By voting for such people, they themselves prove that they're lacking intelligence. If they are truly apathetic about such important matters, then that is nothing less than pathetic.
People are not "whiny" because they protest the government's flagrant disregard of the constitution, the very thing it's supposed to be bound by, and the very thing it's supposed to defend. We won't be the land of the free for long if we continue to allow the government to usurp our rights in the name of preventing terrorism.
There is almost certainly classified information to protect in the case.
I don't think that's the point. The point is that a number of people (not pointing at anyone in particular) have said something along the lines of, "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." These same people would probably argue that while the government is trying to hide something here, that hiding things isn't necessarily bad, which is inconsistent.
And they probably also think that their government is composed of perfect beings who could never abuse their powers or make mistakes. After all, if the government is not made up of perfect beings, the rules could change and suddenly that thing you do that you believed was harmless becomes illegal. Or maybe an individual in the government makes a mistake or decides to abuse the data?
Yeah, everyone has something to hide, and that's especially true when you take into account the fact that governments are made up of human beings.
That's the biggest problem with autodidacts. They tend to ignore important material that they don't have an interest in, don't immediately understand, or disagree with (because it doesn't appeal to their intuition or runs contrary to their existing beliefs.)
Really? Do tell me more.
They end up believing themselves experts in a topic, when in reality they're less informed than a hipster Starbucks barista that took an undergrad course in the same subject.
Wow! I had no idea.
You know, it's interesting how you say things such as "That's just something autodidacts tell themselves to make themselves feel important." and then go on to say ridiculous things yourself, almost making it seem as if you want to make yourself feel more important (because according to your logic, saying such things means you're just trying to make yourself feel important).
Except that it is. What else is it when you force students to sit in a room and follow a certain curriculum? It is not just about 'unnecessary' things on the curriculum, either; even if everything was 100% necessary, we still could only offer a one-size-fits-all education.
The truth is, with very few exceptions the high school curriculum only touches the essential basics
Well, that really would depend on how you define "essential."
but eventually it becomes easier to understand than to learn by heart, because when you understand, you increase what you know.
But in practice, that is not true.
When you memorize, you forget as much as you learn.
Which is what happens. When next they need it, they can at least recall it a bit easier. Complexity is irrelevant.
You can't understand years of how and why with only weeks left to the test.
Understand the "why" is not necessary for rote memorization kings, of which there appear to be many.
Third, "someone else's curriculum" may look packed with stuff that you don't need.
And it very well may be, and often is. It's not just about what you need and what you don't, but about what works for you. The pitfalls of one-size-fits-all education should be well understood.
Someone who always thinks "why should I learn this, I don't need this" does miss out and will eventually regret it
That depends on the individual. Nice try.
Please stop trying to defend the pitiful school system.
In my experience you can learn quite a lot in school
You can learn quite a bit more by self-studying if you have a bit of motivation. You don't want to be bogged down by assignments and tests that require only rote memorization to pass, so wasting such substantial amounts of time at a public school (if the ones in your country are terrible like they are in the US) isn't advisable for people who are sufficiently motivated. Following someone else's curriculum can be a distraction as well.
School is not perfect.
Oh, it's far from perfect. If you can pass tests and assignments by reciting facts (and you can a grand majority of the time), something is terribly wrong.
the option of understanding how and why exists in school just like it exists anywhere else.
They want to make sure the hunter doesn't have an unfair advantage / 'cheat'
How is it unfair or cheating to make use of the resources available to you? What if some people are simply better at hunting than others? Is that 'cheating,' too? What nonsense.
Or did you forget about the rootkits, OtherOS removal, and the fact that their consoles are always locked down? Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I'm a troll...
But if you're monitoring some public area, no big deal.
Wrong. Having government surveillance devices everywhere is an awful thing whether or not they're in public places. It is foolish to expect that they wouldn't abuse such powers.
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By voting for such people, they themselves prove that they're lacking intelligence. If they are truly apathetic about such important matters, then that is nothing less than pathetic.
People are not "whiny" because they protest the government's flagrant disregard of the constitution, the very thing it's supposed to be bound by, and the very thing it's supposed to defend. We won't be the land of the free for long if we continue to allow the government to usurp our rights in the name of preventing terrorism.
I'd say our constitution-trampling government is aiding and comforting our enemies more than Snowden.
