I have a wonderful new IBM like that. Off EBay. Or, if you prefer, from pckeyboard.com. Also my wrist hurt from using a mouse, so I got this one http://store.yahoo.com/pckeyboards/onthestick.html ) (that has a trackpoint built-in. This is a serious keyboard.
Then I got my Thinkpad. Man, what a keyboard!
I wonder though, are Thinkpad keyboards spill-proof? Any experiences?
The dimension is predictability in time. You control exactly when power starts and stops going to the wheels. Even the tightest Japanese compact car automatic has noticable lag.
On a slightly related note, you can rock your car when it's stuck in snow without any harm to the transmission with a manual.
How about the feasibility of the Seattle monorail? In California you're at least talking about rail, and rail transportation's been around forever. Even urban rail has been there for many (100+?) years since the London Underground. But when you consider Seattle you have the problem that monorails aren't terribly popular or tried-and-tested for mass transportation, to add to every other argument you can have against mass or rail transit. I guess a monorail probably looks less cluttered than 2 steel rails, but I can't think how it can be safer, faster, more reliable, or cheaper than steel rail. For example, once you're done laying track, you can buy somewhat standard diesel multiple units from Siemens or Bombardier who have been making them for decades; and start making revenue. OTOH, who makes monorail cars for off the shelf purchase? Do we have mature monorail track switching? Do we have experience maintaining them under heavy loads? Can we get experienced manpower from iwthin the country? I'm sure these issues have been debated in Seattle, but has anyone heard any answers?
Quite a few things could go wrong. The stomach secretes enzymes (also HCl, IIRC from high school). They digest food while they are contained within the protective walls of the stomach, but they may well digest your mouth if they reach there somehow.
I guess a "liberal arts" major would be considered the quintessential "non-programmer". Certainly these people profess a non-concern for most technology, and of course, computing. I don't mean that they wouldn't know about Macs and PCs and Word, but we can agree that is a very superficial view of computing. But appreciating an article such as this "leaky abstractions" required some understanding of the way the networks work, even if there isn't any heavy math in it. In other words, the non-programmer wouldn't understand what the fuss is about.
But that isn't how it's supposed to be. Liberal arts people are supposed to be interested in precisely this kind of thing, because it takes a higher level view of something that is usually presented in a way that only a CS major would find interesting or useful, and generalizes an idea to be applicable beyond the specific subject, networking.
That is, engineers are today's liberal arts majors. It's time to get the so called "liberal arts" people out from politics, humanities, governance, management and other fields of importance because they just aren't trained to have or look for the conceptual basis of decision making and correctly apply it.
I guesss it'd be too much to expect the product of billions of years of evolution such as youeself to understand the contraction of "pace of evolution".
Apart from that, the other responses in this thread... - Apple gave Linux Darwin?!?? Really, which distro runs Darwin? - Rendezvous?!?? Clearly something so useful it isn't in dselect's 6000+ packages - OSX gives Linux credibility?!?? Linux,its developers, and support channels give Linux credibility. Don't see Apple among these.
Pretty weak, BTW, not responding to my major points in a substantial way.
Interesting that Apple and OSX are the antitheses of everything Linux. Not the same 1. Development model - obvious 2. Costs of buying - obvious 3. Target audience - Linux (and BSD?) has been about doing more with less - how to get over BIOS restrictions on old PCs, run enterprise-level systems on inexpensive hardware; Apple's been about people who will pay for glitz 4. Freedom - IBM, unlike Apple, is almost evangelizing Linux, they don't even hide behind euphemisms like 'open-source'. The motivation of free, or at least open source, software is as important to Linux software as the utility itself, Because given the former, the latter will soon follow. Apple? That little song and dance about their derivative license? Yeah, leech off free software. 5. Glitz - If we wanted glitz, we'd stick to Windows. But if we want 4 different journaling FS we know what OS to pick.
OSX gives some of what Linux's had all along. They'll find it hard to catch up with the evolutionary pace of Linux. But just the same, some people will pay extra for glitz, even if it means supporting a company that used UNIX to save itself and didn't even bother to give something back.
