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Google Reveals Popular Search Patterns

danec writes "Google has finally put up a page showing off its popular searches. Called the Google Zeitgeist (meaning: the general intellectual, moral, and cultural climate of an era) it will be updated monthly, weekly or even daily as circumstances warrant." This is actually a lot more then just a "Top 10 List" and I hope they update it frequently. I especially like how they compare searches for related words (Aimster/Napster in this edition). It would be fun to do the same for politicians during elections, or movies competing for the same blockbuster release date. You can do fascinating stuff with the amount of data Google has.

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  1. Re:Selbstverstandlich.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dutch is not a language, it's a throat disease.

    And they need pot to ease the pain? ;-)

  2. Re:www.wordtracker.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Not really -- when I worked at Encyclopaedia Britannica the top search word was always sex and the second was almost always yahoo.com. After that 3 or 4 or so of the top 10 every week were always domain names.

  3. Re:Not Flamebait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It would be neither. It would instead be worrying because the database of searches would be so easy to crack into.

  4. Re:Also see the Zeitgeist Archive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    whore

  5. Re:Striking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I wonder what people want to see about Jenna Bush

    They want to see her bush.

  6. Re:Shakespeare by Indomitus · · Score: 1

    How is a misspelling ironic?

  7. Inventor of the helicopter... by Danse · · Score: 1

    I always thought Sikorsky invented the helicopter. But I just did a Google search and found this page (number 10 on the list) that says that William Purvis and Charles Wilson invented the helicopter in 1909. Is that just bunk or is there some dispute as to who actually invented the helicopter?

    Yes, this is off-topic, which is why I didn't use the +1. Mod me down if you wish. I'm just curious about this.

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    1. Re:Inventor of the helicopter... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Technically, you could give Leonardo Da Vinci credit for the helicopter, as it appears in one of those books of his that Bill Gates bought. However, Sikorsky built his first helicopter around 1909 as well, according to this site. Granted, it's on the Sikorsky domain, but it still lends some credibility to the answer.

      FWIW, I don't think the question was just "Who invented the helicopter?", but rather something like "Who started mass-producing the modern helicopter in year xxxx?" I wonder if there's a Millionaire question archive somewhere...

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  8. Shakespear by James+Youngman · · Score: 1

    ...isn't really mis-spelled.

    At the time the spelling of the English language was not regulated in any way, and the spelling of common words often varied. Shakespeare himself used to spell his own name in several different ways, "Shakspear" also being used. So this spelling is not, strictly, incorrect.

  9. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Frederic54 · · Score: 1

    is it doppelganger or doppleganger? is it a monster I met in AD&D sometimes?
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  10. News page by Anarchofascist · · Score: 1

    Now this is one page I'm going to add to my daily office-surfing schedule. Thanks Google!

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  11. Re:Angst by MenTaLguY · · Score: 1

    It's more of the same sort of US-directed xenocentrism that spawns stuff like Engrish.

    It's kind of sad (I happen to LIKE having other cultures around, dammit :/), but I suppose it at least has some entertainment value.

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  12. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1

    Yea, damn these Germans, they have a different word for everything. No wonder nobody can understand them!

  13. Whatever happened to .. by Monoman · · Score: 1

    The Lycos java applet that would marquee-scroll current queries and let you click on them to see the results. This was about 4 years ago.

    I loved watching those searches go by:
    "Pamela and Anderson and Tommy and Lee and video"

    I think it was the only java applet that didn't render my machine useless as it loaded.

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  14. If you need to be told what Zeitgeist means, you'r by edw · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is run by a drooling imbecile that doesn't know the difference between "then" and "than"; do you really want to get definitions of words here?

    There are plenty of good, free reference sites out there that anyone can use to unlock the secrets of there/their/they're, affect/effect, that/which, and many other mysteries that have baffled the illiterate since the beginning of time. That very few people who read Slashdot use such resources indicates to me that the Internet has changed nothing, and humanity is still in need of extermination.

  15. Our beloved edonkey by CodeMonky · · Score: 1

    It looks like our beloved edonkey is on the list for most declining search. Everyone must go search for edonkey, it must top the list.

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  16. French doesn't respect very well the law :-) by renoX · · Score: 1

    This "ministre de la culture" isn't anymore at the governement and yes he made a law to protect the French.

    But frankly French couldn't care less about this kind of stupid stuff so this law isn't very enforced.
    Except for the radios where there is a quota of French songs but here there are money interests..

  17. Don't be so harsh. by renoX · · Score: 1

    As a French I do not mind at all, hearing french spoken by foreigners.

    "Au contraire", usually I find their accent quite charming in fact..

  18. Re:The net has matured, finally. by tregoweth · · Score: 1

    Adult stuff is only 11% ? I thought that it would be greater than 50%.

    If they start including stuff from their image search, I imagine the percentage will go up.

    -j

  19. Re:Google Keywords? by ethereal · · Score: 1

    Those weren't keywords; it was just that a huge number of people had "evil empire" linked to Microsoft, and Google picked up on that.

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  20. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Jethro73 · · Score: 1

    I am thinking it is actually called "Loft Story"... Loft Story Homepage.

    It seems that it is not uncommon to have English-named programs in foriegn countries. For some reason, it doesn't work the other way quite as well, though. I can't think of any foreign-titled shows in the U.S.

    Jethro

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  21. Mispellet by tsa · · Score: 1

    I really like the `misspelled' section.

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    1. Re:Mispellet by d_lesage · · Score: 1

      How long before "Zeitgeist" shows up in that section?

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  22. Re:Shakespear in most mispelt list by portnoy · · Score: 1
    On the other hand, "Erasmus is right" has 4 hits, while "Erasmus is wrong" has only 1 hit. So I'm still right 80% of the time.
    Now try comparing "Darwin is right" and "Darwin is wrong" and see whether your percentages are still that one-sided. :-)
  23. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Nightpaw · · Score: 1

    I know that whenever I want to suggest to my friend Chad that we hop in our tanks tomorrow morning and roll over Poland, I just say, "Chad, Poland, ja?"

  24. Re:Shakespear in most mispelt list by cpeterso · · Score: 1


    Maybe users are searching for "Shakespear" because they want to widen their search to include "Shakespear" and "Shakespeare". Shakespear is the greatest common denominator of the two words.

  25. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Moofie · · Score: 1

    So you're annoyed that the world doesn't conform to your expectations? Guess what...I've got news for you.

    It won't. Ever.

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  26. Re:OLD OLD OLD... by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    This was posted on the first computer I worked with.

    An IBM 1130.

    With card reader.

    And 8K of CORE memory.

    In 1978.

    And is probably WAY older than that. From the times when computers DID have lots of blinking lights.

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  27. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    The thing about Japanese is the almost uncontrolled borrowing and use of foreign words where a native equivalent could have easily been used or created. Chinese does this to a great extent in written discourse but conversation, especially among Chinese outside of China/Taiwan/Singapore will contain borrowed words or an English word in the middle of a sentence, for example "computer" instead of "diHn louh" (Cantonese)

    In Japanese it would always be "conpyutaa".

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  28. Re:It's "sadism" by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    Absolutely correct! Schadenfreude is what drives "America's Funniest Home Videos" and "Fear Factor" to the top of the Neilsen ratings.

    Sounds MUCH better than "we like watching people get hurt".

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  29. Not only German! by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    Any language will have single words that express concepts that are hard to convey in other languages or which capture the essence better. There may, of course, be something lost in the translation.

    However, if you are bi or multi-lingual I have no doubt you find yourself switching momentarily to the other language to express something better. I do this regularly with Japanese. (so many fun homonyms!!)

    This is not to be confused with using foreign words just to appear cool. ("That je ne sais quoi")

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  30. Meta-effects by bprotas · · Score: 1

    I wonder sort of meta-effects posting these results will have....it seems to me that by posting "Delta Airlines" as a popular search term, more people will search for Delta Airlines to find out why it was popular (hey, some people don't ever watch the news, ya know....)

    similarly, being posted as a "top 10 declining link" will almost certainly end that trend....i wonder how much abercrombie and fitch paid to be listed there?

  31. Re:The net has mature, finally. by CDanek · · Score: 1

    Even more literally, 'time ghost.' But german is a language of compound words which often mean more than the sum of their parts. It's loosely interpreted here as used in colloquial terms.

  32. my friend by ebbv · · Score: 1


    you have one seriously fucked up definition of 'cute'...

    holy jeebus,..FLEE from the beast of bregnor.
    ...dave

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  33. Re:Shakespear in most mispelt list by lostguy · · Score: 1

    What, they spelled it "Francis Bacon"?

  34. Feedback by Betelgeuse · · Score: 1

    This is actually very interesting. The question is if there will be feedback between this page and the main google page. I mean, will the top 10 declining queries be amung the top 10 gaining queries the next week? It seems that once people see this page, it will occur to them to do the searches on the page. It happened to me, anyway. So, in a way, this time is the only real, true, unpolluted sample.

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  35. Re:Foreign names in the US by bgeiger · · Score: 1

    IIRC, it was originally "The Madness of George III". No "King". And it was III... Was there a George IV?

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  36. real-time version from Metacrawler... by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    Check out www.metaspy.com

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    1. Re:real-time version from Metacrawler... by madaz · · Score: 1

      And this:

      Excite Search Voyeur

      Apparently, Excite "checks these queries for objectionable material before displaying them." It seems content filtering has some way to go :)

  37. Re:Who? What? Huh? by lammi · · Score: 1
    It actually is called Loft Story. I have been in Paris numerous times this year working on a project and that was one of the things on TV *all* the time.

    Of course, that was the only thing about it in English, all the contestants spoke French. (Which really cut into my ability to know what was going on with my virtually non-existant French skills.)

  38. Re:It would be nice by Coward,+Anonymous · · Score: 1

    Some search engines, like excite do track what people click on, though I don't know if they make this information public. It certainly makes sense to record this info so that sites that get clicked on a lot for a particular search term can be moved up and those that are clicked on less often can be moved down.

  39. Google Love.. by jimmyCarter · · Score: 1

    I'm just as big of fan of Google as the next geek, but.. Lycos has been doing this for a while..

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  40. Re:It would be nice by vrt3 · · Score: 1
    Then you must be using another version of Google than I do. When I search for Slashdot, this is the link I get:

    slashdot.org

    without any redirection whatsoever.

