Don't worry though. Even though the pilots refused to fly and were risking court marshals, the Air Force "grounded" the plans for a week to investigate and found "no issues" and resumed flights.
Black shit in your lungs is normal according to the fully respectable Air Force. Especially when the military-industrial-complex desires a larger budget.
You really think Slashdot is still full of intelligent people and not mindless drone posts? Have you ever looked at an archived shot of how amazing this place used to be ten years ago?
When was the last time you saw an actual industry expert like John Carmack chime in on a post here?
Yeah. Exactly.
In case you didn't know, he (and many experts) used to.
TL;DR Basically, if you think you had an expectation of privacy to begin with, you're pretty much an idiot.
Everyone else already knows who you are (see Facebook tracking people WITHOUT facebook accounts!), the people who are trying to stop criminals aren't magically the bad guys--any worse than the corporations who keep and sell your info in the first place.
You can't leak data that was never gathered. You want privacy, use a service that's actually designed for privacy.
You want a public forum? You're going to be... in a public forum. With no expectation of privacy.
We can argue about how it should be in a "perfect world", but in the real world, that's the tradeoff. You either get massive exposure on Twitter, or, communicate with a tight-knit group on something actually secure like Tor, Signal, etc.
"How dare someone know the things I said in public!" As if telling someone to kill their self on Twitter is some kind of sacred, protected right. (And dear God, is Twitter a big bucket of hatred.)
They grab your info all the time for alleged copyright infringement. They're engaging in a public forum where literally anyone can read what they said--and that's the entire purpose of the medium. It's the electronic equivalent of speaking at full volume on a sidewalk. What expectation of privacy did they really have?
I really don't see a problem with "requesting" information. The police can request your info from your phone calls, your bank account, and tons of other things _for the purpose of solving crimes_. And here, it's even less bad, because requesting doesn't mean they're snooping through and finding your new secrets (like password protected data). It's merely validating WHO said WHAT. Whether a crime has been committed is an orthogonal issue.
That is to say, I can call whoever I want and police can get my info in the process of investigating crimes. However, what is a CRIME or NOT is whether or not I used that phone to call in a bomb threat. The BOMB THREAT is the crime, whether it's over Twitter (and many have been!), a sidewalk, or a phone.
The only reason people are actually caring (which they didn't when the last president was in office--Google that shit), is because... of "evil Trump."... Even though it's the same Department of Justice and the DoJ has constantly butted heads with and leaked info about Trump. But simply a new guy as President, and somehow, all the previously "acceptable" actions of federal investigators are all now suspect. As if he has the power to force an entire agency to magically turn corrupt overnight and every employee has no free will or agency.
Out of all the scary, dragnet, evil overlord stuff that's come since the Snowden leaks. The cops merely being able to confirm that I said what I DID say (when that info was ALWAYS available to advertisers, corporations, and hackers) is the least of my worries. That's a huge leap away from thermally or x-ray scanning you inside your house, or hijacking your cellphone tower to READ YOUR PRIVATE TEXTS (all of which they've done doing).
I had the EXACT same thing happen with a docking station that worked fine for 3+ years then an iOS update and all a sudden "this device is incompatible with your iphone and may damage the device".
I strongly believe that our nation's justice departments and congress have completely collapsed. (Read: regulatory capture)
When Enron collapsed, love or hate him, Bush Jr.'s DOJ threw their management in jail. They didn't care about effects on "the economy" or "jobs" or anything. They tossed those sum-bitches in jail.
Meanwhile, GM makes cars that kill teenagers, nothing happens. Wall Street single-handedly PUTS US INTO A RECESSION (that could have become a full on depression) and none of them go to jail. Thanks, Eric Holder! Speaking of Holder, his department SENDS GUNS TO MEXICAN DRUG DEALERS that we know for a fact were used to murder a US border agent (and possibly countless Mexicans) and NO ONE GOES TO JAIL.
Forget "cops being above the law", you want to be above the law, just pay the $49 fee to incorporate. No need to spend time getting in shape and going through the academy.
If we were talking about terrorism, people here would NOT be for banning all Muslims. It's not the good Muslims fault the bad ones are blowing people up.
But guns? All a sudden the logic is reversed and it's okay to take them away from innocents. Unless they're Muslim, then once again it's racist.
I'd find it easy to vote for a party if they could pick a fucking stance and stick with it.
I love how you feel, but I think on a practical level that's impossible. LONGER, sure. But 20-30 years is impossible:
Most companies that write the software we use don't even last 30 years. Who takes it over after they die? Even Chrysler and GM tried to weasel out of their warranty claims and "killed by daughter" ignition switch lawsuits by saying "that was the old version of the company!...even though we still make the exact same car..."/scumbags
And what kind of support are you talking about? Software or hardware? 30 years ago (almost to the DAY), my Compaq Portable was built. It weighs ~40 lbs, and has an 8088 CPU. Are you suggesting someone from Compaq should show up at my door with the new 8-bit ISA floppy driver card I need?
