If it's settled that human-emitted carbon is warming up our climate that might mean fewer jobs for climatologists, but it will mean a lot more jobs for reactor builders and people who can assemble and pilot supertanker loads of iron dust.
What I also see in here is also a lot of free-floating hatred of China which really should be directed at those forces here at home that are preventing us from regaining the leadership we once had in technologies like this. I don't like the idea of our spending the rest of our lives as kids with our noses flattened against China's showroom window, waiting awestruck for the next miracle to be rolled out any more than you do, but that is our own fault, not that of China.
Just dumping waste energy into methanol production doesn't seem to be a viable way to sequester carbon to me.
Well I'd prefer a non-toxic solid so we could just re-bury it. Calcium Carbonate or something along those lines.
Even better: make biochar, so that we could bury it as almost pure carbon in farmed soil for thousands of years, while at the same time having it improve the soil. We could get rid of a lot of municipal waste that way.
I feel for you, most certainly, but at some point you have to face the truth. The football players have flushed your chess pieces and stuffed you in your locker, yet you still hope that if you just stick it out you will (a) magically become one of the popular kids or (b) wait a year and hope that Principal Trump will see fit to take your side.
It's time to boldly transfer to a more nerd-friendly place. Before joining the TMT, China was developing its own similar design and was scouting its own locations on the Tibetan Plateau above 5000m.
In a way, you're onto something. Why not add a casino to the observatory complex visitor center halfway up the mountain, with all revenue going to the natives?
No, there are not many good sites for an instrument this size. The only other alternatives besides San Pedro Mártir would be Gran Canaria (Canary Islands) or the Tibetan Plateau.
I'm in Arizona, where the real organizers of this protest tried the same tactics during the Nineties, when the telescope construction was on our Mt. Graham, with somewhat less success. You might want to read their manifesto: http://dgrnewsservice.org/2015...
"Why would you object to a stellar observatory on or near Stone Henge? "
Yes I would, because it rains a lot there and the sky is hazy that close to sea level. One passable viewing night every ten years and my detectors would keep rusting out.
Actually his controversy is about using eminent domain for private development, which is not at issue here. The TMT site was on a 52-acre 'telescope reservation' that has existed by contract since 1960, and where a number of other instruments are already located.
Since this controversy started, I've been following the state news closely, and I from what I can see the response to the native oppositions is...lukewarm indifference. I see a few positive comments in newspaper story response threads, sandwiched between huge blocks of misspelled but fervent screeds from the religious opposition. Where are the business organizations like Rotary and Chamber of Commerce? Where are the counterprotests? Where are the academics at UH and other schools?
I get the impression that the natives have been weaponized by ethnic studies programs that nobody ever bothered auditing for historical accuracy.
"That was certainly the historical case, and going back into pre-Western-contact days, the ruling class (ali`i) were so elite that if a commoner even looked at them the commoner was subject to death."
And in particular, only the ali'i were permitted to go above the treeline on Maunakea. The kãnaka, or commoners, would be clubbed to death for venturing up to where the telescopes are now.
Yippee! Macrons work now. Thanks for the encoding fix, new owners!
A little of the money is from Stanford and UC, but most of the $1.4G comes from a consortium of foreign countries. Choose one that has a good site, and build it there.
"That's why private property is a good idea. If the natives owned the property (the last monarch's corruption makes it worth a separate argument) , they'd probably want the rent."
That would be true if the real opposition were just the natives, but the Greens will stall projects on private land just as surely as on public land. In a case like this, they are just using the natives as a weapon.
How long has it been since we could build a nuclear plant, even on land the utility owns outright?
"A tiny pressure group can stop virtually any big project, by filing court action after court action,"
The real opposition to TMT came from the Deep Greens, who tried the same tactic in the Nineties to stop telescope construction in Arizona. Republicans (astronomy is a major "industry" in AZ) beat them back by the skin of their teeth, but the Green victory in Hawaii means that the US is through as a location for any major project of this kind, barring some major political reformation.