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  41. Re:Selbstverstandlich.. by vrt3 · · Score: 1
    Unfortunately there aren't many internationally famous words originating from my langauge (= Dutch)

    There are more of these than you seem to think, especially in the marine terminology. Unfortunately, I can't think of any right now.

    An example in an unrelated area is "mannequin", which is derived from old Dutch "mannekijn" ("manneke", "mannetje", little man).

    I'm sure there are others, I just can't think of them now.

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  42. Re:mo' money - no dedication by dzurn · · Score: 1

    Thanks. I just posted this info on my web site. Can't wait for the hits to roll on in!

    Jack Lemmon was recently seen on Delta Airlines next to Barbara Schett flying to the Tour de France (the Wimbledon of Amtrack), reportedly trying to avoid Paula Poundstone's fast and furious drafting of the lyrcis of Loana's Shakespear.

  43. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by MauriceVineyard · · Score: 1

    Notice how we define the word "Zeitgeist" in English as "the general intellectual, moral, and cultural climate of an era." So instead of saying the latter phrase, we can just steal a single word from Germany. If we could define the word "Zeitgeist" as "well, it means the same as 'flgrogbrsa' in English, then we'd have no reason to use the German word. I guess we could go to the trouble of making up our own in English, but people in this country have problems as it is with the words we've got.

    Or you could just use the word "Trends" like most people do with their marketing information.

  44. Cartoon Dolls vs. Anime by Corrado · · Score: 1

    According to the archived data for May 2001, it looks like Anime is not as heavily searched as Cartoon Dolls. I wonder which one "The Powerpuff Girls" would be listed under? :)

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    1. Re:Cartoon Dolls vs. Anime by Have+Blue · · Score: 2

      Actually they come from the equally talented and equally non-Japanese mind of Craig McCraken. But I wouldn't be surprised if they used a Japanese/Asian production studio, like many other modern cartoons.

    2. Re:Cartoon Dolls vs. Anime by cryptochrome · · Score: 2

      While the most important bits are handled here in the states, I believe the animation itself is subcontracted to a korean production company.

      cryptochrome

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  45. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Corrado · · Score: 1
    You can see a picture of the winner here. She's pretty cute...

    Yes, she is! And her inclusion increases to the pr0n factor. We all know Google exists to enhance the pr0n factor. I wonder if she would show up on Google Image search. Nope.

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  46. cross cultural "snapshot" by leucadiadude · · Score: 1

    Seems like an intesting way to get an "internet culture" snapshot about what it finds interesting at the moment. I particularily found the graphs of searches over time interesting. Following a trendy search as it waxed and waned.....interesting

    1. Re:cross cultural "snapshot" by leucadiadude · · Score: 1

      Did I just say interesting four times? Sheesh, I must be tired. Time for sleep.

  47. Re:Selbstverstandlich.. by crashdavis · · Score: 1

    What about dike (not dyke) and sluice and dam?

    I actually think English is closer to Dutch than to German. Much more similar grammar (with some French grammar thrown in) and word order similar to Olde Englishe. A few transliterations like "y" for "ij" in the middle of words (which looks almost identical when written in cursive) and you end up with something a lot like English.

    Crash

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  48. Re:It's "sadism" by Stonehand · · Score: 1

    Different connotation. Schadenfreude denotes the amusement when observing somebody's minor misfortune; it's a petty emotion, rather than mean-spirited spite or cruelty.

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  49. Re:Selbstverstandlich.. by lovebyte · · Score: 1

    I think boulevard comes from Dutch, although it has been "frenchified". I think the main reason that there are not many Dutch words in english is that only Dutch people could pronounce them. Just think van Gogh!
    Having lived in the Netherlands for a few years, this thread reminds me of what a Dutch colleague used to say: Dutch is not a language, it's a throat disease.

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  50. Re:Adult searches rank so low? by jeanlo · · Score: 1

    They don't show absolute number but declining and gaining. So may be that's why.

  51. Re:Not Flamebait by kimihia · · Score: 1

    No way in heck is the handful of searches I performed yesterday going to be linked to me. What, with millions of queries performed daily?

  52. Why not list top 10 searches of all time? by Ryu2 · · Score: 1

    A list of the 10 top searches, not just declining/rising ones (filtered for adult content, if need be) is needed on their page. I think that might be quite interesting, even if it doesn't change much.

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  53. Re:Selbstverstandlich.. by Dr.+Merkw�rdigliebe · · Score: 1

    Jawohl ;)

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  54. Re:Selbstverstandlich.. by Dr.+Merkw�rdigliebe · · Score: 1

    Technically speaking, "apartheid" is an Afrikaans word, not Dutch. Sure, Afrikaans is derived from Dutch, but it is a separate language.

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  55. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Dr.+Merkw�rdigliebe · · Score: 1

    Another popular one (at least until recently) would be "Fahrvergnügen"

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  56. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by jdcook · · Score: 1

    "Now, French on the other hand, is a different story. People in the US use French all the time when there are perfectly acceptable English subtitutes: lèse-majesté (detraction from dignity), par excellence (being the best kind), nouveau riche (new rich), etc. So in that case, we have no excuse. And of course, when people in the US say these French words, they pronounce them perfectly, much to the glee of French people everywhere." French has a certain, oh, I don't know what, je ne sais quoi? (Thanks Mr. Martin! I still remember when you were funny!)

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  57. ATTENTION by sideshow · · Score: 1
    Funny I just happened to read this on jargon.org yesterday. Here's what the german's use:

    ATTENTION

    This room is fullfilled mit special electronische equippment. Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is allowed for die experts only! So all the "lefthanders" stay away and do not disturben the brainstorming von here working intelligencies. Otherwise you will be out thrown and kicked anderswhere! Also: please keep still and only watchen astaunished the blinkenlights.

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  58. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by cybercuzco · · Score: 1

    Jahwol

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  59. Re:Shakespear in most mispelt list by ASM · · Score: 1

    No he didn't, those were merely aliases he used to keep the NSA on their toes...

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  60. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by whovian · · Score: 1

    How about the English that's adopted into German?

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  61. nice, but.. by Sarin · · Score: 1

    They should make a searchengine based on this information where you can make you own graphs with your own parameters.

  62. buzz.yahoo.com by mrpull · · Score: 1

    Yahoo has been doing something (fairly) similar for several weeks. Check out buzz.yahoo.com. They break it down into catagories that are more "pop-centric" like TV, Music, Sports, Movies, and Actors, but it is still interesting. It also helps me keep up on all of the "cool stuff" (sarcasm) that I'm missing in the world.

    mr
  63. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by jejones · · Score: 1
    Well...there are several reasons. Obviously, the easy thing to do is borrow German words for German things--if you wanted to come up with an "English" word to replace, say, Sauerbraten, what could you do other than recite the definition?

    The other reason has to do with where the action is culturally. Germany was the place to be for chemists in the 19th century--vide Beilstein, the reference for organic chemists--and was a major place for philosophy as well. A bunch of those borrowings from German are philosophical terms, e.g. Zeitgeist, Weltanschauung. Somehow "spirit of the time" and "world view" just don't have the same ring to them (and the first one is longer than the German word, too--remember Zipf's Law?).

  64. There's hope for society, yet... by Yekrats · · Score: 1

    Arts, 22%
    Adult, 11%

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    1. Re:There's hope for society, yet... by 3am · · Score: 1

      i doubt that was run by mayor giuliani...

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  65. Re:Not Flamebait by ccf · · Score: 1

    This is a actually a good question and it's the first thing I thought of before I checked out the page. Of course it's a display of aggregate data, so there is very little exposure of individuals' private searches, but still, how far does that argument go? Is it only because google has tens of thousands of users (more?) per day that it is ok for them to aggregate their data? What if it were a little search engine that only had 5 users per day, and they did the same thing? Then the top 5 misspelled searches would reveal how bad a speller I am. Hmm.

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  66. Re:Not Flamebait by ccf · · Score: 1

    I said users, not hits. So it is hundreds of thousands maybe no?

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  67. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by vinyl1 · · Score: 1

    This is academic-speak, pretty common among educated people. It entered the English language in the 30s or 40s--all the professorial immigrants fleeing Hitler.

    Actually, it sounds kind of archaic nowadays.

  68. Re:Since Google is a Search Engine by rcharbon · · Score: 1

    If you put links in the results chart, that will skew future results. The easy access to the queries will cause people to run them who otherwise wouldn't.

  69. Re:Since Google is a Search Engine by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

    I'd say I've got a 60 percent success rate.

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  70. Re:All that data by donglekey · · Score: 1

    There is a difference, so what if google does anonymous data mining? They have the information there, and its useful. They aren't going to be invading your house or spamming you or anything. If you are watching TV, do you want to see advertisements for new Athalon motherboards, or for a Martha Stewart re-run marathon. Targeted advertising is not a bad thing, it just can be abused, although it can't be much worse than straight out spam and telemarketing is now. Kotex doesn't show advertisements durinig 'The Man Show' information like this just helps companies get a little more oriented to what people want.

  71. It's "sadism" by yerricde · · Score: 1

    favorite German word that succinctly sums up an abstract concept that does not have an English/French/etc counterpart is "Schadenfreude"

    We English and French speakers just call it sadism (or some spelling variant thereof).

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  72. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by balthan · · Score: 1

    It's not about abusing the German language. English has always been a bastard language, it steals from everybody. It's easier to use one or two foreign words to sum up an idea rather than a handful of english words. Deja vu is a good example.

  73. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by aozilla · · Score: 1

    Or you could just use the word "Trends" like most people do with their marketing information.

    And keep it proprietary, like most people do with their marketing information.

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  74. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by PatSmarty · · Score: 1

    Well, it's actually "Doppelgänger", but you can write it as "Doppelgaenger" if you don't have a key for the A-Umlaut (A with 2 dots on top of it). Doppelganger is just plain wrong...

  75. Re:Who? What? Huh? by cbaisse · · Score: 1
    And her first name is... loana.

    Where the heck is 'Britney Spears Nude' ???

  76. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Andrewkov · · Score: 1
    You're thinking of Quebec, not France. ;-)

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  77. Re:Obvious (o)mission... by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1

    The great think about a mission like this is you'll get that search listed twice by having every do it in one month, because first it will be a Gaining Query and then it will be a Declining Query.

