Having just had a "doh"-moment, I'll reply to my own post. They are obviously not using the water from the very top ocean layers. The temperatures near the seabed are probably much more steady throughout the year and will certainly not be 18+ during nice summer days.
Granted, Norwegian summers hardly last all year, but sea temperatures are not a steady 8 degrees throughout the year as the article seems to imply. People can and do bathe in the ocean in southern Norway during the summer and temperatures can reach 18+ degrees in the water. 8 degrees is probably the average, but a "steady supply of water at 8 degrees C" seems somewhat misleading.
Am I missing something here or is this simply normal overselling?
By all means, petition them in terms of freedom of speech, cost or restricting innovation, arguing that "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through" will simply make them tighten their grip further.
Yes. But it isn't my star system the grip is on. I don't live in the land of the 'free'.
Neither do I, but besides the fact that I do not wish SOPA on our American friends, there is always a chance we might be next.
"So here's some proof that I hope will help them err on the side of reason and vote SOPA down"
Eh... no. If the war against drugs/piracy/terrorism has taught us anything, it is that if the law makers were made to understand that it won't work, they would just try more draconian measures.
By all means, petition them in terms of freedom of speech, cost or restricting innovation, arguing that "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through" will simply make them tighten their grip further.
"Why is anyone surprised? A pledge, not backed up by, say, a money-back guarantee, is meaningless. If these people could get a refund for their phones if they weren't updated, the "pledge" would have teeth. "
Truth in advertisement. It is the law. You could demand your money back or take them to small claims court. On the other hand, if your country of origin doesn't have proper consumer laws you could campaign for them or give up.
"Seriously? That's the only way to evaluate? You can't think of a single other way?"
I take umbrage with this sort of response. Your whole purpose is trying to make the parent look stupid, without any sort of constructive input of your own.
By all means, if you know how to perform the job of 10 middle managers with just one top level manager without using metrics, please tell us, otherwise I'm calling your bluff. The parent poster's whole point is that you need hands on management to do proper evaluations. They need to observe you, talk to you, critically evaluate your work, etc. A single top level manager, managing 100 employees can't do that, and if you try to ask the other employees, most decent ones tend to not want to sell out their co-workers.
Metrics was invented for this exact purpose. But a number based on some work stats can't replace critical evaluation.
It is so very typical that a post that essentially refers to a considerable portion of electronics consumers as idiots who's opinions are worthless, gets modded up on Slashdot. This is a childish post and childish moderation. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Apple, but when it comes to their products, many Apple customers know full well what the competition is like and what limitations the Apple products have and still prefer them, for reasons separate from marketing and shininess-factor.
For many people, Apple products are still the most convenient solution. Convenience is very high on my priority list. If you prefer Android phones, Blackberries or Nokia smart phones, that is your choice, they may be a much better fit for yourself.
Ok... analogy time. What if someone decided to read and memorise the entire contents of the Harry Potter series, so that they could provide you with the service of answering any question related to Harry Potter and settle any pub arguments about it.
Would this be a breach of copyright?
Then, what if this turned out too difficult. So the same guy wrote a massive index in his notebook, which he allowed nobody to see, but he referred to it every time someone had a question?
Would this be a breach of copyright?
What Google is doing is pretty much exactly the second thing, just "using computers" and "on the tinterweb".
During my University years, I copied large parts of my text books (which I had bought) into cutdown versions of what I thought important. I never distributed these copies and they are purely for my own use. Did I breach copyright?
Look. You need to check your facts before you appear even more stupid than you already look. The 486 processors from Intel had more than 1 million transistors when introduced in 1989. Do you REALLY think we've only increased the transistor count by 20% in 22 years? Moore's law would suggest that the number of transistors should increase by a factor of 2^22 ~ 4 million during this time, giving us 4 billion transistors. We seem a little short of this, but processors have definitely reached the 1 billion mark.