And the thing is, I actually AGREE that "significant SaaS services" should be regulated by law as utilities. What happens when Steam, Facebook, Twitter, World of Warcraft, etc go out of business or are bought out? What happens to all that content of yours that you legally owned up until the point the company changed hands? What happens when the servers get shut down? The people should have the right to either 1) get all their data before the servers close, and 2) build a replacement service (open source API's?) if the dying company or new owner refuses to build a comparable product to continue existing users. The web is getting more and more integral to our lives and yet software companies go tits up just about as often as they used to. What happens in the future when all of your work is through web apps (like Google Docs) and they go away or simply remove their old product?
Now, reasonable companies keep their consumers happy by helping them migrate. But that's a RARE quality. And companies that are going out of business give two craps about their consumers. Their company is dying, they have "more important [to them]" things to worry about. But while companies like GOG have stated openly they'll help everyone get their data in case of a buyout/closing, do you think all those scumbags at Universal, Sony Pictures, and other record companies, would care equally about consumers? Inbetween infecting all their CDs with rootkits, somehow, I don't think they'd give a shit.
SaaS is ticking time bomb (like data breaches we're finally getting congress to care about) and current legislation / regulation / corporate-culture is doing nothing to stop the train from barreling down the tracks toward the missing bridge. Once one big ticket company falls, we HOPE, everything will change. But whose data (and money!) is gonna be lost before that happens? Wait a couple more years while the world rotates the jack-in-the-box another few turns.
I think the point is that the UPGRADE has been either so expensive, or so fault-ridden that nobody is doing it in practice. ala "If it works, don't fix it."
But, I don't know the entire corporate/political environment. Could it be a bunch of lazy companies? Maybe. Could it be the Linux foundation has no power so they're doing this because they feel screwed? Maybe... but I'd really need more data and insight into this matter before I can really condemn any party in this scenario.
...because CRM 2013 and later use a bogged-down piece of junk web interface that 1) expects you to have a touch screen (what.) and 2) actually manages to corrupt itself if you press the BACK BUTTON because IE caches urls... urls which include a temporary session key that expires, leaving tons of our clients wondering why their product magically stops working. The same thing happens with refresh.
The Microsoft solution? They say "hitting back/refresh button is not supported." Yeah, that's right. Microsoft has decided that an entire feature of the internet and 99% of users intuitively use without thinking... leads to a broken system until you manually clear the cache.
And as anyone in IT can attest: It's super easy to get hundreds of salespeople to modify their behavior! Especially when you give them a convenient "break my app" button at the top of their app.
I'd be laughing if I wasn't so sad at the number of stories like this I have related to supporting Microsoft products.
Yeah, these threads always attract large amounts of vocal idiots. People who assume "their way" is "the best way" and yet they've never actually spent _significant_ time using both languages.
To everyone else, the answer is obvious, so they don't feel the need to comment. Static languages exist BECAUSE they solve a myriad of types of bugs. Dynamic languages exist because they're easier to rapidly develop--but they fall apart at medium-to-large scale projects. And there are probably dozens more tradeoffs.
"Right tool for the job" basically sums up the answer to the entire comment section.
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Damn, I felt that burn through my keyboard.
You should honestly feel proud of that zinger. I applaud you, regardless of the topic's/argument's validity.
Where's the contractor money in REFURBISHING when you can MAKE A NEW ONE?!
Devil's Advocate: That said, the Space Shuttle lasted for much longer than originally planned/designed.
They're already in service... and putting black tar in pilots lungs.
https://www.wired.com/2013/02/...
Don't worry though. Even though the pilots refused to fly and were risking court marshals, the Air Force "grounded" the plans for a week to investigate and found "no issues" and resumed flights.
Black shit in your lungs is normal according to the fully respectable Air Force. Especially when the military-industrial-complex desires a larger budget.
Uhhh... by your logic doesn't that mean ALL HELICOPTERS ARE DEATHTRAPS?
Do we still fly helicopters? Yes.
So what's an A-10 got that's so extra dangerous, that on a helicopter is somehow acceptable?
And don't try and say "they're used for transport so they take that risk" because the Apache is still flying today.
You really think Slashdot is still full of intelligent people and not mindless drone posts? Have you ever looked at an archived shot of how amazing this place used to be ten years ago?
When was the last time you saw an actual industry expert like John Carmack chime in on a post here?
Yeah. Exactly.
In case you didn't know, he (and many experts) used to.