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  78. Swedish.. by [JP] · · Score: 1

    How about the word "skadeglädje" in swedish? Exactly the same meaning as the german word.

  79. Why there's no porn? by Jasonv · · Score: 1

    The page doesn't show "Most searched for terms.." only the ones that are on the rise or decline. So, maybe 10 million people searched for 'big titties' but if that's the same number of people as last month then they won't appear on the list... At a wild guess I'd say they don't have the top 10 searched for items because that sort of information you can sell... ?

  80. Reason for low adult % by ongdesign · · Score: 1

    I would assume the real reason porn queries are so low is that they're getting their category info from the Open Directory project; and presumably adult sites are underrepresented in mainstream directories.

  81. Re:Loft Story ! by Mwongozi · · Score: 1
    But I still can't figure out why Big Brother has been beaten in Google's audience.

    Probably because Big Brother 2 is currently mid-run in the UK, and is astoundingly popular.

  82. Re:Loft Story ! by gnugnugnu · · Score: 1
    But I still can't figure out why Big Brother has been beaten in Google's audience.

    you dont search for stuff you have not lost. the website for big brother is very clearly advertised on the show as channel4.com/bigbrother. Even if you dont know it, it's pretty easy to guess the right address, any one who watches it will know the channel its on, the channel name is easy to remember, its a dot com, they also have the .co.uk.
    Maybe more French people than Brits know how great Google is, its not as if Google ever did any advertising.
    it is the second run of the show, i already have it bookmarked. Ama is definately going to get kicked out tonight. Its great, Paul keeps getting nominated and the public wont vote him out

    The bookies say the gay irish one is going to win,
    ...wait wasn't that the last series???

    odds 5/2 on

  83. Re:All that data by Thellan · · Score: 1

    Hey look at that, you got my point exactly and I dont think you even realized it. Google, despite the fact that they run Linux (aparently this means they are going to do the "Right Thing") is a company that has the primary purpose of making money. And a very easy way to make money is to sell data about your users. And if they go through with their IPO that was mentioned last week then there will be even more pressure to make money as opposed to doing the "Right Thing". I am not saying that they will sell all of that data but they are a business so it is not very smart to blindly trust them to do the right thing.

    If I recall correctly a lot of people saw the RealPlayer as a way to stop Microsoft in the web video area and supported them. And now look at the stories that come out about once a quarter about the Real Player sending back usage and tracking information without notifying the user.

    Rich

  84. All that data by Thellan · · Score: 1

    I find it amazing that you have no problem with all the data that Google has but if it was Microsoft, Intel, or DoubleClick you would be screaming about how our privacy is at stake, and we are going to be abused by these companies.

    You should have a cautious attitude toward any company that collects massive amounts of data, not just the one's which you have a knee-jerk reaction to dislike because of their past actions.

    Rich

    1. Re:All that data by PureFiction · · Score: 2

      Google does not traffic specific identifying information. They only collect query information to drive their statistics.

      This is completely different from M$ and .Net which basically OWNS your entire online identity, or Intel with UNIQUE identifying serial numbers on CPU's.

      It is not the amount of data that we should be concerned about, but rather the type of data and its intended use.

    2. Re:All that data by tmark · · Score: 2

      Could it be a coincidence that Google runs Linux ? Moreover, you have to wonder how Slashdot itself is mining their own database. You know they are almost certainly selling advertising space based on the total number of 'unique visitors', or impressions, or whatever aggregate statistic they choose to use. What other kinds of statistics would be valuable to advertisers ? Would Slashdot sell stats on the number of subpages users followed for different types of stories (Linux, Windows, etc.) ? Would they charge advertisers more or less to show ads to high-karma users ? If they're smart businessmen maybe they would, but if they are consistent maybe they wouldn't.

  85. Re:Who? What? Huh? by jaydub99 · · Score: 1

    Cute? I guess she's ok from the neck down. What's with that mouth though?!?

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  86. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by tomknight · · Score: 1

    Thank God isn't allowed in Slashdot...

    Tom.

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  87. DOH DOH DOH.... by tomknight · · Score: 1
    And there I was, thinking that usin the "Plain Old Text" format would let be entered, without using the < and > business....

    Preview is your friemd!

    Tom.

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  88. Re:Censorship... by sulli · · Score: 1

    well, I thought it was funny. no mod points, but a laugh, anyway

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  89. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by sulli · · Score: 1

    Well, you should at least be glad CmdrTaco doesn't speak Deutsch! Fewer errors.

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  90. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by cbowland · · Score: 1
    Some German words are hugely conotative and emotive, whereas the english equivalent would take an entire phrase to describe (and not as well either) the original German.

    One of my favorites is schadenfreude.Tell me that the German is not better than the English! (For those not familiar with the word, look it up.

    Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.

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  91. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by protactin · · Score: 1

    ..or maybe it could have something to do with Google's Director of Research being German?

  92. Re:Selbstverstandlich.. by mami · · Score: 1

    what's Dr. Merkwuerdigliebe in English ?

    Dr. Strangelove ?

  93. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by mami · · Score: 1

    Oooh, not at all, did you ever go to a hairdresser in Northwest Washington D.C. ? French as French can be. Not only do they (American ladies) pronounce them (the French words) "perfectly", they also pay "perfectly" for the little "aventure" to do it "a la francaise" and that is "magnifique" and much "au gout" of "le hairdressers francophone" in the Metropolitan Area.

    "Mon dieu, ce n'est pas la fault de la pauvre Madame Bush, que le mari 'always wears boots'." --
    a french hairdresser in Washington D.C, explaining why the new First Lady hasn't the "flair" of the current "Zeitgeist" in the city, where "Mensch" is an endangered species.

    What a "Schmarren".

    Ich nix sprechen French. Me love Uncle Tom and Uncle Sam. But essen always French cheese.

  94. Censorship... by Gannoc · · Score: 1
    I frankly just don't believe that "lesbian sex" isn't one of the top 10 queries.

    In fact, I don't believe it isn't one of the top 1 queries.

    1. Re:Censorship... by Gannoc · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't believe that you read any of the pop-up porn windows for more than 3 seconds, because its turns out that they really DO lead to the best porn on the net.

    2. Re:Censorship... by Gannoc · · Score: 1
      Ok, note to myself:

      Don't write anything attempting to be funny on slashdot, because somebody will mod you down as a Troll, or redundant

      I guess if I want Karma for some reason, i'll have to go back to cleverly worded linux-zealotry.

    3. Re:Censorship... by unitron · · Score: 2

      The way I heard it, they each lead to 40 other pop-ups.

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    4. Re:Censorship... by jgerman · · Score: 2

      Hell make that a note to everybody, that's why I quickly posted a correction to my first "kidding around" post. Otherwise I'd have been marked as flamebait in minutes. I guess that's the price we pay for moderation though. Truth be told, not everyone is intelligent enough to moderate. On the other hang it certainly offends my sense of equality to think that only certain people should be allowed moderation points. I guess it all probably equals out in the end.

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    5. Re:Censorship... by jgerman · · Score: 2
      I frankly just don't believe you spent more than 3 seconds on that page. The list are for the top ten gaining queries and declining queries. There's no list of top ten overall queries.

      Besides who needs to search for porn? All ya hafta do is enter a likely URL in your browser (http://buttcheeks.com) and you'll instantly have forty windows open all pointing you at 'the best porn on the net'.

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    6. Re:Censorship... by jgerman · · Score: 2

      Stupid me, I forgot that it was html formatted and my didn't show up. That post was supposed to be good natured, that'll teach me to use preview more often.

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  95. Yes, they really do by Vassily+Overveight · · Score: 1

    To be honest, the only thing that really surprised me there was how small a percentage of queries were adult related.

    I think with the increasing number of 'normal' people (i.e. non- hormonally-amped, socially challenged geeks) using the web, porn search requests have declined to an insignificant portion of the whole. In the past, when I've checked the 'search voyeurs' that some search sites offer, the "britney spears naked"-type requests were in the majority. I just checked Excite's voyeur and didn't see a single query like that in 150 that I looked at (but what the hell are "porker pipes"? It turned up twice. On second thought, maybe I don't want to know). I don't think that Google is sanitizing things, unless the other search voyeurs are too.

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    1. Re:Yes, they really do by Denial+of+Cervix · · Score: 1
      but what the hell are "porker pipes"?

      Aftermarket exhaust for Harley Davidsons. Get your mind out of the gutter! :)

      Speaking of minds in the gutter, "voyeur" pages that list current searches are pretty funny, if just for the misspelled words. Okay, yeah, and to see what other perv-monkeys are into.

      Thank dog most morons don't know that all the good free pr0n is on Usenet, not the web.

      DoC

  96. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Chainsaw+Messiah · · Score: 1

    Well, the entire English language was "borrowed" from German, French, Latin and others.

    Bit too late to change now ...

  97. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Evil+Grinn · · Score: 1
    Because not every person searching is from the states. I know that "Loft Story" is a French reality TV show

    Is it actually called "Loft Story" in France, or is that just its translation?

    Doesn't make much sense that the French would give English names to their TV series, but nowhere on the Yahoo story did it ever mention a French name for the show.

  98. Re:Google Keywords? by Kierthos · · Score: 1

    Oddly enough, just to check things out, I typed 'evil empire' in the search field on Google... it crashed the copy of IE.

    When I brought it back up and tried again, it actually returned sites, most of which are either anti-M$ sites (what a shock there!) or sites on Reagan's policies towards the U.S.S.R.

    Yeah, it looks like they changed their search
    algorithm a bit, as the title of the web page seems to be weighed more heavily as a good result rather then having the text of the query somewhere else in the page. Maybe they did this to stop all the embedded text pr0n sites which have entire dictionaries of words the same colour as the background.

    Kierthos

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  99. No SSL, no privacy. by lostchicken · · Score: 1
    I think it's pretty well understood that if you don't encrypt traffic, you have no expectation of privacy. People sit and watch the Gnutella searches scroll by, and nobody blames the developers of the clients for allowing me to see them in real-time. Google is not releasing IPs, so I say what they do with data you sent, knowing full well you are submitting that data, is up to Google.

    Go buy a ticket to a movie. That result will show up in the ratings. This is no different.

    twb

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  100. At least... by mother_superius · · Score: 1
    Abercrombie & Fitch is declining.

