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1st Episode Of Animatrix Released
Devistater writes "The official Matrix page has word of the first officially released widescreen Anime episode of the Animatrix for download (in quicktime format). This is the first of 4 free episodes that will be released on the web. A total of 9 episodes will be availible for purchase on DVD within the next few months. The feature-quality anime shorts range in length from 6 minutes to 16 minutes. There's a trailer availible if you want to get a taste for what they will be like."
Technically speaking, the trailer was very impressive I thought. You might have to suspend belief for a second to believe the plot, as outlined, but it was very pretty and had some powerful imagery.
Anime and The Matrix! Two Great Tastes That Taste Great Together! I even Shutdown eMule to download this ;)
-JE
Mr Anderson, it seems... you got your own anime.
Why do robots need to wear safety construction helmets? ;-)
Here it is: The Second Renaissance Part 1
The solution that has worked best for me...is to avoid public discussion. -- CmdrTaco
Same here. Also, a real download instead of streaming would be nice, as my network-enabled machine is way too weak to actually play such a thing....
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p rogressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixlgfinal_dl.mo v
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for lame masterl, simply do: wget http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/
!note it's mov not mo v
I don't claim I know more than I know, and if you know you know more than I know, then by all means, let me know.
It's less "different people's views on it" and more a bunch of mini prequels - doing things and telling stories which they couldn't with live action.
I for one am impressed with the way they have handled it and the outcome...
And the other resolutions:
320x136
480x204
640x272
The solution that has worked best for me...is to avoid public discussion. -- CmdrTaco
wget "http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/ progressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixlgfinal_dl.m ov"
Have Fun!
Well, there's no reason you want to watch it if you think animation is just for kids.
Presumably you think books are only for spotty people with glasses too.
I wonder if they spent a lot of time trying to figure out the Matrix special effects for this version. :)
Here is a to the 640-width trailer for everyone who would like to perhaps save it locally and not use the imbedded junk. I hate that.
...wow. Aren't I articulate? This is, essentially, fanfic. And it is pretty damned good.
As for the trailer
God bless timothy for posting this at 6:49AM. =)
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Heh, the first QuickTime movie that MPlayer fails on me with :(
Starting playback...
mjpeg: JFIF header found (version: 1.1)
mjpeg: unsupported coding type (c2)
VDec: Codec did not set sh->disp_w and sh->disp_h, trying workaround.
Error while decoding frame!04 ct: -0.000 3/ 3 0% 0% 0.0% 0 0 0%
mjpeg: unsupported coding type (cf)0.000 5/ 5 0% 0% 0.0% 0 0 0%
mjpeg: unsupported coding type (cf)
etc...
If you find a key for the latest quicktime, after you download you can just click save as. Its about 144 megs long. They dont prevent you from saving it. :) Some quicktime files are made so you can't replay them from cache, but I dont belive this one is done that way.
Alternativly, clear out your cache, go watch it, look in your temp files cache and find the 144 meg file, copy and rename it. Bam there it is
I used wget on http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/p rogressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixlgfinal_dl.mo v to get the high definition version (about 140MB)
This site sells something that lets you see it. Does does this one.
It's great! The visuals are spectacular. If you've read the manga on the Matrix site before you will recognize both the style and some of the characters. I really admire the producers of the Matrix for not just turning it into a movie franchise, but into a fully-fledged universe, like Star Wars did. I'm looking forward to the rest...
... In the first film it they intimated that they didnt really know much history - they didnt even know the date. This seems to show quite a detailed history of what happened.
Its also quite sympathetic to the machines. If you are one of the last of a group which has almost been wiped out, you are unlikely to see your history from the point of view of those who did the wiping.
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Just image Fred Flintstone kicking Snagglepuss's ass then switching a sweet bullettime pan of scooby doo standing and.. get this.. BLINKING.. OMG... that would Ownzor...
"I am a kernel in the linux army"
Matrix was interesting 'cause it was anime with real actors. Anime based on Matrix is just...anime.
On which planet are you living? And why are there only 5 people?
The first episode is kinda cool, although I could do without that (spoiler)graphic murder scene(/spoiler). Interesting how humanity always seems to create robots and then provoke them to destroy them :P. Those damned dirty robots!
What does The Matrix have to do with anime? As far as I know, The Matrix is an American movie. Have they hired a Japanese studio to make the animation? Or is it just an American studio trying to mimic the Japanese styles?
(I haven't watched the videos yet, I'm downloading them right now.)
Don't show that trailer to your Wakamaru. The things are uppity enough as it is.
The problem with The Matrix was its message: technology is inherently bad. The dialog places the blame of the whole Matrix world being due to "scientists messing with things they shouldn't" (paraphrased). Other movies, like the Terminator series, are just as bad. I don't get why such a blatantly anti-technology movie is so popular with the technology crowd, other than appreciation for the work that went into the special effects.
I always wondered how Terminators would take over...Now I don't have to wait for the movie..
Oh wait..
The animation seems to fit both stories..
Animation was quite well done though. Thank goodness its early.
It has to be somekind of utopia (or something)... :)
"There was man. And for a time it was good. But humanitie's so called civil society soon fell victim to vanity."
:)
This is followed by the robots feeling they lack respect from humans and aren't treated equally - they form a breakaway society and still try to interact with humans who don't want it.
If anything I thought you were just meant to replace the robots with your favourite repressed minority group and nod at how sucky ignorent majority groups are, as opposed to the robots being wrong...