You mean the Linux program detects your graphics cards and configures them for multimonitor (same as Xinerama?) use, like, automatically? Even if you don't have a multihead card? Wow, I think there's just one Windows version (95, I think) that can do that. I mean, aren't things supposed to be hard to do in Linux? That's what the Windows and Mac people are saying on/.
Can you do multimonitor with multiple graphics cards on Macs?
Do the Linux and XFree people realize they're not supposed to make things easy and powerful?
*Back to serious mode* All this hokey-pokey's been done by X, years ago. Multimonitor, portable sessions, remote clients, graphical sessions over slow links, you name it. People should give the X Consortium a lot more credit than M$oft or Apple. I didn't have the xfreecfg but it took me only some Googling (Dejanews, back then) and a couple of tries correcting typos to get dual head on cheapo ATI cards from EBay. And that was about 3 years ago, when XFree86 was released.
"Judging by the whining of most Americans when the price of their fuel goes up about $0.0001/gallon, I wouldn't go that far."
The price of gasoline has gone up by way more than.0001, more like 30-40 cents and that above the steady increase since 1/2000. Not a peep from anyone. Time to retire this metaphor.
I agree that Thinkpads are awfully nice inside. I presume you mean the internals. They pretty easy to take apart (I've seem some that hinge apart!) and you're not forced to break little strategically placed plastic tabs while doing so. The web page even has the servicing guide online.
But I think they look nice from the outside too. You like a TiBook for its 'minimalism'. Thinkpads are equally so. You have the matte black rubber coating for safety and one logo in the corner. Ever see the top of an HPaq? Medallions and contrasting inserts and trim and such.
There isn't much debate about notebook keyboards. For long Thinkpad and Toshiba keyboards have been considered high watermarks of laptop keyboards. You can't have a low profile if you want some key travel which gives it a better feel. You need to slight clutter of mouse buttons because you have the trackpoint. Consumers are voting with their pocketbooks for trackpoints on Thinkpads, so they can't very well switch to a trackpad (notwithstanding the T30 combination-abortion).
I don't understand people who rip on Thinkpads. Sure the A series is a litle fat. But it's made for one market. For a lower cost than a TiBook you can buy a T-series. Nothing beats a T-series for looks. A TiBook is a nice looking notebook. But a TiBook isn't sexy. People are sexy. TiBooks are fads.
I was fine with dselect until I read your posting and tried synatpic. Wow. Do they have anything like it in the other distros? In the Windows world?
Maybe the reviewers should talk to a few people who use Debian before doing a blind review. Hmmm, maybe there should be a 'Getting Started with Debian'. Maybe there is.
-- begin quote As another poster said, a universal wall-wart replacement would be ideal for laptops and largeish devices, and standard formfactor batteries would be ideal for smaller devices. -- end quote
Check EBay for "universal" "laptop" "targus". Come with adapters for different laptops and cell phones. The device figures out the exact voltage your notebook/PDA/phone needs.
Now at Wal-mart you can buy real power supplies, they cost about $15, 1.5-12 v and 1000mA capacity. They called "digital" power adapters, and are bascally switching PS. No-load volts are about the same as on load. They're kinda noisy (RF-wise) so they come with huge toroids. Seem to last longer than your usual transformer molded into plastic type (sample size 2:). At Wal-mart, who would've thunk it?
You stupid fool, the people from Asia get high scores because the GRE is a simple test. Most Asians will get somewhat lower scrores in English, but still in the 90+ percentile. This is in spite of some not speaking English well, because the test is about written English and its comprehension. Do you comprehend this? Plus the Asians aren't stupid, they practice on the same old tests that are available to American and other students. Your friend is way off and you would do better to understand the situation before using her to support your bigotry.
Oh, and if you are applying to grad school, the GRE scores should be a big worry. It's a simple test, but it's simple for everybody, so you had better bust your ass to get good scores, otherwise they'll filter you out easily without having to work for your application fees.
My T series is made by IBM. Not GVC, Quanta, or whoever. IBM. Maybe here, maybe in Mexico, maybe in Taiwan or Korea. But it isn't a rebadged "oh, we designed it garbage."
