Question: how old are you?:). I suspect there are more people with my issues than you give me credit for, although my point continues to be: the $2k for a system76 computer is not apples-to-apples to the $2400 MBP, and that the high-dpi screen, along with the software care that has gone into making it usable and functional across a wide variety of applications and actual "apparent" resolutions is quite valuable.
I agree - most of these comparisons miss the fact that the Retina display is sooo much better for the vast majority of things that most Linux users do with computers. Text-mode consoles and development are infinitely easier with high-dpi text; I've literally more than doubled the amount of time I can use a computer in a day without developing a headache by using higher-quality displays, and Linux support for these is a crapshoot at best. They aren't even available from system76, and if you find a vendor that does have them on Linux-compatible hardware, you're setting yourself up for dealing with difficult refresh rates, visual glitches, and apps that don't scale accurately.
I agree that these new Macs are overpriced for what you get, but to compare with anything that doesn't have a 200+ dpi display is _not_ a fair comparison.
>This is a chip to compete on the Transmeta level, if you > will. The message is "If you want better battery life and > acceptable performance, buy this."
No, I don't think Asimov wanted robots to respect a SUPERIOR being, but to respect an EQUIVALENT being (i.e., humanity).
And no, my real disagreement has nothing to do with right and wrong being determined by a "superior being". I think right & wrong are completely independent of some sort of "superior being". They are a fundamental consequence of respect between conscious entities.
Therefore, I reject both the idea that: a. Morality (right & wrong) is a concept forced upon us by a being strong enough to punish is if we don't agree, and b. that morality is self-determined.
Right and wrong are IN THE WORLD; it is part of being concious that one becomes aware of the concept.
And, as you said, right & wrong can lead to the concept of punishment...not the other way around. However, the concept of punishment is not a prerequisite for right & wrong to exist, either in the world, for a human, or for an AI.
Why does a sense of morality have to be based on an afterlife and a fear of punishment? My sense of morality is based on an acknowledgement of my own conciousness and intelligence, and a respect for the same in others.
It sounds to me like this is what they were trying to teach Cyc...to have respect for the phenomena of conciousness; isn't this the source of morality? This same concept is what CREATED the myth of an afterlife and a G-d, not the other way around.
...gzip? sure it's not state of the art, but everything supports it, and it's a decent compressor....
So bandwidth's a problem? Post it to slashdot!
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Hey guys, here's an idea: let's take a website that's shutting down because it can't afford bandwidth, and post a link to it on the frontpage of slashdot!!! That will show them what REAL BANDWIDTH USAGE COSTS!!!! MWA HA HA!!!!!!!
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ya know, restricting bandwidth is great and all, but if my school took it so far as to actually track WHAT SPECIFIC FILES i was using my bandwidth on, I would be pretty pissed...whether i'm doing things that others find morally objectionable or not, said others have no right to invade my privacy to check.
Of course, playing as "badly as they can" implies the same knowledge of the game as playing well, if you want to do better than random chance.
To play badly is every much as difficult an AI problem as playing well...
I wonder sort of meta-effects posting these results will have....it seems to me that by posting "Delta Airlines" as a popular search term, more people will search for Delta Airlines to find out why it was popular (hey, some people don't ever watch the news, ya know....)
similarly, being posted as a "top 10 declining link" will almost certainly end that trend....i wonder how much abercrombie and fitch paid to be listed there?
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what's so great about spare livers/hearts etc? Clones are every bit as human as you are, what if you were the one who lived your entire goddamn life in a vat, so that one day someone can walk up to you, kill you, and rip your liver out to give to the "human" you were "cloned" from?
huh? OOP = encapsulated data. How do you encapsulate date? with accessor/mutator functions (at the most basic level, at least). How does a struct ENCAPSULATE data? It doesn't. How does a struct support inheritance? It can't. How does a struct support polymorphism? Again, it doesn't. I don't think it's very funny; struct's break the OOP model. The whole POINT of OOP is code reusability and stability by data abstraction and encapsulation. Structs simply don't accomplish this. To call EvlG a "Java programmer who never took the time to learn C++" is what I find amusing, course you don't know him, so I guess your mistake is forgivable. A c++ struct is certainly NOT a class, by any stretch of the imagination. P
Of course overclocking is counter-culture, in the "yeah, screw the MAN!" sense.