But that might just be the rablings of a paranoid white guy
You have to buy something to get a fucking URL these days... Man, you can charge for nothing..
by your own criteria, several of the short films are indeed anime. Animators and producers from cowboy bebop and deep submarine something-or-other are involved in this project.
I saw "Animatrix" and thought "female animator". Bad hormones! *smack*
I don't care how fake and imposed it is...if its cool i'll watch it.
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I watched this last night (the short they released, not the trailer) saw some thing on it while my wife was watching Access Hollywood or ET...), it was neat animation and all, although the large format wasn't working, but the story wasn't that great. In fact it was actually quite disillusioning (is that a word?)- it seems like the humans were very mean to the robots - there was a robot holocaust and they were just defending themselves, trying to be free etc...so really what rights do the humans in The Matrix have to complain??? According to the short, they brought it on themselves.
Oh well, I'm just going to pretend I didn't watch it...
Or you juse download the reference movie.
if it is in XML, you just pick out the real URL.
If it is binary, you run strings on it and pick out the real URL.
Then, unless it is a RTSP URL, you just use curl or wget to download.
haha
you snob. correction, ignorant snob.
I can just see it now...
;-)
Morpheus: Neo, we now have the ultimate weapon against the machines... a weapon so powerful that our victory is insured...
neo just stands there with his mouth hanging open
Morpheus: The Slashdot effect. Named after cyber attack (per the DMCA in the early 2000s), it harnests the power of millions of overweight single geeks checking out the newest movie clip at the same time. This will allow us destroy the machines once and for all.
Neo: whoa
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*Yawn* Of course anime is sexist and full of cheesecake, just as much as American shows do. the main difference is that the anime is far more likely to have sexually appealing underage girls.
As to anime as porn, replace every instance of anime in your previous statement with "movie." We have live action porn movies in this country, it uses a medium that is also used to convey works of art and random schlock. Just like anime. As a feminist should I avoid everything that might be tainted with non feminist ideals or should I just keep that in mind while I watch a damn goos show?.
If you want disturbing elements though, try reading up on the casual libking of sex and violence in Japanese culture. It gets very disturbing when you delve into it.
Feminism is the radical notion that women are people.
>The problem with The Matrix was its message: >technology is inherently bad.
... Terrorism.
Still another problem with the Matrix series: they suggest several times that authority figures are inherently evil. I'd disagree with that. The machines in the Matrix aren't merely energy thieves; their software-driven world is a paradise for those who dwell within it.
You of course "pay" to be immersed in paradise. That sounds like living in most nations of the world. In real life, no matter what country you're in, you pay tax in some form in order for the government to protect and care for you. This framework is called the social contract.
Why I find the Matrix so disturbing is that it suggests that we can and should do away with this social contract without establishing a replacement for it. It blithely suggests that anarchy is a viable alternative to this. They seem to have forgotten that without the machines the entire software world will probably fail. What's more, the main heroes never attempted to create their own society through anything other than violence.
I think we often refer to that sort of behavior as
I would reccomend using a tool like wget or lftp to grab them, as my connection reset several times while downloading (due to the traffic I imagine).
Small (30MB+):p rogressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixsmfinal_dl.mo v
http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/
Medium (90MB+):p rogressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixmedfinal_dl.m ov
http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/
Large (140MB+):p rogressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixlgfinal_dl.mo v
http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/
Additionally, the concept of the universe (similar to the Terminator universe) is that there was a conflict between humans and artificial life. The first movie was told from the viewpoint of a human, of course a human would view the robots as evil, they're the enemy. A story told from the viewpoint of one of the robots wouldn't portray technology as bad at all. Watch the first Animatrix, there is definitely a pro-machine slant to it.
I'm the big fish in the big pond bitch.
Dammit, I can't download the file.
I gotta stop others from leeching until I can get the file.
Wow. I have seen ignorance on /. before, but this is just crazy. Anyone who can call the works of Tezuka Osamu or Miyazaki Hayao "no better than pornography" should probably educate themselves before posting. Yes, there is a lot of anime with sex and/or nudity in it. So do American movies and TV. But there is also anime with significantly better feminist messages than just about any Disney film (see any film by Miyazaki, Matsumoto Leiji, etc.), anime which raises interesting questions of gender roles (Shoujo Kakumei Utena, Versailles no Bara), and countless titles which no one could possibly find offensive.
So before you make blanket comments (especially about something as varied as anime), try to have some clue what you're talking about. Or at least give evidence.
It's nice to have choices in entertainment, and a market that drives the creation of stuff like this.
While I like the "Star Wars" universe and even enjoy a few meager facets of the worn-out "Star Trek" universe, it's great to find anime used to generate realism and convincing stories within a very intriguing framework like the "Matrix" movies.
It's not extremely original, the story. We've got a basic Arthurian legend story going in the same way in the latter "Star Wars" movies. But, as any writer would tell you, it's all in the presentation. And present this offering does. Very fun to watch, and illuminating.
Vos teneo officium eram periculosus ut vos recipero is.
Animatrix Trailer (high res)
Animatrix Part 1
just right click and choose "save as" if you're using IE =)
Depends on which American shows you are watching. I know they are all in their 20s, but they look much younger than that.
These things are all MacGuffins. Don't let them distract you from the storytelling.
What makes science fiction interesting is not the idea of self-aware computers that want to kill us, or time travel, but the implications of those things for future societies... how people respond to them. Dan Simmons wrote one of the best S.F. stories I've ever read in "Hyperion" and its follow-ups and I'm pretty sure he used all three of those MacGuffins, maybe more. Alfred Bester wrote two incredible novels that, using your analysis, were "anti-telepathy" or "anti-teleportation," but in fact they were much more.
