However, if everyone is a digital projection controlled by a computer program, then how is it the humans inside the matrix are capable of independent thought? Why isn't it like "Big Brother" in George Orwell's 1984, where the Thought Police were always watching for crimethink? Even if the computers' super-advanced AI engine could simulate thoughts *for* the human, and trick them into thinking they came up with it themselves, then why would the system allow a human to discover what is outside the Matrix? Is there a certain amount of "tolerance" built into the system? I guess that would explain the need for "agents."
If The Matrix movies were an Outer Limits episode, the ending would be the humans freeing themselves from the Matrix, but the last scene would show the humans still inside the Matrix, and all the "getting freed from machine oppression" was just being simulated by the Matrix to keep the humans happy.
I did that (convert it to nicer format that is). Ogg media stream container, mpeg4 video using mencoder+libavcodec (2pass, high quality, 4 motion vectors per macroblock, bitrate 800 kbit), Ogg Vorbis audio (quality 1). Result is a 58MB big file. Obviously there is quality loss (the original was 141MB), and mencoder seems not to encode all frames, making it a bit skippy at times (this also probably explains the small size).
It is good quality IMHO (good enough for me to dump the original), and the audio is in sync (the original file has two audio streams, but mplayer ignores the shorter one, for this encoding I decoded both streams to raw pcm, concatenated the streams and encoded the one stream). If you don't like it, don't use it.
Oh, and I had to split it in two since I don't have enough webspace in one spot for 58 megs. Either play them consecutively or join them with ogmcat(1) found in the ogmtools.
"onnellinen onnellinen ilo ilo" is a (poor) translation of "happy happy joy joy" into the Finnish language. For a Finn it sounds way too clumsy and idiotic compared to the original, which has an excellent rythm. The Ren&Stimpy show translators here in Finland had a better sounding translation, but I can't remember it (I think it was something like "hupi hupi kiva kiva").
It looks like the subject is any program that endangers data systems. Ergo this also covers exploits and intrusion software.
True.
The direct result is that if I download/keep intrusion/exploits on my computer in order to develop security fixes for them or test if my machine is vulnerable I am a criminal.
False. The proposed law I read (I didn't go looking for the passed law, but I'm assuming it didn't change for worse) specifically and strongly emphasizes malicious intent. Writing and distributing exploit software is allowed as long as you haven't got malicious intent. Even writing and distributing viruses could be considered legal, if the prosecution cannot prove that you had malicious intent (or IRL: if you cannot prove that you didn't have malicious intent when spreading that virus you are considered a criminal you probably are).
So, let me summarize: you are allowed to do pretty much everything you were allowed to do before this law passed (even write viruses to find out if you can), but as soon as you distribute something that is clearly a virus or malicious program or instructions to write those things, you can pretty much bet on it that unless you can clearly state to the investigating police or the court that you didn't have malicious intent when doing so, you are a criminal as far as the Finnish justice system goes. This may sound harsh, but the truth is that the police won't investigate a thing until something bad happens, so you don't have to worry about the police even if you develop and distribute software that searches for vulnerabilities, as long as you clearly state that the software is for enhancing security, not for compromising it.
I believe that to find out how this law works in practice, we need a case or two going all the way up to the supreme court. I trust that if/when that happens that Slashdot will be there to tell you stupid Americans how we handle things here in Finland (we handle things the right way, Slashdot just reports them the wrong way (I'm serious)).
Oh, just to let you know, I think that the passed law is A Good Thing, even though it doesn't allow us to sue a certain William Henry G. for distributing software that obviously is harmful to computers, unless we can prove that he had malicious intent.
- HoppQ - Now where's that Babelfish for legalese?
PS. I don't think that all Americans are stupid. Neither are all Finns. Those Americans who name their kids William Henry even though they know for certain that he will end up called Bill are idiots. Bill isn't even a proper name if you ask my opinion (so better not ask).
The domain name registration for.fi is handled by Telecommunications Administration Centre (works under Ministry of Transport and Communications).
See the FAQ they have about registering domain names. Learn from it. Make Icann and whatever learn from it, because their policy works. The reasons it might not work for you Americans, are:
a) Finland is smaller than USA, and the rest of the world is interested in.com.org and.net as well. b) Finland has a justice system and laws, whereas USA has a "rob a man of his money and/or drive him into banrupcy by pointing a finger at him" system and "laws" (just my opinion, based on what I've seen on telly, news and Slashdot).
I have a libc5 distribution (old Slackware), and neither of the binaries work on me. I have succesfully run other software and games (like Hopkins playable demo, Q3Test (it is glibc2 based, IIRC?)) using the glibc2 libraries that came with StarOffice (using LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to the Office50/lib directory), but I've had no luck with this Myth2 demo using those, it just gives me a blam (and video memory protecting if I'm root, but it doesn't change video mode at any point). I also tried downloading a glibc2.1 rpm package, and use the libraries from there (again with LD_LIBRARY_PATH pointing to where I extracted them with rpm2cpio and cpio), but it behaves the same. If I don't use the correct (g)libc libraries with the binaries, all that changes is that it doesn't detect my home directory, so it goes to worse (expected). I have 32MB RAM, 266 MHz AMD K6, so it shouldn't be the lack of horsepower (yes, Q3Test was an "experience" with only 32MB RAM;). Anyone have suggestions (other than "upgrade whole system to glibc2" (too much work) or "buy a new modern distribution" (I have thought about it))?