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  101. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by tschild · · Score: 1

    That's really harmless. For one thing it makes for some chuckles when people get it wrong, and then we Germans should not complain, or the English-speaking world might decide to make us pay license fees for our use of English words.

  102. Re:The net has mature, finally. by ReverendGraves · · Score: 1
    Beside, Zeitgeist means spirit of the age, not what they said.

    Well, technically, the "general intellectual, moral, and cultural climate of an era" is the "spirit of the age." The only difference is that of terminology and the prevalence of people using terms such as "zeitgeist" to lay claim to membership in some elitist intelligencia, beyond academia into the professional world.

    It's all about semantics, Mr. Jones.

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  103. Google Keywords? by Codeala · · Score: 1

    Slighly OT, but anyone remember the old "hidden" keywords on Google? If you typed in something like "evil empire", the Microsft homepage is the first link it returns... There are also keywords for other sites, such as Yahoo and AltaVista.

    Am I losing my mind, or did Google change their search algorithm? Now it is just doing keywords matches (it seems). eg "evil empire" now returns something with "evil empire" in the page title... Whats up with that?

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  104. META Avatar of Wisdom by FrankDrebin · · Score: 1

    And of course, nerd-dom will prevail with something like:
    "You get your 'tude from Google?" That is soooo lame! Everybody who's somebody uses MetaGopher"

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  105. Porn... by codefreez · · Score: 1

    I notice that the "Arts" catagory has the highest percentage of hits on their little pie chart. Do you honestly think that many people are searching for Van Gogh? ;)

  106. Foreign names in the US by crankie · · Score: 1

    I can think of one. There was a film a few years back called "Pret a Porter" (excuses any missing accents) about the fashion industry.

    Oh, wait, that was renamed to "Ready to Wear" for American audiences. Kinda reminds me of when "The Madness of King George" came out. The film was about King George the fourth, but it was felt that "King George IV" would confuse the American audiences as to why they hadn't seen the previous three.

    Pointless disclaimer: These are things I have read in the European media. They may have been biased. But Pret a Porter was definitely called just that when it was released in Ireland.

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    1. Re:Foreign names in the US by TotallyUseless · · Score: 2

      Considering the film came out in 1994, and Clinton was the president, I seriously doubt that was a concern of theirs. Also, the movie was about George III, not IV... although I believe the part about American audiences wondering why we hadn't seen the first ones. Link to imdb listing here

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    2. Re:Foreign names in the US by tomknight · · Score: 2
      My understanding is that the film was to have been called "The Madness Of George" only US audiences might think it referred to Pres. G Bush. Sad, really.

      Tom.

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    3. Re:Foreign names in the US by zhensel · · Score: 2

      I remember it being called Pret a Porter: Ready to Wear or something to that effect. Not like it's at all relevant. American movies have translated titles in Europe half the time as well. I just went through Greece, Austria, Germany, and France and I probably saw three different translated titles for "The Mummy Returns." Then again, "Antitrust" was always the same. One translation that I thought was pretty impressive was changing "Lola Rennt" to "Run Lola Run." It used an American cultural symbol in with a form of the original title to make an interesting translation. Titles are going to be translated - live with it. It's not just dumb american audiences. Books are the same way. I just read Camus' The Plague ... not Le' Plague or something to that extent. Similarly, I saw billions of copies of John Grishiams (spelling, sorry) Die Jury in Germany and Austria. Now, the translation I understand, but why the hell would any country adopt that author besides America? Then again, Germany also adored David Hasselhoff for awhile, so who knows?

  107. What should we do oh great Avatar of Wisdom? by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 1

    So what exactly are we supposed to do online. Emulating TV viewing habits, which emulate Radio listening habits seems like a good start to me! But thats not all folks do. They participate in forums like this one. They view pr0n. They play games. They talk in IRC and on AOL. They even take classes and learn about things they never have before online. But people always have to START somewhere it takes TIME to broaden your horizons on the net. So PLEASE TELL ME AND THE REST OF US WHAT WE SHOULD DO FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD!!!

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    1. Re:What should we do oh great Avatar of Wisdom? by Lothar+0 · · Score: 1

      Read. :) Most people *don't* advance, that's the problem, and that's why ephermal pop-culture crap will always dominate the the Top Ten rising category and then go into the Top Ten declining spot when the fad has fizzled.

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    2. Re:What should we do oh great Avatar of Wisdom? by Tackhead · · Score: 5
      > Most people *don't* advance, that's the problem, and that's why ephermal pop-culture crap will always dominate the the Top Ten rising category and then go into the Top Ten declining spot when the fad has fizzled.

      So you geeks in high school or college that want a social life -- all you have to do is find the "rising top 10", click on a few, eliminate the ones that aren't part of your culture (e.g. French Big Brother), and voila, you're on top of the trends.

      Best yet, you can say "Naah, I gave that up, it's so over" when you see 'em on the declining top-10.

      The first few times, it'll be passed off as coincidence. Two or three big fads later, and all the "cool people" at school will forever wonder how the hell you always seem to know what's trendy before they do.

      Once the whole school is following your lead as Supreme Arbiter Of Cool, fuck with their heads. Start a Tux-The-Penguin tattooing craze, for instance...

  108. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by RexxFiend · · Score: 1

    I have just coined a new word:

    aipeeangst - n - the obsession with intellectial property and copywrighted works.

    Furthermore, I am going to release this new word under the GPL. You are free to use this word in conversations and in written english, however you must make any such conversation or written work freely available to anyone who requests it.


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    Your expensive computer

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  109. Re:No, Wait!!!! by typical+geek · · Score: 1

    We'll see if it scales. Gnutella hasn't seemed to scale well.

  110. Re:Not Flamebait by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

    I'm guessing (with no evidence) that most users still do not have static IPs. Whether that be through ISPs, DHCP at work, or NATs at home or work, and then include DHCP cable modems and DSLs, I would guess that the # of people with true static IPs would be minimal. Of course, you could always proxy yourself through various programs. One being Multiproxy, which I like to use when I am spreading terrorist ebola monkey explosive militia anti-government propaganda (eat that, Eschalon!).

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  111. Strom by antek9 · · Score: 1

    Schtrom! Pick your own nose, Strom is german for stream or electrical current.

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    1. Re:Strom by antek9 · · Score: 1

      Stromberg = Mountain (berg) within a stream; a common family name in Germany.

      Strombecker sounds more like 'someone from a town named Strombeck'; another possibility would be to treat becker as being derived from german Bäcker, baker, but apart from some baker using an electrical oven (don't they all, nowadays?), that wouldn't make much sense.

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    2. Re:Strom by unitron · · Score: 2

      Then how would Stomberg and Strombecker translate?

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  112. Re:No, Wait!!!! by antek9 · · Score: 1

    Technically, it's supposed to work the other way around: the more users, the more sources you'll have available for your downloads.

    Well, technically.

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  113. More like ... by antek9 · · Score: 1


    ... Zeistgeit?

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  114. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by antek9 · · Score: 1

    Yes. Only, the concept of Zeitgeist (as well as Weltgeist) goes back to german philosopher G.W.F. Hegel, compare his work Phänomenologie des Geistes.

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  115. Re:Adult searches rank so low? by imaginate · · Score: 1

    That's probably the reason why they don't show the actual top ten searches, just the top ten declining and increasing.

    My guess is that the porn searches stay pretty steady, so they wouldn't show up on either list...

  116. "Sadism" not close enough... by Sheever · · Score: 1

    Actually Schadenfreude is what you feel when you enjoy the fact that something miserable has happened to somebody else. You're a sadist if you obtain pleasure from inflicting pain on others (words borrowed from dict). Thus sadism is more an attitude than a feeling. Of course, you can be both a sadist and have a feeling of Schadenfreude at the same time...

  117. Re:Top 10 misspelled... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

    The most misspelled word at Google... "Zeitgeist"!

  118. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by NaturePhotog · · Score: 1

    Let's go ahead and put Japanese on the list of "bastard" languages that "steal" from others. At least you know what you're getting with Japanese. Loan words are written in a special alphabet called Katakana. It's phonetic (similar to Hiragana, which is a phonetic alphabet for pronouncing Japanese words), and when you see a word written in it you know it's a loan word. Or some gaijin's name. It doesn't have all the sounds from other languages, so some words morph. Just ask my brother-in-law, Rars...er...Lars, who lived in Tokyo for a year. Japanese has borrowed from many languages, including Chinese, Portuguese, and English (including my favorite, hottoke-ki = pancakes). Of course, English has returned the favor, borrowing sushi (which sounds so much better than uncooked fish) and a host of other words.

  119. measurement by jahjeremy · · Score: 1

    Measuring gain and not raw numbers means that some searches which reappear week to week would not show on the zeitgeist, even if they have the highest totals.

    Let's say "star trek" had more queries than wimbleton, paula poundstone and jack lemmon combined, yet it had fewer than in the last measurement period. It wouldn't show on this "radar" at all.

    I'm interested in the top searches, period (Inquiring minds want to know, dammit). All this tells me is that people's interests change like the wind, which I already knew. (Of course, queries about "the fast and the furious" are going to skyrocket, considering that no one even knew about it before the tv advertisements.)

  120. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Sweetwind · · Score: 1

    Yeh, and "shadenfreud" -- is there any other language that has a specific word just for "glee at other people's misery"?

  121. Re:Who? What? Huh? by CKW · · Score: 1

    That's called a "big bright warm smile", and it looks spectacular. Perhaps you're not familiar with them :)

    Neck down!?! I don't see any part of her I don't like!

  122. That can't be right by bark76 · · Score: 1

    Pr0n isn't in their top 5 misspelled queries???

  123. Re:Not Flamebait by TikkaMassala · · Score: 1

    But as long as they don't store any data that ties individual users to the queries, then that's fine. It doesn't violate anyone's privacy.

  124. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by TikkaMassala · · Score: 1
    And of course, when people in the US say these French words, they pronounce them perfectly, much to the glee of French people everywhere.

    I sincerely hope that was a joke! :)

  125. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by TikkaMassala · · Score: 1

    It always reminds me of war films. I guess that's because war films are where most people hear German. When I was in Frankfurt Hahn Airport in Germany, the security guards at the checkpoint asked for a man to follow them to one side to be searched. They barked this command, and the guy put his hands in the air like he was surrendering. I laughed, anyway.