There are lots of bad S.F. books and films out there as well that explore (or try, or maybe don't even try) the same themes. "The Matrix" and the first two "Terminator" movies certainly were not bad. You might argue that one or more (or all) of those episodes of ST:TOS where Kirk blows up the evil computer controlling a society, or his ship, are better examples of how not to do it.
So, to sum up, it's not only Hollywood, it's not really Luddism, and if done right can be really interesting and enjoyable.
Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
There is a certain substantive portion of the anime produced for which the above is entirely true. It certainly is not a troll. To the extent that japanese women view japanese pornography - which is vile stuff, substantially - this is spot on, and a great deal of anime is merely sexist. American women view slasher movies which might follow in a similar psychological vein; I'm not sure that "internalising oppression" is really what is happening - people have a certain fascination with the horiffic which I think draws women to watch horror movies, and may draw japanese women to watch japanese pornography, such of it as includes a great deal of rape or S&M or what have you. To say that women who view softcore pornography are necesarilly self-loathing is excessively prudish. More apologetics below.
However, and this has been true for a long time, it is not a recent devlopment, a great deal of anime is not sexist.
In a lot of anime the female characters are stylised representations with exagerated secondary sexual characteristics - this is often true in material which objectifies women in a sexist fashion, but sylised (cartoony) representations of people do NOT necesarilly objectify them. Any particular work must be viewed as a whole. Having been a teenage boy, I can say that my perception of women at that time was hyper-sexualised; this is pretty much universal among straight teenage boys.
Is adolescent male sexuality inherently sexist? I think that it is not.
Is it sexist for artists who were teenage boys to represent female characters in this way, particularly if the protagonist is an adolescent male, as is often the case? It is not. It's an accurate representation of an internal environment, which is what a cartoon is intended to do.
To the extent that this stylistic element is repeated in works by women, which are about 50% of what is produced - I will not speculate on the internal environment of adolescent girls, but I don't think this arises from self-loathing, I think that would be reflected in the female characters behavior rather than in how they are drawn.
Finally, in a sexist society (Japan) is it sexist to represent sexist interpersonal relationships in a work of fiction? I agree that it is good and laudible for a work of fiction to attempt to break down popular preconceptions and prejudices, but it is always okay for a work of fiction to reflect one's actual experiences.
The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
Don't be silly. The insistence that people must belong to one camp or another is tiresome in the extreme.
Technology is just technology. It's not something to be For or Against. All it represents is the ability to use the natural elements of the Universe around us. What bothers people is the total lack of regard and responsibility displayed by those who make big, messy displays as they use Technology; as they interact with the Universe in destructive, dirty and dangerous ways which affect the world and everybody around them whether we like it or not. Technology isn't ruining the world. It's the greedy morons who are using technology in the negative who are ruining the world.
Films like The Matrix and Terminator aren't anti-technology. Heck, Frankenstein, the grand daddy of Luddite-style thinking, isn't anti-technology, even if Mary Shelly thought that it was, (and I'm not at all convinced that English professors are correct in their claim that she did!). These are messages which address the very real concerns that technology placed in the hands of greedy assholes is, in no uncertain terms, bloody dangerous!
I don't see anything wrong or misplaced in these concerns, or in being interested in the issues raised by those concerns. And in any case, The Matrix and Terminator were entertaining for more than just their sociological and special effects values. They were exciting films, for flip's sake! Change out of your camp tee-shirt, get on the bus, and come back to reality.
-Fantastic Lad --"Ain't no flies on us!"
Please don't lump the matrix in with the terminator series. The wealth of gnostic imagery and actual metaphysics and philosophy underlying the cool bullettime action sequences is there to teach you something. Don't just blow it off as an action movie cause you didn't get it. Coming to terms with the machines and respecting life whether it is silicon based or carbon based is not being a Luddite. Though I sometimes do agree with King Ludd :P
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Because it doesn't have a license to decode the signal. The same reason it's illegal to watch DVDs on Linux. Plus the additional restrictions introduced in the Digital Rights Management Act of 2005. You know, the one the MPAA demanded passed before making HDDVDs.
The solution that has worked best for me...is to avoid public discussion. -- CmdrTaco
-Fantastic Lad
I prefer to look at it as not necessarily technology is bad but from a luser's persepective it is so easy for technology to go out of hand.
Give it 20 years when even making toast is abstracted into some large machine we don't have direct control over. Joe Q. User would just say 'toast' and toast would come out. The user cannot appriciate nor have control over the toaster in fact quite the opposite. This ignorance fosters abuse ('it will always work so I don't have to care for it') in us lazy humans and when we make these machines more intelligent to deal with our ignorance it isn't too much of a stretch that they (the machines) may put off by our ignorance.
The main point is that in the facination with bigger, faster, stronger we lose the ability (as a people) to fully understand how we interact with the world and how it interacts with us.
Think of this as a Paul Bunyan story where the chainsaw has feelings and self awareness.
Anyways that's just my opinion. No refunds will be considered for any reason.
"Survival of the fittest Max, and we've got the fucking gun!" - Pi
wget http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/p rogressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixlgfinal_dl.mo v
p rogressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixlgfinal_dl.mo v
or
curl -o http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/
Don't worry, Anime have meny young and sexy male characters to please women.
Because 97% of anime looks spectacular but is otherwise incredibly fucking stupid?
But that's just me.
-Fantastic Lad
Great anime, btw! I was just reminded too much of Kubrick/Speilberg's AI. Not the story, but the world it was set in. I'm sure others could build links between this and I, Robot, but still... the quality of the film is spectacular! It's so good, I don't even care that I've essentially seen this before :-)
In Babylon 5, androids are banned. According to J. Michael Straczynski, they went on strike.