TL;DR Basically, if you think you had an expectation of privacy to begin with, you're pretty much an idiot.
Everyone else already knows who you are (see Facebook tracking people WITHOUT facebook accounts!), the people who are trying to stop criminals aren't magically the bad guys--any worse than the corporations who keep and sell your info in the first place.
You can't leak data that was never gathered. You want privacy, use a service that's actually designed for privacy.
You want a public forum? You're going to be... in a public forum. With no expectation of privacy.
We can argue about how it should be in a "perfect world", but in the real world, that's the tradeoff. You either get massive exposure on Twitter, or, communicate with a tight-knit group on something actually secure like Tor, Signal, etc.
"How dare someone know the things I said in public!" As if telling someone to kill their self on Twitter is some kind of sacred, protected right. (And dear God, is Twitter a big bucket of hatred.)
They grab your info all the time for alleged copyright infringement. They're engaging in a public forum where literally anyone can read what they said--and that's the entire purpose of the medium. It's the electronic equivalent of speaking at full volume on a sidewalk. What expectation of privacy did they really have?
I really don't see a problem with "requesting" information. The police can request your info from your phone calls, your bank account, and tons of other things _for the purpose of solving crimes_. And here, it's even less bad, because requesting doesn't mean they're snooping through and finding your new secrets (like password protected data). It's merely validating WHO said WHAT. Whether a crime has been committed is an orthogonal issue.
That is to say, I can call whoever I want and police can get my info in the process of investigating crimes. However, what is a CRIME or NOT is whether or not I used that phone to call in a bomb threat. The BOMB THREAT is the crime, whether it's over Twitter (and many have been!), a sidewalk, or a phone.
The only reason people are actually caring (which they didn't when the last president was in office--Google that shit), is because... of "evil Trump." ... Even though it's the same Department of Justice and the DoJ has constantly butted heads with and leaked info about Trump. But simply a new guy as President, and somehow, all the previously "acceptable" actions of federal investigators are all now suspect. As if he has the power to force an entire agency to magically turn corrupt overnight and every employee has no free will or agency.
Out of all the scary, dragnet, evil overlord stuff that's come since the Snowden leaks. The cops merely being able to confirm that I said what I DID say (when that info was ALWAYS available to advertisers, corporations, and hackers) is the least of my worries. That's a huge leap away from thermally or x-ray scanning you inside your house, or hijacking your cellphone tower to READ YOUR PRIVATE TEXTS (all of which they've done doing).
Except that all WIFI hotspots announce that they have WEP or WPA2 so people would immediately know you're an easy target.
I had the EXACT same thing happen with a docking station that worked fine for 3+ years then an iOS update and all a sudden "this device is incompatible with your iphone and may damage the device".
Fuckers.
Finally? Like it's some huge problem? My wife has had 3 kindles and none of them died from water damage.
Meanwhile, how many Apple phones get dropped into the sink or toilet every year? How about we apply the "Finally" qualifier to them, eh?
I strongly believe that our nation's justice departments and congress have completely collapsed. (Read: regulatory capture)
When Enron collapsed, love or hate him, Bush Jr.'s DOJ threw their management in jail. They didn't care about effects on "the economy" or "jobs" or anything. They tossed those sum-bitches in jail.
Meanwhile, GM makes cars that kill teenagers, nothing happens. Wall Street single-handedly PUTS US INTO A RECESSION (that could have become a full on depression) and none of them go to jail. Thanks, Eric Holder! Speaking of Holder, his department SENDS GUNS TO MEXICAN DRUG DEALERS that we know for a fact were used to murder a US border agent (and possibly countless Mexicans) and NO ONE GOES TO JAIL.
Forget "cops being above the law", you want to be above the law, just pay the $49 fee to incorporate. No need to spend time getting in shape and going through the academy.
More cores! More RAM! More performance! ... and more cost.
Oh, and less PCI-e lanes while we're at it. And let me guess, no NVMe because us plebeians don't deserve it.
Would you be okay if China promoted Hillary on Facebook?
Because they sure loved the Clintons in 1996.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
This is really insightful.
If we were talking about terrorism, people here would NOT be for banning all Muslims. It's not the good Muslims fault the bad ones are blowing people up.
But guns? All a sudden the logic is reversed and it's okay to take them away from innocents. Unless they're Muslim, then once again it's racist.
I'd find it easy to vote for a party if they could pick a fucking stance and stick with it.
Uhhh ... unless someone wanted to sabotage USA-Cuba-Russia relations by framing one of them.
Slashdotters really need to get out of this Russia tunnel vision and realize there's at least ONE major player on the world scale. China.
Is Russia Russia Russia.
And that's fine. KEEP DIGGING.
But why is NOBODY looking into CHINA CHINA CHINA?!