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That's nuts. Next SCO will claim ownership of the internet and sue Al Gore for inventing it.
I don't think I've heard of Nail Gaiman. How does his writing relate to J.R.R. Toelkien's?-)
Your wife's name is Frankley?
If The Matrix movies were an Outer Limits episode, the ending would be the humans freeing themselves from the Matrix, but the last scene would show the humans still inside the Matrix, and all the "getting freed from machine oppression" was just being simulated by the Matrix to keep the humans happy.
I did that (convert it to nicer format that is). Ogg media stream container, mpeg4 video using mencoder+libavcodec (2pass, high quality, 4 motion vectors per macroblock, bitrate 800 kbit), Ogg Vorbis audio (quality 1). Result is a 58MB big file. Obviously there is quality loss (the original was 141MB), and mencoder seems not to encode all frames, making it a bit skippy at times (this also probably explains the small size).
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It is good quality IMHO (good enough for me to dump the original), and the audio is in sync (the original file has two audio streams, but mplayer ignores the shorter one, for this encoding I decoded both streams to raw pcm, concatenated the streams and encoded the one stream). If you don't like it, don't use it.
Oh, and I had to split it in two since I don't have enough webspace in one spot for 58 megs. Either play them consecutively or join them with ogmcat(1) found in the ogmtools
File 1, 39MB
File 2, 19MB
"onnellinen onnellinen ilo ilo" is a (poor) translation of "happy happy joy joy" into the Finnish language. For a Finn it sounds way too clumsy and idiotic compared to the original, which has an excellent rythm. The Ren&Stimpy show translators here in Finland had a better sounding translation, but I can't remember it (I think it was something like "hupi hupi kiva kiva").
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HoppQ
True.
False. The proposed law I read (I didn't go looking for the passed law, but I'm assuming it didn't change for worse) specifically and strongly emphasizes malicious intent. Writing and distributing exploit software is allowed as long as you haven't got malicious intent. Even writing and distributing viruses could be considered legal, if the prosecution cannot prove that you had malicious intent (or IRL: if you cannot prove that you didn't have malicious intent when spreading that virus you are considered a criminal you probably are).
So, let me summarize: you are allowed to do pretty much everything you were allowed to do before this law passed (even write viruses to find out if you can), but as soon as you distribute something that is clearly a virus or malicious program or instructions to write those things, you can pretty much bet on it that unless you can clearly state to the investigating police or the court that you didn't have malicious intent when doing so, you are a criminal as far as the Finnish justice system goes. This may sound harsh, but the truth is that the police won't investigate a thing until something bad happens, so you don't have to worry about the police even if you develop and distribute software that searches for vulnerabilities, as long as you clearly state that the software is for enhancing security, not for compromising it.
I believe that to find out how this law works in practice, we need a case or two going all the way up to the supreme court. I trust that if/when that happens that Slashdot will be there to tell you stupid Americans how we handle things here in Finland (we handle things the right way, Slashdot just reports them the wrong way (I'm serious)).
Oh, just to let you know, I think that the passed law is A Good Thing, even though it doesn't allow us to sue a certain William Henry G. for distributing software that obviously is harmful to computers, unless we can prove that he had malicious intent.
- HoppQ - Now where's that Babelfish for legalese?
PS. I don't think that all Americans are stupid. Neither are all Finns. Those Americans who name their kids William Henry even though they know for certain that he will end up called Bill are idiots. Bill isn't even a proper name if you ask my opinion (so better not ask).
The domain name registration for .fi is handled by Telecommunications Administration Centre (works under Ministry of Transport and Communications).
.com .org and .net as well.
See the FAQ they have about registering domain names. Learn from it. Make Icann and whatever learn from it, because their policy works. The reasons it might not work for you Americans, are:
a) Finland is smaller than USA, and the rest of the world is interested in
b) Finland has a justice system and laws, whereas USA has a "rob a man of his money and/or drive him into banrupcy by pointing a finger at him" system and "laws" (just my opinion, based on what I've seen on telly, news and Slashdot).
- HoppQ -
I have a libc5 distribution (old Slackware), and neither of the binaries work on me. I have succesfully run other software and games (like Hopkins playable demo, Q3Test (it is glibc2 based, IIRC?)) using the glibc2 libraries that came with StarOffice (using LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to the Office50/lib directory), but I've had no luck with this Myth2 demo using those, it just gives me a blam (and video memory protecting if I'm root, but it doesn't change video mode at any point). I also tried downloading a glibc2.1 rpm package, and use the libraries from there (again with LD_LIBRARY_PATH pointing to where I extracted them with rpm2cpio and cpio), but it behaves the same. If I don't use the correct (g)libc libraries with the binaries, all that changes is that it doesn't detect my home directory, so it goes to worse (expected). I have 32MB RAM, 266 MHz AMD K6, so it shouldn't be the lack of horsepower (yes, Q3Test was an "experience" with only 32MB RAM ;). Anyone have suggestions (other than "upgrade whole system to glibc2" (too much work) or "buy a new modern distribution" (I have thought about it))?