Why stop at the trackpoint and 3 buttons? Add an IBM case with IBM engineering too. It won't shine like a cheap whore, but it'll have a subtle glitter embedded in the anti-slip rubber coating. It'll also have an unobstrusive night light. Memory will be cheap, peripherals will be user-swappable, and you'll be able to put bog standard Linux on it. And your money will go to a company that does everything from specialized software to fundamental research, not some self congratulatory Taiwanese notebook rebadger such as Apple.
In the same issue of Sci Am, there's a Toyota ad for a fuel cell car. IIRC, ETC was Jan 2003. Just like the hybrids; the Big 3 were still making noises about how good they're going to be, which Toyota was already selling the Prius.
XFree runs the prettiest desktops. Why would children be scared of that? Have you ever used a Linux machine? Not everyone needs the power of "find" and not everyone is forced to use it.
You can see that while libertarians on Slashdot are emulating good honest Republicans like Timothy McVeigh in print, the evil government has gone and given fiber optic to the people. I wonder why the wonderful free market system didn't get there first. Government actions such as this one, or the public works power generation in LA, deprive corporations of their right to gouge people for essential services and contribute the proceeds to the Republican party. Why, look how the government went and invented the Intenet and it is now free! The horror!
Note for Republicans: Libertarianism != Liberal, Libertairan = Ayn-Randian-nutjobs, Liberal = belief in democracy
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Everywhere you see, business get too greedy and screw up. Power generation, prisons, telephone service, education.. When an industry is successfu, 9 times out of then you know that government had to hand hold them up until they make the big money and then they do a Cheney in public and claim the govermnet had nothing to do with it, examples - the Internet, defence and space projects... Every libertarian and republican should realize this before more real people with real children get affected, like they did in NYC and Indiana...
I say sue the testing outfit to bankruptcy, let the stupid Bush (redundant) bankruptcy "reform" law do some good.
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Then I got my Thinkpad. Man, what a keyboard!
I wonder though, are Thinkpad keyboards spill-proof? Any experiences?
The dimension is predictability in time. You control exactly when power starts and stops going to the wheels. Even the tightest Japanese compact car automatic has noticable lag.
On a slightly related note, you can rock your car when it's stuck in snow without any harm to the transmission with a manual.
How about the feasibility of the Seattle monorail? In California you're at least talking about rail, and rail transportation's been around forever. Even urban rail has been there for many (100+?) years since the London Underground. But when you consider Seattle you have the problem that monorails aren't terribly popular or tried-and-tested for mass transportation, to add to every other argument you can have against mass or rail transit. I guess a monorail probably looks less cluttered than 2 steel rails, but I can't think how it can be safer, faster, more reliable, or cheaper than steel rail. For example, once you're done laying track, you can buy somewhat standard diesel multiple units from Siemens or Bombardier who have been making them for decades; and start making revenue. OTOH, who makes monorail cars for off the shelf purchase? Do we have mature monorail track switching? Do we have experience maintaining them under heavy loads? Can we get experienced manpower from iwthin the country? I'm sure these issues have been debated in Seattle, but has anyone heard any answers?
Quite a few things could go wrong. The stomach secretes enzymes (also HCl, IIRC from high school). They digest food while they are contained within the protective walls of the stomach, but they may well digest your mouth if they reach there somehow.
I guess a "liberal arts" major would be considered the quintessential "non-programmer". Certainly these people profess a non-concern for most technology, and of course, computing. I don't mean that they wouldn't know about Macs and PCs and Word, but we can agree that is a very superficial view of computing. But appreciating an article such as this "leaky abstractions" required some understanding of the way the networks work, even if there isn't any heavy math in it. In other words, the non-programmer wouldn't understand what the fuss is about.
But that isn't how it's supposed to be. Liberal arts people are supposed to be interested in precisely this kind of thing, because it takes a higher level view of something that is usually presented in a way that only a CS major would find interesting or useful, and generalizes an idea to be applicable beyond the specific subject, networking.