  126. Re:Who? What? Huh? by TikkaMassala · · Score: 1

    That's because Billy Bob in his trailer wouldn't know what roue de la fortune was.

  127. Re:The net has mature, finally. by hereticmessiah · · Score: 1

    No. More properly, it's translated as 'Spirit of the Time(s)'. The word 'geist' is pretty multilayered.

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  128. Re:Selbstverstandlich.. by hereticmessiah · · Score: 1

    Variations on the word 'mannequin' have always existed in English. My understanding is that the modern word is a native word derived from the Old English for 'Little Man' rather than an import from Dutch. Still, considering how similar the languages were at that time, it's almost a moot point, really.

    Feck it, mod this one as 'redundant'.

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  129. Habits of the Masses by Lothar+0 · · Score: 1

    This goes to show you how fickle most non-geeks are with the Internet. They're treating it like a remote control zipping through 50-odd channels, but they're not taking advantage of what the Net can be *outside* of the bounds of Big Media-determined culture. When the televised hype of a certain topic dies down, these will be in the Top Ten Declining list, and the experience of looking for them will be no different than sitting in front of the tube. Way to expand the Net's potential to free oneself from the TV Matrix.

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  130. Re: Old lone word, not these days by Titney · · Score: 1

    Erm if you look at the bottom on the zeitgeist page there is actually a "Zeitgeist Explained... " cut n pasted from webster, stating plainly "Date: 1884", so the use of that word isn't really part of the zeitgeist (excuse the horrible pun)

  131. Zeitgeist actually means... by easter1916 · · Score: 1

    ..."the spirit of the times". Just to be pedantic.

  132. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by discogravy · · Score: 1

    Somebody will have to draw me a diagram here as to how adopting a foreign language word somehow diminish the parent language. Must be something like software "piracy".

    this is actually kind of common with some older langagues; i know the french and the spanish currently have programs to help keep their languages "pure" (the french with more..uh..zeal than anyone else, afaik--to the extent that certain contractions and bastardizations of phrases are considered a Bad Thing, e.g. the ubiquitous "cool" and the short form "mel" (for mail-electronique, i believe, but i'm not 100% on that). afaik, the spanish are more concerned with keeping their language from dying out.) priests did this with latin as well, and until the lutheran split, reading and interpreting the bible by anyone other than a trained cleric/priest was Frowned Upon.

    it is tempting to draw parallels between "closed" languages like this and closed/open source software. mutt languages, that draw from various sources, seem to last the longest and seem to be more pervasive than their counterparts. draw your own conclusions.

    it was, in fact, the french who got the UN to fuxor the "universal language" of esperanto, which sucks, since it is a totally neutral* and easy-to-learn-beyond-belief language. their reason? french was the language of science, and therefor would never fall out of vogue.

    http://www.esperanto.net for those interested.

    *totally neutral in the sense that there are no Esperanto speaking nations and the largest majority of people who learn/speak it do not do so as their first language.

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  133. Re:Adult searches rank so low? by Saeger · · Score: 1

    The influx of net newbies has slowed -- and most are moving their pr0n queries from the web to file-sharing apps anyway.

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  134. Re:What I find sadly telling . . . by trash+eighty · · Score: 1

    i think its a good thing! ;)

  135. Along the same lines... by +ECLG+FreshMaker · · Score: 1
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  136. Re:The German language seems popular by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1
    So Germany is north of France? And Austria is north of Belgium.

    Riggghhhhhttttt....

  137. Re:It still does not work! by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1
    The other thing that bugs me about Google search is that is isn't - as far as I know - possible to *exclude* a whole phrase. You can only put the minus sign on a single word... submitting -"Joe Bloggs" only excludes "Joe", and includes "Bloggs".

    Submitting -Joe -Bloggs excludes "Bloggs Joe" as well as "Joe Bloggs".

    Lame.

  138. Re:The German language seems popular by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1
    Apologies. I see where you're coming from now, and I quite agree. Mind you, having re-read your original post, there wasn't QUITE enough in it to make it clear that you weren't just being geographically ignorant. ;-)

    Or maybe that's what happens when you post at 2 in the morning. Anyway, sorry for being a bit of an arse.

  139. Re:Which is why Google is a poor choice... by Ambient+Sheep · · Score: 1

    Which is why for phrase searches I put up with all the soddin' advertisements and haul my arse over to Altavista...but for anything else, Google rules, if only for the sheer speed of loading the query page.

  140. Re:Who? What? Huh? by ferret4 · · Score: 1
    I thought it was pretty much an offence not to use french words in france (as a french person/company etc) as the french culture ministry is paranoid that their language is becoming sullied through over-use of english words when french equivilants exist (or even when they don't, bizzarly).

    *I* know languages evolve and all that, but the french cultural ministry doesn't seem to want it to, by force of law (or at least fines).

    I could be wrong. It could have been Eurotrash having a laff.


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  141. Re:It would be nice by roxytheman · · Score: 1

    No they can't record that, but what they can do is record which sites that show up on most queries (and those propably is the ones that was clicked the most too). ...and I don't doubt for one second that they do log this :-)

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  142. Re:Loft Story ! by roxytheman · · Score: 1

    Hmm at least Big Brother got own version in each country. Here, Big Brother is in Norwegian.
    Sure Loft Story isn't in Danish in Denmark too? I am sure someonw know.

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  143. Re:Since Google is a Search Engine by flez · · Score: 1

    So, can you? I've wanted to try this but my comp is a good 40 feet from the television... Which changes it from a game show to a sport.

  144. Re:The net has mature, finally. by Sardaukar · · Score: 1

    Regardless of whether this Zeitgeist is local or global in scope, search engine queries should not be used to measure anything other than what resources a specific group of people are searching for during a given period of time.

  145. Re:The net has mature, finally. by Sardaukar · · Score: 1

    Yes, thank you -- you're bang on. Why Google would use such a term is beyond me.

    Georg Hegel, the famous German philosopher of the early 19th century, used the term 'Zeitgeist' to describe the transitions of the various phases of history. He theorized that through the process of 'thesis' and 'antithesis' a synthesis would occur defining an age's 'Zeitgeist.' It is arguable that through Hegel, that the term 'Zeitgeist', and its application to describe an era's "Spirit of History", was conveyed to the public.

    Philosophers and political scientists continue to use the term when discussing various political/social regimes, superstructures, and socialization issues.

    Google assumes -- quite arrogantly -- that the "spirit" of our times, or even cultural climate, is defined and measured by what words people key into the Google search engine; I'm sure Hegel is turning over in his grave. The current Zeitgeist is not about Niki Taylor pictures or how to book a seat on the next Delta airlines flight. Moreover, even if search engine queries could measure cultural sentiment, it could hardly be taken as a global (or even regional) sample. Most people on this planet are not on the Web, and not all those who are use Google.

    At the very most, this study reveals what information and resources a specific group of people want during a particular period of time. By no means should it be equated with the Spirit of the Times.

  146. Re:Obvious (o)mission... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2
    Make Slashdot the top Gaining search

    Nah, we need something funnier. Like "Gerbil cleaning and refurbishing services". Everyone click on this link, list it as your home page, and stick it in your sigs:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=Gerbil+cleaning+and +refurbishing+services&sa=Google+Search

  147. Re:Since Google is a Search Engine by Masem · · Score: 2
    I remember watching the "most recent questions" at Ask Jeeves while watching Millionaire at the same time, and (un?)surprisingly, most of those upper level millionaire questions showed up right after they were asked.

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  148. Shakespeare by Forge · · Score: 2

    "Shakespeare" is the 5th most misspelt query.

    If that isn't Ironic, nothing is.

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  149. Re:I see you're pretty easy to please ... by Vermifax · · Score: 2
    "personally, that same checklist adds up to : pig."

    Of course upon reaching the same stereotypical conclusion you have rendered yourself in the same light.

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  150. Re:Not Flamebait by Genom · · Score: 2

    Chances are they *do* store the ip the search came from -- which, if you have a static IP like me, means they *could* tie in what you've searched for over time. Note that AFAIK, there's nowhere on Google where they actually ask for your name, email, etc... - but if they can ID you by IP, that's nearly as good, for targeting purposes. As soon as they have a "survey" or other somesuch where they want your email address, name, etc... they will have all the info they need to build a complete "browsing profile"...

    I'm sure CmdrTaco finds some of this stuff fascinating - and I'm sure there are some neat things that can be pulled form the aggregate data - but I would be more concerned with the privacy implications.

  151. Re:Not Flamebait by spitzak · · Score: 2

    It would still be fascinating. Now go outside and play.

  152. Re:This will feed back into the searches by spitzak · · Score: 2

    Direct links from the page sound like a good idea. This would avoid the feedback problem if they did not count toward the totals that make the page.

  153. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Kiwi · · Score: 2
    That is very interesting, considering that the vowel used in "look" does not have an equivalent in Spanish. The closest one can get with Spanish vowels is either "loke" (rymes with "Coke"), or "Luke".

    In a similiar vein, Mexicans pronounce the English word "Jeep" the same way Americans do, even though the "j" sound (the "soft g") in "Jeep" does not exist in Spanish.

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  154. Striking! by simpleguy · · Score: 2

    I would have thought that Britney Spears or Cindy Margolis might be on top of the Celebrity queries. I wonder what people want to see about Jenna Bush... The Loana phenomenon is logical tho'

    Another thing that striked me is how Napster is so popular despite it was nailed so hard lately. Upon thinking, the best explanation would be that users are searching for Napster alternatives.

    "Arts" took 22% of the pie chart distribution, only 2% more than "Computers". I am happy to see that I am living in a world with lots of people with artistic tastes.

    1. Re:Striking! by connorbd · · Score: 2

      Yeah... There's a headline (no story) in the most recent Onion:

      Jenna Bush's
      Federally Protected
      Wetlands Now Open
      For Public Drilling

      Now to me this is a little OTT. They're college kids -- of course they're going to be a bit wild. And nobody is going to say that they're not hot. But I don't know...

      /Brian

    2. Re:Striking! by jsse · · Score: 2

      Arts" took 22% of the pie chart distribution, only 2% more than "Computers". I am happy to see that I am living in a world with lots of people with artistic tastes.

      I apology to destory your confident in humane. In fact porns that don't make people throw up are catagorized as 'Arts'. The rest are put into either 'Adult', 'Science', or 'Reference'.