We have proof they meddled in our elections in 1996. Does everyone think they just magically stopped?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
In between you know... stealing our nuclear secrets in 1999?
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03...
And weapon secrets... in 2009?
http://www.popularmechanics.co...
BUT SURELY they stopped right before the 2016 election! So don't worry guys, we don't need to look anymore.
You know, if I was China, I'd actually be pushing for Russia investigations to keep people from looking into all my dirty laundry...
I love how you feel, but I think on a practical level that's impossible. LONGER, sure. But 20-30 years is impossible:
Most companies that write the software we use don't even last 30 years. Who takes it over after they die? Even Chrysler and GM tried to weasel out of their warranty claims and "killed by daughter" ignition switch lawsuits by saying "that was the old version of the company! ...even though we still make the exact same car..." /scumbags
And what kind of support are you talking about? Software or hardware? 30 years ago (almost to the DAY), my Compaq Portable was built. It weighs ~40 lbs, and has an 8088 CPU. Are you suggesting someone from Compaq should show up at my door with the new 8-bit ISA floppy driver card I need?
And the thing is, I actually AGREE that "significant SaaS services" should be regulated by law as utilities. What happens when Steam, Facebook, Twitter, World of Warcraft, etc go out of business or are bought out? What happens to all that content of yours that you legally owned up until the point the company changed hands? What happens when the servers get shut down? The people should have the right to either 1) get all their data before the servers close, and 2) build a replacement service (open source API's?) if the dying company or new owner refuses to build a comparable product to continue existing users. The web is getting more and more integral to our lives and yet software companies go tits up just about as often as they used to. What happens in the future when all of your work is through web apps (like Google Docs) and they go away or simply remove their old product?
Now, reasonable companies keep their consumers happy by helping them migrate. But that's a RARE quality. And companies that are going out of business give two craps about their consumers. Their company is dying, they have "more important [to them]" things to worry about. But while companies like GOG have stated openly they'll help everyone get their data in case of a buyout/closing, do you think all those scumbags at Universal, Sony Pictures, and other record companies, would care equally about consumers? Inbetween infecting all their CDs with rootkits, somehow, I don't think they'd give a shit.
SaaS is ticking time bomb (like data breaches we're finally getting congress to care about) and current legislation / regulation / corporate-culture is doing nothing to stop the train from barreling down the tracks toward the missing bridge. Once one big ticket company falls, we HOPE, everything will change. But whose data (and money!) is gonna be lost before that happens? Wait a couple more years while the world rotates the jack-in-the-box another few turns.
I think the point is that the UPGRADE has been either so expensive, or so fault-ridden that nobody is doing it in practice. ala "If it works, don't fix it."
But, I don't know the entire corporate/political environment. Could it be a bunch of lazy companies? Maybe. Could it be the Linux foundation has no power so they're doing this because they feel screwed? Maybe... but I'd really need more data and insight into this matter before I can really condemn any party in this scenario.
Slashdot is a strange place.
They defend censorship of Google and Facebook when it's the USA. But when it's the EU doing it, they deride it.
Ivan?! I barely know him!
...because CRM 2013 and later use a bogged-down piece of junk web interface that 1) expects you to have a touch screen (what.) and 2) actually manages to corrupt itself if you press the BACK BUTTON because IE caches urls... urls which include a temporary session key that expires, leaving tons of our clients wondering why their product magically stops working. The same thing happens with refresh.
The Microsoft solution? They say "hitting back/refresh button is not supported." Yeah, that's right. Microsoft has decided that an entire feature of the internet and 99% of users intuitively use without thinking... leads to a broken system until you manually clear the cache.
And as anyone in IT can attest: It's super easy to get hundreds of salespeople to modify their behavior! Especially when you give them a convenient "break my app" button at the top of their app.
I'd be laughing if I wasn't so sad at the number of stories like this I have related to supporting Microsoft products.
Google has a trend of trying everything... and then just giving up on anything that doesn't immediately take off.
They're the Fox channel equivalent of technology. ::sigh::
...do that to all the ISIS ones.
Yeah, these threads always attract large amounts of vocal idiots. People who assume "their way" is "the best way" and yet they've never actually spent _significant_ time using both languages.
To everyone else, the answer is obvious, so they don't feel the need to comment. Static languages exist BECAUSE they solve a myriad of types of bugs. Dynamic languages exist because they're easier to rapidly develop--but they fall apart at medium-to-large scale projects. And there are probably dozens more tradeoffs.
"Right tool for the job" basically sums up the answer to the entire comment section.
...how these discussions and articles and pundents never mention... China... in the list of foreign influences on the USA?
It's not like China has ever directly involved themselves in our elections before...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ... shit.