There is almost certainly classified information to protect in the case.
I don't think that's the point. The point is that a number of people (not pointing at anyone in particular) have said something along the lines of, "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." These same people would probably argue that while the government is trying to hide something here, that hiding things isn't necessarily bad, which is inconsistent.
When you make the choice to live in, that is- to partake of
As the AC said, no one really chooses that.
it is your civic and moral duty to contribute to it.
Unless you believe in mystical beings who can decide what is and is not objectively wrong, you have no "moral duty" to do anything.
Who knows? They'll do or say anything to rationalize their flagrant disregard of the constitution and people's liberties in general.
And they probably also think that their government is composed of perfect beings who could never abuse their powers or make mistakes. After all, if the government is not made up of perfect beings, the rules could change and suddenly that thing you do that you believed was harmless becomes illegal. Or maybe an individual in the government makes a mistake or decides to abuse the data?
Yeah, everyone has something to hide, and that's especially true when you take into account the fact that governments are made up of human beings.
Let it explode; it's not much of a "justice" system anyway.
That's the biggest problem with autodidacts. They tend to ignore important material that they don't have an interest in, don't immediately understand, or disagree with (because it doesn't appeal to their intuition or runs contrary to their existing beliefs.)
Really? Do tell me more.
They end up believing themselves experts in a topic, when in reality they're less informed than a hipster Starbucks barista that took an undergrad course in the same subject.
Wow! I had no idea.
You know, it's interesting how you say things such as "That's just something autodidacts tell themselves to make themselves feel important." and then go on to say ridiculous things yourself, almost making it seem as if you want to make yourself feel more important (because according to your logic, saying such things means you're just trying to make yourself feel important).
It is not a "one size fits all" education.
Except that it is. What else is it when you force students to sit in a room and follow a certain curriculum? It is not just about 'unnecessary' things on the curriculum, either; even if everything was 100% necessary, we still could only offer a one-size-fits-all education.
The truth is, with very few exceptions the high school curriculum only touches the essential basics
Well, that really would depend on how you define "essential."
Google tries to blacklist A, B, and C, so clearly they should have to do the same for D, E, F, G, and H! It makes perfect sense!
First of all, not all rote memorization is bad.
I never said that all memorization is bad.
that's not the only way to learn for it.
But in practice, that's what happens.
but eventually it becomes easier to understand than to learn by heart, because when you understand, you increase what you know.
But in practice, that is not true.
When you memorize, you forget as much as you learn.
Which is what happens. When next they need it, they can at least recall it a bit easier. Complexity is irrelevant.
You can't understand years of how and why with only weeks left to the test.
Understand the "why" is not necessary for rote memorization kings, of which there appear to be many.
Third, "someone else's curriculum" may look packed with stuff that you don't need.
And it very well may be, and often is. It's not just about what you need and what you don't, but about what works for you. The pitfalls of one-size-fits-all education should be well understood.
Someone who always thinks "why should I learn this, I don't need this" does miss out and will eventually regret it
That depends on the individual. Nice try.
Please stop trying to defend the pitiful school system.
In my experience you can learn quite a lot in school
You can learn quite a bit more by self-studying if you have a bit of motivation. You don't want to be bogged down by assignments and tests that require only rote memorization to pass, so wasting such substantial amounts of time at a public school (if the ones in your country are terrible like they are in the US) isn't advisable for people who are sufficiently motivated. Following someone else's curriculum can be a distraction as well.
School is not perfect.
Oh, it's far from perfect. If you can pass tests and assignments by reciting facts (and you can a grand majority of the time), something is terribly wrong.
the option of understanding how and why exists in school just like it exists anywhere else.
You should become a comedian.
They want to make sure the hunter doesn't have an unfair advantage / 'cheat'
How is it unfair or cheating to make use of the resources available to you? What if some people are simply better at hunting than others? Is that 'cheating,' too? What nonsense.
Or did you forget about the rootkits, OtherOS removal, and the fact that their consoles are always locked down? Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean I'm a troll...
Or, just buy a PS4.
Sony doesn't deserve money, either.
But if you're monitoring some public area, no big deal.
Wrong. Having government surveillance devices everywhere is an awful thing whether or not they're in public places. It is foolish to expect that they wouldn't abuse such powers.
But that ship has sailed.
The situation is already bad, so why not just make it worse?
Well, I would.