Looking at it in terms of density, the 486 debuted with a 1 micrometer process (1000 nm). Bulldozer uses a 32 nanometer process. Roughly speaking this should allow 1000^2 / 32^2 ~ 1 thousand times more transistors. No matter how you look at it, 1 billion+ transistors is about right.
You are looking at this in the completely wrong way. You are assuming (wrongly) that current processors have 1 million transistors and trying to work backwards using that false assumption. If you are still in doubt, I would suggest calculating how large a real CPU with 2 million transistors at 32nm process would be. Hint: you would perhaps be able to see it with a magnifying glass, so lining up 31.6x31.6 of those on one 1cm^2 die seems the right ballpark to me.
"I'll be a complete computer snob here... iMac, iPod, iPad, iChat are all for people who are iChallenged"
No. You are just somewhat childish. I know, I used to think Windows users were morons when I was 18 and had just discovered Linux and FreeBSD.
I slowly started to realise that not everyone were as interested in compiling their own kernel to get better performance. I then got a job, a wife, a mortgage and a child. Now I hardly have time to switch on a computer in my spare time.
These are the kind of people that iProducts appeal to. Things that are limited in functionality but do what we want, quickly and easily. No fuss. If they lack DivX playback or doesn't have a card slot, we rarely care.
"DRAM storage is fine until power runs out. Even that i-RAM only lasts for ~16 hours on battery. If you work 8 hours a day, don't ever be late. And don't take weekends off."
I see your point, but surely if you're administrating anything important, you should get automatic messages if something goes wrong, meaning you have to interrupt your weekend or your evening to go fix the problem right now, not wait until the next morning / Monday.
"The phone is so intrusive, it's like the person doing the calling has no care about what the person being called is doing, they think they are the most important thing ever and you should be sitting there just waiting for their call. Telephoning somebody, to me, is like walking up and interrupting the other party when they are in a conversation with somebody else."
Sometimes though, your call IS important enough to interrupt a conversation with somebody else. In this case it makes absolutely no sense to send an email and wait for a reply at your convenience.
"Its better that it got out and fixes are prepared."
There are many, many ways for letting people who need to know this information get this information without publishing it in open access journals. I'm pretty sure the people that need to know in order to prepare "fixes" already know. After all, who are these "researchers and experts in bioterrorism" who are debateing whether it is a good idea to publish the virus creation 'recipe'?
As I said in a reply to a different poster. Just because world class biologists know how to create a virus on the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it scale, doesn't mean that any lunatic terrorist organisations (that explicitly deny the theory of evolution) knows it and if not telling them can delay the time it takes for them to find out on their own, then all the better.
When it comes to physical security, where failed attempts to breach it will very obviously get you arrested, any security at all will deter loads of potential attackers.
In this case, just because some world class biologists can produce a deadly virus on the end-of-the-world scale, doesn't mean that any lunatic terrorist organisations know how to do it (*). At the very least let us delay the time it takes for them to create one, in the hope that we may have a better defence when that time comes around.
Not publishing this work is the exact right thing to do and I'm pretty glad that the Slashdot "information wants to be free" herd-mentality doesn't decide this.
(*) Especially ones that explicitly deny the theory of evolution.
"I think I had at least some idea of what it would be like to be 40 when I was younger, I looked at my mother, father, aunts and uncles and their friends, and read books or watched TV and films about forty year olds. "
None of which gives you first hand knowledge. Your mother, father, aunts and uncles will never be fully honest about it and the books/movies will have an angle to make them interesting, which invalidates them as evidence.
"You might as well say that no forty year old knows what it is like to be sixty."
"But most people on slashdot would see these as being evil socialist restrictions of freedom of trade anyway. At some point you have to take sides, if you want a libertarian free-for-all don't be surprised if people see you as being on the side of big business and capitalism."
Absolutely. But then, I'm not personally a libertarian.
"There are for example rumours that the Irish government's draft budget was found in offices in the Bundestag before it was presented to their own TDs for consideration."
