Too late for that (fortunately) IBM, Sybase, Informix, Oracle, Sun, Netscape, Intel.... have all stepped up to the plate to commit to Linux. The tactic you suggest would have possibly worked a year ago. But not now (*giggle* *grin*)
I still adhere to the definition of OS as outlined the in dinasaur book.
It is the program that creates an interface that abstracts the hardware.
This is the kernel. It provides an interface for the GNU tools.
Incidentally, If I use loadlin and just boot the kernel and nothing else, have I used GNU tools? I honestly don't know and wish to know.
--- more importantly --
If Richard doesn't get off his high horse, his ego will keep people from listening to him. Richard could learn a lesson or two from Linus in this regard. Linus' ego requires a gemscope to see it. Whereas, Stallman's ego can be seen with the naked eye if it were in orbit.
Seeing people enjoy his work and effort is reward enough for Linus, Stallman --even though he deserves the credit-- will not rest until his name is in neon and thus, will never get it.
This will effect the name more than any other factor.
This is well written, and goes a good job of avoiding the emotional knee-jerk reactions of some people. I do subscribe to the logic presented. I for one adhere to the adage that an OS can be one solitary program. This was taken from the OS "dinasaur book"
More importantly, the GNU/Linux business makes as much sense to say X/Linux. The point is to tolerate Stallman's activism until the press understands the significance of hir real contribution.
Actually, the ORIGINAL design did not allow the word typewriter to be written with the top row. There were two keys transposed to make this happen, but I believe this change was made prior to 1900.
It's Linus' OS, we have kept him in charge of the kernel. If we think he sucks, he goes. He doesn't claim to be perfect. If we think he is no longer trustworthy, he'll step down.
Do you think this is worth having him step down for? If yes. Tell him yourself. If no. cork it!
I met one of the RedHat developers that used to work as a core developer for the Debian distribution. He said that the Debian (deb) packages were not properly designed. He also stated the fact that all other major distributions that use packages all use the rpm model, just Debian uses deb.
No, They earn their money, they don't steal it and hoard it. Unlike a Redmond Software company that shall remain almost nameless:^)
On a more thoughtful note....
I simply wanted to poke fun at the people who complain that RedHat does not operate they way they would personally run it. I have trouble with people who complain that RedHat does not adhere with there own personal decisions about how the distro should work.
I have been told, and sincerely believe that organizations do not and will not act like individual people. Those people who expect orgs to act like people are setting themselves up for frustration and disappointment.
RedHat is in the business of making OSes like any other commodity, like wool, steel, plywood, porkbellies....etc. They have been very good about focusing on their goal of trying to add value to the OS to help it gain acceptance. Every major announcement I have read from Mr. Young is consistent with this goal.
This is why I don't understand when people flame on, other than perhaps boredom. RedHat's credo is no secret. So when they make announcements and agreements that are congruent with the credo, why all the fuss? It should not come as any surprise.
That's what makes say "WTF?" to myself. It should not come as any surprise to anyone who has taken the time to find out what RedHat's primary business goal and business model is.
How is RedHat like M$? They allow you to download the distro for free. They release all the source code for everything they release. (Hence the unwillingness to Qt their distro) They have an errata page where you can get fixes as soon as the code has been released. They parter for service on the OS rather than the OS itself. They do not add "hooks" into the OS. They commodotize and legitimize the OS with big name recognition. They use industry standard protocols.
They are simply commercial. They are imperfect people, yeah they f*ck up. They admit it, unlike M$ who say its a user training issue.
If you think that they selling out because they are making partnerships to commodotize and legitimize Linux, then I'll have to say an extra rosary for you because there is simply no pleasing you. Your pasttime is whining and complaining about things you have no control over and can't grasp the fact that you'll simply have to deal with it.
Jesse says "Bet Lightly on Hot OS" says betting on it is like 100-1 says "people bet on the underdog. Many lost their shirts."
Tell me how "Linux is a Bad Bet" is an irrational summary of these statments.
Note: there is a limit as to keep the title brief.