In recent years, especially, as companies such as Intel have taken high-yield chips (remember the Pentium-233 MMX?) and sold the EXACT same chip at different speeds (and different prices) to maximize their shipping/production efficiency. With these developments, overclocking has moved away from the "squeeze every last ounce of performance out of your hardware" philosophy to the "gee, let's get what we paid for" philosophy. Overclocking is no longer the exclusive realm of geeks demanding that last.01% performance boost, but is now people just trying to get the most bang for your buck. You take a 200 Mhz chip, and run it at 233. By doing this, you're not pushing the hardware beyond its design capabilities, you're just being smart.
From looking at the WordPerfect Office 2000 reviews, WINE doesn't appear to be quite usable yet. Even with all the yacking over in that thread about "it's not Wine, it's WINE-LIB", the program still crashes and exhibits some odd and very un-Unixy behavior. So, even WineLib has its flaws.
The way that I see using WINE is similar to the way that I view using Delphi or C++ Builder to produce apps. They are all great tools for prototyping, and doing proof of concept type work. Wine is especially great for taking a native-Windows app and starting an open-source effort to port it to Windows. But I find this trend of commercial vendors doing a simple recompile with WineLib and calling it a Linux program disturbing, to say the least.
Linux is a platform for stability and reliability, and while Wine and Winelib are great to use to help in the porting process, no one should be releasing what should be polished commercial code using these tools, at this point.
Corel's decision to write what is basically Windows code and run it on Linux under Wine strikes me as odd. Considering that Corel already has a native-Unix base product (in WordPerfect 8), why not extend that to be WP Office 2000, native under Linux? Corel has already bet the farm on linux anyway, so this would strike me as a sensible choice. If you still wanted to have your app run on Windows to compete against MS, why not just run your Linux app (recompiled, but still using X) locally through a Windows X-server such as Exceed or MI/X?
This way, you leverage your position in the linux marketplace, giving the technical users what they want, while still having a product to ship to the Windows market, where people are less likely to be aware of whether they're running an emulated app or not, as long as it works. Not only that, but products such as Exceed are much more stable and useful for this kind of development than using Wine to run Windows apps on Linux.
probably has alot to do with the fact that MS stock took a hit BECAUSE paul allen sold off half a billion or so. that's the way these suit-types work; they don't get technology, or software, or software companies, just big guys selling their stock.
Microsoft is more than a software company, it's a content provider (MSN), and with the coming of the X-box, is moving quickly to become a hardware provider, as well.
Katz is correct, Microsoft has not pioneered the forefronts of technological innovation. As a matter of fact, though, Microsoft has never pioneered anything. The danger in Microsoft is their abilitiy to sell products, inferior or breakthrough, to consumers, thereby dominating consumer thought, and taking away choice.
No, as a matter of fact I do listen. you raise a good point; my post was merely pointing out the flaws in the argument that I was replying to, not a statement of my personal beliefs.
I do find it interesting, though, that your post was more about your assessment of my character than of my statements.
A note to all: if you have something to say about what was said, say it! If you have something to say about who said it, keep your mouth shut!
Hmmm....that's nice....there is no God of any kind, so evidently, according to you, its much more logical that humanity, the earth, and the universe are one big cosmic accident that was just numerically bound to happen sometime given the sheer number of billions of years the primordial soup was just laying around. Which, by the way, is itself a cosmic accident.
I think i'll just stick to believing in a boogeyman, the probabilities of that are infinitely higher than the series of accidents that had to take place for me to be alive and conscious and here today. Plus, I refuse to think of my life as an accident; it's such a futile point of view.
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Ummm...no, actually I didn't forget that.