Irene KHAAAAAAN!
The problem with The Matrix was its message: technology is inherently bad.
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What message? I thought the movie was entertainment, not a discourse on the evils of technology. If the movie was "all this technology is wonderful and the future is wonderful", it wouldn't be very entertaining, would it? To me, The Matrix is nothing but "the good guys" vs. "the bad guys" set in a different environment.
If I want a message, I'll watch The Sorrow and the Pity. If I want entertainment, I'll watch the Matrix
I'm the urban spaceman babe, but here comes the twist... I don't exist
I had to upgrade to quicktime 6 (I think I was using Quick Time 4 before) to get the movie to work. Maybe that will help some people out there.
Okay, not only is the site using Quicktime to view the previews, but the site's size is hard coded to 1024x768, with no scroll bars. Had to resize the screen just to get download links. Quite annoying.
Try here for QuickTime/mplayer instructions.
Looks like he was just trying to play the initial frame (which is a different track, and appears to be specially stored as a JPEG image.
May we never see th
LOL! You've just taken "getting Trolled" to a whole new level, ya boob!
Every anime-oriented thread on this board gets some AC or other posting this pseudo-sociology crap to merely get a rise out of all the 'toon heads here. You're supposed to ignore him, Bunky, not actually go to the trouble of re-posting his tripe after the editors demote it below zero!
Shouldn't these machines be using 0-indexing?
Irene KHAAAAAAN!
Oh WOW! The preview was fucking awsome! Great action scenes, great imagry, just the kind of greatness I expected from Anime! Can you tell that I liked it?! (Just be glad I'm not using all caps)
Were we watching the same film?
It says nothing about technology being bad. If you look past the fact that they are machines and see them as a people you can see many elements of some of the biggest fuckups in human history. The number of references to these were staggering. Off the top of my head (after just seeing it once), I got the following:
They are undoubtably more in there that I missed.
I could cite a dozen references to each of these in the past 100 years alone. So called "modern society" in the west is guilty of most of them, some we are doing right now! Mainly, I thought the short was about how we repeat the same mistakes again and again and never seem to learn. With what is going on in the world at the moment, it's clear that we haven't learned a thing from history.
But nowhere was it implied that technology is "bad". At the most it was a futuristic negative utopia (1984, Brazil, Blade Runner), and it's clear that future human society will be utilising more and more technology, so it goes without saying that AI/machines will feature in it.
Watch it again, this time viewing the machines as people, sort of a "working class" society.
I gotta say, it was one of the most thought provoking things I've seen in a while. Very impressed, and normally I'm not remotely interested in Anime.
Are we going to see the same comment when the big taco dupes this story?
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ping -f 255.255.255.255 # if only
Why did that robot which was torn apart wear clothes and breasts?
Some theories:
- Trying to hide from being destroyed by disguising itself
- Built to fit in. Or for others to fit in. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more....... Or think "kidnapster" from Futurama.
Also, most of those robots had dreadful fashion sense.
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Irene KHAAAAAAN!
In high rez http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/p rogressive/thematrix/us/med/animatrixlgfinal_dl.mo v
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or here http://engsoc.queensu.ca/jabela/filez/videos/anim
?Who controls the past now, controls the future.
Who controls the present now controls the past.?
Occassionally, I see feminist views or reports that were created in a feminist "tunnel vision", and these things do hurt the femisist agenda. I usually believe that avoiding anti-feminist items, such as movies or tv, is usually the cause.
So my advice, is watch the show. If you don't, you're avoiding a quility movie, because of an close, but unrelated topic.
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Drats.
I was hoping it would be filled with some disturbing imagery.
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*shudder*
About two minutes in, I had to stop watching it at work for fear someone would see it over my shoulder and be offended. I guess I'll watch it later.
Education is the silver bullet.
Refugee from Dalnet?
even the Matrix is susceptible to Slashdotting.
Don't everyone all go at once!!! aaawww, crap. well, at least I'm not on the west coast.
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
server's hosed. I keep trying to get it and I get a good rate for a while, then the cxn dies. OK, *this* is what would make me willing to pay for a subscription--if stories went into the subscribers area 1 hour before showing up on the main board. At least when big downloads are involved.
Dear Slashdot: next time you want to mess with the site, add a rich-text editor for comments.
It's constantly crapping out on me. Trying to save it locally errors, saying that it can't read the source file. I assume the same thing is happening with streaming it to quicktime since it just stops at some random point. Very annoying.
-- taking over the world, we are.
What's unbelievable is that you feel the original post -- a cogent and very insightful message -- is somehow a troll.Says something about the /. community when they feel that feminist/anti-misogynistic posts are "pseudo-sociology".
I just got the file.
:)
Leech away
One of the other directors confirmed to have directed a segment of Animatrix is Peter Chung, who created Aeon Flux and whose Japanese-produced series Reign is coming to Cartoon Network Real Soon Now. I look forward to seeing his take on the Matrix mythos.
"But you've already got a DVD. It lasts forever....In the digital world, we don't need back-ups..."
-- Jack Valenti
All forms of technology have good/bad sides. A subtle example is the old bow + arrow. Somewhat Good: Kill animals easier for survival and food. Bad: Kill our fellow man easier as well.
How about something more drastic: Atomic fusion. Good: Very powerful energy source. Bad: Very powerful bombs.
I think really one of the points is to make sure we guide the technology, not follow it.