This may well be true, but if you are arguing based on rumour, you have already lost IMHO.
I'm a firm believer that if you are good enough, you are old enough. However, it is a fact that people in their 20s have no idea what it is like being 40, while the reverse is only partially true. I can only speak for myself, but I know that I believed myself quite mature when I was 24, and now I know for a fact that I wasn't.
Having said that, there is no particular reason why some exceptional 24-year-olds can't be mature enough. After all, it isn't like all 40-year-olds MPs are good enough.
"I'd sooner be an ostrich than some squawking hen who makes a big noise when the fox is outside the coop but is fast asleep when she's strung up on a conveyer belt to have her neck cut and be diced into nuggets."
A very nice metaphor, but sadly also a straw man. The parent has only suggested that you keep your eyes open during both good and bad times, albeit with some hyperbole thrown in. It is considerably easier to get rights-restricting laws passed during mean times, as seen in the current effort to reduce labour laws in the UK.
If you're in favour of this, fine, but if you're not, you need to keep your eyes open.
"Sometimes I wonder, are some people really so utterly stupid as to believe that a few overblown anomalies that get plastered all over the news for their high sell value are actually norm, and the myriad of normal actions taken by government that have no news value because they do exactly or close to exactly what they are supposed to do are anomalies."
Many people have a vested interest in believing everything the government does is bad. It helps prop up their anti-tax anti-regulations beliefs and helps them justify privatisation of everything and removal of all social benefits.
After all, if everything the government does is bad, it is pointless giving them any money at all, and any money spent by the government is a waste.
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Having just had a "doh"-moment, I'll reply to my own post. They are obviously not using the water from the very top ocean layers. The temperatures near the seabed are probably much more steady throughout the year and will certainly not be 18+ during nice summer days.
Granted, Norwegian summers hardly last all year, but sea temperatures are not a steady 8 degrees throughout the year as the article seems to imply. People can and do bathe in the ocean in southern Norway during the summer and temperatures can reach 18+ degrees in the water. 8 degrees is probably the average, but a "steady supply of water at 8 degrees C" seems somewhat misleading.
Am I missing something here or is this simply normal overselling?
By all means, petition them in terms of freedom of speech, cost or restricting innovation, arguing that "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through" will simply make them tighten their grip further.
Yes. But it isn't my star system the grip is on. I don't live in the land of the 'free'.
Neither do I, but besides the fact that I do not wish SOPA on our American friends, there is always a chance we might be next.
"So here's some proof that I hope will help them err on the side of reason and vote SOPA down"
Eh... no. If the war against drugs/piracy/terrorism has taught us anything, it is that if the law makers were made to understand that it won't work, they would just try more draconian measures.
By all means, petition them in terms of freedom of speech, cost or restricting innovation, arguing that "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through" will simply make them tighten their grip further.
"Why is anyone surprised? A pledge, not backed up by, say, a money-back guarantee, is meaningless. If these people could get a refund for their phones if they weren't updated, the "pledge" would have teeth. "
Truth in advertisement. It is the law. You could demand your money back or take them to small claims court. On the other hand, if your country of origin doesn't have proper consumer laws you could campaign for them or give up.
"Seriously? That's the only way to evaluate? You can't think of a single other way?"
I take umbrage with this sort of response. Your whole purpose is trying to make the parent look stupid, without any sort of constructive input of your own.
By all means, if you know how to perform the job of 10 middle managers with just one top level manager without using metrics, please tell us, otherwise I'm calling your bluff. The parent poster's whole point is that you need hands on management to do proper evaluations. They need to observe you, talk to you, critically evaluate your work, etc. A single top level manager, managing 100 employees can't do that, and if you try to ask the other employees, most decent ones tend to not want to sell out their co-workers.
Metrics was invented for this exact purpose. But a number based on some work stats can't replace critical evaluation.
