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Re:Actually, it's Gnome :45, KDE:18
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Yep. There is significant bias here. Or appears to be. There is the possibility that there simply isn't as much news on the KDE front. But that is circumstantial. I would be upset too if I was a KDE advocate. I will keep my eyes open on slashdot.
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Re:Redhat does not support KDE
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They have two full time developers on KDE the last I heard. I feel that is very fair since i know of no other distribution that supports and develops both major desktop enviroments. But they have every right to support Gnome though, they put so much resources into GPL code. We can nothing but benefit.
I did my homework. There is that convenient topics link to the left there. There are 18 about KDE and 29 about Gnome. Not as bad as you say but it is a little one sided thought. Not enough for me to complain.
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Re:Silent cries from distant places
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True, but I want Linux on the cutting edge. It would be sad if Linux kept emulating Windows everytime MS came up with something new. Anyone see Microsoft's Neptune project? That could be Microsoft's next innovation, will we copy that too?
I guess I get tired of Windows-clones, Next-clones, and Mac-clones very easily.
Also, why not fund oceanic research? Instead of transfering funds form one scientific endeaver to another, lets take some money out of that huge DoD budget. It is big enough as it is.
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Of course, someone had to call Miguel, Miguel the mouth. When you call someone a fourth grader-like name, people tend to discount everything you say.
And then there are people who like stereotype people: "Well, I noticed that Debian users tend to flame Red Hat users." or "Never has a KDE developer flamed Gnome." The bad thing about stereotypes is that they are never true. There are always exceptions to the rule (Well, actually the moment there is an exception to a rule, the rule is no longer valid.)
Too many people like to assert artificial boundaries. They take sides, defend their side, and attack the other side. They like fight in some sort of heroic endeaver. This is not how a community should work.
I use Red Hat. Not because it is Red Hat, but because it is Linux. Understand this. Red Hat needs no bashing.
I use Gnome. Not because there is anything wrong with KDE, but because I like Gnome.
I use Cooledit. There is nothing wrong with Emacs or vi. I do use Emacs and vi at times for what it is worth.
Ordinarily, I would have five or more responses to this post, in flames. They don't flame because I have expressed my opinion. They flame because they know what side I am on. When they see I am on the other side, they attack.
So I urge everyone to vanish all artificial boundaries, to unite as a comminuty again. If you have a technical problem with Red Hat, tell them about it or fix it yourself. Complaining does nothing but fight an imaginary war. In fact, if you tell them about it, you may improve the distro, which helps everyone who uses Red Hat, and Linux in general.
Do not stereotype people. It simply adds another artificial boundary. Red Hat is my distro, not my religion, not my country, and I have no reason to fight for it or against it.
My point is, this community we are all fond of, need not be divided. Accept another persons's preferences like you would another persons clothes: something that separates you from everyone else.
Don't talk about choice when you bash the choice of someone else.
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To gray such things even blurer...
Is something illegal always wrong? Is something wrong always illegal?
I am saying this because justifying something as wrong because it is illegal is not logical. The law doesn't define morality.
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Now I have a free development enviroment to learn on and download free quality software of the internet often. Them software pirates don't know what they are missing.
I do have the feeling the most pirated software is either games or QBASIC 4.0. Games, because you got the "I am so cool" group. And QBASIC 4 because so many people know QBASIC really good and they want to do real programming with it (QB 4 is a compiler). A lot of people have offered money to Microsoft for QB 4 but they refuse to sell.
So, software pirates, you have no reason to break the law now. If you don't want linux, fine. There are good free compilers for windows (DJGPP is pretty good, they made quake with it).
(Darn. This post is infocused isn't it. Ill do better later)
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The same thing exists with Red Hat. The only difference is that if they mess up, they have a community to awnser to. We have to make them beg for our money.
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Corel is still in the process of determining wether CLD will be bundled with Corel applications only, or if it will also be available as a standalone product. Corel's objective is to give as many desktop users access to Linux as possible and if there is a demand for a standalone product, the company will certainly investigate the opportunity.
Im not sure, but can an Open Source pruduct not be a stand-alone pruduct? This has smells of a propietary liscense.
Many of us have made a number of compromises already. I urge everyone to not make anymore. I understand those of you who don't live all free software but this is an entire distribution. I don't think there is a non-GPLed distribution right now. I for one will not buy a remotely propietary distribution. World Domination can wait. Don't give up what makes Linux great.
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I was telling some non-computer friends of mine what a hacker really is. I explained that a hacker is not someone who breaks into computers, merely someone who is good with them. They kind of accepted that. I went on to say that someone who breaks into computers is a cracker. They laughed at me.
I was sorta puzzled. But then I managed to understand. To them, a cracker is not a person at all. To them, a cracker is a salted food you put in soup. Saltines come to mind. I don't think most people can call mischevious people crackers for this reason.
Seriously, we don't need a new word for hacker, we need a new word for cracker. I propose calling people who break into computers penetrators. If that don't sound right, what about haxors, breakers, or walkers. Anyone know of anything better?
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If we do this, then the good guys at Red Hat will have a better stance when push comes to shove with their stock-holders.
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I hope someone could give us a good reason to donate. I mean, if you donate to the hungary, they get food. If you donate to the homeless, they get homes. If you donate to the SPI they get... er. Where does the money go. It seems to me that money given to the FSF is used to hire people to manage the money (See, recursion isn't just an acronym, its a business model!).
Does anybody know where the money goes?
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This is slashdot. People have the right to express their opinions. And it is common courtesy not condem people for doing that.
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Gee, this is sorta like war, huh? They will probably disregard the results anyway but this is entertaining. Gee, I wonder who would win?
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Okay. Im just theorizing here.
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Secondly, don't flame people for thinking Star Trek. Most people who follow Star Trek, follow it because this kind of thing could happen. Im not gonna insist we name any ships Enterprise or that we need to make a deflector dish. I just think the mere possibility of even sending probes to other stars is exciting.
Now, for the real point of my post. I know that these are theories and we got the smartest people in the world on this (some of them post on slashdot
I think Im gonna participate in that SETI@home thing.
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I guess I get tired of Windows-clones, Next-clones, and Mac-clones very easily.
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