Question: how old are you? :). I suspect there are more people with my issues than you give me credit for, although my point continues to be: the $2k for a system76 computer is not apples-to-apples to the $2400 MBP, and that the high-dpi screen, along with the software care that has gone into making it usable and functional across a wide variety of applications and actual "apparent" resolutions is quite valuable.
I agree - most of these comparisons miss the fact that the Retina display is sooo much better for the vast majority of things that most Linux users do with computers. Text-mode consoles and development are infinitely easier with high-dpi text; I've literally more than doubled the amount of time I can use a computer in a day without developing a headache by using higher-quality displays, and Linux support for these is a crapshoot at best. They aren't even available from system76, and if you find a vendor that does have them on Linux-compatible hardware, you're setting yourself up for dealing with difficult refresh rates, visual glitches, and apps that don't scale accurately.
I agree that these new Macs are overpriced for what you get, but to compare with anything that doesn't have a 200+ dpi display is _not_ a fair comparison.
>This is a chip to compete on the Transmeta level, if you
> will. The message is "If you want better battery life and
> acceptable performance, buy this."
Or, buy a Mac!
No, I don't think Asimov wanted robots to respect a SUPERIOR being, but to respect an EQUIVALENT being (i.e., humanity).
And no, my real disagreement has nothing to do with right and wrong being determined by a "superior being". I think right & wrong are completely independent of some sort of "superior being". They are a fundamental consequence of respect between conscious entities.
Therefore, I reject both the idea that: a. Morality (right & wrong) is a concept forced upon us by a being strong enough to punish is if we don't agree, and b. that morality is self-determined.
Right and wrong are IN THE WORLD; it is part of being concious that one becomes aware of the concept.
And, as you said, right & wrong can lead to the concept of punishment...not the other way around. However, the concept of punishment is not a prerequisite for right & wrong to exist, either in the world, for a human, or for an AI.
Why does a sense of morality have to be based on an afterlife and a fear of punishment? My sense of morality is based on an acknowledgement of my own conciousness and intelligence, and a respect for the same in others.
It sounds to me like this is what they were trying to teach Cyc...to have respect for the phenomena of conciousness; isn't this the source of morality? This same concept is what CREATED the myth of an afterlife and a G-d, not the other way around.
No it's not....pro-creating and programmer in the same sentence...what more humor could you possibly need?
...gzip? sure it's not state of the art, but everything supports it, and it's a decent compressor....
Hey guys, here's an idea: let's take a website that's shutting down because it can't afford bandwidth, and post a link to it on the frontpage of slashdot!!! That will show them what REAL BANDWIDTH USAGE COSTS!!!! MWA HA HA!!!!!!!
ya know, restricting bandwidth is great and all, but if my school took it so far as to actually track WHAT SPECIFIC FILES i was using my bandwidth on, I would be pretty pissed...whether i'm doing things that others find morally objectionable or not, said others have no right to invade my privacy to check.
Of course, playing as "badly as they can" implies the same knowledge of the game as playing well, if you want to do better than random chance. To play badly is every much as difficult an AI problem as playing well...
I wonder sort of meta-effects posting these results will have....it seems to me that by posting "Delta Airlines" as a popular search term, more people will search for Delta Airlines to find out why it was popular (hey, some people don't ever watch the news, ya know....)
similarly, being posted as a "top 10 declining link" will almost certainly end that trend....i wonder how much abercrombie and fitch paid to be listed there?
what's so great about spare livers/hearts etc? Clones are every bit as human as you are, what if you were the one who lived your entire goddamn life in a vat, so that one day someone can walk up to you, kill you, and rip your liver out to give to the "human" you were "cloned" from?
bullshit. Virtual function tables, anyone?
huh? OOP = encapsulated data. How do you encapsulate date? with accessor/mutator functions (at the most basic level, at least). How does a struct ENCAPSULATE data? It doesn't. How does a struct support inheritance? It can't. How does a struct support polymorphism? Again, it doesn't. I don't think it's very funny; struct's break the OOP model. The whole POINT of OOP is code reusability and stability by data abstraction and encapsulation. Structs simply don't accomplish this. To call EvlG a "Java programmer who never took the time to learn C++" is what I find amusing, course you don't know him, so I guess your mistake is forgivable. A c++ struct is certainly NOT a class, by any stretch of the imagination. P
Evidently the namespace for online identities is becoming crowded as well, as we now have entrants such as "Anal Surprise"
Of course overclocking is counter-culture, in the "yeah, screw the MAN!" sense.