It is so very typical that a post that essentially refers to a considerable portion of electronics consumers as idiots who's opinions are worthless, gets modded up on Slashdot. This is a childish post and childish moderation. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Apple, but when it comes to their products, many Apple customers know full well what the competition is like and what limitations the Apple products have and still prefer them, for reasons separate from marketing and shininess-factor.
For many people, Apple products are still the most convenient solution. Convenience is very high on my priority list. If you prefer Android phones, Blackberries or Nokia smart phones, that is your choice, they may be a much better fit for yourself.
Ok... analogy time. What if someone decided to read and memorise the entire contents of the Harry Potter series, so that they could provide you with the service of answering any question related to Harry Potter and settle any pub arguments about it.
Would this be a breach of copyright?
Then, what if this turned out too difficult. So the same guy wrote a massive index in his notebook, which he allowed nobody to see, but he referred to it every time someone had a question?
Would this be a breach of copyright?
What Google is doing is pretty much exactly the second thing, just "using computers" and "on the tinterweb".
During my University years, I copied large parts of my text books (which I had bought) into cutdown versions of what I thought important. I never distributed these copies and they are purely for my own use. Did I breach copyright?
Blu-ray player, TV, set top box, games console and surround sound box.
A whole mess of cables and remotes and my Logitech harmony remote is doing a poor job of managing it all, but otherwise I'd have 5 remotes.
I'd welcome a TV that made all the other boxes obsolete.
Look. You need to check your facts before you appear even more stupid than you already look. The 486 processors from Intel had more than 1 million transistors when introduced in 1989. Do you REALLY think we've only increased the transistor count by 20% in 22 years? Moore's law would suggest that the number of transistors should increase by a factor of 2^22 ~ 4 million during this time, giving us 4 billion transistors. We seem a little short of this, but processors have definitely reached the 1 billion mark.
Looking at it in terms of density, the 486 debuted with a 1 micrometer process (1000 nm). Bulldozer uses a 32 nanometer process. Roughly speaking this should allow 1000^2 / 32^2 ~ 1 thousand times more transistors. No matter how you look at it, 1 billion+ transistors is about right.
You are looking at this in the completely wrong way. You are assuming (wrongly) that current processors have 1 million transistors and trying to work backwards using that false assumption. If you are still in doubt, I would suggest calculating how large a real CPU with 2 million transistors at 32nm process would be. Hint: you would perhaps be able to see it with a magnifying glass, so lining up 31.6x31.6 of those on one 1cm^2 die seems the right ballpark to me.
"I'll be a complete computer snob here... iMac, iPod, iPad, iChat are all for people who are iChallenged"
No. You are just somewhat childish. I know, I used to think Windows users were morons when I was 18 and had just discovered Linux and FreeBSD.
I slowly started to realise that not everyone were as interested in compiling their own kernel to get better performance. I then got a job, a wife, a mortgage and a child. Now I hardly have time to switch on a computer in my spare time.
These are the kind of people that iProducts appeal to. Things that are limited in functionality but do what we want, quickly and easily. No fuss. If they lack DivX playback or doesn't have a card slot, we rarely care.
"DRAM storage is fine until power runs out.
Even that i-RAM only lasts for ~16 hours on battery.
If you work 8 hours a day, don't ever be late. And don't take weekends off."
I see your point, but surely if you're administrating anything important, you should get automatic messages if something goes wrong, meaning you have to interrupt your weekend or your evening to go fix the problem right now, not wait until the next morning / Monday.
"The phone is so intrusive, it's like the person doing the calling has no care about what the person being called is doing, they think they are the most important thing ever and you should be sitting there just waiting for their call. Telephoning somebody, to me, is like walking up and interrupting the other party when they are in a conversation with somebody else."
Sometimes though, your call IS important enough to interrupt a conversation with somebody else. In this case it makes absolutely no sense to send an email and wait for a reply at your convenience.
"Its better that it got out and fixes are prepared."