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Just doesn't sound right when it isn't Duke saying it.
ahem... I believe he asked for a download URL, not a smart-ass comment.
Try http://www.thematrix.com then. I myself don't understand why the two are seperate "sites" (animatrix.com just redirects you to a mini-site on thematrix.com), but there is more information about the project on the main matrix site.
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That's kind of why I find this Animatrix short so interesting. The dialogue in The Matrix does indeed make the machines out to be evil. But this anime places more of the blame--a lot more of it--on the humans of the day, whose luddism and fear and unwillingness to reach an agreement with the machines who just wanted to live in peace apparently led to the whole thing.
It becomes a lot harder to blame the machines for creating the Matrix after seeing this short.
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So by the same token we should occupy germany forever because they were mean to use several generations ago?
Some of us are in shape. Others are not.
Me, my ass is skinny, but it doesn't look as handsome as, say, Carmen Electra's.
Being that I'm a guy, I'm not sure whether to be concerned.
A series that is soon to be available again, this time on DVD, is Cat Girl Nuku Nuku. In it, you have some remarkable female characters. Mishima Akiko is the CEO of Mishima Heavy Industries, and her two-woman Administrative Assistant hit squad kick some serious butt too, especially Arisa, the gun-crazy "warrior maiden." One of the sub-plots has to do with Akiko trying to fit into the role of a stereotypical Japanese housewife to get closer to her son Ryunosuke, but coming to the realization that this is not for her. Kicking ass and taking names is. :-)
Yes, Nuku Nuku herself is a kawaii little thing in a Sailor-suit High School uniform. But don't fsck with her either. She knows how to throw down too. And if she's a little fluffy around the edges, don't blame her...she started out her existence as a cat. ;-)
Cat Girl Nuku Nuku is coming out on the 10th. ADVision. A brand-new dub joins the subtitled version on the DVD. It's not going to have a lot of goodies like what they are doing with Excel Saga but oh well, at least it is coming out.
One last thing: Japanese pop culture has a lot of violence, sex, and sex and violence co-mingled. However, Japanese civil culture is perhaps one of the least violent the world has ever known. Investigate the homicide rate in Japan, then compare it to the US and Europe. Then get back to me.
"But you've already got a DVD. It lasts forever....In the digital world, we don't need back-ups..."
-- Jack Valenti
Ok folks. Is it me or did we just see the repeat of the last 100 grisly years of man in this video.
1. We have the machines hauling large blocks of metal similar to the way the jews were used as slaves in egypt to build the great pyramids.
2. We have the persecution of the robots by man and then shot and buried in piles (see nazi germany).
3. We have the tanks come rolling in to repress the rebellion (see tieneman square in china).
4. We have the machines who work harder, work longer and want to be part of mankinds society and we tell them no. (probably will go down with taiwan and china or tibet and china).
Overall this is like a revist to all the old crimes man has done to man but now mankind as a whole is doing to the machines. Who can really blame them when they strike back?
It's a great piece and i look forward to #2 but this really gives you a feeling of "Haven't we seen this before?" and makes one think...
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I've always thought people said that to justify their copyright violations.. well, now's your chance to prove me, and more importantly WB, wrong.
Anyone have an MD5 sum of the "large" file (animatrixlgfinal_dl.mov)? I had to re-start the transmission a couple of times and want to make sure the file isn't corrupted.
I have an MD5 sum of:
Anyone else?
are there any quicktime players for linux? I only found the windows and mac version on quicktime.com..
anyone knows a good quicktime player for linux?
I have an MD5 of:
There should be a 'c' in front of that checksum:
Am I the only one pissed off because the only way to enjoy the whole story (this from the website) is to ALSO purchase the game? That's such bullshit! I'm all for a good game, but including a story within the movie JUST for the people who bought and completed the game? For Christ's sake, I just want to go. watch. a. damn. movie. How far's this gonna go? Are we going to get to the point where the game's released 3 months in advance and there's no point to seeing the movie if you haven't played the game?
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One question, why widescreen? How many people actually have a widescreen TV?
I just bought a nice new TV, and rented a few DVD's, those little black boxes at the top and bottom make it seem like I'm watching them on my old, smaller TV.
Just a personal rant, but I'd prefer to see less moving towards the widescreen format, which most home-viewers don't have.
IMHO YHBT YHL HTH HAND
OTOH IIRC IANAL
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Someone convert this to .mpg or something. Quicktime won't let you just download a .exe and my firewall won't let me run their automatic installer. So I can't watch this till I get home.
Stupid flippin apple software god (bitch whine moan complain etc.) /sigh
"Eagles may soar, but Weasel's don't get sucked into Jet Engines!"
Mainly, I thought the short was about how we repeat the same mistakes again and again and never seem to learn. With what is going on in the world at the moment, it's clear that we haven't learned a thing from history.
We've all learned well enough. We're just too lazy and comfortable to act on the lessons, and who can blame us?
"Man, I've been fragging on Quake III for seven hours straight while surfing for pr0n during the high ping times. Guess I need to go out to the backyard and plow up my wheat field to get my lazy ass back to nature."
Right. Sorry, but until my box grows a hand and gives me a bitch slap, my curvy ass is staying put abusing it.
"Anonymous Coward" is for whistleblowers, not unpopular opinions.
For all of you still trying to watch the streamed QT version online, you can now download the High Def version (145Mb) on Kazaa.
[n8.r0n] http://petesweb.spymac.net/
if anybody wants a copy reply to this and let me know I'll let you know when I get it done.
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Hmmm good point..
Do we really want our machines forming unions, striking, having feeling etc. etc..