      Also, those attached with phone sex numbers are put into 'Shopping'.

    3. Re:Striking! by tb3 · · Score: 2

      Take a look at the fan site thefirsttwins.com for some insight into the Jenna Bush phenomenon. Interesting, but a little twisted.

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  155. Re:The net has mature, finally. by unitron · · Score: 2

    They call it "Google Zeitgeist", not "Zeitgeist of the entire planet". I'm sure that at some point someone has used the term "American Zeitgeist" and it wasn't too hard to figure out that they weren't talking about Europe or Asia.

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  156. Re:The net has mature, finally. by unitron · · Score: 2
    "...more than the sum of their parts."

    Aren't they the ones who gave us "gestalt"?

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  157. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by unitron · · Score: 2
    "Philosophers never could quite agree on a word or phrase that captured the weird sense of nostalgia for the present that seemed to emanate from that word."

    Considering that nostalgia is "A bittersweet longing for things, persons, or situations of the past", I can see where they would have a problem.

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  158. This will feed back into the searches by philg · · Score: 2

    The first thing I did when I saw that 'audiogalaxy' was one of the rising searches was go search for them and see what I got. I've already seen posts requesting actual links from the zeitgeist entries (presumably to the searches they spawn, and not pre-chosen links).

    It will be interesting to see how these reports drive -- and therefore change -- searching trends if they become popular.

    phil
  159. Re:Wait till they start to sell / charge for it. by banky · · Score: 2

    I don't follow. My IP was different yesterday than it is today (cable modem). Yesterday, at 11.22.33.44 I searched for "literacy rates in medieval europe". Today with IP 11.22.33.34 I searched for "websieve".

    Even the most brilliant marketing gonzo will look at that and say big deal.

    I truly don't understand what the conspiracy bits are getting set for. The information is interesting but useless, unless you're doing some kind of zeigeist master's thesis.

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  160. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Outland+Traveller · · Score: 2

    Lighten up and take it as a compliment. There are a number of German words that succinctly sum up abstract concepts that do not have an English/French/etc counterpart.

  161. Damnit Rob, stop scaring me! by ./ · · Score: 2

    I like having an account at Slashdot. I like my user ID. I like it when Slashdot says things like:

    Casinos Hit the Data Jackpot

    Really Targeted Advertising

    You Are What You Click

    TiVo usage Info Collected For Sale

    But then he said:

    > You can do fascinating stuff with the amount of data Google has.

    My feeble little mind can't handle the inconsistency! Arrrrrrrgh! (pop)

  162. Google Logging! by wangi · · Score: 2
    Wierd in the extreme. When using Google with IE5.5 all URLs were redirected through their site. Trying again with Netscape on Linux this didn't happen, ditto for other browsers/OSs and other folks installations of IE.

    After clearing out my cache and cookies this behaviour no longer occurs...

    Are Google doing selective logging of some of their users? Frequent users?

    Does anyone else get their links redirected through 'http://www.google.com/url'?

    1. Re:Google Logging! by lizrd · · Score: 3

      Do you have the google IE toolbar installed? I know that it does some logging of searches and pages visited and things like that. If you don't have it installed you should. It's realy slick. I like it even better than the address bar Google searches in Konqueror.

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  163. What I find sadly telling . . . by Badgerman · · Score: 2

    Is that of the celebrety queries, I don't KNOW who the top two are.

    I think this says I'm out of touch with the interests of the general web-using population. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

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    1. Re:What I find sadly telling . . . by peccary · · Score: 2

      So run a query already. That's what the thing is made for.

  164. Angst by harmonica · · Score: 2

    What about angst? It simply means 'fear' in German, nevertheless I often see it used to describe a movie or a novel, like in 'angst-laden'.

    In German commercials English is often used to appear more cool / funky / sexy / whatever. You will find short phrases or even single words used in English where there are perfect German counterparts. Very often these are phrases that do not make a whole lot of sense or add to a description. English is simply used to appear modern. Maybe people who don't understand English well enough are supposed to be impressed by that, I often find it ridiculous.

  165. Re:Loft Story ! by harmonica · · Score: 2

    Nah, Big Brother is interesting if it is either new or if the mix of people is well done. I liked the first season in Germany, the following two were quite boring (didn't really watch the third).

  166. Google has other cool search engines... by Polo · · Score: 2

    I posted this before, I think it's pretty cool...

    Google has some specialty search engines.

    There's a Google Linux Search Engine (even a penguin logo)

    There's also a Google BSD Search Engine (with daemon) and a Google Apple Mac Search Engine (with fruity colors) too.

    Surprisingly absent (or not!?) is a search engine for that other operating system...

  167. Re:mo' money - no dedication by Van+Halen · · Score: 2

    Actually, I'll bet that with Google's PageRank indexing technology, this will hardly be an issue. If these websites have no good content, nobody will link to them and they'll get terrible rankings in Google's index. Of course, who knows what could happen with other search engines...

  168. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by sbeitzel · · Score: 2

    As some others have noted, the reason the borrowing happens is that the single word is shorter and therefore easier to use than the English counterpart. This is one reason why words migrate across languages.

    However, why a word gets used often is another question. From time to time, one of these new concepts surfaces in the popular consciousness and people seem to go out of their way to use the word whenever possible. This is particularly noticeable in the "alternative" press and in movie reviews. Fifteen years ago, there should have been an Oscar category, "Most gratuitous use of the phrase, 'mise en scene'." Ten years ago, it was "zeitgeist". Nowadays, it seems to be "schadenfreude".

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  169. Re:Since Google is a Search Engine by generic-man · · Score: 2

    Bingo. The $1 million question was "On 'The Brady Bunch,' what was Carol Brady's maiden name?" That threw even the most avid TV trivia buffs, and was pretty hard even for a jackpot-level question. Past questions have included "Who invented the helicopter?" and "Which celebrity appeared on Laugh-In?" There was even a question about computer history: "Which insect, found in a 1945 Mark II computer, is considered the first computer 'bug'?"

    Given the length of time people spend thinking about these questions on the show, it's very easy to get on Google and look up the answers. Sometimes, a phone-a-friend lifeline will try to Google the question, resulting in awkward silence as he waits for his results to download.

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  170. Re:Adult searches rank so low? by Hobbex · · Score: 2


    I doubt it. I think it's more likely that most porn searchers are actually so lame they don't know about Google but use whatever comes up when they press "search" on their browsers...

    Most people who are clued in enough to use a decent search engine are also know that searching for porn only leads to javascript traps.

  171. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Hobbex · · Score: 2


    It seems that it is not uncommon to have English-named programs in foriegn countries. For some reason, it doesn't work the other way quite as well, though. I can't think of any foreign-titled shows in the U.S.

    Yeah, like those US search engines that never use german names for their statistics...

  172. Loft Story ! by chrysalis · · Score: 2

    It's really funny to see how popular Loft Story has been. Celebrity #1 : Loana. Nobody hear about her before Loft Story, and she's far from being as cute as Nikkie.
    I can hardly understand why Loft Story has been so popular on Google. Loft Story is only a french TV show, while Big Brother can be watched by far more people (english language) .
    Anyway, Loft Story is over now. The game ended yesterday. Loana and Christophe won. We'll have to wait until 2002 to see Loft Story 2.
    It was the first time something like Big Brother happened in France, and I have to say.... that I really loved it. As a proof, you can check my Loft Story for Unix client.
    But I still can't figure out why Big Brother has been beaten in Google's audience.

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    1. Re:Loft Story ! by peccary · · Score: 2

      You must be joking. You think people watche this crap for the dialogue? BWAHAHA. It's like this:

      Big Brother had boring video on the web. Loft Story had naked babes, and real amateur porn.

      Isn't that reason enough?

  173. Cha-ching by Illserve · · Score: 2

    One might expect that google could demand some hefty premiums for such data updated on a daily basis to marketing companies. If they keep it all, there is a huge amount of interesting data mining that could be performed. IP logs, for example, would allow information to be broken down by city/state of origin.

    Analysis of cultural trends could be taken to a more immediate level by comparing the number of queries about a topic to queries about previous culture flashes (e.g. AYB). This could reveal interesting threshold effects.

    This assumes of course that google has sufficient and diverse market share to be accurate.

  174. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by PurpleBob · · Score: 2
    the "universal language" of esperanto, which sucks

    And here we have the ambiguities of English causing me to interpret your sentence as exactly the opposite of what you meant.
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  175. Re:Shakespear in most mispelt list by ostiguy · · Score: 2

    Exactly. Who are we to question google?

  176. Re:Who? What? Huh? by ucblockhead · · Score: 2

    "La Femme Nikita" is the only one I can think of. I don't think it lasted long, though.

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  177. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by aftersci · · Score: 2

    The use of Zeitgeist (I am guessing that is the word you are referring to) goes back at least to English-language translations of Heidegger. Philosophers never could quite agree on a word or phrase that captured the weird sense of nostalgia for the present that seemed to emanate from that word. Spirit of the times just doesn't work. Maybe it's the much stronger association with soul-ghost-death in the German that does the trick.

    There are many somberly connotated German words or phrases in the philosophical/psychoanalytical jargons. Blame Nietzsche, Wagner, and Freud.

  178. Swedish or Other... by pubudu · · Score: 2

    I have to wonder: for those of us who use Google in Swedish Chef mode, were our queries listed under the 1% Swedish, the 1% Other, or the 68% English (especially since switching to the English version is listed as one of the options)?

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  179. Re:The net has mature, finally. by po_boy · · Score: 2
    I just *loved* their top misspelled queries

    I noticed that carsdirect bought a keyword (or sponsored link) for "volkswagon" (the misspelling) and even used the misspelled word in the ad! Pretty cool.
  180. Re:Obvious (o)mission... by po_boy · · Score: 2

    I wonder if this page will see any benefit from this mission of yours.

  181. Wimbledon/tour de France by lovebyte · · Score: 2

    I find it quite suprising that so many people have searched for Wimbledon since the official site is www.wimbledon.com (and .org). What is less surprising is Le Tour de France since the official site is www.letour.com (and .fr) which is much less obvious.

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    1. Re:Wimbledon/tour de France by frankie · · Score: 2
      suprising that so many people have searched for Wimbledon since the official site is www.wimbledon.com

      Going straight to FOO.com is a risky strategy -- it's not at all uncommon to get trapped in a pr0n squatter site. Google is damn good about getting you to the genuinely useful sites, both official and not.