It's an election year, so write your candidate. It can't hurt.
"If the telescope doesn't get built it will be because the people who want to build it aren't willing to make the compromises that are required as part of a democratic process."
Hawaii doesn't want astronomy, and it is not the job of astronomers to convince them otherwise. Even if they were to start the 7-14 year permitting process over again, it wouldn't change the opposition. Start construction right away at an alternate site.
Sierra San Pedro Mártir in Baja California is a site on the original list for the TMT, but all of the other sites other than Maunakea were in Chile, which is now the location for its southern hemisphere sibling. The TMT needs another northern hemisphere site. Given the current social situation in Mexico, can the safety of construction and operation be assured? If not, I have suggested that qualified site on the Tibetan Plateau, even though it was not on the TMT's original list because that list was composed before China became a partner in TMT. China is one place where the project will be insulated from its real opponents, the Greens.
It all started so innocently as a push for "diversity." Programming has always been diverse - I remember when the Indians arrived, and then the Russians arrived - but the big push recently has been the increasing number of women. But that's not enough for Nicole Sanchez. She explicitly labels white women as "barriers to progress."
Unfortunately, Sanchez' outpourings are not a fantasy at all. She is really saying those things.
Gonna go out on a limb and say maybe that boat left port sometime around March 2014.
Already sailed for Bitcoin, you mean. The time to get into any cryptocurrency is at the beginning, when its units are easy to mine without owning your own silicon fab and power station, and before its transaction system starts to break down as users discover it won't scale.
But the Tibetan site is a thousand meters higher than either of the otehrs, It's easier easier to avoid turbulence by choosing the right shelter spot than deal with the extra air at lower altitude.
"If you really think it's about "male => guilty by default", you are a dumbass."
No, it's more like "male and not particularly attractive, hence guilty by default."
We do seem to have been stuck at a max of 4G processor speed for a number of years. Has Moore's law been declared dead?
If it's settled that human-emitted carbon is warming up our climate that might mean fewer jobs for climatologists, but it will mean a lot more jobs for reactor builders and people who can assemble and pilot supertanker loads of iron dust.
What I also see in here is also a lot of free-floating hatred of China which really should be directed at those forces here at home that are preventing us from regaining the leadership we once had in technologies like this. I don't like the idea of our spending the rest of our lives as kids with our noses flattened against China's showroom window, waiting awestruck for the next miracle to be rolled out any more than you do, but that is our own fault, not that of China.
But-but-but...we all know the Chinese just imitate the morally superior accomplishments of others, don't we?
Just dumping waste energy into methanol production doesn't seem to be a viable way to sequester carbon to me.
Well I'd prefer a non-toxic solid so we could just re-bury it. Calcium Carbonate or something along those lines.
Even better: make biochar, so that we could bury it as almost pure carbon in farmed soil for thousands of years, while at the same time having it improve the soil. We could get rid of a lot of municipal waste that way.
I feel for you, most certainly, but at some point you have to face the truth. The football players have flushed your chess pieces and stuffed you in your locker, yet you still hope that if you just stick it out you will (a) magically become one of the popular kids or (b) wait a year and hope that Principal Trump will see fit to take your side.
It's time to boldly transfer to a more nerd-friendly place. Before joining the TMT, China was developing its own similar design and was scouting its own locations on the Tibetan Plateau above 5000m.
In a way, you're onto something. Why not add a casino to the observatory complex visitor center halfway up the mountain, with all revenue going to the natives?
I posted the Deep Green manifesto above.
No, there are not many good sites for an instrument this size. The only other alternatives besides San Pedro Mártir would be Gran Canaria (Canary Islands) or the Tibetan Plateau.
I'm in Arizona, where the real organizers of this protest tried the same tactics during the Nineties, when the telescope construction was on our Mt. Graham, with somewhat less success. You might want to read their manifesto:
http://dgrnewsservice.org/2015...