.01% performance boost, but is now people just trying to get the most bang for your buck. You take a 200 Mhz chip, and run it at 233. By doing this, you're not pushing the hardware beyond its design capabilities, you're just being smart.
In recent years, especially, as companies such as Intel have taken high-yield chips (remember the Pentium-233 MMX?) and sold the EXACT same chip at different speeds (and different prices) to maximize their shipping/production efficiency. With these developments, overclocking has moved away from the "squeeze every last ounce of performance out of your hardware" philosophy to the "gee, let's get what we paid for" philosophy.
Overclocking is no longer the exclusive realm of geeks demanding that last
From looking at the WordPerfect Office 2000 reviews, WINE doesn't appear to be quite usable yet. Even with all the yacking over in that thread about "it's not Wine, it's WINE-LIB", the program still crashes and exhibits some odd and very un-Unixy behavior. So, even WineLib has its flaws.
The way that I see using WINE is similar to the way that I view using Delphi or C++ Builder to produce apps. They are all great tools for prototyping, and doing proof of concept type work. Wine is especially great for taking a native-Windows app and starting an open-source effort to port it to Windows. But I find this trend of commercial vendors doing a simple recompile with WineLib and calling it a Linux program disturbing, to say the least.
Linux is a platform for stability and reliability, and while Wine and Winelib are great to use to help in the porting process, no one should be releasing what should be polished commercial code using these tools, at this point.
Corel's decision to write what is basically Windows code and run it on Linux under Wine strikes me as odd. Considering that Corel already has a native-Unix base product (in WordPerfect 8), why not extend that to be WP Office 2000, native under Linux? Corel has already bet the farm on linux anyway, so this would strike me as a sensible choice. If you still wanted to have your app run on Windows to compete against MS, why not just run your Linux app (recompiled, but still using X) locally through a Windows X-server such as Exceed or MI/X?
This way, you leverage your position in the linux marketplace, giving the technical users what they want, while still having a product to ship to the Windows market, where people are less likely to be aware of whether they're running an emulated app or not, as long as it works. Not only that, but products such as Exceed are much more stable and useful for this kind of development than using Wine to run Windows apps on Linux.
Makes no sense to me
probably has alot to do with the fact that MS stock took a hit BECAUSE paul allen sold off half a billion or so. that's the way these suit-types work; they don't get technology, or software, or software companies, just big guys selling their stock.
and the first thing said stock market book will tell you is to not listen to people running their mouths about stocks on public bulletin boards
Microsoft is more than a software company, it's a content provider (MSN), and with the coming of the X-box, is moving quickly to become a hardware provider, as well.
Katz is correct, Microsoft has not pioneered the forefronts of technological innovation. As a matter of fact, though, Microsoft has never pioneered anything. The danger in Microsoft is their abilitiy to sell products, inferior or breakthrough, to consumers, thereby dominating consumer thought, and taking away choice.
No, as a matter of fact I do listen. you raise a good point; my post was merely pointing out the flaws in the argument that I was replying to, not a statement of my personal beliefs.
I do find it interesting, though, that your post was more about your assessment of my character than of my statements.
A note to all: if you have something to say about what was said, say it! If you have something to say about who said it, keep your mouth shut!
Hmmm....that's nice....there is no God of any kind, so evidently, according to you, its much more logical that humanity, the earth, and the universe are one big cosmic accident that was just numerically bound to happen sometime given the sheer number of billions of years the primordial soup was just laying around. Which, by the way, is itself a cosmic accident.
I think i'll just stick to believing in a boogeyman, the probabilities of that are infinitely higher than the series of accidents that had to take place for me to be alive and conscious and here today. Plus, I refuse to think of my life as an accident; it's such a futile point of view.