  182. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by sg3000 · · Score: 2

    You're right; you could argue that Zeitgeist as used in English just a fifty cent word version of "trend". But I think, we make a distinction between the two in ordinary usage (if one could seriously suggest that anyone uses the word Zeitgeist in ordinary usage).

    A "trend" kind of implies a short-lived idea, maybe spanning 1 1/2 years. When we say Zeitgeist, we often mean something overwhelming for an era or age. So while there was a trend in the early 1980s of wearing skinny ties, red silk suspenders represented a zeitgeist. The ties becoming skinny was simply a response to the wide ties of the 1970s. The red silk suspenders were more than that in that they symbolize the "power color" red (implying that "power" was synonymous with "aggressive"), the unnecessary expense of silk, and the overly-dressed look that requires suspenders -- remember the go-go 80s, "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous", junk bonds, people paying way too much money for works of art, tax cuts for the wealthy, etc? You could summarize it all with red silk suspenders. So while the ties were a trend, the suspenders encompassed something bigger than that.

    In a similar vein, I would argue that Eddie Bauer represents a zeitgeist for the 1990s, because the brand epitomizes the store-bought rugged individualism and pseudo-outdoors lifestyle that was popular: "Eddie Bauer" edition SUVs driving to fast food places, people buying overpriced clothes from Orvis that they would never wear to go hiking or anything, etc.

    So I guess you could say we use (perhaps misuse) the word Zeitgeist to mean an amalgamation of major trends. It's a fine (and perhaps unnecessary) distinction, but hey, that's what marketing is for.


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  183. Re:www.wordtracker.com by artemis67 · · Score: 2

    Where do they get this information, I wonder? Is it publicly available somewhere? I wouldn't mind looking through that raw file.

  184. Re:Shakespear in most mispelt list by dingbat_hp · · Score: 2
    The definition of how something is spelled, defined, or otherwise reduced to its canonical form is now defined by what Google tells us.

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  185. No Britney Spears! by Faed · · Score: 2

    It's nice to see John Lee Hooker and Bob Marley, instead of some of the lesser (no) talent folks:Lycos Top 50

  186. Re:Since Google is a Search Engine by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

    Sometimes when watching the show, I make a point of googling the question when somebody phones a friend, just to see if I can do it in ~25 seconds.

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  187. Re:The net has mature, finally. by Mr_Icon · · Score: 2

    Adult stuff is only 11% ?

    I wonder if "erotic gallery" search string qualifies as "art". ;)

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  188. Re:Shakespear in most mispelt list by aozilla · · Score: 2

    They were obviously doing a search for music from the group Shakespear's Sister

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  189. Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Stupid+Dog · · Score: 2

    As a native German speaker, I wonder why so many people "borrow" words from the German language these days. Yes, we had the same thing for years (You do not have to know a single German word to understand a teenager from Germany if you speak English nowadays), but what's the point about using German words? Does it really sound that cool to non-Germans?

    1. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by connorbd · · Score: 2

      The thing about using Frenchisms, though, is that even if they do have English equivalents there's a certain shade of meaning captured there. For example, there's a lot more snob factor in saying "nouveau riche" than there is in "new rich" -- the English way of saying says you just got money, but to use the French equivalent indicates that you're shoving it down other people's throats.

      /Brian

    2. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by swillden · · Score: 2

      I don't think it's necessarily German. It just so happens that some languages have a single word that expresses an idea more succinctly than in English.

      And the same happens to other languages. For example, many style-conscious Spanish-speakers have adopted the English noun "Look", as in "I like her new look." The word describes a combination of style, appearance and even attitude and there isn't a good equivalent in spanish ("moda" is close, but not quite there), so the english word is adopted.

      This happens all the time, and no languages are immune (though the French strive valiantly to keep their language "pure"). Sometimes it's for the utility of a particular word, sometimes for purposes of pretension. Usually it's both.

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    3. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by jeffehobbs · · Score: 2

      Not that anyone asked, but my favorite German word that succinctly sums up an abstract concept that does not have an English/French/etc counterpart is:

      schadenfreude

      Main Entry: schadenfreude
      Pronunciation: 'shä-d&n-"froi-d&
      Function: noun
      Usage: often capitalized
      Etymology: German, from Schaden damage + Freude joy
      Date: 1895
      : enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others

      That's one every slashdot poster should know and love.

      ~jeff

    4. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by dillon_rinker · · Score: 3

      If 'zeitgeist' annoys you, then you must really hate this:

      ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS!
      Das komputermaschine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy blowenfusen, schnappen der springenwerk, und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren keepen das hands in der pockets, relaxen, und watchen das blinkenlights.

    5. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by wiredog · · Score: 3

      It should be noted that english is descended from both German and French. English is the result of a norman man-at-arms trying to get in bed with a saxon barmaid. There's also some church latin in there. Recently, American english has imported Hawaiian, Japanese, Spanish, and others.

    6. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by sg3000 · · Score: 3

      I don't think it's necessarily German. It just so happens that some languages have a single word that expresses an idea more succinctly than in English.

      Notice how we define the word "Zeitgeist" in English as "the general intellectual, moral, and cultural climate of an era." So instead of saying the latter phrase, we can just steal a single word from Germany. If we could define the word "Zeitgeist" as "well, it means the same as 'flgrogbrsa' in English, then we'd have no reason to use the German word. I guess we could go to the trouble of making up our own in English, but people in this country have problems as it is with the words we've got.

      There are exceptions, of course, but I think when people borrow German words it's because there's no good English equivalent.

      Now, French on the other hand, is a different story. People in the US use French all the time when there are perfectly acceptable English subtitutes: lèse-majesté (detraction from dignity), par excellence (being the best kind), nouveau riche (new rich), etc. So in that case, we have no excuse. And of course, when people in the US say these French words, they pronounce them perfectly, much to the glee of French people everywhere.

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    7. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by sql*kitten · · Score: 5
      I wonder why so many people "borrow" words from the German language these days

      It's like "doppelganger". Why do Germans have a word for that? Does it happen a lot over there? Really, I'm curious.

    8. Re:Ongoing abuse of the German language? by Moofie · · Score: 5

      Let's go ahead and put Japanese on the list of "bastard" languages that "steal" from others.

      Somebody will have to draw me a diagram here as to how adopting a foreign language word somehow diminish the parent language. Must be something like software "piracy".

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  190. Re:The German language seems popular by kalifa · · Score: 2

    Wrong. Most "trendy" French businessmen believe it has become a sign of archaism to keep on speaking French when doing business. The last "chic" is to speak English in a reunion, without any reasonable reason, surrounded exclusively by native French speakers. More specifically, english is in some sense the "right-wing" language, that is, the language of Anglo-Saxon style capitalism, and French is the "left-wing" language, ie the language of continental social-democracy. I'm caricaturing a bit, but not that much.

    When a French company goes "global" (Alcatel, Vivendi, etc...), English becomes the official language used by the executives to produce documents.

  191. Re:"National socialism" in France by kalifa · · Score: 2

    Ok, 1st, socialism is not "government controlling people's private affairs". Socialism is when means of production are socialized (that is, owned by the collectivity, typically via the state).

    "Government controlling people's private affairs" is really not a French thing. The French have strong anarchist and individualist tendencies, and they actually tend to consider that the people in the US are much less free than they are, on such matters as alcohol, nudity (classical example: can your girlfriend show her breasts on the beach?), sex and strong language regulations on various media, tobacco, etc... now, THAT is "Government controlling people's private affairs".

    There are absolutely no quotas nor protectionnist measures on movies in France; it is a myth, period. There are just subsidies for French movies, and nothing more. The only quotas there ever was were on some radio stations which were asked to broadcast at least a certain percentage (quite low) of music in which the lyrics were in French. Everybody in France made fun of this law, which was quickly abandonned. This was around 1994. However, this was enough to create these preposterous myths on French cultural quotas. These myths fit so well with Francophobic prejudices that they haven't disappeared yet, after many years.

    Last, there is absolutely no censorship on language on the French Internet.

    I spend half of my life in the US, and half in France. I strongly advise you to come live a few months in France to realize how far from realities your prejudices can be. By all means, don't always trust what is written in the NY Times editorials or in the Wall Street Journal. In the meanwhile, you can read these quite good articles on contemporary France written by Americans (one conservative, one liberal). It may enlighten you on various issues for which your prejudices (economic, cultural, political, whatever) have no ground:

    http://www.policyreview.org/oct00/caldwell_print .h tml

    http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/95dec/france/f ra nce.htm

  192. Re:The German language seems popular by kalifa · · Score: 2

    Oh, give me a FUCKING BREAK, will you? Germany is in majority a country with a protestant background, speaking a germanic language (obviously), and as such is culturally "classified" in the norther Europe category. France is in majority a country with a catholic background, it is considered as a latin country, it is in contact with the mediterranean sea, it speaks a roman-type language and was part of the roman empire (Germany was not), and as such is culturally "classified" in the southern Europe category.

  193. Re:Latin America? by kalifa · · Score: 2

    Latin America today has mostly a geographical sense... Otherwise, one other reason may be that Quebec is not a country, and is part of a country which is in majority protestant and English-speaking, that is, not latin.

  194. Re:Minitel? by kalifa · · Score: 2

    Yes, read above, I mentioned the Minitel as one of the reasons. Otherwise, FYI the Internet is much less regulated in France than in the US (especially on sex and use of company-owned trademarks for parody and other uses). France has got a bad reputation on this because:

    1- Francophobia is fashionable.
    2- France was a few months late compared with the US in liberalizing its regulations on the use of cryptography (today these rules are more liberal in France than in the US).
    3- A bunch of bigots have found a sympathetic judge for the Yahoo! ruling.

    I should also mention that your "national socialist" qualification of the French government was truly unnecessary.

  195. Re:The German language seems popular by kalifa · · Score: 2

    Considering that practically all the queries come from developped countries, it is not that surprising that German is more queried than French: there are approximately 70 million Native French speakers in the developped countries (in France, Quebec, Belgium, Switzerland) and almost 100 million native German speakers (in Germany, Austria, Switzerland).

    Besides, for the moment, the Internet is more widely used in Germany than in France. In part because of the Minitel, and more generally Northern Europe is more connected than Southern Europe (which may be because life is less boring in the neighboorhood of the mediterranean sea, but that's another story :-)).