I want my machines doing what I tell them todo and not much else.
Ever seen those new robot toys.. They get into bad moods if you don't pay attention to them.. Enough to drive one nuts.
Here in the UK, most of the new TVs you see in the shops of any size (24"+) seem to be widescreen nowadays. Widescreen is certainly the way it is going over here now - the Free-to-air digital stuff nowadays is now broadcast in widescreen.
I don't know anybody who has bought a new 4:3 TV in the last few years.
I finished downloading it about five minutes before it appeared on Slashdot....
Boy, who rained on your parade today?
The Matrix protagonists *used* technology (as well as the mystical stuff) to win. The movie takes place in a technologically advanced world, so, *surprise!* the villains use (and are(?)) technology.
With a little more thought (you didn't use much of your brain for your comment), you would be able to distinguish between "Luddite" and "Dark Future" which the Matrix is.
And just because I *use* technology doesn't mean I shouldn't be cautious of the dangers.
The real question is then, why are there so many "Dark Future" movies instead of "Happy Future" movies? Well, can you think of a non-boring movie plot where the future is perfectly okay?
Looks like a variation on the /. effect.
Navigating the site is nice & easy, and what I get from the download is at full bandwidth (150k/dsl).
However, I get 5-10% complete with the download and it just terminates.
Safari, IE, even curl.
Can someone get a mirror up?
Actually - not trolling - I never realized how much content was clipped out. That's a damn good site of examples though, much appreciated.
I still find it sad in owning a nwe 27" TV and having only 3/4 of the vertical picture area used. Of course, one day maybe I'll be able to afford that widescreen *plasma* screen I saw a few weeks back.
It's being shared on Kazaa, it'll only take 20 mins to download... wait make that 40 min... 1 hr... 22hrs, wtf? Sneaking suspicion that this is part of some heinious plot to slashdot kazaa. Stupid AOL/Time Warner.
I think more movie companies should do that with miniseries and stuff, give out the first few episodes for free so they get more exposure. I mean, it's an incredibly smart way of letting people know what the premis is, and it also shows a lot of goodwill on the part of the company. I think I just might buy the boxed set due to this, whereas previously I wasn't really that interested in it, and I think overall there are a lot of people like that.
Of course there are also people who will just dl the first 4 eps, then pirate the rest. :P
Every 'how to draw manga' type book I've ever read simply points out that large, exaggerated curves are more visually appealing than the alternative; it's a visual medium, so you exagerate things visually.
Or do you think that every artist who draws typical gravity-defying 'anime hair' was mocked as a child for having the traditional haircut? Or that the males who draw the seven foot, three inch wide 'CLAMP' style men have eating disorders? Or the swords that would break your arms off, should you ever actually try to swing them, were failed fencing students?
Sometimes, just sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar, and sometimes, just sometimes, the typical attributes of a visual art form are simply the typical attributes of a visual art form.
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Just as a note, CLAMP is a group of females, so it would be women who draw the seven foot three inch wide men.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
...by Asterix and Obelix.
i submited this to /. on monday but it didnt go up.. if you like anime check this out.. it is mind blowing and even more of a suprise it is Korean.. there server is kinda slow.. so if some one could mirror the videos... hope it comes out here
Wonderful Days - http://www.wonderfuldays.co.kr/english/
pick your poison
QUICKTIME - http://www.wonderfuldays.co.kr/movie/eng_teaser_tr ailer_high.mov
REAL - http://www.wonderfuldays.co.kr/movie/eng_teaser_tr ailer_high.rmvb
WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER - http://www.wonderfuldays.co.kr/movie/eng_teaser_tr ailer_high.wmv
korea korea
I'm aware that CLAMP is several females, but use them only as an example of a rather easy-to-identify anime/manga sub-style.
Hell, take a look at Yu Watase's Fushigi Yuugi; chock full of cute little girls in revealing school uniforms, an evil chick who's magic centers around 'hot lusty sexxxx to achieve inner peace and healing,' rape as a method of dominance and control, yet the entire story is a hopeful and magical 'magic girl' story. And she's a female artist.
Oh, and it's just oozing with bishonen prettyboys who strip to their skivvies at a moment's notice, and fall all over each other to be the best damn boyfriend they could ever possibly be.
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Found this patch on the MPlayer-Users mailing list.
:)
Now, if someone could just tell me how to apply it...
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does trinity get tentacle raped?
Corrupt System--that's very slutty of you.
Now, I'm sure nerds with no physical appeal have a problem scoreing chicks, and probably get hard off of pre-pubesent anime girls, but really, is this, or anything else anime, really important at all?
A goose show? Isn't that guys pinching women's butts? >:)
Sorry - but I thought that was funny. Back to trying to download the movie...
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
Benny Hill would be a goose show.
Feminism is the radical notion that women are people.
This is a repost of a classic troll from over two years ago. On Slashdot, trolls provoke moderation wars and many replies. Those signs are both present in this confirmed troll. Whoever is inclined to agree with this bunk ought to rethink his position.
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animatrixlgfinal_dl_mov.torrent
Since the main site seems to have been hit hard by this slashdotting, try getting it from this BitTorrent site; Please leave your download window open as long as possible after finishing the download to help out others getting the file.
BitTorrent is a peer to peer file swarmer. You can get the client from http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/download.html; it is Free, open, and does not contain ad/spyware; versions exist for *ix, win32, OS X, etc.
One last thing: Japanese pop culture has a lot of violence, sex, and sex and violence co-mingled. However, Japanese civil culture is perhaps one of the least violent the world has ever known. Investigate the homicide rate in Japan, then compare it to the US and Europe. Then get back to me.