He (I'm assuming) decided to summarize the article's content. I guess he wasn't up to your standard. Please forgive the erroneous error that has caused you grave harm and distress.
Their economy is in the crapper. I know. My father-in-law rus a business there. He lost money (well not really it's pseudo-guaranteed by te gov't) in that Bank that went belly-up last year.
The size of their bad debt is 10 times bigger than during the S&L crisis of the late 1980's in the US. And their GDP is less than half of the US.
Their current interest rate is less than 1% (For big corporate loans I think)
Japan Air Lines will be laying off thousands of workers in the next 3 years.
yes, that's right....layoffs in the "lifetime employment" society.
I think you need to get a magazine and read up, you're a little behind.
I'd choose Dickinson over Philadelphia...or even Elko for that matter.....
I'm still amazed that French folks think that language is static. There is a plethora of Latin in French...but somehow, they became French. God forbid that any English words get borrowed! Dumb! If there is a good idea, use it, not using it is so juvinile. If ideas are not borrowed and used, the language will suffer linguistic atrophy, if it hasn't already.
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One question, in what country is your soapbox that you preach from?
What liberties are you granted that exist where you are and not in the USA.
The Thinkpad 600's blue button behaves as a middle mouse button.
Yeah,
It's got a Javan Tiger on it (believed to be extinct, last seen in 1972)
Mark
"If you are the best then you will win. "
is unfortunately not always true.
If that were true the US would be metric. And I would have a Dvorak keyboard.
Too late for that (fortunately) IBM, Sybase, Informix, Oracle, Sun, Netscape, Intel.... have all stepped up to the plate to commit to Linux. The tactic you suggest would have possibly worked a year ago. But not now (*giggle* *grin*)
Cheers !
I still adhere to the definition of OS as outlined the in dinasaur book.
It is the program that creates an interface that abstracts the hardware.
This is the kernel. It provides an interface for the GNU tools.
Incidentally, If I use loadlin and just boot the kernel and nothing else, have I used GNU tools? I honestly don't know and wish to know.
--- more importantly --
If Richard doesn't get off his high horse, his ego will keep people from listening to him. Richard could learn a lesson or two from Linus in this regard. Linus' ego requires a gemscope to see it. Whereas, Stallman's ego can be seen with the naked eye if it were in orbit.
Seeing people enjoy his work and effort is reward enough for Linus, Stallman --even though he deserves the credit-- will not rest until his name is in neon and thus, will never get it.
This will effect the name more than any other factor.
This is well written, and goes a good job of avoiding the emotional knee-jerk reactions of some people. I do subscribe to the logic presented. I for one adhere to the adage that an OS can be one solitary program. This was taken from the OS "dinasaur book"
More importantly, the GNU/Linux business makes as much sense to say X/Linux. The point is to tolerate Stallman's activism until the press understands the significance of hir real contribution.
Actually, the ORIGINAL design did not allow the word typewriter to be written with the top row. There were two keys transposed to make this happen, but I believe this change was made prior to 1900.
:)
Cheers
I giggled to myself to see
http://www.anarchy.org
I thought the definition of anarchy was the absence of an organization.
I understand that the purest form of the definition may diverge from mine, but then it wouldn't have made be giggle.
I think the operative word is _buy_. Whereas with Linux, you simply need to "get" the OS.
Check out PolyGlot Emacs. It is outlined in the March and April Linux Journal.
:(
It looked pretty cool.
Part of the trouble is the font issue with X.
That would be pretty fscking funny.
:)
Especially because of the point you make..
I'm married
:)
'nuf said
'nuf said
Nice smile
I don't get it.
It's Linus' OS, we have kept him in charge of the kernel. If we think he sucks, he goes. He doesn't claim to be perfect. If we think he is no longer trustworthy, he'll step down.
Do you think this is worth having him step down for? If yes. Tell him yourself. If no. cork it!
I met one of the RedHat developers that used to work as a core developer for the Debian distribution. He said that the Debian (deb) packages were not properly designed. He also stated the fact that all other major distributions that use packages all use the rpm model, just Debian uses deb.