  196. Re:Who? What? Huh? by suss · · Score: 2

    That's because Billy Bob in his trailer wouldn't know what roue de la fortune was.

    Would you even care what's on tv if you were married to Angelina Jolie? (Yes, Jolie is a French word too...)

  197. Selbstverstandlich.. by HiQ · · Score: 2

    I think that the use of a number of German words is coming from philosofy and psychology; sciences from which there are lots and lots of famous Germans. Unfortunately there aren't many internationally famous words originating from my langauge (= Dutch), except for the word "apartheid" :-(

  198. Also see the Zeitgeist Archive... by NewbieSpaz · · Score: 2
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  199. Re:Shakespear in most mispelt list by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 2
    its canonical form is now defined by what Google tells us.

    Damn. One of my pet peeves has always been the misspelling of Wookiee (14.6k hits) as Wookie (49k hits). I guess I'm officially in the wrong, now.

    On the other hand, "Erasmus is right" has 4 hits, while "Erasmus is wrong" has only 1 hit. So I'm still right 80% of the time.

  200. /. affect on Google Zeitgeist list? by Ratteau · · Score: 2

    I have to admit, I was curious. I had to know... I ran a google search on "edonkey"

  201. Re:Since Google is a Search Engine by update() · · Score: 2
    The $1 million question was "On 'The Brady Bunch,' what was Carol Brady's maiden name?" That threw even the most avid TV trivia buffs, and was pretty hard even for a jackpot-level question.

    I was going to say "Carol Martin" and wonder if that was really her maiden name or just her late first husband's name. Deciding to search myself, I see "Tyler" is her maiden name and "Martin" was her name when she married Mike (as I correctly recollected from the pilot). That is pretty tough -- anyone know what show gave that name?

    I may not have any idea who Barbara Schett, Loana and Vicky Botwright are but I do know a little about The Brady Bunch.

    Unsettling MOTD at my ISP.

  202. Re:www.wordtracker.com by mother_superius · · Score: 2
    Why search for porn? The internet practically is all porn.

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  203. Re:It would be nice by bmongar · · Score: 2

    After thinking about it, they could record it, if instead of giving a direct url, they gave a redirecting url through their site. They don't do this but they could.

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  204. No, Wait!!!! by typical+geek · · Score: 2

    There's still a few hundred movies I haven't downloaded yet before it gets overwhelmed by the masses!

  205. The net has mature, finally. by Ayende+Rahien · · Score: 2

    Adult stuff is only 11% ? I thought that it would be greater than 50%.
    I just *loved* their top misspelled queries :)

    Beside, Zeitgeist means spirit of the age, not what they said.

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  206. Wait till they start to sell / charge for it. by Tricolor+Paulista · · Score: 2

    1. You can do fascinating stuff with the amount of data Google has.

    Sure, for instance giving "special edition" tables with, say, IP numbers on them, for bidders.

    Or maybe it's just that I woke up with the conspiracy bit on.

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  207. Re:Not Flamebait by janpod66 · · Score: 2

    Platform has nothing to do with it, but ownership and other business interests do. If Google were run by the company producing Windows XP and owning Passport, Hailstorm, and various on-line advertising bureaus, the company that tries to link all our digital information together, then, yes, it would be.

  208. Who? What? Huh? by Nurlman · · Score: 2

    If Google has millions of queries run each day, the competition must be pretty fierce to be one of the most popular.

    So how come I haven't heard of so much of this stuff? "Loft Story"? "Vicky Botwright"? "Ioana"?

    Maybe this is our new Dictionary of (Transitory) Cultural Literacy. God help us.

  209. Similar services by Ratbert42 · · Score: 2

    Yahoo! started offering a similar service several weeks ago (Yahoo! Buzz Index). Since they use Google, I suspect this is just Google's search data reformatted. I've watched it for a couple weeks now and seems semi-random.

    Yahoo! News also keeps track of the most e-mailed, most viewed, etc. stories and photos. I'm not sure this URL will work for everyone, but it's http://news.yahoo.com/h/mt/?u. To me this is more interesting than the Buzz Index. The most-emailed stories are usually News of the Weird stuff or Darwin Award nominees. The most e-mailed pictures are usually either the latest Brittany Spears/Jennifer Lopez cleavage shot, some cute fuzzy animals, or George W. looking at the Polish first lady's cleavage.

  210. We are almost there by ascii(64) · · Score: 2

    So now if we make i obligator to put down your gender before you submit we can finaly find out what women realy want. :) @

    1. Re:We are almost there by Webmonger · · Score: 3

      No, they we find out what women and men who pose as women really want!

  211. mo' money - no dedication by roxytheman · · Score: 2

    What is a bit dangerous with such stats, is that money-hungry people spew out websites that match the top keywords with crappy content and no dedication for the content at all, just to get hits and money...
    Ofcourse this is happening already, so you can't blame google for this...

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  212. In two thousand years.. by RumbaFlex · · Score: 2

    In two thousand years some archeologer and a techie will dig up this stuff from the debris of our culture, decipher it and laugh their ass off..

    What media sheep the humans are. Not that i'm any better i clicked the link, i saw the google zeitgeist.
    I'm a slut too../.

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  213. Because these aren't the top 10 queries. by Vermifax · · Score: 3

    They are the top 10 GAINING queries.

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  214. Not Flamebait by CodeMonky · · Score: 3

    If Google was running on windows instead of linux would the things we could do with the google search data be fascinating or would it be violating our right to search privately?

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  215. Re:It would be nice by wangi · · Score: 3
    You, my boy, are talking crap. They can and do record that information. For example if you search for Slashdot the link you get for Slashdot is:
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://sl ashdot.org/&e=875
    You can be sure the http://www.google.com/url script will be logging data before it redirects.

  216. Re:Adult searches rank so low? by Cujo · · Score: 3

    This is probably biased by the effect of porn surfers owning a large set of bookmarks for sites that all include links - why would they search Google?

    This is probably true of a lot of the "declining searches" as well. It doesn't mean the public's lost interest, but just that they found what they're looking for. It seems to me that the Google Zeitgeist can at best measure the rate of change of interest in new topics.

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  217. Heisenberg might have been here... by sysadmn · · Score: 3

    I wonder how much this list will affect future measurements? I know that when I saw "edonkey" on the Top 10 declining searches, I did a search to see what it was...

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  218. Re:Skewed results by Miles · · Score: 3

    Eh? Try the query "+to +be +or not +to +be", including the quotes. There's a reason that google spouts that stuff about 'to' and 'be' being fairly uninformative words.

    And if you take a look at some stat's (eg: http://www.searchenginewatch.com/reports/mediametr ix.html)
    you'll see that Google is steadily increasing in use (doubling in 5 months) whereas Altavista lost something like a third of its use in the same time.

  219. Since Google is a Search Engine by robbway · · Score: 3

    Couldn't they at least provide the queries to link to from their Top Ten lists? What's up with the rise and fall of the Carol Brady Maiden Name search? There must have been a Millionaire question or the like. I find the lists to be titillating to the point of frustration.

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  220. It would be nice by bmongar · · Score: 3

    It would be nice if they included the top 10 clicked links so we know who google directed to the most. Though maybe they don't collect that info. If they did it would also be interesting to see if their partners or premium customers or whatever had more clicks or not.

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  221. www.wordtracker.com by koogydelbbog · · Score: 3

    above site has a scrolling ticker showing the top 30 *unfiltered* search terms. some entries:

    1 sex
    2 mp3
    3 hotmail
    4 games
    5 cars
    6 yahoo
    7 music
    8 pokemon
    9 warez
    10 britney
    12 porn
    13 ebay
    18 napster
    20 free porn
    24 hotmail.com
    25 porno

    does anybody else find it odd that people search for yahoo? it's like looking up 'dictionary' in a dictionary.

    andy

  222. Shakespear in most mispelt list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4

    How can Google be sure? He spelt his name differently from time to time himself.

  223. Obvious omission... by Masem · · Score: 4
    They need a "Top X 'Naked Pictures' Celebrity Queries".

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  224. Re:Who? What? Huh? by Jethro73 · · Score: 4

    Because not every person searching is from the states. I know that "Loft Story" is a French reality TV show... You can see a picture of the winner here. She's pretty cute...

    Anyway, that might explain...

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  225. Top 10 misspelled... by morie · · Score: 4

    ... /. articles would be interesting as well

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  226. Adult searches rank so low? by Tet · · Score: 5

    To be honest, the only thing that really surprised me there was how small a percentage of queries were adult related. Wasn't that get rich quick porn guy telling us only the other day on slashdot that adult searches dominated the rankings?

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  227. Panicking Reactions Meet Net Instant Gratification by rizzo242 · · Score: 5

    Zeitgeist n. (zeit-geist): the general intellectual, moral, and cultural climate of an era.

    1. "OMG, Wimbledon is on! I wonder if somebody's tits have ever fallen out during a match?"

    2. "OMG, Paula Poundstone NO!! You're too funny to get stinky fingers from bubblegummers! Somebody please tell me it's not true!"

    3. "OMG, Jack Lemmon died!!!!! But, but...but he's not supposed to be DEAD! I bet I can find him still alive somewhere online."

    4. "OMG, I was going to fly out to meet Mr. goatse.cx! Surely the strike is over by now!?"

    5. "OMG, I bet if I searched for Barbara Schett she would have sex with me!"

    6. "OMG, Napster was shut down, wasn't it? Or was it! I want the new N-Sync single 'I wanna do it in your butt' on mp3!!! Where the hell is Napster???"

    7. "OMG, I love catch phrases sooooooo much!!!!"

    8. "OMG, people are racing bicycles again!!! There's no time for annual sales reports or gay pr0n when people are racing BICYCLES through le French countryside! C'est bon!"

    9. "OMG, I like basketball and I've inexplicably found cause to use Google for my search engine. I'm sure glad my nerdy friend told me why it's supposed to be better than AOL's Internet, but I sure do miss all the pr0n...anyway, maybe they'll finally draft me into the NBA if I look it up online. I coulda made it..."

    10. "OMG, Vicky Botwright is so awesome!!! Maybe she'll sleep with me if I look her up on the Internet. It is TOO a real sport, asshole! Squash has been around for EVER! PBBBBHT!!!!!"


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