I used to think this too, but lately I tend to raise an eyebrow a little when I see this mentioned. True, you don't see violent crime as much as you do in the states, but at the same time, look at the suicide rate. Just because you don't have the results you do in the US with people exploding doesn't mean that it isn't eating away at something in the minds of these people and causing them to implode.
Yes, guns are a huge part of the equation too (I see you link Bowling for Columbine) but I think that's partially because of this polarization difference between the west and the east. The west is very much about the individual over the whole; the east is very much about the whole over the individual. So while North America has names like Oprah, Regis, J-lo, etc., Japan has Sony, Pioneer, etc.
Further to that, if you look at the family unit in the east, the family is more important than it's members. In the west, it's the individual members who are more important. So if something goes wrong in an eastern family, there's a greater pressure to conform, while in the west, there's a greater pressure towards ensuring all parts excel independantly.
I see guns more as a manifestation of this independance; I don't need the rest of my family to come to bat for me, because I can go out and buy a gun. Instead of strength in numbers, there becomes strength in one, and thus guns are not the cause of the problem, but rather a byproduct of it.
The only time I was this geeky was when I polymorphed into a metallivore called a Xorn, ate a trident and got the message, "That was pure chewing satisfaction."
No one has ever fired for blaming Microsoft.
Can anyone convert it to a format not tied to a proprietary codec that forces me to install buggy software on my machine? A conversion to DivX would be great!
Manipulate the moderator system! Mod someone as "overrated" today.
"The problem with The Matrix was its message: technology is inherently bad."
That is not the message they are trying to get across. What it shows, esspecially in this first episode, is that we created a wonderful thing. The only problem is that we were too arrogant to accept it into society. They attempted to join the United Nations and engage in civil relations with other countries of the world. What a wonderful thing that they have created, and something created by machines humans built. But instead of seeing it that way we let our arrogance and fear get in the way and attempted to surpress them, and not accept them.
The movie is not against technology, or trying to show that technology is inherently bad. Because those machines appear to have had heart, if I can say that, which is a great accomplishment, and not a bad thing at all. The movie is simply against arrogance and projedice. They are showing how in an attempt to surpress a "people" they will retaliate, and rightfully so.
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
A conversion of this movie file from Quicktime to XVID AVI is currently being posted to alt.binaries.anime and alt.binaries.multimedia.anime by [reptile], for those Linux users who want to view the first episode with mplayer.
The matrix doesn't say that technology is bad. It simply says our current form of society will lead us directly to replacing human labor with machine labor and in the process tossing both ethics and morals out the window. This is true. Capitalism will never create utopia. It will never promote the wellfare of the people. It only helps those that help themselves. But when they're help is no longer needed, where does it go from there. We are very quickly approaching that point. Within 30 years we won't need over half the work force we have today because our machines will be cheaper and faster than people.
Ever think about why the inside of the virtual world in the matrix mimics corporate America in 2000? We are all caught in this machine, a cell for our mind that we can't see or taste or smell.
Or maybe its just another dumb movie saying all technology is bad, yeah, I'm sure that's it. That's why the good guys floated around in a non-technical maglev submarine charged with EMP weapons. All technology is bad. Heh, whatever.
I did that (convert it to nicer format that is). Ogg media stream container, mpeg4 video using mencoder+libavcodec (2pass, high quality, 4 motion vectors per macroblock, bitrate 800 kbit), Ogg Vorbis audio (quality 1). Result is a 58MB big file. Obviously there is quality loss (the original was 141MB), and mencoder seems not to encode all frames, making it a bit skippy at times (this also probably explains the small size).
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It is good quality IMHO (good enough for me to dump the original), and the audio is in sync (the original file has two audio streams, but mplayer ignores the shorter one, for this encoding I decoded both streams to raw pcm, concatenated the streams and encoded the one stream). If you don't like it, don't use it.
Oh, and I had to split it in two since I don't have enough webspace in one spot for 58 megs. Either play them consecutively or join them with ogmcat(1) found in the ogmtools
File 1, 39MB
File 2, 19MB
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Okay, who encoded this thing?
JPEG for video? The file is about 10x larger than it would need to be to provide te same quality with, say Sorenson Video 3.
But QDesign Music 2 Basic audio? This is the lame, free, 48 Kbps maximum version of a four year old audio codec. They should have used MPEG-4 AAC-LC, or if they wanted to keep compatibility with QuickTime 4, MP3 audio. Would have sounded MUCH better, without all that nasty phasing.
As it is, they would have been better off just using MPEG-1. That'll play everywhere, and would have provided the same quality at a much smaller file size.
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You mention anti-technology, but this is really a theme that goes back to biblical times. Frankenstein is often cited as a case of anti-technology fears, but it is more than a fear of technology. There is this overpowering drive in man to conquer all he sees, not just nations, but nature itself. To do this we use "technology". We invent engines to conquer space. We invent refrigeratures to conquer hunger. We invent medicines to conquer illness, and one day, we hope, death. Look at the sensation of the Titanic. It wasn't significant that it was a big boat, it was significant that we had conquered nature and space. The ocean and weather couldn't restrain us. We were unsinkable and had conquered the ocean. When the Titanic sunk, headlines read of the trajedy of lives, but what disheartened people was that we had got it thrown in our faces that we had not conquered nature and were still at the mercy of forces we could not control. This same analogy could be made to recent losses in our space program.
For a similar story, just look at the people of Babel and the disasterous consequences of their attempt to be gods.