It was two years ago, that's all I remember.
but funny is not necessarily humorous :^)
Yup, :^)
No, They earn their money, they don't steal it and hoard it. Unlike a Redmond Software company that shall remain almost nameless :^)
On a more thoughtful note....
I simply wanted to poke fun at the people who complain that RedHat does not operate they way they would personally run it. I have trouble with people who complain that RedHat does not adhere with there own personal decisions about how the distro should work.
I have been told, and sincerely believe that organizations do not and will not act like individual people. Those people who expect orgs to act like people are setting themselves up for frustration and disappointment.
RedHat is in the business of making OSes like any other commodity, like wool, steel, plywood, porkbellies....etc. They have been very good about focusing on their goal of trying to add value to the OS to help it gain acceptance. Every major announcement I have read from Mr. Young is consistent with this goal.
This is why I don't understand when people flame on, other than perhaps boredom. RedHat's credo is no secret. So when they make announcements and agreements that are congruent with the credo, why all the fuss? It should not come as any surprise.
That's what makes say "WTF?" to myself. It should not come as any surprise to anyone who has taken the time to find out what RedHat's primary business goal and business model is.
Don't understand....
How is RedHat like M$?
They allow you to download the distro for free. They release all the source code for everything they release. (Hence the unwillingness to Qt their distro)
They have an errata page where you can get fixes as soon as the code has been released.
They parter for service on the OS rather than the OS itself.
They do not add "hooks" into the OS.
They commodotize and legitimize the OS with big name recognition.
They use industry standard protocols.
They are simply commercial. They are imperfect people, yeah they f*ck up. They admit it, unlike M$ who say its a user training issue.
If you think that they selling out because they are making partnerships to commodotize and legitimize Linux, then I'll have to say an extra rosary for you because there is simply no pleasing you. Your pasttime is whining and complaining about things you have no control over and can't grasp the fact that you'll simply have to deal with it.
Yup, I download it for free from those money grubbing assholes that are purely in it for the money that they are so greedily drooling for.
Jesse says
"Bet Lightly on Hot OS"
says betting on it is like 100-1
says "people bet on the underdog. Many lost their shirts."
Tell me how "Linux is a Bad Bet" is an irrational summary of these statments.
Note: there is a limit as to keep the title brief.
He (I'm assuming) decided to summarize the article's content. I guess he wasn't up to your standard. Please forgive the erroneous error that has caused you grave harm and distress.
Then...get over it!!!
Their economy is in the crapper. I know. My father-in-law rus a business there. He lost money (well not really it's pseudo-guaranteed by te gov't) in that Bank that went belly-up last year.
The size of their bad debt is 10 times bigger than during the S&L crisis of the late 1980's in the US. And their GDP is less than half of the US.
Their current interest rate is less than 1% (For big corporate loans I think)
Japan Air Lines will be laying off thousands of workers in the next 3 years.
yes, that's right....layoffs in the "lifetime employment" society.
I think you need to get a magazine and read up, you're a little behind.
It's so convienient so blame everything on the US. It makes it simple so that no thought is really required.
They chose their name, no emperial force coerced them to choose the name. They knew that to the casual observer it would appear to be a US company.
How 'bout ftp.xxxxx.co.ca ? Like they do in Nippon! It's easy; it simple; it's great; it's obvious; it's low fat; it's low cholesterol....
I may seem a little goofy, but it's knee-jerk quality it congruent with your comment.
My manager has a simple Axiom to turn to when people get wound up about something:
Get Over It!
I'm serious. He says this. It's funny after 20 seconds elapses.
I'd choose Dickinson over Philadelphia...or even Elko for that matter.....
I'm still amazed that French folks think that language is static. There is a plethora of Latin in French...but somehow, they became French. God forbid that any English words get borrowed! Dumb! If there is a good idea, use it, not using it is so juvinile. If ideas are not borrowed and used, the language will suffer linguistic atrophy, if it hasn't already.