That is, engineers are today's liberal arts majors. It's time to get the so called "liberal arts" people out from politics, humanities, governance, management and other fields of importance because they just aren't trained to have or look for the conceptual basis of decision making and correctly apply it.
How precisely is the parent post offtopic?
I guesss it'd be too much to expect the product of billions of years of evolution such as youeself to understand the contraction of "pace of evolution".
Apart from that, the other responses in this thread...
- Apple gave Linux Darwin?!??
Really, which distro runs Darwin?
- Rendezvous?!??
Clearly something so useful it isn't in dselect's 6000+ packages
- OSX gives Linux credibility?!??
Linux,its developers, and support channels give Linux credibility. Don't see Apple among these.
Pretty weak, BTW, not responding to my major points in a substantial way.
Interesting that Apple and OSX are the antitheses of everything Linux. Not the same
1. Development model - obvious
2. Costs of buying - obvious
3. Target audience - Linux (and BSD?) has been about doing more with less - how to get over BIOS restrictions on old PCs, run enterprise-level systems on inexpensive hardware; Apple's been about people who will pay for glitz
4. Freedom - IBM, unlike Apple, is almost evangelizing Linux, they don't even hide behind euphemisms like 'open-source'. The motivation of free, or at least open source, software is as important to Linux software as the utility itself, Because given the former, the latter will soon follow. Apple? That little song and dance about their derivative license? Yeah, leech off free software.
5. Glitz - If we wanted glitz, we'd stick to Windows. But if we want 4 different journaling FS we know what OS to pick.
OSX gives some of what Linux's had all along. They'll find it hard to catch up with the evolutionary pace of Linux. But just the same, some people will pay extra for glitz, even if it means supporting a company that used UNIX to save itself and didn't even bother to give something back.
You mean the Linux program detects your graphics cards and configures them for multimonitor (same as Xinerama?) use, like, automatically? Even if you don't have a multihead card? Wow, I think there's just one Windows version (95, I think) that can do that. I mean, aren't things supposed to be hard to do in Linux? That's what the Windows and Mac people are saying on /.
Can you do multimonitor with multiple graphics cards on Macs?
Do the Linux and XFree people realize they're not supposed to make things easy and powerful?
*Back to serious mode*
All this hokey-pokey's been done by X, years ago. Multimonitor, portable sessions, remote clients, graphical sessions over slow links, you name it. People should give the X Consortium a lot more credit than M$oft or Apple. I didn't have the xfreecfg but it took me only some Googling (Dejanews, back then) and a couple of tries correcting typos to get dual head on cheapo ATI cards from EBay. And that was about 3 years ago, when XFree86 was released.
"Judging by the whining of most Americans when the price of their fuel goes up about $0.0001/gallon, I wouldn't go that far."
.0001, more like 30-40 cents and that above the steady increase since 1/2000. Not a peep from anyone. Time to retire this metaphor.
The price of gasoline has gone up by way more than
I agree that Thinkpads are awfully nice inside. I presume you mean the internals. They pretty easy to take apart (I've seem some that hinge apart!) and you're not forced to break little strategically placed plastic tabs while doing so. The web page even has the servicing guide online.
But I think they look nice from the outside too. You like a TiBook for its 'minimalism'. Thinkpads are equally so. You have the matte black rubber coating for safety and one logo in the corner. Ever see the top of an HPaq? Medallions and contrasting inserts and trim and such.
There isn't much debate about notebook keyboards. For long Thinkpad and Toshiba keyboards have been considered high watermarks of laptop keyboards. You can't have a low profile if you want some key travel which gives it a better feel. You need to slight clutter of mouse buttons because you have the trackpoint. Consumers are voting with their pocketbooks for trackpoints on Thinkpads, so they can't very well switch to a trackpad (notwithstanding the T30 combination-abortion).
I don't understand people who rip on Thinkpads. Sure the A series is a litle fat. But it's made for one market. For a lower cost than a TiBook you can buy a T-series. Nothing beats a T-series for looks. A TiBook is a nice looking notebook. But a TiBook isn't sexy. People are sexy. TiBooks are fads.
I was fine with dselect until I read your posting and tried synatpic. Wow. Do they have anything like it in the other distros? In the Windows world?