"Why would you object to a stellar observatory on or near Stone Henge? "
Yes I would, because it rains a lot there and the sky is hazy that close to sea level. One passable viewing night every ten years and my detectors would keep rusting out.
No, she would just keep the pod bay doors closed until you run out of air.
Actually his controversy is about using eminent domain for private development, which is not at issue here. The TMT site was on a 52-acre 'telescope reservation' that has existed by contract since 1960, and where a number of other instruments are already located.
Since this controversy started, I've been following the state news closely, and I from what I can see the response to the native oppositions is...lukewarm indifference. I see a few positive comments in newspaper story response threads, sandwiched between huge blocks of misspelled but fervent screeds from the religious opposition. Where are the business organizations like Rotary and Chamber of Commerce? Where are the counterprotests? Where are the academics at UH and other schools?
I get the impression that the natives have been weaponized by ethnic studies programs that nobody ever bothered auditing for historical accuracy.
"That was certainly the historical case, and going back into pre-Western-contact days, the ruling class (ali`i) were so elite that if a commoner even looked at them the commoner was subject to death."
And in particular, only the ali'i were permitted to go above the treeline on Maunakea. The kãnaka, or commoners, would be clubbed to death for venturing up to where the telescopes are now.
Yippee! Macrons work now. Thanks for the encoding fix, new owners!
A little of the money is from Stanford and UC, but most of the $1.4G comes from a consortium of foreign countries. Choose one that has a good site, and build it there.
"That's why private property is a good idea. If the natives owned the property (the last monarch's corruption makes it worth a separate argument) , they'd probably want the rent."
That would be true if the real opposition were just the natives, but the Greens will stall projects on private land just as surely as on public land. In a case like this, they are just using the natives as a weapon.
How long has it been since we could build a nuclear plant, even on land the utility owns outright?
"A tiny pressure group can stop virtually any big project, by filing court action after court action,"
The real opposition to TMT came from the Deep Greens, who tried the same tactic in the Nineties to stop telescope construction in Arizona. Republicans (astronomy is a major "industry" in AZ) beat them back by the skin of their teeth, but the Green victory in Hawaii means that the US is through as a location for any major project of this kind, barring some major political reformation.
It's an election year, so write your candidate. It can't hurt.
"If the telescope doesn't get built it will be because the people who want to build it aren't willing to make the compromises that are required as part of a democratic process."
Hawaii doesn't want astronomy, and it is not the job of astronomers to convince them otherwise. Even if they were to start the 7-14 year permitting process over again, it wouldn't change the opposition. Start construction right away at an alternate site.
Sierra San Pedro Mártir in Baja California is a site on the original list for the TMT, but all of the other sites other than Maunakea were in Chile, which is now the location for its southern hemisphere sibling. The TMT needs another northern hemisphere site. Given the current social situation in Mexico, can the safety of construction and operation be assured? If not, I have suggested that qualified site on the Tibetan Plateau, even though it was not on the TMT's original list because that list was composed before China became a partner in TMT. China is one place where the project will be insulated from its real opponents, the Greens.
All these continents are yours, dear tourist. Except Europe. Attempt no landing there.
It all started so innocently as a push for "diversity." Programming has always been diverse - I remember when the Indians arrived, and then the Russians arrived - but the big push recently has been the increasing number of women. But that's not enough for Nicole Sanchez. She explicitly labels white women as "barriers to progress."
Unfortunately, Sanchez' outpourings are not a fantasy at all. She is really saying those things.
Gonna go out on a limb and say maybe that boat left port sometime around March 2014.
Already sailed for Bitcoin, you mean. The time to get into any cryptocurrency is at the beginning, when its units are easy to mine without owning your own silicon fab and power station, and before its transaction system starts to break down as users discover it won't scale.
There you are. I figured you were sleeping late.
He was milking those cows.
But the Tibetan site is a thousand meters higher than either of the otehrs, It's easier easier to avoid turbulence by choosing the right shelter spot than deal with the extra air at lower altitude.