There are many, many ways for letting people who need to know this information get this information without publishing it in open access journals. I'm pretty sure the people that need to know in order to prepare "fixes" already know. After all, who are these "researchers and experts in bioterrorism" who are debateing whether it is a good idea to publish the virus creation 'recipe'?
As I said in a reply to a different poster. Just because world class biologists know how to create a virus on the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it scale, doesn't mean that any lunatic terrorist organisations (that explicitly deny the theory of evolution) knows it and if not telling them can delay the time it takes for them to find out on their own, then all the better.
When it comes to physical security, where failed attempts to breach it will very obviously get you arrested, any security at all will deter loads of potential attackers.
In this case, just because some world class biologists can produce a deadly virus on the end-of-the-world scale, doesn't mean that any lunatic terrorist organisations know how to do it (*). At the very least let us delay the time it takes for them to create one, in the hope that we may have a better defence when that time comes around.
Not publishing this work is the exact right thing to do and I'm pretty glad that the Slashdot "information wants to be free" herd-mentality doesn't decide this.
(*) Especially ones that explicitly deny the theory of evolution.
"it is our network"
No, it is not. It is the company's network and the only reason that network exists is to allow your users to do their jobs.
You may have a role as gatekeepers, but the network is not yours and you thinking it is, is part of the problem here. The other part is moronic users.
I had a 486sx. It may technically have had an FPU on the die, but it was defective and disabled.
"I think I had at least some idea of what it would be like to be 40 when I was younger, I looked at my mother, father, aunts and uncles and their friends, and read books or watched TV and films about forty year olds. "
None of which gives you first hand knowledge. Your mother, father, aunts and uncles will never be fully honest about it and the books/movies will have an angle to make them interesting, which invalidates them as evidence.
"You might as well say that no forty year old knows what it is like to be sixty."
That is exactly what I am saying.
"But most people on slashdot would see these as being evil socialist restrictions of freedom of trade anyway. At some point you have to take sides, if you want a libertarian free-for-all don't be surprised if people see you as being on the side of big business and capitalism."
Absolutely. But then, I'm not personally a libertarian.
"There are for example rumours that the Irish government's draft budget was found in offices in the Bundestag before it was presented to their own TDs for consideration."
This may well be true, but if you are arguing based on rumour, you have already lost IMHO.
"With an attitude like that, no wonder."
I'm a firm believer that if you are good enough, you are old enough. However, it is a fact that people in their 20s have no idea what it is like being 40, while the reverse is only partially true. I can only speak for myself, but I know that I believed myself quite mature when I was 24, and now I know for a fact that I wasn't.
Having said that, there is no particular reason why some exceptional 24-year-olds can't be mature enough. After all, it isn't like all 40-year-olds MPs are good enough.
"I'd sooner be an ostrich than some squawking hen who makes a big noise when the fox is outside the coop but is fast asleep when she's strung up on a conveyer belt to have her neck cut and be diced into nuggets."
A very nice metaphor, but sadly also a straw man. The parent has only suggested that you keep your eyes open during both good and bad times, albeit with some hyperbole thrown in. It is considerably easier to get rights-restricting laws passed during mean times, as seen in the current effort to reduce labour laws in the UK.
If you're in favour of this, fine, but if you're not, you need to keep your eyes open.
At the same time they release a directive that includes optional web censoring. For the sake of our children, of course!
Look, you may have a point about the directive, but you're trying hard to ruin it with that word optional.
"by which I mean the public's tax dollars"
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
"Sometimes I wonder, are some people really so utterly stupid as to believe that a few overblown anomalies that get plastered all over the news for their high sell value are actually norm, and the myriad of normal actions taken by government that have no news value because they do exactly or close to exactly what they are supposed to do are anomalies."
Many people have a vested interest in believing everything the government does is bad. It helps prop up their anti-tax anti-regulations beliefs and helps them justify privatisation of everything and removal of all social benefits.
After all, if everything the government does is bad, it is pointless giving them any money at all, and any money spent by the government is a waste.