Maybe the reviewers should talk to a few people who use Debian before doing a blind review. Hmmm, maybe there should be a 'Getting Started with Debian'. Maybe there is.
-- begin quote
As another poster said, a universal wall-wart replacement would be ideal for laptops and largeish devices, and standard formfactor batteries would be ideal for smaller devices.
-- end quote
Check EBay for "universal" "laptop" "targus". Come with adapters for different laptops and cell phones. The device figures out the exact voltage your notebook/PDA/phone needs.
Now at Wal-mart you can buy real power supplies, they cost about $15, 1.5-12 v and 1000mA capacity. They called "digital" power adapters, and are bascally switching PS. No-load volts are about the same as on load. They're kinda noisy (RF-wise) so they come with huge toroids. Seem to last longer than your usual transformer molded into plastic type (sample size 2 :). At Wal-mart, who would've thunk it?
You stupid fool, the people from Asia get high scores because the GRE is a simple test. Most Asians will get somewhat lower scrores in English, but still in the 90+ percentile. This is in spite of some not speaking English well, because the test is about written English and its comprehension. Do you comprehend this? Plus the Asians aren't stupid, they practice on the same old tests that are available to American and other students. Your friend is way off and you would do better to understand the situation before using her to support your bigotry.
Oh, and if you are applying to grad school, the GRE scores should be a big worry. It's a simple test, but it's simple for everybody, so you had better bust your ass to get good scores, otherwise they'll filter you out easily without having to work for your application fees.
My T series is made by IBM. Not GVC, Quanta, or whoever. IBM. Maybe here, maybe in Mexico, maybe in Taiwan or Korea. But it isn't a rebadged "oh, we designed it garbage."
Quanta and Acer.
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http://www.tradeport.org/ts/countries/taiwan/is
Taiwanese manufacturers make great stuff, of course, but I bet it sticks in the craw for those who bought into "Think Different."
Why stop at the trackpoint and 3 buttons? Add an IBM case with IBM engineering too. It won't shine like a cheap whore, but it'll have a subtle glitter embedded in the anti-slip rubber coating. It'll also have an unobstrusive night light. Memory will be cheap, peripherals will be user-swappable, and you'll be able to put bog standard Linux on it. And your money will go to a company that does everything from specialized software to fundamental research, not some self congratulatory Taiwanese notebook rebadger such as Apple.
In the same issue of Sci Am, there's a Toyota ad for a fuel cell car. IIRC, ETC was Jan 2003. Just like the hybrids; the Big 3 were still making noises about how good they're going to be, which Toyota was already selling the Prius.
I am not clear on why you are having a problem with taxes paying for education. Taxes are only an issue if you earn something you know.
XFree runs the prettiest desktops. Why would children be scared of that? Have you ever used a Linux machine? Not everyone needs the power of "find" and not everyone is forced to use it.
Damn GUIs. Always getting in the way of real work. You want a GUI? Move your program to cgi-bin.
You can see that while libertarians on Slashdot are emulating good honest Republicans like Timothy McVeigh in print, the evil government has gone and given fiber optic to the people. I wonder why the wonderful free market system didn't get there first. Government actions such as this one, or the public works power generation in LA, deprive corporations of their right to gouge people for essential services and contribute the proceeds to the Republican party. Why, look how the government went and invented the Intenet and it is now free! The horror!
Note for Republicans: Libertarianism != Liberal, Libertairan = Ayn-Randian-nutjobs, Liberal = belief in democracy
Everywhere you see, business get too greedy and screw up. Power generation, prisons, telephone service, education.. When an industry is successfu, 9 times out of then you know that government had to hand hold them up until they make the big money and then they do a Cheney in public and claim the govermnet had nothing to do with it, examples - the Internet, defence and space projects... Every libertarian and republican should realize this before more real people with real children get affected, like they did in NYC and Indiana...
I say sue the testing outfit to bankruptcy, let the stupid Bush (redundant) bankruptcy "reform" law do some good.
So, you're saying, the Major King character of yours listens to Rush Limbaugh religiously, just like the rest of the Slashdotters?