So rather than an being anti-technology, I think all of those type of stories and movies are really more about our desire to conquer nature and our underlying fear that we will not only fail, but overstep our bounds and harm ourselves drastically in the process. There's a new movie coming out with the same theme about some guys that damage the earth's insides with some big weapon.
In futher analysis, this file is probably using Sorenson Video 3, not Photo-JPEG. It's doing something whacky where the first frame is JPEG, but it's appended to the standard video track instead of being the same one.
I'm guessing the file was encoded in Cleaner with the "High Quality First Frame" flag on, and set to JPEG mode. This is a goofy and pointless thing to do with a modern codec, but I've seen it happen. That would also explain why MPlayer playback is failing.
Anyway, this is probaby a Sorenson Video 3.1 Pro 2-pass VBR encode, based on the data rate distribution. Still, they should have used B-frame encoding, and MP3 or AAC-LC audio instead of QDesign. The keyframe insertion threshold was also too sensitive.
So, my 30 MB brag wouldn't work, but I could deliver a lot better audio quality and similar video quality at 100 MB or so.
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When you build a robot aren't there basic rules that you have to implant in it.
1) You can't harm humans
2) You cannot let harm come to a human if you can prevent it
I never read I, Robot, but I think that's where these rules are from. Pretty good ones too. Honestly I can see people not liking the idea of robots in charge of their own destiny, but the humans in the short go sooo far.
And why did they suddenly stop destroying them and just let ZeroOne come to power?
-- taking over the world, we are.
- First, apply this patch found here. To do so, just download MPlayer's source into the libmpdemux directory and run "patch <
/path/to/patchfile" before compiling (make sure you compile it in such a way as to allow for Quicktime playing - make sure it'll do other Sorenson Quicktime files first).
- Next, once MPlayer is compiled and installed, run it as "mplayer -delay -10 animatrix_blah.mov" The "delay" setting in there because otherwise the sound runs ten seconds before the video, which isn't very good.
And that's it! Just watched the "large" version fullscreen on my P2 450Mhz and it worked like a charm.Well, I should take part of that back; for the first twenty seconds or so, the video ran at about 1fps or less, and Mplayer spewed a bunch of "Your computer is too SLOW!" warnings, but that was evidentally just due to some inadequecies in the Quicktime format with relation to seeking. Once everything was synced up (well before the action starts) it went fine.
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dystopia
*Spoiler Warning* Near the end of the anime, when the robots are denied admission to the UN, the narrator (voiceover) says "01's ambassadors pleaded to be heard. At the United Nations they presented plans for a stable, civil relationship with the nations of man. 01's admissions to the UN were denied. But it would not be the last time the machines take the .." (and I can't understand this last part)
It sounds like "..it would not be the last time the machines take the flow of air." Flow of air?? at first I thought it said "form of man" but after listening again I'm pretty sure it said flow of air. Could you guys help me out here! What does she say? What does she mean?
Personally, it's the only thing I'm looking forward to this year, besides being reunited with my fiance.
Anyway, that out of the way, I just wanted to quote some George Bernard Shaw because your comment provoked it:
"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that man can never learn anything from history." --George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
I think that this quote both validates and invalidates your comment on the human response to history.
Firstly, it agrees with what you are saying, in that we humans are pretty ignorant of the past, and continue to make the same mistakes even when we know what the right way is.
Secondly, it may also imply that humans have nothing to learn from history--like in statistics, the past simply does not matter; everything that happens "now" has the same odds as everything that happened before it.
And in the end, the unity of the two ideas, the fact that we learn from history that we, humans, can never learn anything from history.
Cool! Amazing Toys.
But maybe it was placed in the Zion archives AFTER the 3 movies are over?
HA HA!
Cool! Amazing Toys.
I thought the plot for this movie was rubbish. If computers were going to take over that'd do it by working through the systems that are all around us - global networks, omniprescent computing. The idea of a complex AI from a single facility (be it military, research or manufacturing) taking over the world makes much more sense to me than the prospect or some sort of incredible 'robot nation' of bipeds that look and act like humans do. I hope the quality of subsequent stories is better than this was.
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Now I feel like I'm being trolled. Politically correcting my statement was great -- a nice touch. A troll is not sincere in the opinions he expresses when crafting a troll. In a discussion -- a forum meant for the exchange of ideas -- replying to an insincere poster is a waste of time, thus YHL. A reposted troll requires even less effort from the poster, thus YHL doubly.
Its [sic] interesting to see how defensive some of the posters on here are about this topic. If you really think its [sic] wrong, post a good rebuttal.
This is the troll's desired reaction. A detailed, well thought out, insightful, point-by-point rebuttal is every troll's wet dream. Don't cheapen this forum by encouraging replies to trolls. Basically I'm repeating the age-old maxim "Don't feed the troll".
A constant battle has waged on Slashdot between the editors and the trolls. First came the Troll moderation, then the infamous $rtbl flag, and finally we have the editor-maintained troll blacklist. The moderation system was designed to discourage trolling and to foil attempts at trolling. Don't let your radical sympathies get in the way of killing a troll.
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I hope you choke on a turd.
The feeling persists that no one can simultaneously be a respectable writer
and understand how a refrigerator works, just as no gentleman wears a brown
suit in the city. Colleges may be to blame. English majors are encouraged,
I know, to hate chemistry and physics, and to be proud because they are not
dull and creepy and humorless and war-oriented like the engineers across the
quad. And our most impressive critics have commonly been such English majors,
and they are squeamish about technology to this very day. So it is natural
for them to despise science fiction.
-- Kurt Vonnegut Jr., "Science Fiction"
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